Natashia Nicole Photography aka Red Orchid Weddings in Weston, Wisconsin

Web:  http://www.redorchidweddings.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Red-Orchid-Wedding-Photography/1514878288798758

Web:  http://natashianicolephotography.com/
Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/natashianicolephoto?fref=photo
Facebook2: https://www.facebook.com/natashia.piskoty

While she seems to mostly feature her own work in her portfolio she has used others images without permission for ads and inspirational posts as well as plagiarized.

Update 11/16/2014

She’s changed her name to Red Orchid Weddings.

While this first blog post says something about other photographers no credit was given nor was any permission sought.  When you search the images on Google her page is the one that comes up, not the original photographer.

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  • Eric Sartoris

    IT WAS THE WEB GUY.
    I mean, her intern.
    I mean, it was just a placeholder.

    I mean, hey look! A squirrel!!!

    • ALP

      Come on, it’s not the squirrel’s fault. He totally thought they bought the photos from a stock agency.

      • Marc W.

        That’s nuts.

        • Helena

          This thread wins the internet.

  • Celine (peaceetc)

    It’s bad enough she stole stuff, but to steal from Missy… that’s just bad. So very bad.

  • Celine (peaceetc)

    To NATASHIA NICOLE PHOTOGRAPHY IN WESTON, WISCONSIN,

    Welcome to the world of being outed by Photo Stealers (Stop Stealing Photos). It is our goal to root out and put a stop to photography copyright infringement. Your outing is one step towards that goal. You used photos you were not authorized to use, which is illegal. You’re probably confused and angry, so let us try to help you get a handle on things by giving you a checklist of things you should be doing and not doing.

    Please do NOT do the following:

    1. React with anger, go into denial, or start in with the threats. We already have the evidence against you. The best thing you can do for you is to be honest and to deal with this head on.

    2. Flag comments on this listing. The mods will just put them back, so don’t waste your time.

    3. Lie or offer excuses. We have heard every excuse in the book (really, we have. One guy even blamed Obama.), and you will not come up with something we haven’t heard before. You are not a special snowflake. Nothing you can say will justify what you did, so don’t bother.

    4. Accuse us of slander (because nobody ever figures out it has to be verbal to be slander). We stick to the facts, and if something is publicly available, it’s fair game.

    5. Create fake accounts to defend yourself. We will see through it, and it’s just a waste of time.

    Please DO the following:

    1. Remove any and all stolen images immediately. That means now. Right now. And no, simply hiding them from public view doesn’t count. They need to be completely deleted.

    2. Apologize DIRECTLY to those from whom you have stolen (and tell the truth!), and offer monetary compensation. You used their images in a professional setting to try to make money, so you owe them that much.

    3. Hope they don’t sue you. Copyright infringement is illegal under the law, and you can be sued for thousands of dollars, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, for EACH stolen image. Yes, seriously.

    4. Apologize publicly, on all the sites and social media accounts where the stolen work appeared. Again, you owe it to your clients, fans, friends, etc., to be honest.

    5. Learn about how copyright works. Look up the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. What you may think you know and what is actually the truth are probably two different things (as in: no, posting someone else’s photo as “inspiration” is not a valid reason, nor is it good enough to provide credit. If you don’t have express permission to post someone else’s image, then you don’t post it. That’s it, the end).

    6. DON’T STEAL. It’s not complicated — if you didn’t take a photo and don’t have permission to use it from the actual copyright holder, then don’t use it. It’s that simple. Yes, seriously. You claim to be a photographer, so why on earth would you want to use others’ images, anyway? How does that make sense?

    And remember:

    1. If you do it again, you will be caught. We go back and check old listings to make sure they haven’t started stealing again. And don’t forget — Google knows. Anytime someone searched for your business, this listing will come up.

    2. Think about the actual victims here (no, not you) — those whose images you stole. You screwed them over. And frankly, that’s a pretty damned crappy thing to do. And think about the clients you’ve mislead by presenting a false front. They’re victims, too.

    And, finally:

    You stole from Missy MWAC. If you liked what she wrote, why didn’t you just link to it, instead of stealing it and pretending it was your own? What the heck were you thinking? Were you thinking at all?

