Dear Facebook: You Suck

Well, that was short lived.

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Every comment beneath the removed post for violating “Facebook Community Standards” was “welcome back” or something of the like.  I immediately deleted any post with anything about the ongoing saga with SJK Photography.  I immediately deleted any post with a link.  I deleted ANYTHING that wasn’t strictly positive, yet here I am, again, with another removed post from Facebook for posting something against Community Standards all because someone allegedly has some kind of inside to Facebook.

The owner of SJK Photography also runs this Facebook Page where she has reached out to fans to help her with the bullies and claims to have an inside to getting people banned.
The owner of SJK Photography also runs this Facebook Page where she has reached out to fans to help her with the bullies and claims to have an inside to getting people banned.

I have yet another ban from Facebook (30 days this time) while other photographers whom have shown their support have also received bans of their own.  Many of these bans are for just saying they support Photo Stealers – no links, no bad mouthing, just saying hey I support what Corey does.  There is no way to contact Facebook and figure out just exactly how what you posted violated “Facebook Community Standards” when it isn’t apparent just what is violated by posting a single link.  For photographers who rely on Facebook for marketing for their businesses, these  bans not only affect their personal lives but their businesses as well.

To continue your support for this website, please feel free to follow Photo Stealers on Twitter and Google +.  If you want to show your support on Facebook by mentioning or linking to the page, make sure to make the post for “Friends Only” to ensure your safety.

Since my last post about what I had endured since the outing of SJK Photography, I have been on the receiving end of so much more. Below is just a sampling of the posts that have appeared on various Facebook Pages.  Note that all of these were returned as “not against community standards” when I flagged them.  The posts are below.  As with the last post, this is just the things aimed at me personally.

I hope this is the last time I have to make yet another blog post about this incident.  Wedding season is here and my “Photo Stealers” time will be waning.  However, my mission remains the same.  I am here to help photographers whose images are being used illegally in other photographers galleries.  I will continue to do what I have been doing for the past 3 years and if I can’t post to Facebook, so be it.  It won’t deter me.

Onto the hate, rage and calling me the c word (which made me laugh).

Note, click on the images to enlarge them.

Email from Bill:

Email I received from Bill (sent via a VPN).  While I would have gladly removed their post to get on with things, there is no way that I have the power (despite how much they THINK I have) to get everyone, everywhere, to remove talks of what has transpired.  They've pissed off far too many people whose reaches are far beyond Photo Stealers, especially with the "Ha So You Think You're a Photographer" page.  Many of those people never even HEARD of Photo Stealers so how in the world was I to get them to remove anything they've posted?!?  So I'd remove the post and they'd continue to attack as long as their names are out there...
Email I received from Bill (sent via a VPN). While I would have gladly removed their post to get on with things, there is no way that I have the power (despite how much they THINK I have) to get everyone, everywhere, to remove talks of what has transpired. They’ve pissed off far too many people whose reaches are far beyond Photo Stealers, especially with the “Ha So You Think You’re a Photographer” page. Many of those people never even HEARD of Photo Stealers so how in the world was I to get them to remove anything they’ve posted?!? So I’d remove the post and they’d continue to attack as long as their names are out there…

Ha, So You Think You’re a Photographer Facebook Page:

Post made after my blog about shutting down the Facebook Page
Post made after my blog about shutting down the Facebook Page

Selling the drama Facebook Page:

"Selling the Drama" was a Facebook Page created after "Photo Stealers Stop the Bullying" was unpublished.  Here I'm being accused of taking bribes to remove listings on Photo Stealers.  The only thing that gets listings removed is retribution made to THE PHOTOGRAPHERS WHO WERE THE VICTIMS.   Be it apology, payment for use of the images or good will.  I refused to be shamed for thinking photographers should be paid when their images are used illegally.
“Selling the Drama” was a Facebook Page created after “Photo Stealers Stop the Bullying” was unpublished. Here I’m being accused of taking bribes to remove listings on Photo Stealers. The only thing that gets listings removed is retribution made to THE PHOTOGRAPHERS WHO WERE THE VICTIMS. Be it apology, payment for use of the images or good will. I refused to be shamed for thinking photographers should be paid when their images are used illegally.

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More claims that removing the listings once the photographers feel they have retribution for the theft is extortion.
More claims that removing the listings once the photographers feel they have retribution for the theft is extortion.
This company paid for the commercial use of the images TO THE PHOTOGRAPHERS whose images they used.  No donations have been made to me or Photo Stealers.
This company paid for the commercial use of the images TO THE PHOTOGRAPHERS whose images they used. No donations have been made to me or Photo Stealers.
Bill is unhappy I didn't comply with his email.
Bill is unhappy I didn’t comply with his email.

Cyber War Facebook Page:

"Cyber War" yet another Facebook Page created to antagonize me, claims that I am the aggressor in this.
“Cyber War” yet another Facebook Page created to antagonize me (at this time it is unpublished), claims that I am the aggressor in this.
I personally have never written a single RipOff Report about anyone, ever.
I personally have never written a single RipOff Report about anyone, ever.
Stating they are sending a missile towards the new page.
Stating they are sending a missile towards the new page.
...maybe because you keep posting stuff like this?
…maybe because you keep posting stuff like this?
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Bill is still angry that I dared to say that Stacie also ran Lollicakes in her listing on Photo Stealers – I never said it had stolen images. I deleted that line early on in this but we are still here.

Photo Stealers Wall of Shame Facebook Page:

Another Facebook Page was created to cyber bully and harass me once the "Ha, So You Think You're A Photographer" Facebook Page was removed by Facebook.
Another Facebook Page was created to cyber bully and harass me once the “Ha, So You Think You’re A Photographer” Facebook Page was removed by Facebook.
I had no idea that this site even existed until they posted this link.  No incoming links to it, doesn't pop in Google searches.  AMAZING they HAPPENED to find it isn't it?  Also quite amazing how the reviews match up to the ones left on RipOff Report and The Knot.
I had no idea that this site even existed until they posted this link. No incoming links to it, doesn’t pop in Google searches. AMAZING they HAPPENED to find it isn’t it? Also quite amazing how the reviews match up to the ones left on RipOff Report and The Knot.

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Another review site I had no idea existed.
Another review site I had no idea existed.

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Linking one of the RipOff Reports against me.
Linking one of the RipOff Reports against me.
Linking yet another one of the RipOff Reports against me.
Linking yet another one of the RipOff Reports against me.
One should note that the page also talks about getting Bill Scott to stop harassing as well.
One should note that the page also talks about getting Bill Scott to stop harassing as well.

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The biography for "Photo Stealers Wall of Shame"
The biography for “Photo Stealers Wall of Shame”
The biography for "Photo Stealers Wall of Shame"
The biography for “Photo Stealers Wall of Shame”
  • Celine (peaceetc)

    Thank you for laying out it. It’s terrible it’s come to this, that they have stooped so damn low. They call everyone else bullies and stalkers, yet fail to see how they are the worse bullies and stalkers of all. I will say it again — they can’t win this, because there is no winning. This is not a game. I don’t want them in my lives. I don’t want to think of them at all. They need to let this whole thing go.

    • Helena

      Yep. They need to grow up and move on. For goodness sake, they need to get out of the house and go to the frickin’ beach for the day instead of staying holed up in their shack, searching for, and reporting posts. It’s just sad. I wish I had the time free they have to spend reporting people. Fortunately, I have a life instead.

      • life? what’s that again? ;0)

        • Helena

          That thing that all of us have, where we’re not glued to a screen for 12+ hours a day reporting and stalking people.

  • C Sab

    Bill and Stacie, you continue to be nothing more than a couple of worthless, pathetic cowards. And I continue to laugh at your pitiful efforts. You lost, now get over it. Nothing you can do can bring us down, we’re far more intelligent than you are and whining about us to a bunch of people who don’t know both sides of the story because you delete all comments that contradict you will not help. For every 1 person you manage to fool, there are 10 that know the truth. The truth being that you two are criminals, that you are nothing more than lifeless cyberbullies, and that you are not the victims. You can’t beat the truth, we’re always finding ways of spreading the word despite your efforts.

  • Kimo

    This ongoing strife is likely to be caused by their fear of each other. A common enemy makes for strange bed fellows. How do you think the nazis got away with so much for so long? All they did was point at an innocent party and lay the blame at their feet, achieving their rise to power. The powers behind Hitler’s power, though, were the thugs, butchers, and other disenfranchised who butchered every obstacle in his rise.

