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Abbigail O’Brien Photography in Des Moines, Iowa

Website:Β http://www.abbigailobrienphotos.com/
Facebook:Β https://www.facebook.com/abbiophotos?hc_location=ufi

Entire wedding posts were stolen so I am only posting one of the images and linking to the source for the whole wedding which was posted on Abbigail’s gallery.Β 

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  • JustHere

    I’m just going to put this here – I don’t understand why photographers think the justification of using other people’s photos to advertise their business is okay, because they show they styles of photos they take…I don’t want to see the styles or sample of pictures similar to the ones you can take, I want to see the actual pictures you have taken. If you think I’m just supposed to trust you, then be one of those photographers who only charges $100 for a wedding; otherwise, the investment is too high to trust you without proof ahead of time that you can take good photos. I’m not a photographer, I’m a potential customer – maybe you’ll listen to me.

    • Melinda Potter

      She didn’t even bother putting her own wedding photos into the mix

      • JustHere

        I’m assuming the boudoir pictures are all hers (different models all on the same bed) (I’m not really going to search the internet for those pictures); granted, I’m not a photographer but I personally wasn’t impressed. The poses were all the same, the lighting didn’t impress me and not all the pictures flattered the models (not that I advocate airbrushing but some shouldn’t have been shared). So, there may be a reason she isn’t sharing any wedding pics she took.

    • Photo Stealers

      Well… she charges $500 for a full day wedding including copyright release and files or $600 for a full day, rehearsal and engagement session and copyright release and files. So… almost $100.

      • Melinda Potter

        Sounds me she has no overhead at all. I doubt she’s legal or insured, or paying taxes etc and if she is… Woe! It’s a given she didn’t put much thought into this venture of hers did she?

        • C Sab

          Do any of them ever put much thought into it? Doubtful.

    • Mike

      I’ll listen to you, lol. I’m in Bettendorf, http://www.fetographyportraits.com When’s the big day?!?

  • captain-confuzzled

    Her FB page also uses one of the stolen pics from a wedding above for advertising. (attachment) (original photo: http://www.justenclayphotography.com/peyton-stan/ – already linked above)

    • Melinda Potter

      Too lazy to create a photo of a wedding cake?! Wth?!

    • Laura

      I just commented that this photo looked familiar and a link to the photographer’s website. I’m sure it will be deleted.

      • Bart

        Photo is now gone, here is a screen capture of your comments.

        • Laura

          I commented twice. That’s my second comment. My first comment was that it looked familiar and the link to the website. When she deleted I decided to be more forward.

    • Photo Stealers

      I didn’t originally list her Facebook b/c I didn’t see any stolen images there, totally missed this. Notice the comment is gone but the pic is still there. πŸ™

      • Laura

        I commented twice on it and she blocked me right away.

      • She loves the AD I assume.

    • Photo Stealers

      Also is using it on her profile for her photog page.

  • Melinda Potter

    Feed back? You could start by removing the images you didn’t make. Geez! (Eye roll)

    • Branwen

      Another reason why we know these photos aren’t hers (aside from the obvious) her website isn’t professional at all and poorly designed.

  • She has seen the posts and started to delete the comments on FB.
    Lets see if she is smart enough to turnoff her webpage and clean it up.

    • Laura

      Did she delete mine? I linked it on her cake photo. I was nice.

      • yep she did πŸ™‚
        Cause I liked it and its gone πŸ™

    • C Sab

      Another cowardly thief.

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Let’s just nip this one in the bud, shall we? I know, it won’t work, but let’s pretend it will.
    To ABBIGAIL O’BRIEN PHOTOGRAPHY IN DES MOINES, IOWA,
    Welcome to the world of being outed by Photo Stealers (Stop Stealing Photos). It is our goal to root out and put a stop to photography copyright infringement. Your outing is one step towards that goal. You used photos you were not authorized to use, which is illegal. You’re probably confused and angry, so let us try to help you get a handle on things by giving you a checklist of things you should be doing and not doing.
    Please do NOT do the following:
    1. React with anger, go into denial, or start in with the threats. We already have the evidence against you. The best thing you can do for you is to be honest and to deal with this head on.
    2. Flag comments on this listing. The mods will just put them back, so don’t waste your time.
    3. Lie or offer excuses. We have heard every excuse in the book (really, we have. One guy even blamed Obama.), and you will not come up with something we haven’t heard before. You are not a special snowflake. Nothing you can say will justify what you did, so don’t bother.
    4. Accuse us of slander (because nobody ever figures out it has to be verbal to be slander). We stick to the facts, and if something is publicly available, it’s fair game.
    5. Create fake accounts to defend yourself. We will see through it, and it’s just a waste of time.
    Please DO the following:
    1. Remove any and all stolen images immediately. That means now. Right now. And no, simply hiding them from public view doesn’t count. They need to be completely deleted.
    2. Apologize DIRECTLY to those from whom you have stolen (and tell the truth!), and offer monetary compensation. You used their images in a professional setting to try to make money, so you owe them that much.
    3. Hope they don’t sue you. Copyright infringement is illegal under the law, and you can be sued for thousands of dollars, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, for EACH stolen image. Yes, seriously.
    4. Apologize publicly, on all the sites and social media accounts where the stolen work appeared. Again, you owe it to your clients, fans, friends, etc., to be honest.
    5. Learn about how copyright works. Look up the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. What you may think you know and what is actually the truth are probably two different things (as in: no, posting someone else’s photo as “inspiration” is not a valid reason, nor is it good enough to provide credit. If you don’t have express permission to post someone else’s image, then you don’t post it. That’s it, the end).
    6. DON’T STEAL. It’s not complicated — if you didn’t take a photo and don’t have permission to use it from the actual copyright holder, then don’t use it. It’s that simple. Yes, seriously. You claim to be a photographer, so why on earth would you want to use others’ images, anyway? How does that make sense?
    And remember:
    1. If you do it again, you will be caught. We go back and check old listings to make sure they haven’t started stealing again. And don’t forget — Google knows. Anytime someone searched for your business, this listing will come up.
    2. Think about the actual victims here (no, not you) — those whose images you stole. You screwed them over. And frankly, that’s a pretty damned crappy thing to do. And think about the clients you’ve mislead by presenting a false front. They’re victims, too.

  • She has removed the Gallery link from her website but all the images are there.

    http://www.abbigailobrienphotos.com/#!gallery/ck4o

    • Melinda Potter

      Abbigail, remove them. Don’t just hide them, or remove a tab. Take them down

  • Photo Stealers

    Ad in a Facebook Wedding Group <>

  • Celine (peaceetc)

    I’m so sick of these people. If you are a photographer, DON’T USE OTHERS’ IMAGES TO ADVERTISE YOUR OWN PHOTOGRAPHY BUSINESS. Just stop it. If you can’t shoot it yourself, you have no damn business giving others the impression you did. And they will think that, despite what excuses you might have. You are a photographer, so act like it.

    I don’t care what you say, what reasons you may have for using others’ images (even with permission). People will hire you based on the photographs you present in your advertising. If it isn’t yours, you are being fraudulent to your potential clients. That is wrong, no matter how you look at it.

    Don’t be stupid. And for goodness sake, don’t use others images on your social media, web sites, or advertising if you don’t have the original photographer’s permission. That is copyright infringement, and is flat out illegal.

    • C Sab

      People think they’re an exception. That they’re somehow clever enough to get away with it. Oh how foolish they are.

  • Not on my own comuter

    Wow, took the whole lot, not just one. Crazy.

    • Melinda Potter

      That way it gives the impression that she shot the whole wedding. She’s good at what she does

  • Photo Stealers

    The cake image is all.over.facebook in an ad.

    • Melinda Potter

      It’s a picture of a cake. If you can’t make your own picture of a wedding cake, then what the heck are you doing asking people to pay you to shoot their wedding?!