  • Amber Kost

    That’s pretty bad, stealing from Missy. Of course someone is going to notice eventually!

  • I can assume she took everything down .. right?

    • Photo Stealers

      Mini session ad has been deleted but the blog posts are still up with credit but no direct links.

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      Heck, no. She altered the post to mention Missy, but provides no links, and makes it sound like she and Missy collaborated on it. Not good enough.

      On another post, she now names the photographers, but provides no links back to them, and still doesn’t get she’s violating their copyrights by taking them in the first place. She just doesn’t get it.

      • Natashia

        So I can’t use the photos that were on Pinterest if they are credited?

        • Helena

          Not without the original photographers express permission.

          • Natashia

            Thank you

        • Jackee Reis

          Plagiarism, look it up, Natashia.

          Or ask Mary Burke. You know, the woman who is running for governor of our state.

          No, wait – she doesn’t know the meaning of the word either.

  • Natashia

    Can anyone answer my questions? I though I did everything right and obviously I was way wrong. Can I not use images from Pinterest even if they are linked back to where I got them? And the Missy Mwac post was credited on a follow up post because I couldn’t figure out how to link the original. Why is that not good enough for credit?

    • U Really That Dumb?

      No you didn’t. You CAN’T USE ANYONE ELSES IMAGES! You are claiming to be a professional photographer so ONLY YOUR IMAGES!!!

      • Natashia

        They were linked back. Absolutely. I see other people using things from Pinterest all the time on blog posts. How is one supposed to know that you can’t do that, even if you give credit?

        • U Really That Dumb?

          GET A LAWYER AND FIND OUT!

        • Jay Gough

          I see other people using guns all the time. Doesn’t mean it’s right for me to…

          Copyright always belongs with the image maker. Always.

        • Celine (peaceetc)

          There are any number of web sites covering this very thing. Just because you are ignorant of the law, doesn’t mean it doesn’t apply to you. Pinterest is extremely misleading — just because it’s on there, doesn’t mean it’s free to use. The same goes for Google Images, and anywhere else.

          Please know a photo is copyrighted the instant the shutter is pressed. Unless it has specifically been placed into the public domain or has a Creative Commons license on it, then you must assume it is copyrighted and must obtain permission before using.

          • Natashia

            I absolutely know I am not above the law. No one is. It was a terrible mistake on my part, one that I surely wont make again. Someone on here said “think permission not credit”. I wish I would have thought of it that way. Stupid mistake. I fee very bad to the people I didn’t ask.

        • Me, Myself and I

          HOW!?!?
          By not jumping into business 10 minutes after buying a fucking camera and doing the proper ground work like building business plans, researching the laws linked to your industry, consulting a lawyer, consulting an accountant …

          You know doing your f’ing DUE DILLIGENCE you half wit!

        • Photo Stealers

          They were not originally linked back to the original photographers. There was only one small line about “inspiration” but many gloss over that.

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      It’s a copyright violation to use others’ photographs without expression permission from the photographers *before* you use them. I strongly suggest you educate yourself regarding copyright law.

      • Natashia

        Obviously that is now necessary. I guess I had no idea that you couldn’t share images from Pinterest, credit, half credit, no credit, whatever.

        • CarlaMillsPhoto

          Forget the concept of credit. Think permission.

          • Natashia

            Thats exactly where I went wrong. I was thinking credit. I really appreciate the insight.

          • Marc W.

            Does your power company take credit people give you for using your photos as payment?

        • Jay Gough

          It’s an integral part of being a professional. Displaying professionalism in all aspects of the craft. You can fix your mistakes. I suggest doing so.

          • Natashia

            Do you have any suggestions on what I can do to rectify this? I don’t know if I should write the owners of the photos to tell them of my error, or something else?

        • Marc W.

          Sharing on FB and Pinterest is one thing. Using other people’s images for your own business, that’s another.

        • Me, Myself and I

          It was ALWAYS necessary.