    It’s like they modeled their strategy after his. Unite other thieves and unsuspecting sympathetic people behind their common enemy, aka “the bully,” them trample their way over any and every obstacle in their “rise.” At least they don’t have the complete control of other media sources , thereby stymieing any real opposition.

    • C Sab

      Except their rise is an illusion, what they’re really doing is digging themselves deeper and deeper into their little pit of misery and self-loathing.

      • Kimo

        Exactly. That’s why the quotes around rise. They’ll prove a thorn for some time, but every wound heals. The scar is just a stonger area and serves to remind us, in this case of what we’re striving for. It also, in this case, reminds of how much Corey and many others have had to endure to improve our world a little.

        As any good orthopedic surgeon will tell you, a broken bone is often stronger at the site of the break when healed.

        • C Sab

          They’re not even a thorn to me. I see them as two flies buzzing around our heads occasionally in order to attract attention to themselves because otherwise no-one would know of their existence or care.

          • Kimo

            They’ve poked some here pretty damned hard, especially Corey. Those that have been poked will move on, and far exceed any damage that they can do, but it still sucks.

            Plus, thorns actually fit the bill when you think of how what thorns give you matches what these 2 are!

          • C Sab

            Any damage they do can easily be reversed. All they can do is temporarily keep us from posting but that won’t last long plus they can only do it on FB and there are so many other places to post the truth about them.

          • Kimo

            Amen!

  • perhaps we could spam Facebook’s twitter page and ask them directly how all of this can be deemed as “against TOS” or whatever, or we could just not bother ;0) personally, I like it here and I’ll go with the flow of conversation and share new posts as and when. If I’m banned from Facebook it won’t be such a big deal, although it might slightly hamper my starting up a photography page…. It’s something that can’t be worked around though ;0)

    • Kimo

      They got me kicked off fb. Try ello or G+, both better platforms than fb, anyway.

      • Not tried Ello…. what with Instagram, G+, Twitter and FB I think I’ve got enough to contend with ;0)

      • You can’t fix stupid

        There is also Tsu

      • Goodfella

        is G+ like twitter ? I signed up but I do get it

        • C Sab

          No, G+ is very different. It takes more effort to get set-up but it’s way better than Twitter when you do.

          • honestly I forget I’ve got a G+ account, I just use it to auto post from my website lol that said I guess I might start using it a bit more

          • Goodfella

            Thank you C Sab

    • captain-confuzzled

      I find it incredible (and I did some digging, as I’m sure others did) that Facebook provides no recourse for the type of bullying that they are doing – using the FB reporting system to bully others.

      What I did find was that there are many other victims of this type of Facebook abuse of bullying using the FB reporting system, and when others have tried to contact Facebook for help, Facebook just doesn’t respond, apparently having no interest in protecting the businesses that they ultimately want revenue from.

      I hold Facebook fully complicit in the whole thing at this point. Seems counterproductive not to deal with this issue since it will, if it hasn’t already, affect their pocketbook as businesses continue to come to the conclusion that FB is a risky place to do business.

      • C Sab

        FB has made it clear many times that they don’t give a shit about their user base.

      • I agree, it’s obvious that their system is flawed if it can be exploited to such a degree, but if I remember rightly, Facebook has somewhere around 10,000 employees worldwide to cover over 1 billion users. It would be physically impossible for every single report to be read so their algorithms need a strict overhaul!

        • captain-confuzzled

          something needs to be overhauled for sure! At the very least, add an option to the reporting algorithm to allow for reporting this type of bullying. I’m guessing the automated algorithms, move things up the chain based on partly the quantity of reports, so at least ad this as one type of report so it can move into the queue with other reports.

        • JustHere

          I think though that if someone gets reported more than a certain number of times, especially by the same person, they should take a closer look at the entire situation. I also think they should take a look at anyone who over-reports to make sure they aren’t using the report button as a bullying tool. I am not a computer programmer but I can’t believe that writing a program to flag this type of situation can’t be written.

          • Big Brother

            Bottom line is Facebook doesn’t really care unless they are earning big money from you. Why else would it be so impossible to reach a human there? “Social Network” is an oxymoron since the companies that run them are anything but social!

  • Marc W.

    Wonder how Stacie would feel if someone took her cat photos, removed her “copyright / name” and posted it on their cat photography business page.

    • C Sab

      That’s probably how she “took” those images.

      • Photo Stealers

        No, to be fair, most of the images there are of her/her cats.

        • C Sab

          Alrighty, but at this point it’s hard not to assume that.

        • Phoxy_Photog

          Funny thing is, she takes perfectly decent photos of her cats (the ones obviously taken with a real camera). Why couldn’t she just apply those skills to portraits?

      • Marc W.

        But if you add text/a quote to an image, you don’t have to share it, you can just upload it.

  • PearlJ

    They can work around the system on fb but the end result is that they got caught and it bites, and nothing can change that. They can attempt to shut down all conversation on fb, and go after anyone who supports you openly, BUT there are too many posts, records, etc that negatively points to them all over the net.

    • C Sab

      This has been pointed out so many times and they still don’t get it. I think their main goal now is getting attention as they seem like people who crave it more than anything else whether the attention is positive or negative and they should realize by now that they can’t win against us.

    • Photo Stealers

      That’s why Bill’s email to me was just ludicrous. I would have taken down the post about them had he made that his only condition to stop attacking me. Gladly. However, they’ve pissed off SO many people across so many platforms that I can’t begin to track them all down and ask them to remove what they’ve said as well. I got so many messages on my photography Facebook Page because people were telling me they found out who was behind “Ha So You Think…” and when I told them I knew and that I ran PS most had no idea what PS even was.

      The only threats I did see them post to one of the pages was from a man whose wife’s images had been made fun of. She was in some Mama Market group or something where Stacie allegedly caused some kind of drama. There’s so many backstories like this and all of those mean that I would never be able to erase it all from the internet.

      For the record, I don’t know who the hell runs Bullshizer either but I wish I did.

      • Helena

        I’d like to know too, so I can buy him a beer and give him a high five!

        • You can’t fix stupid

          Only after he posts number 5!

          • Yeah, Mr. Bullshizer, where the hell is 5?!?! I guess with all that’s happened recently, I should say , “where are 5 AND 6??”

      • Big Brother

        Actually the email sounds like a repeat of January 29th on the original timeline. I suggest everyone go and read it.

  • Big Brother

    I think contacting news organisations like Huffington Post with links to the blog to see if there is a human interest story to be had here on how fraudsters can use facebook’s rulebook to harass innocent people and get away with it.

  • Big Brother

    On Facebook, under the little down arrow ont he far right (use a PC/Laptop don’t bother with your phones), int he drop down menu is Activity Log.

    You can search on keywords (remember to tick “Include Only Me”) to find any post you have made.

    Under any results that come back, if you move the mouse just under the title of that post you will see the time of the post. This time is actually a direct link to the post on facebook, click it and it will take you too it.

    From there you can either edit your post to remove references to this site and to Those Who Cannot Be Named (TWCBN). Not just links, any mention of the words too.

    Removing will make it harder for them to harass you. Keep your comments, as always, here on PS.

    • Melinda Potter

      Thank you 🙂
      I got a 24 hour ban for a post I made about Fayandrea on fuji’s wall months ago, and just thought I was doomed to be repeatedly banned for sharing news that already happened and resolved over a period of time. I didn’t want my block to become permanent. How else will I let people know what I had for lunch and how pretty the evening sunset was 😉
      Seriously though, thank you for this. It was quite helpful

      • Phoxy_Photog

        I did the same thing as you. Killed my phone battery and wasted a lot of time doing so. I even removed a link to my own blog where I wrote about effectively using watermarks to avoid image theft (this was posted shortly before I heard of Billcie) but just to be safe, considering the asinine things people are getting bans for. (I’m on a 3-day ban).

        • Big Brother

          I’ve just updated the above post with another comment about FB privacy options

      • Big Brother

        You’re welcome, just updated with a new comment about fb privacy settings.

    • Big Brother

      There is also another facility in Facebook where you can go through all past posts and set them to friends only in one click. This will also set all your profile and cover photos to friends only too with the exception of the one you are currently using.

      Again, go to the down arrow menu, select SETTINGS, then PRIVACY, the 3rd option should be LIMIT PAS POSTS. Selecting this will set all PAST photos to friends only.

    • Phoxy_Photog

      Oh, and even with a ban, Billcie could not stop my business. Just made a family member an admin on my page to post some recent photos for me. Nothing against that in Facebook’s rule book. Anyone can be given admin or editor permissions by a page owner. I actually have a different page for an organization I’m involved in and have made 4 different people admins as well because they are involved just as much as I am.