      • U Really That Dumb?

        But it was SO DELICIOUS DON’T YA KNOW!

  • Photo Stealers

    I also have caps of every single image, I didn’t didn’t want to post the whole deluge. If need be, I can post all.

  • Kelly

    I just want to point out that she actually appears to be from the Quad-City area, which would include Davenport and Bettendorf, Iowa and Moline and Rock Island, Illinois. I shared this link on several wedding swap sites in that area (where I’m from) and she commented on one claiming these are her photos and someone else has been using them.

    • C Sab

      But can she prove it? lol

    • Please screen cap this and post it here.

      Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

    • Jenna

      I was just informed of this today, she stole from me and two other Quad City based photographers (that I know of) including a TN photographer I know and a GA based one too. She is using photos of her friends and people she grew up with in church (including me).

  • Branwen

    Someone linked this page on the Central Iowa Wedding Items/Prom/Homecoming. She actually is responding to it with a lack luster response without even providing proof that she in fact took the pictures as she is claiming.

    “I do have proof that I took these photos years ago by myself. The website
    is false and I did delete the photos in the meantime while I resolve
    the matter because I will be taking legal action.”

    “Believe what you want but I am taking legal actions.”

    • C Sab

      Pft, lots of thieves have threatened this site with legal action, it’s nothing but an empty threat. We’ve heard it all, if she has proof then tell her to show it otherwise she has nothing and instead of making empty threats she should just get rid of all the images and hope the original photographers don’t sue her.

      EDIT: Nevermind, I checked out the page you mentioned, saw the post and I see someone has already told her all that. Good. Now we wait to see what she does next.

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      Her own photos look absolutely nothing like the ones on this listing. They are vastly different from the work on her own Facebook page. The other photographer has a consistent style throughout his web site. So I find her words difficult to believe.

    • Jayme Peters

      Yep! That was me πŸ™‚ I will not tolerate this kind of blatent disrespect for the photography industry!

      • C Sab

        Well done. Now word will spread all over Iowa probably.

        • All six people that live there? πŸ˜‰ I kid, I kid!!

          • C Sab

            Better than none. πŸ˜›

      • Mike

        Thank you Jayme. It is hard enough to gain a client’s trust without having to deal with the faux-tographers stealing professional work from the true artists. Makes me sad to say that this is happening where I live and work as a professional wedding/portrait photographer. I’ve spent 10+ years honing my craft, there is no shortcut. I find it hilarious that she claims that all of this beautiful imagery is hers but has a “cell-phie” on her About Me tab wearing a seatbelt.

        • Jayme Peters

          Where are you located? I’m also in Iowa πŸ˜‰

          • Mike

            My studio is in Bettendorf. You can visit my site at http://www.fetographyportraits.com Thanks for asking!

          • Just a Girl

            Once upon a time I lived in the Quads Cities.! πŸ™‚

      • Branwen

        I swear the positive comments are from her friends and family. People saying she is professional etc.

        • Jayme Peters

          Yea, has to be! No TRUE professional would still images.

        • Jayme Peters

          oops! *steal lol

        • Just a Girl

          I was just looking through her Facebook and came across this. My first thought was ” how could someone she lives with AND who supports her endeavors NOT know that these photos were not taken by her?” Seriously, it just amazes me each time this exact scenario pops up!

          • This sort of shit makes me want to puke (and subsequently destroy her name in the photography community!)

        • Celine (peaceetc)

          Doesn’t matter if she is a professional. She would hardly be the first working photographer to steal photos from others. That’s not the issue at all, but only a deflection from the real issue.

        • C Sab

          Wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened.

    • captain-confuzzled

      just adding screen shot for the record (attachment)

      • U Really That Dumb?

        Yeh, she just totally ruined any chance of ever working as a photographer again, and possibly getting any new job, ever.

    • Photo Stealers

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      I screen captured the entire gallery before she took it down, I just didn’t want to post the same thing but will do here in a bit. Hang tight.

      • Melissa Cooper

        Saw these on a site

        • U Really That Dumb?

          Where did you send proof?
          Where are the RAW files?

          • Melissa Cooper

            I went to one of her many Facebook pages and checked the groups she’s in and this page is all over them lol. Hope she gets what she deserves.

        • Photo Stealers

          For the record I have not been messaged or emailed by Abbi.

          • Melissa Cooper

            I don’t know who those messages went to…someone posted them in a comment thread.

          • Melinda Potter

            And I haven’t seen any comments that say “comment has been deleted”. Can’t believe she’s attempting to claim that the original photographer stole images from her, and you are not allowing her to comment or share her proof of ownership. Grrrrrrrr

        • DID she say HACKED. BINGO!

        • sooo am who deleted the proof?

        • C Sab

          Who is she even talking to? Lol

          Nvm saw your comment saying you don’t know.

        • Not on my own comuter

          So wait , now she was hacked? Well well well what a shocker

        • Not on my own comuter

          Oh wait, web designer did it?

        • You can’t fix stupid

          Hold on – let me get this right first her page was hacked, then somebody stole her images, and now it is the web designer? wow. Really wow.

          • Bob23325

            All I need is “Elvis was my second shooter.” and “It was a former employee.” and I’ll have BINGO!

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Let’s not forget God, Obama, and the Liberals!
            I’m SURE she’s going to be claiming suicide ideation and death threats next. All things Bill & Melinda told her to say.

          • BINGO!!!!

            Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

        • Melinda Potter

          That’s just sad. Makes me so angry. How do these people live with themselves?

          • Phoxy_Photog

            That’s the difference between us and them. There’s seriously some kind of metal/emotional disorder that people who do this have. Any of us, we’d never be able to sleep at night. I know I wouldn’t! Hell the only thing I’ve ever stolen was some of my brother’s Halloween candy when I was a kid, and I even felt remorse for that! lol. These people will steal and lie and keep doing so until they justify it for themselves.

        • Melinda Potter

          And as an aside… If you say you took those photos yourself years ago, and the recent “big day” you have posted is your latest work, your photography sure has gone downhill fast

        • Phoxy_Photog

          Those hackers.

    • Jayme Peters

      Yep! That was me. Wanted couples aware.

    • C Sab

      She’s been blocked and removed from the group and that’s by far the biggest central Iowa wedding photography group.

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Abbigail,

    YOU are not the first thief to claim the images are yours. Not ONE, not ONE SINGLE ON, has EVER proven that they took the images. Not even Bill & Stacie. You better be damn sure you have a good attorney and you better make damn sure you tell them the absolute truth, because filing a false suit in a situation like this is a felony and will land your ass in prison for a long time. So yeh, think long and hard about every word you say and every action you take.

    Your best bet is to delete EVERYTHING, including your FB and Website, then find out the contact info for everyone you stole from and start writing check like mad.

    The entire area now knows you are a lying thief and your comment that you took them and are going to take legal action against PS has made it so you’ll never ever be respected in the photography community again. Essentially with that one comment you destroyed any hope of ever being a professional photographer. You also likely ruined any chance of ever getting another job since most employers now do detailed checks on employees.

    Again, YOU and YOU ALONE did all of this to yourself, so ovary up and make it right!

    • C Sab

      We’ve heard every excuse and threat there is, and none of them will work.

    • “ovary up”?!?! haha nice.
      Here’s to hoping she’s not as exciting as Bill Scott and Stacie Klein!

    • Jenny M

      After having this happen to me, an entire wedding stolen, I can really feel for these photographers. I may be wrong, but I haven’t seen anything here from the professionals whose work was so blatantly stolen. It is my hope that they see this and TAKE ACTION! It is theft, it is stealing, it is deception, it is not only a civil wrong but it is criminal. I would love the opportunity to talk with the wronged photographers and at least fill them in on my process, as it goes thru the system. I post here as my FB account, so I’m not hard to find. Please, do not hesitate to contact me, and please above all, consider taking action against this thief. I don’t care how new or how young she may be, she stole someone else’s hard work and deceived innocent clients.

