The Return of Facebook

A couple weeks ago I decided to shut down the Facebook Page due to the onslaught of bans I received any time I posted a link to the Photo Stealers Facebook Page.  I linked to the SJK Photography post and got a ban.  I linked to the Peta Pixel article and got a ban.   I linked to reviews that had been left for me on The Knot with the word “sigh” and got a ban.  I linked to other listings that had nothing to do with SJK Photography and got a ban.  Within short order anyone that linked to Photo Stealers OR the Peta Pixel article on Facebook publicly got a ban.  It was annoying and exhausting so I decided the best route was to unpublish the Facebook Page until I got some answers.

I’m happy to report that I have decided to bring the page back but things will be a bit different over there.  I will not be linking to this blog or any other sites.  Instead, I will just give heads up when the new posts are made.  I urge you NOT to comment there but instead instead bring the comments here to keep bans to a minimum (I hope) as I know that many rely on Facebook for their business.  When linking to a post here, make sure that it’s for friends only to help protect yourself from the magical loophole that someone found.

Since I can’t link to anything on Facebook, I may also start a weekly blog here for relevant links about copyright, the photography industry and the like.  What do you think?  Let me know below.

Thanks again for your ongoing and unwavering support for me and Photo Stealers.  It’s been a wild ride but there’s no one I’d rather be on this roller coaster with!

  • Helena

    Welcome back! 😀

  • lynn

    😀 😀 😀

  • Guest

    YAY! I’m so happy you’re back!

  • Laura

    <3

  • Its a good start but they have gotten posts removed even when links are not used..

  • Kimo

    Welcome back. Thanks for all you do!

  • Goodfella

    I am glad to hear you will be back!

  • CrackerJacker

    Very glad! Here’s hoping that the drama is behind.

    • Big Brother

      Unfortunatley, from past experience, it is most likely to escalate because no one is talking about them.

      • C Sab

        Plus it’ll escalate cause they’ll be pissed that Corey dared to take away what they wrongly believed to be a victory in their pathetic grudge against this site.

        • Hard to disagree i know he is pissed its back up.

          Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

          • C Sab

            Did he make a post about it? I wish I could have seen his face when he found out. Lol

          • C Sab

            How do you know? Did he make a post? lol

          • Laura

            I haven’t seen a post.

  • Just a Girl

    Yay! So glad you made this decision!

  • C Sab

    I was actually just going to talk to you about this. Glad you made this decision. I bet certain people will be pissed.

  • Paul G.

    I’d be very interested in seeing blog posts about copyrighting and the like. I’ve learned a lot just from reading comment threads and can only imagine how much more I could learn from actual articles on the subject.

    • C Sab

      I’ve been writing a series about photo thieves myself. It’s good to educate as many people as possible about this sort of thing.

  • You can’t fix stupid

    Yay, they seem to forget that there are other sites like Twitter, Tsu, Ello. Easy to share the love.

    • C Sab

      In doing it on Google+. Tons of photographers on there. And Google is smarter than Facebook so I doubt the thieves’ report spamming will work as well there.

  • hussey

    Any chance you could speak about the loophole they found? And how they are able to just have random people banned for simply linking to a page?

    • Big Brother

      I’m curious too, but the problem with discussing anything here, other stealers will be able to do the same.
      It’s best not to discuss this kind of thing in public.

    • C Sab

      I’ll PM you.

      • Jenny M

        C Sab, can you pm me that info too? Just had a post removed by FB for violating TOS. Looks like I am on someone’s radar and I have barely commented. Like hussy, I simply linked to this page.

        • C Sab

          That’s all it takes. These thieves target anyone who so much as links this site in a post on Facebook. They’re desperate to keep the truth about themselves hidden.

          • Even on posts that have no links are reported.

            Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

          • Laura

            I had a few photos reported for child porn! Not deleted though.

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            Seriously? Have they no shame at all?

          • C Sab

            Nope. Nothing is beneath them.

          • Laura

            It was of my own children!

          • Big Brother

            Oh! I was just about to share an interesting blog post from early last year which mentions Phot stealers and the lengths this site goes to to ensure the theft is genuine.
            I don’t think I will now as that could risk them being a target for saying nice things about Corey! #SadWorld #WhateverHappenedToTheFirstAmendment?

          • C Sab

            I think you should still post it but first warn the person of the risks and see what they say.

          • Big Brother

            could you PM me too? Thanks.

          • C Sab

            Don’t know what your name is. Don’t post it here though otherwise the thieves will see it.

          • Big Brother

            I’ll ask one of the others I know int he group to pass my details to you.

        • Phoxy_Photog

          A link, or any mention, will get you a ban/report. I mentioned their name in one post, and mentioned it in a post on my business page, and ended up with 2 reports and a 24 hour ban.