      • Big Brother

        Very good idea. Thanks for sharing. Every business page should have more than one admin. Correcting that now…..

  • Guest

    Oh no! Oh dear! Looks like 3 posts on that cat tails page got removed…there’s just no telling what that silly Facebook will do is there! 😉

    • Photo Stealers

      Oh shit.

    • C Sab

      lol Someone used their own methods against them. 😛

      • Guest

        Looks like that may just be! Or maybe Facebook is catching on…who knows.

        • C Sab

          Either way, I can imagine their outrage. lol

          • Guest

            Ooh in reading a previous post maybe they did it to themselves by using TWCBN. There had been a couple of those posts I don’t see now. I have to admit liking some of the cat links…I like cats!

          • Bob23325

            I feel sorry for the cats….

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      I always forget she has that page. Is it still up?

      • Guest

        Yup. Honestly I halfway like it, I know, very sad. I dont like her stuff, but some of the links to other cat pages. There’s defiantly stuff suddenly missing.

        • C Sab

          She might have deleted them herself to avoid a ban.

          • Guest

            No…let’s just say I know Facebook removed them lol

          • C Sab

            lol If so then that works for me.

          • Guest

            😉

        • Photo Stealers

          I thought it was cute as well although I hate that we both have a cat named Max (although we didn’t name our Max, he came with the name).

          • You’re like long lost twins! Except one of you has class and intellect and integrity and a moral compass and doesn’t have a couple of failed businesses under her belt. So yeah, totally alike.

      • You can’t fix stupid

        That whole page is a “like whore” all the comments are “like for like” so they don’t really have that many fans, they just whore around looking for likes.

    • NattyBoh

      I find the copyright symbol and her name downright laughable.

  • Grace Findsme

    I don’t get it. How do you keep getting bans, yet their pages can steal pictures of people (and their children), use absolutely foul language and make outrageous accusations, but still fall within community standards. This boggles my mind.

    • Photo Stealers

      Most of the posts to “Ha So You Think You’re a Photographer” were shares, so it’s not stealing the image since they are just sharing from the original source. That’s how they got away with that. However there were a lot of posts on Cyber War, Selling the Drama, Photo Stealers Stop the Bullying and Photo Stealers Wall of Shame which did NOT share but uploaded the images. They typically deleted them within 12 hours though before Facebook could review the report so avoided bans that way.

      • C Sab

        They really do have way too much free time. lol

        • Grace Findsme

          I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if there were hundreds of fake accounts and each one was logged into and used to report eveything.

          • C Sab

            I don’t know about hundreds but they have made quite a few and probably have others.

          • Grace Findsme

            Well, it seems to be 24 hour/7 days a week thing for some people, so ya never know!

          • C Sab

            Even they need to sleep or eat sometime.

          • Goodfella

            maybe they do it in shifts… They are in their basement with a laptop in between their Halloween and Valentine’s decorations eating Cheetos, ordering Papa John’s and drinking Snapple coming up with different sock puppets and ways to destroy Photo Stealers.

          • Goodfella

            so true

          • Kimo

            You beat me to it.

            The only difference is Pinky and the Brain really do care for each other, unlike Dill and Spacie. The can’t stomach each other, hence the attacks against a common enemy, which makes them feel like their relationship isn’t a failure.

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            Are there any basements in Florida? I mean, one you could go down into without a snorkel?

          • jbdisq

            They call them sinkholes 😉

          • Goodfella

            LOL! I forgot about that.

          • C Sab

            Poppa Johns and Cheetos? Nah, not nearly expensive enough to fit in with their shallow, “only high end” lifestyle. They’d think pizza and snack foods were beneath them because they don’t cost much. lol

          • NattyBoh

            But $5.00 hot and ready pizza from Little Caesar’s is?

          • Bob23325

            Well, we know bread sticks from a local place are not on the list of their approved bunker food supply. If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t that review all CAPS and a buttload of exclamation points too? SMH

          • clearly Bill doesn’t have good health habits, so it doesn’t surprise me. Less FB Bill, more exercise, because I care about your health homie. You know, so we can meet in person one day. 🙂

          • But don’t you need to link each account to a phone number? Do they really have so many throw away numbers? Maybe buy a bunch of 5$ sim cards and ditch them after setting up the account?
            I really hate these fuckers..(and no Billcie, not because I’m jealous of anything you two have/do, my life is infinitely more awesome than yours… and you know it).

          • Grace Findsme

            No, only an email account.

          • Hmm.. not what I noticed when trying to set up my own puppet. Needed phone to confirm account. Maybe because I’m not in N. America?

          • Grace Findsme

            Maybe so. They reported my debating account as a fake, so I can’t access it anymore. But when I set up a new one, it didn’t require a phone number, although it asked for one. I left it blank and it was still created.

          • Interesting.. thanks!

          • FB just started that requirement… It used to be optional. I think for users under 13 its not required.
            Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

          • Phoxy_Photog

            It has to be linked to either an email or a phone number. People can create a bajillion email addresses. I have a totally separate email address I use for spammy junk mail, like where you have to create an account to buy something from a web store. I don’t check the email often but occasionally do unsubscribes and purges of all the junk mail. They probably just created a bunch of email accounts.

      • Grace Findsme

        I understand that part, kind of. But some of the messages said that the posts had been removed before Facebook could review and other messages of removed material said it didn’t violate the community standards.

        • C Sab

          FB gives special treatment to people who buy likes so that might have had something to do with it.

          • Grace Findsme

            Buy likes?

          • C Sab

            You can pay money to have a bunch of account made by a “like farm” like your page to boost it and make it seem like it’s getting a lot of traffic so people will think it’s better and thus give it more traffic.

          • Grace Findsme

            That might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Whatever happened to putting in the work and earning things? Even things as stupid as Facebook likes.

          • C Sab

            That concept died when society became full of people who wanted everything handed to them with minimal effort.

          • Justin Case

            Grace, I know you weren’t here at the beginning of all this, but your question was answered within the first 24 hours of SJK Photography being listed on this site.

            Bill and Stacie showed immediately that they were more interested in revenge than in actually running a legitimate business. They shut down the photography page as soon as people started pointing out the lies in their excuses and pretty much have been in full-time, full-on denial every since.

            Putting in work? Why bother when revenge against those who called you on your bullshit gives you reason for living. Earning things? You mean like respect and reputation and status? Who cares about those things when you can buy ’em (and they come in such fancy bags).

          • Grace Findsme

            Well, apparently I have been here since the beginning, being a stalker and all.

          • BigAl

            This has made a couple of the BBC News & Current Affairs programs recently as well as other places. From what I have been able to follow, at lot of these Like farms, which are not actually run by FB, and are against the FB T&C are also adding random Likes to other pages as well, just so that they do not appear on the FB radar as suspicious activity. One reporter set up a random page about something completely silly, with no content at all, and started raking in Likes from countries that are known for Like farms. The problem is that these “fake” likes, with no interaction really can badly affect the reach of a page, as it affects the FB algorithm on who sees what posts.

            This is a big problem for those with business pages, as it reduces the reach of your advertising posts.

            Alan

          • Phoxy_Photog

            It’s funny because I have seen fauxtographers with 4,000 some page likes. Some of them have nothing but like ladders shared on their page… Others I suspect bought the likes.

  • “If all printers were determined not to print anything till they were sure it would offend nobody, there would be very little printed.”
    ― Benjamin Franklin

  • Justin Case

    Wow. Just wow.

    Not facebook, I have come to expect that.

    It’s that email from Bill. I’ve just read it twice. What. A. Scumbag.

    Even when he’s gloating and trying to intimidate, he still can’t help but fill his message full of lies and denial. “I didn’t do it, but if you want it to stop, you have to do what I say, and I hold you responsible for making all those other people I’ve abused, lied to, and harassed do what I want as well.” The delusions of grandeur astound me.

    I didn’t think I could be shocked by these two anymore, but they managed.

    Bill and Stacie, I’m sure you’re reading this since you have nothing else to do but report people and go shopping. So I have one thing left to say to you both: go fuck yourselves.

    • C Sab

      LOL He thinks he can deflect blame off of himself simply by stating that he holds us responsible. Translation: Bill isn’t man enough to take responsibility for his own actions so he deflects it all to others like a little bitch.