      • Marc W.

        I follow you on FB and I’m glad you’re receiving justice for someone’s thievery.

      • Melinda Potter

        You could contact him by clicking on any of the “original source” links above

        • Jenny M

          I thought about that, but I am assuming he already knows about this and so I guess hoping he takes the initiative to stand up against this act. If he is or gets angry enough, hopefully he will look into options and start reaching out. Also, until you said this, I didn’t realize all the weddings were stolen from one photographer. Guess I should start looking at the links closer and actually clicking the original sources.

    • chuck knuckles

      Now she’s removed all her contact information (phone, emails), including the entire “Contact” tab from her website.
      Making it impossible for customers to contact you is an interesting business plan, Abbi. But your business plan has had quite a few FAILS from the start. Do you know what a business plan is?

      It starts with education and training (years of it – not days). There is NO SHORTCUT for this.
      It also includes being honest. You could start that right now…right here…

      • U Really That Dumb?
        • chuck knuckles

          I don’t have access to that page (unless I use your link).
          The only tabs i see are “HOME, PRICING, and SPECIALS”.

          Her prices are such that would not sustain a business. (Boudoir shoot, including hair/makeup and and flashdrive with copyrights for $100)
          My hair/makeup people charge $80-$100 just to show up. She’s shelling out for a flashdrive on top of that. And when will fauxtographers ever understand that the MOST VALUABLE thing they own is the copyright to their work. They just give it away.
          Inconceivable!

          • U Really That Dumb?

            It goes back to the point that she isn’t deleting, only hiding.

          • Marc W.

            “My hair/makeup people charge $80-$100 just to show up.”

            You mean good hair/makeup people.

          • chuck knuckles

            well… YEAH!
            lol

            (also part of a good business plan – Use the best people available)

          • Helena

            With copyright?! What?! I don’t even give copyright to my friends.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            I have clients that pay for copyright. It starts at $2500 PER image and goes up from there.
            So say for a wedding with only 100 pictures it would be $250,000. I would LOVE it if someone stole an entire wedding from me!

            The other piece of the puzzle she hasn’t taken into account is the now permanent connection with Bill & Stacie of SJK Photography and Melinda Pease. Any involvement with any of them is a life of permanent ruin on the web and possibly jail or total loss of every possession.

          • chuck knuckles

            ” life of permanent ruin on the web and possibly jail or total loss of every possession.”

            Now THATS a business plan!

          • Helena

            Yeah, I would want to run far far away before getting involved with any of them. It’ll only end in tears.

          • chuck knuckles

            I guess when someones work carries no value – their copyright to that work carries no value. They are announcing the value of their work by giving away the copyright!

          • Helena

            And I suppose if you value your own copyright so little, what do you care about respecting the copyright of others.

          • chuck knuckles

            EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!

          • A photographer that gives away their copyright has no understanding of photography.
            Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

          • Melinda Potter

            Yeah, but see… She’s not one of those stuffy overpriced image hoarder photographers… She the real deal (eye roll)

          • Just a Girl

            The wording she uses is tricky. I wonder if what she actually means is that she’ll give permission for her clients to get prints made versus actually giving up ownership of the photos.

          • chuck knuckles

            quote from all her packages:

            “ALL RIGHTS of photos are given to you”

            no ambiguity there

            I doubt if she knows what any of it means

          • Marc W.

            She still probably doesn’t understand what that means. Or maybe she does.

          • Phoxy_Photog

            Most fauxtographers confuse copyright with printing rights.

      • I think she got a few hate email from photographers..

        Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

  • U Really That Dumb?

    With stolen images:

  • Deny Deny Deny …. yea its new …..NOT
    SHOW ME THE RAW FILES!

    • Melinda Potter

      This is so very disappointing to see… So very dissapointing. I was really hopeful that she’d be honest and take care of this properly. Instead “Hi, I’m Abbi, I lie, cheat, and steal, and then lie some more to try to cover it up”.

      • You can’t fix stupid

        Really? As if that has ever happened. Who knows, just maybe, just maybe one might.

        • Melinda Potter

          But it does happen. I’ve seen it happen. Even after it goes so far to get a listing here, I’ve seen people clean up and do the right thing.
          I’m probably beyond stupid for thinking this way but… Each and every time a stealer is posted here I think “come on! Be a good guy. Let this one be a good guy”

    • Kat Forsyth

      I’m pretty sure Justen Clay (the REAL photographer of these images) will have the RAW files as proof that he took them. Unless Abbigail wants to make out that he hacked her computer and stole the RAWS, too.

      • With these fools all things are possible.

        Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

      • captain-confuzzled

        not to mention that the real photographer shoots Canon and she is apparently using Nikon. Oh, I know! They stole your high end camera too and now you have to use a Nikon with a pop up flash! (attachment)

        • Marc W.

          “She used to shoot Canon 4 years ago”. Probably a model that didn’t exist 4 years ago.

          • captain-confuzzled

            nah, Canon 5D Mark II’s were around then. Did she say that she used to shoot Canon? – must’ve missed that. But do equivalent professional Nikon cameras have pop up flash? Me not know Nikon Me only speak Canon lol.

          • Marc W.

            I didn’t know which Canon was used.

            No, she didn’t I just figured that’ll be her rebuttal.

          • Kat Forsyth

            The D700 has a pop up flash. Damn thing always pops up in my bag!

          • Marc W.

            Correct. Cap, the model she’s holding in that photo is the more “amature” models. Look at where the mode dial is. They put it on the other size because it’s such a small camera. Similar to the Rebels (minus the new t6)

    • Phoxy_Photog

      Years ago? How old is she? And years ago she was using a professional full-frame Canon and now is using an entry-level Nikon?

  • U Really That Dumb?
  • U Really That Dumb?

    Then she woke up from this nightmare and found she’s been booted!

  • Jayme Peters

    This what most of her work consists of: washed out, horrible editing, ect. Newbie for sure!! She seriously popped out of nowhere a couple months ago and this photo is pretty consistent with a beginner skill level. https://www.facebook.com/abbiophotos/photos/pcb.1546624748932016/1546624132265411/?type=1&theater

    • Just a Girl

      She has another one on her FB (I think its just before where you found this one) that isn’t awful but even to my non-photographer eye it could have been better considering she put it on her Pro Page. I want to say that its either taken at Vander Veer or maybe Riverside in Moline. Those are the 2 that come to mind with what you see. Either way… Why are they on her Pro Page? They aren’t pro quality for what shes trying to achieve. I don’t want to bash her.. I just think she DEFINITELY needs to not steal others hard earned work and take care of the shit storm she created for herself in an ethical manner. Unfortunately, I think shes probably ruined any chance she had at being successful unless she takes care of that shit storm. She can rebrand but now her real name is out there!

    • Marc W.

      To be honest, I don’t care what her quality (or lack of) is like as long as what’s in her portfolio is the level she’ll provide to her clients.

    • Me, Myself and I

      OUCH!!! That is bad … that being said, I don;t care what the quality of her work is … she just needs to use IT and not other photographers work to advertise her services.

    • Phoxy_Photog

      Not even comparable… lacking the basic knowledge of light.

      • Marc W.

        Wonder what the couple thought of it, compared to what else they saw in the portfolio.

  • LoLTonelica

    While poking around the groups Abbigail advertised in, I came across a wedding planner who has been lifting images to pad her Facebook. Even going so far as to steal a product photo from another Etsy user and advertise that they were “taking orders” for the products.
    UGH. Why is the Wedding Industry so damn dishonest!?

  • Jayme Peters

    And wait for it….she reported me! On all of the posts, and facebook removed 1 post for “violation of terms of service” and “violation of community standards”. I was just able to get back into my fb acct.