          • On facebook dont use their names for now. I just use this in quotes where I would put their name “whos name we cant mention” or something similar.

          • Terry Padalino Beigie

            1. Can I have the loophole too?
            2. We need a cute name like Voldemort … Can’t be that one b/c copyright & trademark infringement but…

          • MPR1776

            I prefer using B.S. haha

          • Actually I like that … very generic and sounds very close to Bullshit and they full of that LOL

      • Stefanie

        Can you PM me the info too? Please.

  • Christopher C.

    Good. Nice to be able to chalk up another “win” in your column. Welcome back.

    • Photo Stealers

      Everyone loses when their work is stolen. So.. I hate to call this a win? But. It is?

  • late to the paty again 🙁 welcome back, I brought vodka _/

    • Photo Stealers

      Bless you fine sir! *cheers*

  • Photo Stealers

    Well, that experiment was short lived.

    • Peter Kelly

      Seriously? Facebook is beyond ridiculous if this is an example of their behaviour.

      I’ve never been impressed with the platform, but you have to go along with some nonsense these days, if just for an easy life. This, however, is a disgrace.

      • Photo Stealers

        Note that all the comments below were welcome back.

        Ah well, onto the next platform. Google + it is!

    • Melinda Potter

      Just thinking out loud here but do you think maybe it’s the name “photo stealers” that loses facebook’s favor? Photo Stealers as in people who steal photos, and NOT people against it? If I was a lazy fb worker made to look into things, and was told “Hey! look a page about photo stealing! They’ve been harassing me and bullying me!”.
      I’d just take a look and go “ewwwww they’re right!”. Deleted (or reported and what have you)
      I mean look at their petition.. It was named Photo Stealers Stop the Bullying (or something like that), and all those comments from people that signed talking about how they hate photo stealing, or “I’m so sick of people who steal my photos”.
      Do you think it’s a possibility that you know who, and the other so and so’s have led facebook to believe your page somehow encourages photo stealing and links to some sort of ultimate troll site? I know, I know! The irony is almost painful considering. But could this all be fixed by a simple name change? The url is stop stealing photos right? Maybe a new name and logo are in order?

      • Not a bad idea!

        Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

      • captain-confuzzled

        I really like that idea! There are a couple of other FB groups that use photo stealing in their name and they look like they might lean toward the “how to” rather than “don’t” steal photos. FB probably makes the name change thing a pain just like everything else though.

      • Justin Case

        Melinda, if I understand correctly the VAST majority of reports made to facebook are never seen by a human, they are sorted by an algorithm that is programed to look for certain things. Someone is just gaming the system, and for the moment it’s working, but it won’t work forever. Changing the name won’t help in this situation.

        Realistically, this is pretty small retribution for someone who now has destroyed their own business and name not just on the internet, but in the real world as well.

        It truly sucks for those who run their business or their lives on facebook only, and I truly feel for those who are trying to do the right thing and have had to suffer the consequences.

        But please remember, a facebook ban is temporary, and for most of us all you have to do is close a page on your browser and walk away from it. Not so easy when you have destroyed your real-world reputation and are putting in 12+ hours a day on petty revenge.

        I would have said (and probably did) that this was pathological behavior a month ago, but now it’s just pathetic.They have had their sad little moment, and they are too stupid to even realize and move on.

        This too, shall pass, and at least we are safe in the knowledge that one less photo stealer is getting away with it.

        • Phoxy_Photog

          I’m on my 3rd ban. This one is a 3-day. After so many you account is deleted…

          • Photo Stealers

            I’m onto 30 days.

          • Phoxy_Photog

            Is the 30 day ban after the 3 day ban?

            How many bans and how often must one get them to get booted permanently? (like does it reset after 30 days, 90 days, etc.)

          • Melinda Potter

            I can’t answr your question. I have only had one report. Only one post removed, and I got a 24 hour ban. Is that normal? Seems kind of harsh for just sharing a link, even IF the link was actually malicious in nature.

          • Phoxy_Photog

            A guy I know had a picture of him and his kid (who was a toddler) both with their pants down to their knees peeing in a bush while camping (you could see both butts) and the photo was supposed to be funny. Someone reported him and somehow his whole account got removed. So I don’t know. He ws really outspoken anyway so people may have reported him for other things such as bad language or something, but I never really asked him.

          • Annemieke London

            Yes, I think that’s weird too. The same happened to me. Not that I care much. I’m cleaning up after a one week holiday, so it doesn’t really bother me. Just catching up here right now.

          • 30days is the longest you will get and you cant get anymore during the 30days..reason why i have not deleted ant other posts that reference Billcie
            Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

          • NattyBoh

            I guess if I had a failed business because I was caught STEALING ALL OF MY WORK I wouldn’t have anything better to do than to sit on the report button all day.