      Hate to say it Bill (actually i don’t), but the responsibility is yours because you decided to attack everyone out of jealousy and self-loathing and anger because your attempts to make yourself look famous and important were so retarded and sleazy that it ended up only showing everyone how insecure and narcissistic you are. In order for this to end you are going to do what WE say, otherwise more and people people will know the truth about you. We’re in control, not you. We have all the evidence and can prove that you were behind everything that has been said and done these last few months because you’re not nearly as subtle or clever as you think you are. You can keep pretending you’re in control, and that you hold all the power but you’re the only one dumb enough to believe that. 😉

  • Bob23325

    My FB is on lockdown ever since that 3-day ban. Friends only. Not accepting any new friends I’ve never met. Unfortunately, that applies to some of the people here. I do not use it for business so it doesn’t bother me. I think I may have even made the naked turkey private. That still does not stop them though. One of those hosebags did finally file a rebuttal to the ROR I wrote on them. I’m pretty sure it was Stacie because the rebuttal was “centered”. She really is a stylish tw*t. Since it’s their ROR don’t bother with the Do Not Link… Enjoy the stupidity! Please feel free to leave a rebuttal to their rebuttal. LOL

    http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/SJK-Photography/Delray-Beach-Florida/SJK-Photography-William-W-Scott-Bill-Scott-Stacie-Klein-Stacie-Jennie-Klein-This-com-1212246

    • C Sab

      And yet they can’t prove one word of what they say. My favorite part is when they took what was said as a threat on their lives. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That’s hilarious coming from two people who have been making more false claims, threats and everything in between over the last three months than most people make in their whole lives. The reason? Because someone dared to show the people the ugly truth about them, that they’re not famous, or important, or dangerous, or successful or confident. That they’re nothing more than narcissistic cowardly, jealous, insecure, hateful people who think that they deserved to have everything important handed to them for free on a golden platter. These two never cease to amuse me,.

    • C Sab

      Also nothing will ever stop them other than everyone bowing down to them and accepting every word they say as absolute truth which will never happen because we’re the ones telling the truth. And even if we did do that, they would just cause more drama because what they really want is attention. They want to feel important, afterall it would fit in with their delusion of being famous.

      The only other thing that would stop them is being thrown in jail which will probably happen one day if they keep doing this stuff to everyone that disagrees with them.

      • Big Brother

        Remember, their original “truth” was they were hacked and images uploaded to their website. This contradicts their second “truth” of the images are all theirs and they have the RAW files.
        Neither “truths” have been proven, even though they have had several months to do so.
        Also, according to their second “truth”, if they own the images and can provide the RAWS, all those photographers are using their images and some have managed to get the subjects in the pictures to deny the “real” owners.
        Basically, they are calling all the other photographers and subjects of the photos they claim to have taken are in fact the ones commitiing fraud.

        • You can’t fix stupid

          They have contradicted themselves so often. First they are the admins of the page, then they are. Full of contradictions.

        • I have contacted Bill so many times reaching out to him to allow me to see the proof and I’d do my best to support that truth were it actually so. He’s never even replied to a single request. He also ignored all my requests to meet in person when i was to be there. Why? Because they are liars and Bill, particularly, is a fucking bullying coward hiding behind a keyboard.

          • Kimo

            How can you call Bill a coward when he wears those blouses in public? That takes guts…

          • fair enough. Bill you have balls, big ones. I’m sure you took Stacie’s balls and added them to your own to account for your absolute manhood.
            I stand corrected.
            Bill William Scott, I bow to your manliness. I’m willing to carry your children since, well, you know…

          • Kimo

            I didn’t mention Spacie’s balls, just his guts, but now that you mention it… was that what she was pointing at in that photo, her balls?

          • Just a Girl

            Its whats in the LV bags!

          • Kimo

            I mean, he’s like a “little” “Redneck Ken” that she gets to dress up however she wants!

          • Just a Girl

            HAHAHAHAHA! OH! Kimo for the win! hahahaha!

        • Kimo

          Pathological liars often lose track of their lies over time. The longer they can keep track of them, the longer they can prolong things. Sadly for these 2, their combined memory is so short, that before the words have finished leaving their mouths, they’ve forgotten them.

    • Agreed, since I got my first ban, no new friends, no weird shit on FB, but I’ve found other non FB ways of having fun with them. But I’ll keep that to myself. for now.

      • You can’t fix stupid

        Ooh there are tons of other sites that have been running with this. They only think of FB, they don’t think bigger.

        • of course not, it would blow their tiny minds….

    • I read it….

    • Bob23325

      I posted a couple days ago “the trolls are quite active” without referencing their BS rebuttal on the ROR I hit them with. I’m going to post the link for the Petabixel blog there today. Their little games do not affect my business. I did get a heads up about two more BS reviews with their same drivel on another obscure cry-baby Website. Doesn’t mean squat. I don’t have to have a video security system at my home because of the buttload of people I’ve pissed off. We just need to sit around and wait. Someone is going to do what we all secretly wish we could do… They’ve been pissing people off a lot longer than we’ve known about them.

  • captain-confuzzled

    this may sound way out there, but in case Stacie is reading this: If my research is correct you and your dad went and did rescues and helped people in New Orleans after Katrina. How did you go from that, to this mean, bullying behavior? Just stop and think, which actions do you want to be known for?

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      If she did indeed do that, then that’s awesome. But I’m with you — how did she go from that to this? What happened in her life to make her want to be like she is now?

      • Photo Stealers

        Katrina was hell. I have friends that went through it. I can see how that could turn someone I suppose. If that is true though about Stacie saving people, props to you. Seriously.

    • C Sab

      Better yet, if that is true, I wonder what her dad would think if he saw the person she is now.

      Where did you find this info btw?

      • captain-confuzzled

        through following other leads, I believe this article refers to Stacie and her dad and their team that went up to Katrina. I can’t verify completely without confirmation from Stacie herself, but I do believe it reflects other info from that time in her life. I apologize if I have completely gone off track – sometimes investigoogling can go that way, but I am sure enough that I think it warrants posting. http://confusedtrucker.blogspot.com/2005/09/sad-but-true.html

        • Helena

          That may well be an ex husband, but pretty sure it’s not her dad.

          • captain-confuzzled

            okee dok – thanks for the info!

          • You can’t fix stupid

            No wonder it is her ex. Look what he does and look what she does.

          • She probably went there (if this story is true) to find expensive shit she could loot. Two-bit white-trash over-the-hill wannabe nobody that Stacie Jennie Klein is.

          • NattyBoh

            OMG! OMG! laughing

          • Sometimes I make a funny. Today was that day I guess. 😉

          • Bob23325

            That was mean… but I couldn’t have passed that up that little bitch-slap either.

          • Grace Findsme

            I don’t know, if this is the same person…they seem to be a perfect match. Speculation, but fits.

            http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/news/local/2014/12/15/former-cotton-valley-fire-official-pleads/20456649/

          • Just a Girl

            Stacie and Bills favorite word…. Malfesance.

          • Bob23325

            Might be a brother…

        • Before or After she meet Billcie smh

          Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

        • Grace Findsme

          Is this the same person mentioned in that article and the person you’re referring to? Never knew she had a different last name at some point.

          http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/news/local/2014/12/15/former-cotton-valley-fire-official-pleads/20456649/

          • Phoxy_Photog

            Must be where she first heard the term “malfeasance.”
            Interesting article.

    • “want” is too late, This is WHAT she WILL be known as the rest of her life. Too late “onlyhighclass4me” honey!

    • Guest

      I’m sorry but I’m not able to believe it was her, especially after being witness to her recent and ongoing behavior. She has proven to me she is not capable of empathy or that she has a caring bone in her body. Her wanna be lifestyle which falls miserably short of what she wants to be and this story just don’t mesh.

      • Justin Case

        Nothing difficult to believe here. She traveled with her husband (?) who seems to have been a fire department captain to a disaster zone and handed out food. Completely believable and good on her.

        Doesn’t make up one single bit for lying about her past, stealing photos, making up stories about babies she never met much less photographed, or her continuous attacks on people who simply don’t like what the photo industry has become.

        Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, and even shitty people can do good things, even if their reasons are self-serving.

        • Could not say it better … You nailed it.

          Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

        • Phoxy_Photog

          Whatever she did in the past that was good or compassionate, does not make up for the acts of theft and subsequent lies, harassment, and bullying she has committed. Even bad people do things that are good to make them look good to cover up a past or future wrongdoing. I mean politicians all appear to be humanitarians in times of crises… Not all of them are honest and good.

          • captain-confuzzled

            I wasn’t suggesting that anything ‘makes up for’ anything else. Only that she clearly has had a time in her life where she did honorable work to be really proud of. She certainly has the ability to take the high road. And I am glad to know that she has that at her core.