    • LoLTonelica

      Jayme, be careful. There are some REAL nutjobs out there from a previous listing (i.e. the Bill/Stacie/Billcie Saga) who may try to harass the ever living hell out of you. Quickly make your FB private!

      EDIT: I also sent you a message a few minutes ago. It should be in your “other” folder.

      • Jayme Peters

        My fb is private πŸ˜‰ thanks!

    • Wow. Crazy.

      • Lets assume he has

      • keca

        That was my first thought. I mean, they truly have nothing better to do.

      • Bob23325

        I just flashed a mental image of him in his superhero cape (made out of LV bags) hunched over his keyboard coming to the rescue of all future photo thieves outed here…. Just keep this in mind Jayme, it may not be her reporting things.
        I think I’ll spend the day out in the sunshine working on the RR. Those two have taken up too much of my time.

        • Jayme Peters

          yea that’s probably true. I’m just kinda ticked that it got me locked out of my account for over an hour…I mean geeze, the damage was already done. The information is all over the web!!

      • Photo Stealers

        I wouldn’t be surprised if they did it themselves given the posts were public.

      • C Sab

        If so, she’ll fuck herself over just like they have. Lol

    • Not on my own comuter

      Yes, make everything private. EVERYTHING

    • C Sab

      Sounds familiar. Oh well, it’s too late. People already know. Tell everyone to share the posts so that even if they get removed the link will still spread.

  • Michelle

    I’m a part of one of the wedding swap groups she is in. Late last year she started advertising as a student at Iowa State trying to gain experience and therefore doing photography cheap. Since Christmas (roughly), she’s stopped saying she new and now has all this experience. She says she travels back and forth between Des Moines area and the QC. She “started out” as a wedding planner that also does photography. No thanks. You can’t do all the roles in a wedding. Several brides have commented on the post concerned about what their wedding photos will look like. Well, they will look exactly like what you paid for. $509 for unlimited time, photos and engagement pictures.

  • This happens if enough ppl report the link thanks for sharing it

    Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

  • Melinda Potter

    Abbigail,
    The photographer you stole from, worked very hard to get where he is today. Most likely, lots of second and third shooting, lots of practice, lots of trial and error. Building slowly both his skills and his professional relationships, not to mention all that he had to learn about business. He did not build his business on a wim just because his family and friends said “hey! You should be in business. You’re awesome!” just because he owned a camera that was somehow better than theirs. (BTW hate to burst your bubble, but that kind of thing happens to everybody that lets it be known they have an interest in photography. It’s up to us to be self aware enough to go about things the right way, so we have the best chance at success)

    Not only did you claim the years of hard work from this photographer, but what about the couples pictured in the photos? What about how they feel working for YOUR advertising and marketing? A person they don’t know, and have never met is using their wedding day to lure people into hiring them. Their relationship with their photographer was kind of cheapened and rudely taken advantage of by you. Did you even see the people in the photos you stole? Or did you only see that they were really well done photos that would surely convince people to pay you?
    After viewing your pages, it’s obvious that you don’t value or understand yet, the hard work behind being a professional wedding photographer, but could you at least TRY to respect people that do hold it highly, and completely understand that it’s not just about showing up and snapping pictures?
    Please, get a hold of the original artist sourced above, and do the right thing by him. Stop the nonsense, and take full responsibility for what you have done. It’s really the only way for you to move on from this, and become the photographer you want to be. No more short cuts. Put in that effort and hard work, and build something to be proud of, instead of something you have to lie or embellish about.

    • Helena

      Beautifully put Melinda.

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Click on the hyperlinks to Original Source.

  • Melinda Potter

    The original source is always linked, but the original artists aren’t mentioned because of SEO

  • Melinda Potter

    Also the thumbnails when viewed are with the stolen content and original source side by side

  • Bob23325

    Unbelievable! Every photo from entire weddings from the same photographer. SMH…

    • Phoxy_Photog

      I mean, did she really THINK she wouldn’t get caught?

      • Bob23325

        And then accused him of stealing from her! Priceless!

  • Laura

    This type of stuff makes me just want to quit.

    • Marc W.

      Just be better than these people.

      • Laura

        It makes me not want to put any of my work out there. I’ve busted two this year that took my newborns. And one took a birth. A BIRTH!

        • Marc W.

          Unfortunately it means that you’ve done good.

        • Danny Downes

          If you rise above them then you can look down on them from a better vantage point.

        • Helena

          A birth?! Man, that’s really low.

  • U Really That Dumb?

    When she says she has PROOF she took these images, I take that to mean that she has Keystroke Tracker and Screen Recorder turned on so we can see how she Right Click – Save As for each image.

    • Just a Girl

      HA! That is funny!

  • U Really That Dumb?

    She still has posts throughout local DSM FB groups and advertising to unknowing victims.

    • chuck knuckles

      I don’t have facebook, so others will have to spread the word there… but,

      Abbigail O’Brien, of Abbigail O’Brien Photography in Des Moines, IA, look what happens when customers google your name, or your business name…

      Your listing here is #4 and rising! By the end of the day it will be #1 and when people want to search the internet for how you do business – they will read about it HERE.

      • Phoxy_Photog

        It’s #1 now.

        • chuck knuckles

          And it will stay #1 FOREVER. Her internet presence will be dominated by her thievery, lies and fraud, and the horrible way she treats her customers. THIS SITE will be the first (and often only) place people will go to find out information about Abbigale O’Brien, of Abbigail O’Brien Photography in Des Moines, Iowa. Her business name and reputation is worse than dirt, and will never improve. She could easily be sued by any number of her victims, either photographers she stole from or customers she duped into hiring her under false pretenses. I see a bankruptcy in her near future. Her future employers will google her name too and be sent right here to get a good look at her true character.

          I see a long future of lifting french fries out of boiling grease at minimum wage for Abbigail. At least she’s got that Canon Rebel with a kit lens…

          • Phoxy_Photog

            Too bad she used her real name for her business.
            She’ll probably re-brand with some other name and continue this behavior.

  • captain-confuzzled

    Seems this young lady has some attitude issues. She is very young, but these Twitter posts don’t paint a very customer oriented professional in the making. She doesn’t seem to post them to anyone, just venting I guess, so that is at least something. And I blocked out part of the twitter handle since there are no stolen photos there, but I think the posts are telling in terms of character in her photography business. (attachments and oops for the double one)

    • Marc W.

      I’m of the mindset that if you wouldn’t say it to someone’s face, be it the client and/or all your friends, you don’t put it online.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Apparently her husband is into Fernandos.
      I didn’t want to get into trouble by assuming what that is so I Googled “DSM Fernandos”. DO NOT DO IT if you are at work OR on a even semi public computer! Just saying.

    • V323

      If anything on your social media isn’t all gushy “I love my clients, I love my job” you’re doing it wrong.

    • C Sab

      Even if she wasn’t a thief she definitely doesn’t have what it takes to run a business. So unprofessional.

  • captain-confuzzled

    unfortunately, there are some seasoned trolls on FB that are also past photo stealers, so they get off on abusing the FB reporting tools.

  • Bob23325

    Ther are a lot of good detectives on here…. What everyone is missing is any response from the photographer in GA the images were lifted from (or, that lifted the images from her as claimed). Camera used, RAW files, etc., are the technical end of this. I would be content seeing the contract for photography services. I’m sure one of them can produce signed contracts with date, location, etc. if so inclined. I am not recommending contacting or soliciting anything from either one of them. The photographer in GA will speak up when ready… again, if so inclined. This is the individual that does (or doesn’t) have a serious copyright violation to deal with.

  • Michael Goolsby

    Dear Abbigail,

    By now, there must be a lot going through your head. So please let me encourage you to slow down, take a deep breath, and just read some of the advise you’re receiving here.