          Also read up on rules on:
          – Advertising (False Advertising / fraud)
          – Employement (Hiring staff or contractors)
          – Elect to work laws
          – Tax collection and remittance
          – Document collection and retention (Like the forms required under US Federal Regulation 2257 : http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2257)
          – so on so forth …

    • CarlaMillsPhoto

      It’s not a matter of credit it’s a matter of permission. They aren’t your photos don’t play with them.

      • Natashia

        Again, I honestly thought if credit was given they could be used.

        • U Really That Dumb?

          Seriously, go get a lawyer and learn the laws before hanging a shingle!

          • Natashia

            Yes, hindsight is 20/20. I sincerely apologize to everyone.

          • Marc W.

            Don’t apologize to us! Apologize and refund those you duped into taking money from!

          • Natashia

            Again, none of those sessions were done. No one was duped. People know my work.

          • Marc W.

            So you have no reason to take other people’s work, right?

        • Marc W.

          So, if I use YOUR photo so I can make money, all I need is to mention your name? Thanks, I’ll do that. =/

        • Photo Stealers

          You can’t use images without permission even if credit is given. However in this case, you didn’t originally credit any of the photographers until after this post went live.

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            That is an important point — Natashia, you’re saying credit was given, but Photo Stealers has screen captures to show credit was not given. And you still haven’t explained the Missy Mwac post to where it makes sense. You clearly wrote you came up with the list. How that morphs into you meant to give credit but couldn’t figure out how to edit the post, I just can’t figure out.

    • Me, Myself and I

      COPYRIGHT
      http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p01_uk_copyright_law

      Rights covered

      The law gives the creators of literary, dramatic, musical, artistic works, sound recordings, broadcasts, films and typographical arrangement of published editions, rights to control the ways in which their material may be used.

      The rights cover; broadcast and public performance, copying, adapting, issuing, renting and lending copies to the public.

      In many cases, the creator will also have the right to be identified as the author and to object to distortions of his work.

      International conventions give protection in most countries, subject to national laws.

      FAIR USE
      http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p09_fair_use

      What is fair use?

      In copyright law, there is a concept of fair use, also known as; free use, fair dealing, or fair practice.

      Fair use sets out certain actions that may be carried out, but would not normally be regarded as an infringement of the work.

      The idea behind this is that if copyright laws are too restrictive, it may stifle free speech, news reporting, or result in disproportionate penalties for inconsequential or accidental inclusion.

      What does fair use allow?

      Under fair use rules, it may be possible to use quotations or excerpts, where the work has been made available to the public, (i.e. published). Provided that:

      The use is deemed acceptable under the terms of fair dealing.

      That the quoted material is justified, and no more than is necessary is included.

      That the source of the quoted material is mentioned, along with the name of the author.

      FALSE ADVERTISING
      http://www.cap.org.uk/Advertising-Codes/Non-Broadcast/CodeItem.aspx?cscid={61a03caa-6750-498d-8732-68d55c0752fd}#.VFFafPl4rYg

      Just read that whole page.

      Aren;t you glad there are people out there to do the hard business wotrk for you?

      FFS, why is it OUR job to tell you about the laws YOU SHOULD ALRERADY KNOW TO OPERATE YOUR BUSINESS!!!

  • Celine (peaceetc)

    Then why did you preface Missy’s work by saying that the list was something you came up with? There was absolutely no mention of Missy in the original post.

    • Natashia

      I had written the original post in haste and had accidentally posted it and couldn’t figure out how to get back into it, so I did a follow up post (since deleted) that credited and linked to her facebook page.

      • Marc W.

        You knew how to delete a post, but not how to edit it? Couldn’t you have deleted it and repost it correctly? I think you’re not a truth teller.

        • Natashia

          I had to call someone that does my website stuff to figure out how to delete it. We aren’t all computer literate. You don’t know me. I knowhow easy it is to pass judgement on the internet. I truly want to make this right, not only because its just plain wrong, but because I don’t maliciously hurt people. That’s not who I am.