            This isn’t a war. It is about making life decisions and perhaps choosing not to hurt people or deprive them of their work (stealing photos). We all make those decisions every day. I don’t have any problem applauding her past efforts to serve her community. And I also think the reverse of what you said is true, that having done good work in the past is not cancelled out by the most recent bad behavior.

    • Bob23325

      This may also be the missing link to the FB sock puppet account of Jennie Hurley/Brooklyn Marie.

      • Grace Findsme

        For some reason I’ve always envisioned her as an unmarried, only child. Guess my stalking skills suck.

      • I doesn’t cease to amaze me how she’d use her middle name and maiden name as a sock puppet.. as if that wouldn’t be found out immediately!

  • I feel special, I got my first ban / no Facebook for 24 hours….

    • Just a Girl

      FFS! Start reporting THEM thru Twitter. A REAL person does read them!

      • well I went to FB on Twitter and pasted the link to the post and asked HOW it violated TOS, did the same through a feedback submission. Will keep doing so until someone human gets the message and I can actually talk to someone and point them to this site *distinct absence of holding breath but you never know.*

        I have to lie low on FB for a while though, as I was reminded today that I’m heavily involved with a music event going in my home town at the moment so losing FB access right now could be catastrophic not just for me but anyone else involved…. It’s a tactical retreat rather than an unconditional surrender though ;0)

        • Big Brother

          See my post earlier on about going through your activity log and searching for keywords.

          AlsoPhoxy pointed out having multiple admins on your page helps too.

          • I don’t have a business page per sé, not that I rely on at least, but being blocked from posting on my personal account has cost the people involved with the music event (aside from me) 24 hour’s worth of publicity.

            Speaking to someone though is another matter. 1 billion users, 10,000 employees…. Do the math ;0)

          • Big Brother

            For a social network, facebook and twitter are probably the most anti social companies I’ve ever come across.
            They seem to be experts at hiding.

  • Christopher C.

    Well now this is interesting.

    http://stacieklein.com/

    http://sjkphotography.info/

    These links are definitely not affiliated with PhotoStealers or Corey, but they’re definitely a handy resource for spreading the word on these people! 🙂

    I can’t imagine WHERE they could have come from.

    • Photo Stealers

      Oh shit.

    • Just a Girl

      Lol well that’s confusing! Took me a sec to figure out what was happening! Genius!!!!!!!!!

    • NattyBoh

      They redirect to PS

      • Christopher C.

        I think that’s the point.

        • NattyBoh

          I’m not so sure that’s a good thing. That is only going to further the harassment that Corey is getting daily.

          • Photo Stealers

            At this point if someone farts in their vicinity I’m to blame…

          • Christopher C.

            Well, you and Obama.

          • Marc W.

            I thought it was my dog. Geez Corey.

          • exactly, so unless the culprit owns up to their actions (kind of why this whole thing blew up in the first place ironically), then it’s PS that is going to bear the brunt of any repercussions :0(

          • Danny Downes

            I normally fart after a korma. That’s korma karma!

          • My thoughts exactly.

    • V323

      Probably not a good thing.

      • Christopher C.

        I disagree. When people go to a URL, they’re typically looking for related information. (ESPECIALLY the .info page.) Seems like this information is definitely related.

        I think if it were Corey that did this, then yeah. Bad idea. But I’m pretty sure it isn’t her at all. She’s much smarter than that.

        • V323

          The problem I see is, the opposing side can/will use this as evidence of a continued smear campaign. Who did it matters less & less, as it all becomes a blur of who did what. I *hope* that whoever did it, asked Corey first how she felt about it. If she’s OK, I’m ok (just the old risk manager in me coming out).

        • Photo Stealers

          Definitely not me. Although this did remind me to forward a few domains I bought last year!

    • so someone has taken the time and money to register these domains, and then put in a redirect to PhotoStealers? I can’t see that being at all helpful to be honest. On searching WhoIs these domains were registered TODAY for the period of one year, and they’ve registered using the WhoIs proxy service to hide their identity.

      In some ways that’s as cowardly as the other side has been. If you’re going to do something, at least have the conviction to own it, rather than hide behind a wall of anonymity. It also has the potential to damage the reputation of PS, which is the one thing we’ve all been trying so desperately to protect.

      Edit: In my humble opinion of course.

      • Phoxy_Photog

        I agree it’s a bad idea. It’s stooping to their level ans could be used against PS in a legal case. Even if not affiliated with Corey. If the person who created it could remove the redirect, I think you should.

    • Bob23325

      I believe the term we’re looking for is “guerilla warfare”. I did not do it. I see this tactic as a natural progressive response to their contunued cyber-bullying and harassment. As long as it is not Corey or anyone that has been an active participant here I say “CARRY ON!!!”. We all have our little ways or ruibbing their noses in their own stupidity.

      • Marc W.

        For all we know, it could be them doing it to hold it against Corey.

        • Photo Stealers

          Nothing surprises me anymore.

        • that thought had crossed my mind too if I’m honest

          • Danny Downes

            Me too.

    • Justin Case

      It gave me a chuckle. Can’t say they haven’t brought it on themselves.

      That said, the ONLY thing that gives me pause about this is that there are other SJK Photography businesses out there.

    • Anastasia Beaverhausen

      Whois.com shows that who ever is paying for the domain is also paying to hide their info.

      • Anastasia Beaverhausen

        Oh, and they were both purchased together yesterday, for one year term

      • They are still hoping that they can use those domains …its funny because i swear i can remmber seeing that they were closing the cake bussiness anyway.

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        *sigh*

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      To whomever did this: do you realize that B&S can do exactly the same thing to any one of us? Is that what you want? An eye for an eye never, ever works, and this whole thing is stupid. If you think you’re helping, you aren’t. You’re just making it worse.

      • True, but what would they link to?
        For the record, I didn’t do it. I’m done with these losers.

    • Photo Stealers

      I bought my names just in case of retaliation. LOL

      • Crap so am i …

        Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

    • Big Brother

      I hate to say “I told you so” but I knew the moment the comments were closed on the blog it would escalate like it did the first time the comments were closed down!
      With the upsurge of bans and now this! I too suspect they may be behind this too.

  • Stefanie

    I read the articles of Stacie being apart of the Katrina rescue crew. And I need to say this, thank you Stacie. For your service and for your time during Katrina. I lost my family in Biloxi and almost lost my parents because they were too stubborn to stay here in Georgia. They had to get on the road and try to save our family in Mississippi. They almost didn’t make it home.
    Because of selfless people like you that gave the time and effort, my family was recovered and given proper burials.

    Can you just stop and think about how many more lives you’ve touched other than mine? You and Bill have tormented me over the nonsense on this blog. But learning what I know now, I forgive you. There is no room in my heart for hatred. Can you imagine the look on my parents faces when I tell them the same woman who has been blasting me on Facebook is the very one who participated in rescue efforts during Katrina? What do you think they will say if I tell them you may have been the one who pulled them from the rushing waters and saved their lives? Yet, you and your boy toy are trying to ruin my business over a silly grudge you have that all started when you took something that didn’t belong to you. I won’t bother telling my parents. My mom would just cry and pray for you. My dad would curse your name. And we don’t need anymore of that now do we?

    • pearlj

      I am not sure victims of their abuse can feel comforted by the notion that in between being horrible with them, they do nice things now and again, big deal.

    • C Sab

      Means nothing anymore. Any good karma she may have earned by doing this has been completely overwhelmed by everything she’s been doing for the last while. If anything it makes it worse for her because it shows what she could have been like if she wasn’t the troll that she is now.

      That’s if this is even the same Stacie though.

  • someone removed one of my PS comments, it’s a day of “firsts” /

    • Bob23325

      It’s OK… every once in a while, like today, I dance across that line too. I do not take offense if one of my comments are removed. Someone needs to keep my butt in check. LOL

  • Timothy Courtemanche

    I don’t understand how the community guidelines at Facebook work, they seem to be really messed up. I, and several others, report a video that showed violent brutality towards animals. This was a “hey, check this guy out” post, not a “lets catch and stop this guy post” FB said it did not violate community standards, Meanwhile, a family posts a photo of their 2 year old son who was porn with Spina Bifida, the photo was showing the scar on his back, and that photo was removed for violating community standards. In fact, many photos of disabled kids have been removed for just that reason; nothing wrong with the images, they were G rated!
    The people who make these decisions at FB need a serious reality check! As a photographer, I specialize in working wiht families with disabilities and I have had a couple of images removed, but when I reposted them, they stayed. I have had several people tell me that my images are offensive through the “ask them to remove it” thing.
    FB is messed up!