    First, let me introduce myself. My name is Michael. I’ve been a professional fulltime wedding photographer for 21 years, with a number of other prior years as a newpaper photojournalist and photo editor. I first learned photography from my father. His very successful studio lived for 53 years. There are others who contribute to this website who are also very experienced. To put it bluntly, we are not the kinds of people that you’re going to fool. We can look at multiple photographs and tell very easily and quickly what the experience level the photographer who took them is at. In your case, it is extremely easy to see that there was no way that the sample wedding album photographs were taken by the same person who took the photos we currently see on your Facebook page. The wedding photos are clearly made by an experienced professional. The photos on your Facebook were clearly made by an inexperienced amateur.

    Please understand, Abbigail, that these remarks are not intended as an insult. Rather, they are just a professional evaluation. The insult actually is in the presumption that people like us would not see the difference. But we do. And the difference is quite substantial.

    I might add, too, that NO PHOTOGRAPHER who could produce the high quality from the sample albums would, by any conceivable stretch of the imagine, price their services as you have done. When your highest price package is only $600 and includes all day, unlimited wedding day photography, an elaborate engagement session, AND the rehearsal…. well, again, professionals easily recognize that as a total newbie who has no clue what she is doing, business-wise.

    As far as claiming that you have “proof”, and that you’ve been hacked, and that you’re going to take legal action and so forth… Abbie, you just don’t know how cliche’ all of that is. Indeed, so common are these excuses that we site members long ago came up with a “bingo board” of common bullshit excuses which we often tick off as we hear each ridiculous claim. Yours are not only common, but are also the most-cited. You are coming across as the child who got caught with her hand in the cookie jar by the mother who already raised 10 children. That is to say, you think that you’re being original and clever, when in fact, we’ve heard it all endlessly already.

    In short, PLEASE drop the bullshit. It only makes you look foolish. Even if you do manage to deceive those closest to your inner circle, as well as those who simply do not know any better, you’ll only hurt yourself in the long run. You’re young, inexperienced, and eager. If you drop the charade, you may have a good chance at starting over fresh. Or… don’t. Keep up the bullshit. Continue to claim that you have “proof” or that you’re “taking legal action”. And then you’ll see your photo career ended almost before it’s done. The clients you do have will be demanding their retainers back, and you’ll have to explain to those who don’t why their pictures are nowhere near as good as the ones you advertised with. (By the way, there’s no logic in removing images that others showed to be stolen if they are, in fact, your own. No logic whatsoever. Of course, this is something else we’ve already seen repeatedly.)

    In all the time I’ve visited and contributed to this website, I’ve NEVER seen anyone outed as a photo stealer vindicated by any of their claims to the contrary. Never any proof. Never any legal action. About 3/4 of all of them, in fact, seem to simply drop off the face of the earth, photo business wise. Probably for the best.

    But I will make this offer to you:

    Proof is easy. Exif data on raw files cannot easily be manipulated. If you send to me but ONE RAW FILE from any of the numerous wedding photos in question that have been specifically cited as stolen, I will personally vouch for your proof in this forum and publicly apologize for my misjudgment. You are welcome to send the file itself or a link to somewhere like Dropbox. Whatever the case, THIS COULD ALL BE OVER TODAY. My email address is: acworthphotog@gmail.com. I will sincerely be hoping to hear from you.

    Michael

    • captain-confuzzled

      nicely said.

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      Thank you, Michael. May your words get through to her.

      • Michael Goolsby

        Thanks Celine. I hope that anything we might say to her does. But I think we already know that answer, don’t we? ;-(

        • Melinda Potter

          Yep πŸ™

          • V323

            I keep thinking, if they were her images, why the need to delete? You can bet your ass if someone says my works is theirs, and I’m accused of being a thief, LAST thing I would do is remove said images. They’d just be coupled with a few RAW files to corroborate.
            When you delete, you’ve already admitted they weren’t yours. Now, Abbigail, do the right thing and fully admit what you’ve done, and make proper amends.

          • Phoxy_Photog

            Yep, and THIS is why I keep RAW files. I didn’t at first (like in my first year) but now anything that gets sent to a client as well as sometimes more, I keep them.

            Justen, did you add a copyright line into your metadata at all? If you did, it may be retained on the photos that she posted on her website. I know Facebook strips metadata, but if anyone actually downloaded the photos off her actual website, metadata may be intact. I have my name listed in the metadata of my photos. Granted it’s possible to change that, but someone with Abbi’s lack of smarts probably didn’t know it was possible.

          • BigAl

            I don’t understand why anyone would delete RAW files. It would be like destroying your negatives, and they are a lot harder to archive. That is an issue I know about, because all my film negatives and transparencies from my years of shooting film were destroyed when my flat got flooded. Film, pre digital, just did not offer any sensible backup solution, as copying originals is so difficult.

            Digital I would have three copies, two local and one off site. At least it’s not to hard to get a good friend to look after a couple of hard drives for you.

            Alan

          • Most newbies and every single outed stealer to date has never altered an image exif/metadata They have no idea what it is. What some do is strip it with software. Most times unintentionally.
            Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

  • C Sab

    Other people are posting links too, the trolls can’t get everyone.

  • C Sab

    If you can repost it, do so. And this time tell everyone what you just told us about people reporting it and getting it removed and tell everyone to save the link and share it so the trolls can’t keep the truth hidden.

  • Michael Goolsby

    Having been formerly based in Atlanta for most of my career, I can tell you that I recognize several of the venues featured in this fauxtographer’s samples collection, and can assure you that they are NOT anywhere near Des Moines, Iowa. We have photographed 3 weddings in Tallapoosa, GA (near the western border of Alabama), alone.

    • Marc W.

      I bet GA stole those locations too.

  • Jayme Peters

    More stolen work! Had a client of hers contact me and these are the images Abbigail sent her:

    • Marc W.

      Proves intent. (says the armchair lawyer)

    • Melinda Potter

      *Swear word*

    • Just a Girl

      WOW!!!

    • Kat Forsyth

      I’m not seeing anything attached to your post, Jayme?

      • U Really That Dumb?

        Refresh the page.

        • Kat Forsyth

          Ah! Thanks! Duh.

    • Kat Forsyth

      So are these all Justen’s, too? She REALLY wants to be him, doesn’t she?

      • Jayme Peters

        No some of these are in Iowa. I posted to my local photog page to see if any of these are theirs. The 2 arch bridge is in Davenport.

    • jenna.krebs@mchsi.com

      hello, I was just informed of this this morning, there is a good chunk of photos above I took myself. There are three Davenport IA photographers who were stolen from represented in this chunk (that I know of), one in TN and also one in GA that I know.

      • Jayme Peters

        Sorry to hear that Jenna!

      • chuck knuckles

        Jenna, there are lots photo thieves hiding on the sidelines, waiting to see what you and the other Davenport photographers are going to do to discourage future thievery. Please don’t just give Abbigial a pat on the back and send her on her way.

    • JKseriouslythough

      Some of these are mine, but not all of them. I was made aware by my clients this morning. This has made me really sad to know she did this to me and so many others. I could understand if she didn’t know how inappropriate it is to user someone else’s work as your own but the fact that she threatened to sue people she stole from breaks my heart, I feel really bad for her.

      • chuck knuckles

        Abbigail is basing her business plan on the fact you and the others she stole from won’t do anything about it except feel heartbroken.
        Is it a sound business plan?

      • captain-confuzzled

        so sorry that she did this to you. It really is a step beyond just putting stolen photos on your website, to sending them to potential clients as yours. There have been some who have stolen and then when found out have fixed it and started again, so it is possible. It makes it so much worse when they use an attack response. I wish I understood how they think that will help, when the proof shown here is pretty compelling that they did something wrong.

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        I feel sorry she chose the wrong path. I don’t know what compelled her to do it, but I sincerely hope she doesn’t do it again.