          • Here4theparty

            You don’t maliciously hurt people?! You have done a lot of horrible things to a few people who I hold very dear to me and have caused a lot of hurt. Funny that your husband is a musician and neither of you have any inkling of basic copyright laws… You knew exactly what you were doing by using those images, you just never thought you’d get caught. Well, ya did. You claim to be a professional photographer, so grow up, be an adult about this. Admit what you did to any and all people this may have affected and start contacting the photographers whose work you stole.
            Oh and PS. I have numerous friends who are professional photographers, not only in WI but in cities such as Seattle and L.A., each of them has been in the industry for more than 5 years, they have NEVER used someone else’s image without the original’s photog’s permission which is clearly stated with the image along with the watermark.

  • Natashia

    I truly apologize to all I have wronged here. I had no idea. Thank you for answering my questions. I will certainly be studying copyright laws and the like for the future. Perhaps some of you experienced people could write up something informational on copyright/internet for naive people like me. I get it…yes I can Google. But reading on Google is what got my into this mess in the first place; seeing others do it, reading that it was okay, etc.

    • Jay Gough

      There are lots of links already existing to educate oneself about copyright laws. Part of being in the photography business is learning and utilizing those laws so you don’t run into situations like this. It’s not our job to do so….it’s yours.

      • Natashia

        I didn’t say it was your job. It just seems that you are all pretty knowledgable on the subject.

        • Jay Gough

          Because before most of us hung out our Open for business sign, we had a solid body of work, and ONLY displayed our own work. Copyright infringement was never an issue.

          • Natashia

            I thought I had a handle on copyrights. But the Pinterest thing was always a murky area, as photos are shared and credited on there, so I assumed anyone could do the same.

          • Jay Gough

            On Pinterest maybe….it is murky as you say…

            But these went on your blog. And you claimed credit for an article someone else wrote. That’s where the line gets way less murky.

          • Natashia

            I understand. Thank you.

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            Within the structure of Pinterest where the thumbnails are posted on there and the real content is linked to the actual source, perhaps. But to just take things off of there… no.

          • Bunny Kramer

            I’m a huge Pinterest fan myself. Pinning something includes a LINK that leads back the original. Where’s the murk?
            That’s completely different from COPYING an image and putting it on your own website giving the impression that you were the photographer.

          • Me, Myself and I

            There’s also the matter of False Advertising.

            As a PHOTOGRAPHY BUSINESS, the images on your site and in your marketing materials should 100% be yours.

            Can you imagine a baker buying a cake from a competitor to put in their window display? Obviously people passing by the display would assume that he made that cake … any reasonable person would so that practice would be considered duplicitous in court.

          • Marc W.

            This!

            What about going to a tattoo artist and seeing all these great [inspiration] tattoo designs on the wall. EEK

        • Marc W.

          Because as most Photography Businesses, business is most of what is part of running a business. Not just getting a camera and taking photos.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Remove every image, word, post that you didn’t create 100% yourself! Then get a lawyer & learn the laws.

      • Natashia

        Thank you. I will absolutely start reading and learning. I feel so incredibly terrible about all of this.

    • CarlaMillsPhoto
      • Natashia

        LOL..thanks. I get it.

    • Jay Gough

      Here’s a simple rule of thumb:

      If you took it, you can use it.
      If you wrote it, you can use it.

      If you didn’t do either. You can’t use it without the express permission of the creator.

      • Natashia

        Good rule. Thank you.

      • Marc W.

        She took them… from Pinterest.

        • Natashia

          Go ahead. Be an asshole. I hope it makes you feel good. I am trying to do everything possible to fix this

          • Marc W.

            Will waiting for this “Everything possible to fix this”.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            When you say you’re doing everything you can to fix this, what exactly are you saying?

            You are deleting EVERYTHING that you ever stole?

            You are apologizing to everyone you stole from? And I don’t mean apologize for getting caught either.

            You are pay back everyone you stole from?