    • Phoxy_Photog

      Not the first time I have heard of that. Another person with a child with a disabilty and body deformity had their photo removed multiple times for being “offensive.”

    • I guess anything can be offensive to someone, personally I only ask Facebook to remove something if I think it REALLY shouldn’t be there. I don’t find many things offensive. Sickening, heart-breaking, anger inducing and other emotional responses happen often, but it takes a lot for me to be offended.

    • C Sab

      FB’s report system has always been beyond broken.

    • Just a Girl

      I report EVERYTHING that comes across my Facebook that shows anything being done wrong to kids or animals. I’m amazed at how often they don’t do anything. How the hell can someone abusing a kid or an animal be OK? Yeah Facebook is demented in fact and fiction.

      • Goodfella

        I do that too

      • Who the hell are you following that this is “often” a thing for you? 🙂

    • Big Brother

      You just need to look at Ricky Gervais, he seems to be reporting images of animal hunting selfies, all very within the FB crap! Opps sorry “community standards”.
      Yet talk about someone caught stealing photos and they throw the 1st amenment to the wind!

  • Photo Stealers

    As many people as they’ve pissed off recently, especially with the whole “Ha” Facebook Page, it really could be anyone.

    I doubt it’ll do much on Google ranking and the like but I did have a chuckle after I realized what the URLS were doing.

  • pearlj

    I meant to say “NOT so clever ploy”

  • C Sab

    Seems that Bilcie are reporting posts on FB that they even suspect are about them, even if you vaguely mention “two people” or “a certain couple” or anything like that they think it’s about them and report it. They’re truly desperate. Lol Doesn’t always work for them either.

  • MPR1776

    Here’s a small bit of good news, Google’s Twitter update is about to hit. Long story short, what you say and what others say about you on Twitter may start mattering a lot more. Which means more effective for this site in getting the word out on people who like to steal others images.

  • Phoxy_Photog

    Where is the article or evidence pointing to her helping with Katrina disaster relief? There is a woman with her same name who is active i. The Jewish community and with helping others, just from a Google search. Are you sure it’s not her?

    • Christopher C.

      I didn’t know Louis Vuitton offered legal services.

      • Paul G.

        They’re gonna need a bigger bag

    • NattyBoh

      I hope she tells her lawyer about her imposing on my freedom of speech. Cow.

      • Just a Girl

        Careful, Stacie will think you are talking about her weight, again! 🙂

    • Helena

      *sigh* Three and a half months of threatening law suits. Has anyone actually received anything, bar the obvious individual? I’m glad it’s bed time. They’re antics are boring me to sleep.

    • Bob23325

      Pathetic… There goes her Bentley money.

    • Danny Downes

      Someone has a better lawyer up her asshole? I don’t get it.

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        Punctuation is so important.

        • Marc W.

          It also saves lives.

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            Yes, as in the famous “let’s eat grandma” vs. “let’s eat, Grandma” example.

        • NattyBoh

          There’s a comma missing.

        • You can’t fix stupid

          This remind me of her one comment “You can’t argue with stupid Bill” That was one of their classics. Oh there were so many classic sayings coming from these two.

      • Guest

        Bwahahaha, What could her asshole have done that was so bad she needs it to have a lawyer?

    • Stacie Stacie Stacie …we know you are watching (you too Bill)… I heard both of you threaten everyone with a lawyer for over 3 months so 24 more hours of hot air will not make a difference it still wont happen. I will be enjoying my island’s festive carnival celebration for the next few days and you will be up in Florida Delray Beach still stalking this page bitching about suing anyone but still dont have the money or the evidence to do jack or shit.
      https://www.dropbox.com/s/i0qpb57om8ebla0/lawyer_up_joseph.jpg?dl=0

      • C Sab

        lol Yeah this will happen the day they reveal the RAW files they claim to have. 😉

        Good luck suing people when you have no evidence to back up your bullshit case. Sure worked well for you last time didn’t it? lol

  • Photo Stealers

    Latest email from Bill, again demanding everything be removed from the internet. Reason why Stacie’s profile has apparently changed. I can’t see it since I’ve blocked them. <>

    • C Sab

      Yeah, we’ll remove it when he meets OUR terms, he isn’t in a position to be demanding anything and he has no way of making us do so mainly because we haven’t done anything illegal unlike him and Stacie which we can prove many times over. So as I mentioned before: we’ve got all the power, we are in control. Plus, even if we do agree to do this we can only remove everything that we posted, can’t do anything about the stuff that the other 1000’s of people have posted and shared about them. See what happens when you don’t do what you’re supposed to Bill? We warned you you were only making things worse for yourself. 😉 Maybe next time you should listen to the people who are smarter than you.

      • Photo Stealers

        Chris, if I would ever decided to remove the posts, it’s a me thing, not a we thing. 🙂

        • C Sab

          lol You better not do so unless you have the best possible reason. 😛 Also, you’re not the only one here that has posted this page, Bullshizer’s blog and the PetaPixel article so we have posts too. lol

          • Photo Stealers

            If I decide to, I decide to. My sanity is worth it.

          • C Sab

            I better take screenshots then, just in case cause that would be a bad idea unless it’s because they actually made amends.

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            This is not a “we” thing, it’s up to Photo Stealers. She will do what is best for the site and for her. Please keep that in mind.

          • Just a Girl

            Chris, you need to step back and collect a few rational thoughts. Its HER Blog, HER decision for whatever reason SHE deems a good reason.

          • C Sab

            Never said I was going to do anything with them. Never hurts to have a backup though. Relax. I know that even if she did take this post down, it’s not like we’d have nothing. Still have Bullshizer’s blog and the PetaPixel article.

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            I don’t think she meant about the screencaps. It’s about the whole “we” thing, as if you have a say as to whether the stuff stays or goes. You don’t, so please remember that.

          • C Sab

            Never underestimate the value of a second (or third) opinion. That’s all that needs to be said.

          • Just a Girl

            You don’t have ANY say in it and, really, I don’t see where a 2nd (or 3rd) was asked for or even suggested. Her blog, her decision. Its a VERY simple concept to understand. How about if you respect that whether it happens or not.

          • C Sab

            Like I said, it wouldn’t matter. There are other places to share the truth from and I have already stated that so quit being all self-righteous, you act like I’m leading a rebellion.

          • Just a Girl

            I’m not being self righteous. I am saying its not YOUR blog, it not YOUR decision. There is NO “we” in this. So, seriously, Chris. Shut up, why dontcha.

          • Paul G.

            I think people are so touchy about the “we” thing because Billcie (and many of the other vocal thieves) refers to us as followers/cults etc. It’s an attempt to devalue our individual posts by just making it seem like we’re blindly following Corey and not thinking for ourselves. That being said, I think you were just using it in the general sense, and I can sympathize because its hard not to (I had to delete like 3 or 4 plural terms just in this post alone)

          • Just a Girl

            Yes, exactly what I meant. Thanks Celine!

          • You can’t fix stupid

            But your post makes it sound like we all have a say in what happens here. We don’t. This is Corey’s blog and Corey’s baby. Not ours. We help sometimes by finding other sites that she might have missed but that is it. She does all the work on this. Not us. We just come for the vodka and popcorn.

      • Melinda Potter

        What’s this we stuff you are always spouting. “We” and “the group”. It sounds so… I can’t find the words, but very a strange, and so very incorrect. I act on my own. I’m not a “follower”. No one including Corey speaks for me. I speak for me. Honestly, I’m not a part of any group or WE here. Corey has never told me, or anyone who comments here, what to do, and/or what to think. Including you.
        So many times you have made comments like this one that make me cringe, and to be honest… Embarrass me a little. I feel I need to add a disclaimer to all my comments here that state: CSab does not speak for me. I do not know him, or care to. I do not belong to any group or club with him as a member. The only relationship “we” have, is that we both enjoy commenting on the same blog, and share a common interest in copyright infringment committed by fauxtographers/fraudographers. We have completely different veiws on how to treat people who have committed this crime or other unethical business practices, and the people who speak up against it.

        • C Sab

          I said we because we all have posts out there about them, and so when I said we, I meant that we will delete our own individual posts. Get the picture yet?

          • Melinda Potter

            The same thing that’s wrong with me nearly every time you post here

          • C Sab

            Might want to re-read the comment.

          • Melinda Potter

            No, we all don’t have posts about them out there

          • C Sab

            All of us, most of us, some of us, whatever. Point still stands.