        Whatever the reason may be, it doesn’t excuse her from the consequences of her actions. It’s obviously up to you what you choose to do regarding your stolen images, and I wouldn’t judge you for your decision. My thought is whether letting this go would make her more likely to do this or something similar again. She’s made victims out of innocent people, and seems to take absolutely no responsibility for her actions, and is actually blaming the victims. I can’t understand that at all. She owes so many people so much more than that, and she’s not doing any of it.

      • Jayme Peters

        These were images she sent to clients to get them to book. And they sure did! Under false pretenses that this was “her work”.

  • Justen Clay

    Hi everyone,

    I’m Justen Clay, the photographer who took the images being discussed. Thanks to everyone helping to inform me of my images being used by Abigail O’Brien. I haven’t contacted her and hope I don’t have to. The last thing I want to do is to take legal action. I see that she has taken down the photos off of her website which is a great first step to ending this peacefully. I also saw that she has publicly defended that the images are hers and that she is planning on taking legal action. She has publicly accused me of illegal actions which is unacceptable. I will need her to permanently delete all of my photos and anyone else’s that she’s stolen and publicly retract her accusation towards me.

    Thanks again everyone,

    Justen Clay

    • I agree..

    • Marc W.
    • C Sab

      Sadly, 99.9% of thieves will never admit that they were in the wrong and will try to look like the victim and will attack the person they stole from. Chances are you will need to take legal action of you want to end this for good.

    • Phoxy_Photog

      Justen, your images are beautiful. It’s one thing for her to steal them, but another to begin accusing YOU of illegal actions. At this point, have your lawyer send her a cease and desist letter. If she continues to accuse you or claim the images are hers, then you’ll have a great legal case.

      • azmerm

        This is a good reason to shoot raw. JPGs can be duplicated/copied and exif info altered, but only the original creator can produce the raw files.

        • Yep!

          Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

        • Phoxy_Photog

          Abbi probably thinks “RAW” means an unedited JPG.

          • C Sab

            If she even knows that term exists.

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      Thank you for posting here, Justen. I hope she can come to see reason and will do the right thing by you. She should consider herself very lucky you aren’t inclined to sue her, though it seems like you’d have a case (just an opinion, as I’m not a lawyer).

      The fact she is still claiming its her work and that you’re the thief… well, she’s willing to ruin your reputation to try to save herself, and that’s unfortunate. I hope you can get somewhere with her. Good luck.

    • captain-confuzzled

      Thanks for posting here Justen. it really makes a difference in validating the story when the original photographer chimes in. You wouldn’t believe how many photo stealers try the old ‘I had permission’ or ‘I was a second shooter’ and various other explanations that aren’t usually true, but hearing from you directly verifies that the stealing took place.

      I can fully understand why you don’t want to take legal action. As long as she stops accusing you of theft (and apologizes for that) and stops using your pictures, I’m sure you have better things to focus on than court battles. It sounds like enough people know about her shady dealings to keep her from doing it outright again. At least I hope so.

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        She has to understand she did something wrong first. If she doesn’t, she’ll likely do it again. I sincerely hope that won’t be the case here.

    • Big Brother

      You have another new fan here. Really nice work Justen

    • Jayme Peters

      I just want to say, your work is amazing @justenclay:disqus πŸ™‚
      Really sucks that someone did this to you.

    • Me, Myself and I

      Justen, you really shouldn;t let this slide. She violated several of your rights and the rights of your customers.

      If she follows the normal thief pattern, she’ll lay low for a while and do it again to another photographer.

    • Helena

      If you don’t want to go to court, at least consider sending her an appropriate invoice for the unauthorised commercial use of your images. She evidently places no value on the copyright of her images, but needs to understand that other people do.

    • Big Brother

      I agree with the others. It’s one thing for someone to steal from you, another to then use your work to commit fraud, and possibly the last straw to say YOU stole them from her!

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Abigail O’Brien,

    You need to listen to what’s been said by the people here and NOT Bill, Stacie, & Melinda. Those three will land you in deep trouble no matter what they tell you. Look at the evidence and talk to your lawyer. Start writing checks and apologies TODAY!

    The fact that you emailed out stolen images proves fraud and is a criminal offense. That’s something you’ll need a GOOD criminal defense attorney for.

    You should also tell your boss that you’ll be needing time off to deal with the legal fall out and HOPE that they understand. You know that either way they are going to find out so it’s best that you tell them and not let them read about it in the local paper or see it on the news.

    Again, ovary up and STOP listening to Bill, Stacie, and Melinda. You probably don’t know this but Melinda is looking at jail time as she’s already in the middle of a court case where once the judge sees everything she’s been doing is going to be PISSED OFF! So yeh, you do NOT want to get involved in all of those subpoenas and that legal quagmire!

    • C Sab

      It’s sad that Bill and Stacie have such pitiful, meaningless lives that they need to stick their noses outside of their own little grudge match. Lol

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        Can we just leave them out of it? Please? I’m so sick of them.

        • C Sab

          Too late for that.

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            Then let’s not make it any worse. This isn’t the place to antagonize them further.

          • C Sab

            Says someone that’s also mentioned them here. Not by name but it’s obvious who you’re talking about. All I’m doing is stating facts, I’m an honest guy, if that’s antagonizing them then they need to get some thick skin or start being decent people for once in their lives. Not my fault if there’s nothing positive that can be said about them.

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            Explaining why bans are happening is relevant to people commenting on the blog. Insulting people is not relevant to this post.

            If you want to discuss them, please do so on your own blog, but calling them cowards etc is not relevant to THIS entry.

          • C Sab

            It’s relevant to them, that’s enough. There’s no other way to describe them.

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            And what will continuing to poke at them accomplish? Please, if you have any respect for this site and what it does, you’ll back off. It’s not about you or me on here, it’s about something larger, and we all have to keep that in mind.

          • Just dont say his name replace it with Lord Voludermount if you must.

            Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

  • Big Brother

    It’s really easy to prove the images are yours by any one of the following methods:

    1. Get the subject in your pictures (the happy couple?) to pop along and say “this is me” and actually look like the person(s) in the photos.
    2. You’ll have all the frames either side of the one in question. You know, the ones you cull as part of the process of only displaying the final ones.

    3. The original files (RAW/or hi-res JPG) files with matching camera serial numbers in the metadata.

    I’m sure the helpful people here can think up a few more, we’re all real photographers here so the above is second nature.

    • captain-confuzzled

      you are referring to Abbi right? I don’t want Justen to think we are asking him to prove anything.

      • Big Brother

        it’s a general note to any photographer. They can easily prove the mages are their own. However not so much a photo stealer because they only have access to what they can steal online which is usually lo-res websize images.

        • Big Brother

          p.s. no, it’s clear that Justen is the real owner.
          As Michael says, it’s easy to compare photos against a photographer’s body of work to tell if they are theirs. Without intending to offend anyone, the images currently on Abbi’s FB (as her work) is poles appart from the stolen photos that clearly belong to Justen.

          • Photo Stealers

            If you go to Justen’s Facebook Page you’ll see the couples in the above images tagged in the posts and using the images as their profile pictures. Just another tick in the “original photographer” box.

          • Big Brother

            ^^^^ That could be #4! πŸ™‚

          • In abbis world the groom and bride profile were hacked and they were brain washed to belived that someone else took the images

    • Branwen

      I wonder if there would be a news channel in different areas willing to run the story?

      • Just a Girl

        Granted, its been a few years BUT Paula Sands at KWQC sounds like someone who will take this on. If I remember correctly she was always doing Consumer issue stories. For all I know shes moved on though and is no longer in the Quads….

        • Kelly

          Let’s just say I have some major connections with the local media. I have passed along the story to one already, and if they don’t pick it up, I’ll be contacting more friends. I can see how it would be hard to pursue though, and they don’t want to libel themselves just in case, but I’m definitely trying. she pissed off the wrong person getting my Facebook blocked, and of course the biggest issue being how WRONG it is to steal and how she is now screwing over her own clients by refusing to contact them.