        • Melinda Potter

          See this is what I thought at first, that facebook is faceless, but it’s just too much of a coincidence how much success they’ve had reporting. You’re most likely right and it has nothing to do with people at all, and a name change won’t help, but…. How else are they doing it?

      • Photo Stealers

        Probably, they’ve reported the links enough I suspect that Facebook has flagged it as unsafe. I’m still perplexed on how the above post is anything along the lines of violent though. LOL

        • Melinda Potter

          The success they’ve had reporting is crazy! Some sort of hack? I have no idea

          • They simple figured out the formula….we have not.

            Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

          • C Sab

            The only formula there is is: spend all day reporting everything you can. That’s it.

          • Photo Stealers

            Either found a sympathetic ear or a friend with connections.

          • C Sab

            Probably just luck. Facebook hardly even looks at the reports obviously. They don’t even have friends let alone a friend with connections.

    • Just a Girl

      Are you kidding???? freeking ridiculous!

    • Guest

      Disgusting and pathetic. So beyond childish. Eventually all their petty childish behavior will come back to haunt them, then we can all sit back and quietly grin while we say, told you so! In the mean time, there’s so many options, I still share on my pages to hundreds of people who in turn share on their pages. It cannot be kept silent, they have made it to big now and there’s nothing they can do about us sharing on private pages and closed groups!

      • Photo Stealers

        Whatever happens they’ve wasted an insane amount of time in searching down not only my posts but public posts of commenters here. Should also be noted that I blocked them from my account on day one of this debacle so they are likely using alias accounts.

    • Jenny M

      Well, this is what I woke up to this beautiful morning. SMH! Dumbasses having fun. Whatever, I have a busy day and don’t live my life on Facebook like those pitiful little gnats.

      • Justin Case

        Nice to see you’re taking the high road Jenny. And you’re quite right, they have about as much influence over your life as annoying little bugs.

      • NattyBoh

        Ridiculous

      • Phoxy_Photog

        How did that even violate the community standards?

        And yes, I got a ban again.

        • Photo Stealers

          That’s been my ongiong question but since you can’t get ahold of anyone at Facebook it’s impossible to find out.

          • Big Brother

            You should try googling MD’s of Facebook in their different regions. That should bring up some actual names. Also sites like LinkedIn for employees, etc.

        • Annemieke London

          I got one too this morning 🙂 I’m actually sort of proud of it. Of course I have sent detailed feedback to FB. Don’t care if they read it or not, but it felt good to do so. Plus … THAT can NOT get me banned, LOL

    • Laura

      Damn. You completely moved on from them and they are STILL harassing you. Stalking much?

    • weird, I been sharing stuff indirectly via Twitter which auto-posts to my FB account…. I’ve managed to slip under the radar so far ;0) *waits for inevitable “we removed something you posted” notification*

      • Just a Girl

        I have it ALL of the links up on my Facebook that have to do with this along with a short synopsis. AND its been shared! The only thing I forgot at the time I posted it was the article on PetaPixel. Looks like its time to update and bring it back up as a top post to draw even more attention to it! What a crock! This just goes to prove how much of a maggot Billcie is. No one has bothered them yet they just can’t seem to move on. Stalk much Billcie? Might be time to seek some mental health care!

  • Just a Girl

    Jeezuz…… I caught your Twitter update….. do people STILL drink the Jasmine Starr koolaide? You ‘d think a bigger star was shining… one who hadn’t appeared on here!

    • C Sab

      Some people are so blinded by stars in their eyes they’ll ignore the ugly truth.

  • I don’t think there’s much thought that goes into what’s happening to be honest. I believe that it’s just a case of “spam reporting” almost every single post by the most active members and I would imagine that Facebook’s reporting algorithm just works on the law of averages and deduces that if so many posts are being reported, then it stands to reason that something must be wrong.

    Of course I’m just surmising, and I could be way off the mark, but I’m betting that if someone took the time to flag a ton of posts on PS then they must be doing the same on Facebook. It’s really quite sad if you think about it. It’s one thing to sit and chat/interact with people, but to just sit mindlessly searching for posts and clicking “report” links is about as inane as one’s mind can get….

    • C Sab

      That’s all they’ve been doing since their scam got shut down. They have nothing else in their lives other than sitting on their asses and attacking people online in whatever cowardly way they can. They’re nothing more than annoying little insects these days. Annoying but not a threat.

      • yup

        • C Sab

          Neither am I, it’s their only weapon against us and it’s easy to avoid. lol

      • Jenny M

        Annoying little gnats! Just swat them when you feel that little irritant and move on.