    • NattyBoh

      FUCK YOU BILL

    • Photo Stealers

      … because I have control over all the random sites that rehosts Peta Pixel articles.

      • C Sab

        Another example of how little they actually know about pretty much everything.

      • Bob23325

        Lawyers have no qualms about taking money for a case they know they can’t win. It’s called “easy money”. Didn’t that just happen a little while ago? LOL Don’t forget to include me Bill. You already have my contact info.

        • C Sab

          I bet they have a good reputation with the lawyers in Delray Beach. 😛

          • Goodfella

            Their mailbox is probably full junk mail ads from lawyers chasing them for their business.

      • Jenny M

        My first thought is that after all those 2 have done, how could anyone ever take them at their word? They have messed with so many people, myself included, and at so many levels, that there is no way they are going to just push the keyboard away and stop. Not my call, and I don’t envy you going through this. Look at it from all the angles, factor in every possible outcome, and then make the decision you deem right.

      • Big Brother

        Nope they are just threatening something they already know you can’t deliver to justify their own actions.

    • If there was only a rehab for stupidity.

      • Bob23325

        It’s called “prison”…

        • Justin Case

          ka-zzzzing!

        • C Sab

          Wouldn’t call it rehab as they would insinuate that they can treat it. Sadly nothing can. But your answer is probably as close as we’re ever gonna get.

    • Marc W.

      I bet there are witnesses that will vouch that Lolicakes was defunct before the PS posting.

      • You can’t fix stupid

        Yes, she was selling all her baking things long before the post here went up.

      • C Sab

        Yup, there was evidence of that posted I believe.

        • Marc W.

          There was that screenshot of her selling things, but that could be anything.

          • C Sab

            Yeah she seems to have a lot of things that don’t work out for her.

      • Phoxy_Photog

        The Lollicakes FB page even said “This business is currently closed.” as a status in 2013 or 2014.

        • They sold or was selling most of the cat shit.

          Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

        • JustHere

          That FB page wasn’t theirs, I believe. It was for another business with a similar name.

    • Justin Case

      I weirdly actually hope they follow through with this silly threat. If they ever actually got a lawyer, they would most certainly tell them immediately to just STFU and then we could actually have a break from this bullshit.

      • C Sab

        Maybe, maybe not. They already went through with this threat once before, didn’t stop them from running their mouths or at least getting associates of theirs to do it for them.

      • Melinda Potter

        Maybe that would do it. Ok Bill and Stacie I change my stance. Please, hire a lawyer!

    • Melinda Potter

      What about a compromise? Delete Stacie’s posts. A new clean post about her copyright infringment, a simple “she still denies any wrong doing”, and a closed comment section. Leaving out all the insane horrible, and despicable behavior they displayed after her listing. I’m sure they are more than embarrassed about it. IF they knock it off.
      Of course there is no way to remove their “story” from the entire internet, but maybe they would be willing to cease this craziness if the posting here were clean and only about the main subject at hand? This is assuming they are reasonable people though, and with their track record, I doubt they would actually hold up their end of the compromise. It’s worth a shot though. Enough people have been hurt by them. They’ve caused enough trouble. They are beyond being a nuance at this point. Maybe they can finally see that too?

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        I think Bill made it clear he wants everything gone. All of it. I don’t think any sort of compromise would work. I could be wrong.

        But he’s forgetting about the Bull Shizer blog, Reddit, other blogs, Google’s web cache, and any number of other places. Their crap has spread far and wide, and no amount of threats will remove it. It can’t work. Photo Stealers could delete her stuff, but it wouldn’t matter.

        • C Sab

          Pretty much this. He thinks that Corey has the power to just remove any mention of them off of the entire internet just because it all started here. Even if he had any sort of viable threat against this site (which he doesn’t) it wouldn’t matter because it’s impossible to do. As the saying goes: once it’s on the Internet, it’s there forever.

        • Melinda Potter

          I just want them to stop. I’m embarrassed for them, and I truley feel for all the people that they’ve hurt and continue to try to hurt.
          I’ve never come across this sort of thing before. I’ve never felt the need or want to report posts or anything of the sort until these two came along. They’ve shown me a world that I never want to be a part of.
          One of the screen shots shows a anti bully advocate trying to “help” them by saying “name them! Other people have gotten bullies to stop by naming them”. That usually works when people are up to no good. It won’t work with people that have nothing to hide. They could start a blog and name everyone involved, the original creators of the images, Corey, everyone that has commented on, or shared their story, and it would just be a list of their many many victims.
          I’m not ashamed of anything I said or did throughout this whole ordeal they put everyone though (including themselves). Name me, but you won’t be able to shame me. I’m not the only one that could say this. Why can’t they see this?

          • Justin Case

            Bingo.

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            I’m not ashamed, either. I stand by what I’ve written, just as you do.

            I wish there were a lot of things Bill and Stacie could see and understand. I wish there was a way to reach them, because there has to be some part of them that knows what they’re doing is wrong. Maybe someday, it will hit them how toxic their behavior is, and they’ll see how much time, energy, and effort they’ve utterly wasted, and all the people they have hurt in the process. I hope they do come to see it, and that they change. I really do.

          • Paul G.

            I honestly think deep down they do know how toxic they are. They just try to bury those feelings with more aggressive behavior, hence why they seem to spend the majority of their day reporting people and taking things down just before they’d get reported.

          • C Sab

            I’m ashamed of nothing. They can list me, they can trash talk me all they want, their words are meaningless. I’m not a victim, they would have to actually affect me before I could be classified as a victim and all they haven’t even come close.

          • Big Brother

            The comments section on the blog was closed in an attempt to move on. The only people dragging this on is them. They seem to crave attention. I say that because every time the comments have been closed in an attempt to put an end to it, THEY go into overdrive in their attacks and harassment.

        • Not on my own comuter

          There should be no reason to remove this. Stacie Klein (Stacie Hurley) stole images. Plain and simple

        • Big Brother

          It also appears that someone (not me) is paying money to fund domain names and re-directs. Who knows how many people they have attacked who are discoving PS for the first time. They seem to have a history of attacking innocent people.

      • C Sab

        Sorry but no. With people like Bill, it’s either he gets his way 100% or he keeps going until he does. He’s literally like a kid throwing a tantrum.

        • Paul G.

          At this point I don’t even think he’d stop if we deleted the posts here. He’d just keep going after people on FB. I mean, he’s gone after other people that didn’t even know anything about them simply because they commented on some of the recent thieves.

          • Just a Girl

            Right on!! SO very true!!!

          • NattyBoh

            That’s what happened to me.

      • Photo Stealers

        The thing is, when the post was just the images they were already on the attack. Would going back to that really stop anything since it’s what got us here in the first place?

      • Justin Case

        Not that I’m not sympathetic to your argument, but please don’t forget that there is plenty of proof that Bill Scott and Stacie Klein have done their best to involve others in their games. If their abusive behavior gets the post removed, you can bet that other unrepentant thieves hiding in the shadows would immediately adopt the same tactics.

        It sucks, but as you’ve pointed out below, we need to keep things accurate and above board, because this only works if everyone can stand behind the words the write.

        • C Sab

          They’ve had plenty of chances to stop and they haven’t taken any of them. It’s obvious they want this to continue. Think about it, when we started to ignore them they just got worse.

          • Melinda Potter

            You’re right. When the comments were closed, that’s when they really went off on a nut :/ I simply cannot wrap my head around it

          • C Sab

            Maybe because you don’t want to acknowledge that there are people this messed up out there. Just a guess.

            I see people like this all the time, it’s nothing new to me. That’s why I can read them so easily and I can guess a lot about them. They won’t compromise, they won’t stop until they get exactly what they want which will never happen. So basically there are two outcomes to this.

    • Paul G.

      Well hey, at least he learned something from us, the difference between slander and libel. Too bad he didn’t learn anything else, like not being a thief in the first place, not trying to threaten/blackmail etc. He also apparently doesn’t realize that you’re still not the Queen of the internet and have absolutely no control over all the other sites/articles that covered him. Even if you decided to take this post, there’s more than enough bad SEO about both of them.

    • LoLTonelica

      Dear Bill Scott of Delray Beach, Florida.
      You are a bully and a thug. My bans do not sway me from continuing to support Corey and the truth.
      You target people who have portions of their livelihood invested in their facebook pages. Whether it is simply to stay connected to people who have moved away, the nostalgia of looking at old pictures taken over the years, or their businesses relying on social media to have some interaction with clients past, present and future.
      You will never be anything more than a large man-child in the eyes of those of us here.

      Best of luck in your life if you continue to live like that.
      You’re probably going to need it.