          • Just a Girl

            Yeah, its touchy especially since she has pulled the photos and no one she duped has come forward. It pretty much drops it back into the real photographers lap to do something.

  • Jayme Peters

    Great! Reported yet again. And I’m locked out of my fb acct for 24 hrs. And the error message said if it became repetitive, they will permanently disable my account!! WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF?? Now I’m reallllly mad! If they do that, I’ll lose my business page.

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      What were you reported for? It’s always best to stay away from posting on the pages of those who are outed. Photo Stealers actively discourages it, in fact. I don’t know if that’s what happened, but it’s something to keep in mind for next time.

      • Melinda Potter

        As far as I know Celine she’s just sharing the link on Iowa buy sell pages and warning people.

        • Celine (peaceetc)

          Well, we know we have a friendly neighborhood duo who thrives on getting us into trouble, no matter what it is. I’m sorry this has happened. I wish they would just go away.

      • Jayme Peters

        No I didn’t do that. I shared the link, making brides aware of the situation in the wedding buy and sell groups. Never even mentioned her name. I am awaiting a response from facebook. I researched, and couldn’t find any reason that I violated community standards. I did however delete 3 of the posts, because she can’t get into the other group that has over 8,000 members. That post is still there. I did do screen shots of entire threads so I have proof.

        • Celine (peaceetc)

          Then it must be the link to this site. I think the previous duo has reported any posts with links to here so much, that it’s now considered “bad” by Facebook. Again, I’m sorry this has happened to you. It’s happened to me, too, as well as others on here.

          • Big Brother

            My thoughts exactly. Lord Voldemort has reported this website so much it must be on their “flag” list to just take anything down. May even be automated.

        • Just a Girl

          Might be wise to keep in mind that just because its a Closed Group doesn’t mean the post can’t be reported. Her friends could be reporting it, other people could have joined the group with the sole intent of reporting it because its got this websites link attached to it. Hell, who knows. With all of the Shares that you’ve said the post has received I’d play it safe and just pull it. Theres no way that they can keep up with that many shares and the attention its had to have received elsewhere just by being shared that many times. I realize once you remove the post the shares will disappear BUT its also already been read by a lot of people.

      • Billcie strikes again!

        Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

        • Laura

          I’m almost 100% positive of that.

          • Bob23325

            The trolls are quite active… They are still up to their old tricks.

          • C Sab

            They don’t seem to be making any posts though. At least it seems like it based on the fact no new screenshots have been posted. Lol

    • Photo Stealers

      What’s really sad is that someone/s allegedly bent on revenge against me are potentially ruining many peoples wedding day by trying to keep this story under wraps.

      What slays me is that I can’t count how many times I’ve been the last person to photograph a loved one at a wedding. Those pictures are cherished. Imagine if the last time your parent was photographed was at a wedding with someone that was presenting themselves as more highly qualified than they were and all of your pictures of your Father came back blurry, underexposed or not even delivered because the photographer ran off with the money (not unheard of here)? There’s things that can be redone – senior pictures, baby sessions, family portraits. Weddings cannot be restaged.

      I’m already hearing some stories about Abbigail’s clients and my heart goes out to you all. If you feel brave enough to post here there are some locals who really want to help. While there are a few bad seeds on the whole we are a good bunch.

    • C Sab

      Yup, there’s been a couple of cowards who report every link to this site they can to try and suppress the truth. Still, they can’t stop us all. Lol

    • C Sab

      If you’re gonna post links, do it places that are private so the thieves can’t get to them.

  • Jayme Peters

    Hey Kelly! Apparently the post in the large group, has been shared 900+ times!!!! Reporting won’t do you a bit of good now, Abbigail, will it? You’re finished and for good reason. How dare you call yourself a “photographer”? By the way, you do realize I can report you too, right?! Oh, best believe I will…as many times as it takes for you crawl back in whatever hole you came out of. Good Riddance.

    • C Sab

      That’s what people like Abbigail and Bill and Stacie don’t realize, they can’t stop the truth from spreading when it’s in the Internet. The more they try to fight back now, the worse it’ll be for them when they get what’s coming to them.

    • C Sab

      Can’t stop the truth from spreading when it’s on the Internet. Too bad these cowards don’t realize that.

  • Photo Stealers

    If the post is public it’s because there’s a few past photographers whom earned listings that are reporting every link to PS as harassment. If you link to PS make sure it’s in either a group that is locked down or friends only. I am SO sorry.

  • C Sab

    Doesn’t matter. They’re desperate to keep the truth about themselves hidden. They’ll report any post on FB that mentions them or this site. They’ll even stalk people’s personal profiles looking for something to report so set everything on your profile to friends only as well.

  • Michael Goolsby

    Unrepentant fauxtographer? Gloves off.

    What a stupid little twit. Abbigail O’Brien of Abbigail O’Brien Photography thought it would be so easy. With a newfound “passion” (ugh) for photography, she wanted to make the leap from beginner to experienced professional quickly, without all of that “hard work” that “other people” do when they’re learning. No, that wasn’t good enough for Abbigail O’Brien of Abbigail O’Brien Photography. She was entitled to better.

    And so Abbigail O’Brien of Abbigail O’Brien Photography figured she would STEAL the work of someone else, someone FAR AWAY in Georgia, so far that us stupid people would NEVER guess that the brilliant photographs she claimed as her own were actually created by someone else. With such nice photographs, she’d not only fool clients into trusting her with their wedding day, but she’d gain praise and adulation for her “skills”, too!

    But things haven’t turned out quite as planned. She got away with it for a few months, luring a few unsuspecting couples along the way. But then, one day, the wrong person saw the wrong photo, put two-and-two together, and the next thing she knew, she was being outed as a “Photo Stealer”. And when that happened, she did what most photostealers do: she blamed others. Yes, this stupid fucking twit, already proven to be half as clever as she thought, doubled-down and thought she might still be able to LIE her way out of it. All the usual excuses were there: “Hackers did it”, “I took those years ago”, “I have proof”, and — always my favorite — “I’m taking legal action!” Lame, lame, lame, and lame.

    Does it matter that the actual photographer came along to verify the work as his own? Nope, not to Abbigail O’Brien of Abbigail O’Brien Photography. Does it matter that the weddings in question were obviously and verifiably photographed in Georgia, and NOT far away in Iowa? Nope, not to Abbigail O’Brien of Abbigail O’Brien Photography. Does it matter that the quality of work in question was leaps and bounds superior to the utter crap that was actually her own? Nope, not to Abbigail O’Brien of Abbigail O’Brien Photography.

    Ladies and gentleman, we are dealing with, yet again, a narcissist and, quite possibly, a functioning psychopath. Abbigail O’Brien of Abbigail O’Brien Photography does not follow rules, she has no empathy for others, she is a pathological liar and manipulator, she refuses to apologize or demonstrate any remorse, she blames others for her own behavior, she has an inflated sense of self-worth, she uses “God” to legitimize her actions, and she attempts to punish those who try and expose her. And, of course, Abbigail O’Brien of Abbigail O’Brien Photography STEALS what she did not create and what she has no right to take.

    In short, Abbigail O’Brien of Abbigail O’Brien Photography is a SCUMBAG.

    • Bob23325

      Is this a template? It’s a good one! I visually changed the name to “the trolls that shall not be named” and changed the state… it fit quite nicely.
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      For all of you new participants getting bans… we’ve been there too. It may not be her, but trolls reporting your public posts in their crusade to wrong what is right. FB is their battlefield. Do not post anything that is public or you will keep getting bans and/or suspensions. I’ve had a 24 hour ban and a 3 day ban already. I had a photo reported for nudity. Only a couple photos were public… and one was a fried turkey from last Thanksgiving. FB did let me keep my naked turkey photo.
      .
      STOP posting on FB or you are done!