            Or are you trying to ‘make this go away’ by any means possible even thought YOU brought all of this on yourself. A piece of advice, again, do not try to attack this site, the victims, etc. The evidence is crystal clear that YOU screwed up. The SEO for your name will live on forever. There is no way to make this go away. Forming an LLC and then later saying you can’t be a successful business because people here are being mean to you is also BS. Claiming FB is how you make money and that by having to remove those pages you have been harmed is also total BS! Natashia Nicole Photography | Wausau WI Wedding Photographer at 3502 Walleye Dr, Weston, WI 54476, (715) 581-8391, your pages had STOLEN CONTENT! Don’t try to play any games and threaten anyone. It will end up costing you money and become part of the record of how you dealt with this.

            http://natashianicolephotography.com
            https://www.facebook.com/wausauphotobooth

          • Melinda Potter

            I find it funny/strange that she thinks Marc is an asshole for suggesting people go ahead and do what she herself has done. I mean her whole defense is ignorance, yet she sees that Marc’s suggestion is an asshole suggestion that would violate her copyright and possibly hurt her business and/or clients. I would think that she would have said something more like “Go ahead I wouldn’t care. I see nothing wrong with using my work to help other photographers advertise/market themselves”. Maybe throw in a little “I’d be flattered and honored to have a fellow photographer use my work in this manner”. just for good measure. Instead she instinctually reacts thinking Marc is being an asshole…. but we are to believe she had only good intentions, and didn’t know better, and not think she’s an asshole with bad motives and intentions??

  • Natashia

    Should I write to the people whose photos I used and let them know? I guess I don’t know what I should be doing to rectify this?

    • Jay Gough

      Take them all down.

      Replace them with your own body of work.
      Write your own content. Take down whats not yours.

      That is easy enough. You should know what’s yours and what’s not.

      • Natashia

        I did that but I don’t know if there is something else I should do or not?

        • Marc W.

          Apologies publicly on your website and Facebook. Let your customers know that you duped them and offer refunds if they ask.

          • Natashia

            No one was “duped”. The post were only intended to be informational. I don’t keep a consistent blog so I had/have no idea what to post about. I just thought giving people ideas on things from Pinterest might be cool. Obviously not cool.

          • Marc W.
          • Natashia

            None of those sessions were done. Again, a Pinterest Mistake on my part. People know my work. Plus the image that was pulled from Pinterest had a very small watermark that should be visible on the image

          • Marc W.

            Stop blaming Pinterest. It’s like blaming Google for having image searches.

          • Natashia

            I’m not blaming Pinterest. That’d be like blaming Obama. I’m blaming my assumptions. I assumed I could use things from Pinterest because 1) I didn’t know any better and 2) I have seen a billion other people do it.

          • Marc W.

            Thanks Obama!

          • Natashia

            lol….dammit don’t make me laugh. I’m sitting here in tears. I feel like a bipolar basket case right now. But I do appreciate that for the most part everyone here has offered real insight into my mistakes. I am not above the law, I am not above what is right, and I am not above being human. I am going to do what I need to do to make this right. So thank you all for pointing out my errors and giving suggestions on how to correct them.

          • Marc W.

            What about a true public apology to your customers / potential customers?

          • Natashia

            I am working on writing that up as we speak.

          • You can’t fix stupid

            There is still no public apology 17 hours later. How long does it take to type “I am sorry – I stole photos and words that weren’t mine” see just under 3 seconds not 17 hours.

          • Marc W.

            Yeah, I read through those apologetic lies.

          • Savannah

            Where is my bingo card?? We have an Obama!

          • You can’t fix stupid

            It doesn’t make if they were done. You advertised it.

          • BDavis

            Original photog of the mini session photo here… I haven’t heard an apology or been contacted (except by you awesome folks who notified me!)

          • Marc W.

            Have you sent her an invoice for unauthorized use of your photo?

          • U Really That Dumb?

            BULL SHITE!
            Everyone that came to your page was duped! It’s called FRAUD and you committed it! Stop your lying and take down every page you own. Go to your attorney. Find out how much money you owe each and every person you stole from AND pay them every last cent! Also, return every penny you earned from everyone that used your services after you posted your first stolen image!
            Then and only then can you consider starting over.

          • getoverit

            I think you are a vindictive and angry person here to make people’s lives miserable. She has delivered thousands of images of her own work and made lots of happy clients. I refuse a refund from her because she did a fabulous job with my family photos

          • When you say thousands you mean several hundred .. and when you say happy clients you mean clients that are naive. Her life is now miserable well she committed a crime… soooo… ummmmm… yea moving on.