    • Big Brother

      Those demands to remove everything from the internet are impossible, everyone knows that, so making those demands just gives an excuse to harass Corey even more.

      Might as well just demand that they’ll only stop when Corey pays them a pot of gold hand picked from the moon itself.

    • Marc W.

      Wasn’t his last harassing/threatening email was about attacking the web site. Wonder if his lawyer knows this.

      • Was that last email his last offer? How many “last” chances are we going to get before he.. well, does nothing?

    • Bob23325

      They are never going to go away no matter what you do. My FB is on lockdown so they haven’t harassed me there. Yet they continue to gnash their lying little troll teeth to get at everyone. To keep it going Bilcie writes a BS rebuttal on the ROR I wrote on them. I posted one back with the link to the Petapixel blog. After over 5,000 comments regarding their activity on PS the PP blog is a much easier read… Keep it up trolls. I can have your stuff removed from Websites for my business, but I will leave the stuff up on the cry-baby Websites for the world to see how stupid you two really are. In case you missed it… that was my middle finger!

  • So since stacie is incapable of hiring a lawyer she has reduced her self to reporting several of my images under category nudity….notice there is no nudity in any image… Go figure

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      If that’s her doing it (obviously we can’t say for certain, but it seems likely), then she’s probably hoping an algorithm will pick it up and get you into trouble, instead of a human looking at it.

      • On I know its her or her twitle dumber but unlike reporting post images must be seen by a human. So its very unlike non nude images will be removed. She had to remove her “Asshole” lawyer image… Dumbass
        Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

    • C Sab

      Nothing is beneath them. They reported an image I took of a fucking preying mantis for nudity. Not my fault that insects don’t wear clothes. They’re so desperate they’ll literally do anything.

      • Goodfella

        they did the same thing with a dragonfly photo I took.

    • Hey Stacie…. Shocker!

      • Paul G.

        Wonder if they’ve just been lying to get all the links removed, could report them as being adult content or something that just automatically gets flagged.

    • *gasp* I’m deeply offended. How dare you have a naked face!!!!

  • LoLTonelica

    3 Day ban for my counter review for Danyelle Pinnington Photography, who was blasted with negative reviews from Bill and Stacie. Nothing insulting them was said. I simply stated that the reviews were retaliatory of Bill and Stacie because they were caught stealing and that Danyelle was a follower of PS and thus she was targeted. I mentioned the known aliases of their socks (when this started; including Jenny Hurley and Tanisha Williams) and that their reviews should be disregarded. This was from January/February. They are still targeting Danyelle as well.

    Eat a dick, Facebook.

    • ok so if you go on Facebook and try to “like” a post you’ll get a warning box pop up (if you’re on a PC and not a mobile) telling you you’ve been naughty. There’s a bit that says “if you think we’ve made a mistake let us know here” or something similar. I say spam that link for the next 72 hours until you get an answer as to WHY you got banned. That’s what I’ve been doing since yesterday ;0)

      • Big Brother

        Let us know how you get on.

      • Big Brother

        I see you’re in the UK. I think Steve Hatch is still the MD of Facebook UK according to his LinkedIn profile. Maybe some digging will get you his email address. Or Googling their London office address will dig up the reception desk.

    • Anytime I see the phrase “eat a dick,” I smile.
      Juvenile? Yes. But whatever, that phrase is just funny. Especially coming from a chick. 🙂

    • Jenny M

      LOL! I just got off my 24 hr ban yesterday, posted a simple comment about being back and had an image with it of a middle finger saying Report This! In all of 15 minutes it was removed by FB and I am on 3 day ban now. No problem, busy as hell weekend ahead so yea, Eat a Dick B&S and Facebook!

      • NattyBoh

        WTF

      • Goodfella

        WOW!!!!

  • I don’t know, perhaps it is time to shut everything down and maintain silence. Just ignore them completely. Move on, say nothing, close down comments and never mention them again. If they up their attacks, ignore that too. Don’t post anything that could be remotely construed as “about them” and see how that goes.

    If they are the attention seekers we think they are, this course of action is going to be infuriating to them and we’ll actually be annoying them more than ever simply by doing nothing.

    Draw a line in the sand, move on, and put up a wall of silence, and most of all don’t rise to any challenge. Just brush it off and ignore it completely. I know that might be a tall order, but you can be safe in the knowledge that the people concerned will grow more and more frustrated with each passing day that people are no longer talking about them….

    • Big Brother

      I completely agree.

    • You can’t fix stupid

      We tried that and then they started with all the pages on FB.

      • Goodfella

        I was going to say the same thing. Once the comments were closed, they started attacking people with ridiculous facebook pages and going on a flagging frenzy. They made fun of my photos, said things about me Twitter and on those dumb FB sites, flagged my photos, and TRIED to get an injunction against me in court (all while lying and playing games). I have no sympathy what so ever with these people. Silence seems to make things worse.

        • it was just an idea, I don’t think I said it was a good one ;0) I can’t see any other way to try and bring an end to it. Fine if we all shut up it will probably get worse before it gets better, but they’ll HAVE to give up at some point won’t they? I might be wrong of course, but it’s obvious that tensions are running high everywhere, including here.

          If not a permanent cease-fire, then perhaps a temporary one just so that everyone can take a few deep breaths and regroup before going once more into the fray ;0)

          • Goodfella

            🙂 I understand and completely agree with you about doing this. This would work with most people but……..LOL! It couldn’t hurt to try again and see what happens.

          • “most people” will figure it out, it’s the odd one or two that you have to worry about, right? ;0) If it all goes belly up though, I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong /

      • ah but if they do that again, nobody has to respond in public. Just screen shot the evidence, report the pages and say nothing anywhere else. I guess that won’t help when publishing new posts as it seems any link on PS is “about them” and gets reported, but it’s a start….

    • Marc W.

      The problem is, they may not say anything, but they keep reporting nonsense posts. They keep going.

    • Photo Stealers

      I tried this before and while I was silent, members here they kept poking at on their Facebook Pages and other social media platforms were not. That’s also when the incessant Facebook bans started.

      • NattyBoh

        I think I remember you stopping the comments too? I don’t know much more about this whole story. All I know is that I was dragged into it because of the knot review that was left. That is when my photos started being shared and my bannings happened.

        • Photo Stealers

          I shut down comments, deleted everything about them off of the Facebook Page and was silent for about 2 months.

          • That did not help and most of us were silent but they kept at it… Dam if u do Dam if u dont

          • *sigh*

      • well most of the other solutions I’ve come up with are illegal ;0) not to mention having a high risk of collateral damage….

  • NattyBoh

    These two act like my children. I watch them fight back and forth all day and when I tell one of them to cease the other one wants to keep it going.

  • Christopher C.

    Stacie seems to have backed off her LAWYER UP tirade. Either there’s a small spark of coherence in that warped brain of hers and suddenly there’s an understanding that she doesn’t have any kind of case, or something shiny distracted her.

    • Photo Stealers

      No, she just changed her profile stuff because it was reported to Facebook. Bill gave me until tonight to remove everything or they are getting a lawyer.

      • Again? Or is the same lawyer they’ve always had?
        I hope, for your sake, it’s not true, but I’ll never trust a word out of their dirty little mouths.
        Being someone who has helped prosecute some of the worlds worst criminals, I’m still trying to figure out what they have on you?
        Should be …interesting.

        • Marc W.

          Probably a different bus stop bench lawyer.

      • Guest

        To do what? Not sure what they think a lawyer will do, fact is they stole photos, fact is when that was made public they went on a harassment tangent, fact is the proof of all that is all neatly stored for future use by any lawyer who requests it from Facebook. Stealing photos negatively reflects on the profession as a whole and therefore the crime was not just committed against the owners of the photos, but also against the entire profession.

        • Morally perhaps, but technically you can’t commit a crime against an entire profession. What they’ve done, in it’s entirety, WILL weigh against them when presented to any judge/jury.
          So, pretty much same thing, just not technically so. 🙂

      • Christopher C.

        Ah yes, this mysterious lawyer they’ve been barking about for months.

        There is no lawyer. Any lawyer who can pass the bar in any state can look at this and tell them there’s no case here.

    • Bob23325

      I think Bill told her if he was going to pay for a lawyer for her she wouldn’t get that Bentley she wanted to park unprotected in their driveway… SMH

  • Photo Stealers

    I’m going to give the “Wall of Silence” thing another try. Closing down comments here and all posts about them. If you have any questions or have anything you think needs to be added to the post, please email me at photostealers1@gmail.com

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