      • C Sab

        Nah, they can post on FB, they just have to make sure that the posts are as private as possible.

        • Bob23325

          If they rely on FB for their networking/business they need to stop posting about this situation and tighten up their privacy settings. I’m sure Abbigail did not stumble on this whole reporting posts stuff by herself…. know what I mean?

          • C Sab

            Obviously she didn’t but like I said, people can still post on FB without the thieves seeing the posts.

    • C Sab

      Most photo thieves are narcissists and psychopaths/sociopaths. That’s why they’re so easy to catch, expose, and beat when they try to fight back. They’re too predictable.

      • Very very predictable.

        Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

    • I dont blame you …. the only reason we still hovering like bees is because she said she has proof that the stolen images are hers.
      It is upsetting.

    • Phoxy_Photog

      Well-said.

      What is so wrong with actually taking your own photos, and not getting into this mess in the first place? If you suck taking photos, there are a million places to get advice and learn. I’m in several photography groups and have seen people go from Abbi’s skill level to amazing professionals with perfect photos in 6 months.

      Sadly, Abbigail is apparently married. I wonder if her husband knows about all this. If he does and still wants to be married to her, then he’s just as much of a problem.

      Speaking of married – I wonder how her own wedding photos turned out.

  • Phoxy_Photog

    Report her profile.

    • Km

      I reported her personal and business page multiple times!! I’m beyond pissed I have clients who want to book and I can’t even respond to them!

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        We don’t know it’s Abbigail doing the reporting. I’d be willing to bet it’s a previous outed stealer, but I can’t be certain. I’m sorry you’re having such difficulties. I know how much getting a ban can suck.

  • Danny Downes

    Abbigail. You appear to be stuck in quicksand at the moment. The more you struggle, the deeper you’ll sink. You might find that there are other people already stuck in that sand and they will tell you that they can help you. All they will do is weigh you down and take you to the bottom of the pit with them.

    There is a way out of this horrible situation. There is a lifeline, a branch that you can hold on to and pull yourself up and out. I urge you to grab this branch now before it’s too late. Please don’t sink in a whirlpool of lies, threats and childish behaviour.

    The solution is simple and it’s there for you to take right now. So do the correct and honest thing. Right that wrong by admitting your mistake. Apologise to the photographers from whom you stole. Ignore anyone who tries to ‘help’ you with their bad advice on how you can ‘win’ this battle. Integrity isn’t about winning but stealing is about losing.

    Do it. Do it now. Save your career. Do it for yourself. Do it for your husband. Do it for your future. Do it for the photographers.

    • Jayme Peters

      And might I add…stop reporting people for BS. I am STILL locked out of my account. I have messages on my personal and biz page from clients who want to book, that I cannot respond to. Now you’re messing with MY BUSINESS and I will come after you for that if it doesn’t stop. All the shared link posts, I have taken down…seriously, enough is enough! Admit that you were wrong and move one..you are being so childish.

    • You can’t fix stupid

      She has a group on FB that she started, she is admin and she still has stolen images in that group.

      My bad, it seems like she has removed the images.

      • Is it a active group?

        Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

        • You can’t fix stupid

          No, just a handful of her friends but all the photos have been removed.

          • Guess she is reading the comments here lol..

            Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

    • Jim Martin

      You couldn’t be more right.

      Sadly, I don’t think she is capable of grabbing the branch. Her aggressive Facebook behavior combined with baldfaced lies and threats to sue the real photographer lead me to believe she has been consumed by whatever personality disorder (sociopathy, narcissism, etc) she has.

      She may feign regret, remorse, etc in order to gain sympathy, or to make us feel guilty, but it will almost certainly be disingenuous.

      I hope she takes your advise.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      There is way more to Abbigails problems. She better take a step back, hire an attorney, and start getting her affairs in order as she’s likely to spend a lot of time behind bars.
      Hopefully she’s said her peace with her family. Even more so, I hope she’s told them the honest truth so they aren’t surprised when PD comes and takes her away.

      • Phoxy_Photog

        She needs to know that the fine for EACH copyright infringement is several thousands of dollars, if the photographers she stole from pursue it (and even more if the images are registered). And I hope they do pursue it. The only way to put an end to stealing like this is for people to fear the consequences.

        Sorry to sound like a 7th grader here, but… sucks to be you, Abbigail.

        • Me, Myself and I

          Up to 150000$ per infraction and another 2500$ to 25000$ for every watermark removed under the DMCA’s provisions on tampering with rights management information.

      • C Sab

        I don’t know what you mean by there being more to her problems but that sounds familiar. πŸ˜›

    • Kimo

      It seems like she she noticed that her photos couldn’t earn her business or respect as a pro, so she stole to hide her inability. Almost like she was trying to prove her skills to someone who had “nay-sayed” her or her plans.

      Of course, as often happens, being caught opened her to more nay-saying and embarrassment. She has to fight back to hide her shame, in the face of her family, her friends, her nay-sayers, and most of all, that which she sees in the mirror. She likely figures that because she’s so small, the photographers damaged will just let it slide.

      • Danny Downes

        That’s an interesting theory Kimo and it could have some merit.

        For Abbigail, there will be a lot more fallout from this than we’ll ever see. I bet when she was right-clicking to save those images to her hard drive she never thought for a moment that it would go so badly wrong.

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        As of now, it does appear as if the photographers from whom she stole are going to let it slide. That’s their decision, and I understand why they might not want to do it. It gets expensive, time consuming, and can be emotionally draining. But people who do this need to understand there are consequences to their actions. The public outing on here becomes the consequences, especially if no other actions are taken. That is why this site is so important, because it gives a voice to the victims, and holds the thieves accountable.

        • Big Brother

          Unfortunatley that then gives a green light to others to do the same. It’s such a shame.

          • Jenny M

            Which is the reason that I am finding it increasingly important to chronicle my experience taking action against the person who stole from me. It’s not a big suit, but to me it is important to send the message. I applaud this site’s efforts, but I really believe our voices need to be in the courts in order for them to be clearly heard.

          • keca

            Please keep us updated! I read your story on a photo group on FB, and when I refreshed it had been deleted. I hope you wipe up the floor with the thief you are dealing with!

          • Jenny M

            I had to delete a lot, due to freaking FB bans. But I am keeping it updated, as much as legally allowed, on my FB page, which is my sign in here.

  • Laura

    Keep fighting the good fight. I’ve been MIA this weekend. Keeping an eye on these protestors since I’m pretty much on the other side of the train tracks from them.

  • Michael Goolsby

    Well, her website doesn’t have any photos, and her Facebook page appears to have more photos of herself than anyone else. A very strange way to promote one’s “business”.

  • I wrote ms Abbigail (Abbi) obrien (O’brien) of Des Moines, Iowa a very nice, kindly worded email trying to explain to her how her fighting all this is useless and how she has a chance to make things better if she just own up to things and make the appropriate apologies/restitution. I was very measured and polite (yes, really!).
    Never heard back from her.
    That says it all.
    *lights the torch*

    • You can’t fix stupid

      That is a pity that Abbigail (Abbi) obrien (O’brien) of Des Moines, Iowa didn’t reply. Maybe Abbigail (Abbi) obrien (O’brien) of Des Moines, Iowa was just busy

      • Just a Girl

        Busy? …………lifting more photos that don’t belong to her????

    • Oh, and she removed the “contact” section of her website after getting my (and I’m assuming many others) email. So she was clearly reading what was sent to her. Shame she’s chosen the “hide and wait it out” approach.

      • C Sab

        They all seem to choose that. It would be nice if more thieves were intelligent enough to realize that doesn’t work.

        • MPR1776

          Well, that’s the crux of the matter, C Sab, if they were intelligent enough to realize hiding wouldn’t work, they would have been intelligent enough to realize stealing other people’s images for the purposes of defrauding potential clients would bad for business.