            No one is asking to refund her past or present clients we asking her to do right by those she stole from.

          • The only one to blame miserable life is herself..
            When you say she delivered thousands you mean a few hundred, when you say happy clients you actually mean naive clients.

            No one is telling her to refund money to her clients … just pay back or contact the original artists she stole from.

            If you are happy with her work stay happy.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Under WI law she is required to pay back all moneys collected along with damages that the JUDGE determines. So getoverit, you don’t have to take the money but if you don’t the state gets to keep it. Either way she’s not going to have it.

          • Marc W.

            I was wondering if anyone of her followers would come here.

            I did say in a comment that she should refund any $ to anyone who went to a session based on a stolen image or requested one after her apology.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Hang on to those images as they could possibly be the last ones she gets to take. Have you read WI law? She’s looking at jail.

            As for me being a miserable person. Nope! Not at all! I just hate liars, thiefs, frauds, and the people that come to their rescue without knowing all of the facts. Oh yeh, that would include you!

          • Helena

            You couldn’t be more wrong. URTD is neither vindictive or angry, just bored of people breaching copyright laws and lying about. Much like the rest of us. No one gives a crap that she delivered images. We care that she also stole. She needs to put on her big girl pants and face the consequences of that.

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            That’s your choice. But to suggest people shouldn’t care that she misrepresented herself and used content she did not have permission to use, then wasn’t truthful about it when confronted… well, that’s not something to just get over. People have a right to know.

            I don’t care about her actual work — it wouldn’t matter to me if she sucked or if she was a brilliant photographer. It doesn’t matter. What does matter is what is being addressed on this site. Copyright infringement is a very real issue, and there are laws against it. She can be sued and fined for a heck of a lot of money. If she’d taken something from you, I doubt you’d be so forgiving.

          • Boohoo

            Get on with your lives idiots! Way bigger issues in the world than some “stolen” photographs. You people are whiny crybabies that have nothing better to do than bitch about something so ridiculous. It’s almost comical. Morons!

          • Yea … I am just here holding my fun parts and eating vodka popcorn …

          • Melinda Potter

            I agree. There are way bigger issues in the world than shoddy unethical photography businesses. That would be why this blog isn’t entitled “Biggest news worthy stories of the world!” or something similar. It may be difficult for you to understand, so I will try to explain it to you as best and as simply as I can. This is a specail interest type topic. We all are photographers, so we find this an important topic of interest. Photographers do NOT steal from other creatives. Photographers are the creators of content, not purchasers or users of other people’s content. When theft like this happens we find it appalling. It’s just something that is never done. Or should I say… SHOULD never be done. But I do find it odd that YOU took the time to comment on a topic that you obviously have no interest in, just to insult the people that do have an interest in it. lol Now THAT I find funny. Do you often do this? Find forums and blog posts that have topics you think are silly and pointless and let the participators know how you feel by insulting them? What’s the point to that exactly? Just a time waster…or ?

          • Here4theparty

            Boohoo– apparently you don’t think taking someone else’s photos and reposting them as your own in considered stealing but it’s no different than a band taking another musician’s song and recording as their own. Not only is it illegal, it’s unethical. And it effects the original artist’s livelihood.

          • Helena

            It’s comical that you, one of her “clients”, comes here throwing around insults (and lame ones at that). What are you hoping to achieve other than making Natashia Nicole Photography look ever more shitty? Now we know the calibre of her clients. Not. That. Nice.

          • Me, Myself and I

            Editorial use IS covered under fair use in the US (and most other places) but you can’t just throw some pictures on a page and claim fair use.

            For it to be considered editorial in nature (critique or news reporting type of thing), you need to TALK about the photos. Just posting photos with a title isn’t editorial use. Now if on the other hand you started tlkaing about the technique used or doing an analysis of the photo or if you were talking about the photographer and were using that picture as an example of his work in you article about him … that PROBABLY would be covered by fair use.

            (Mileage may vary as laws change form place to place … I’m not a lawyer, check with a lawyer for any legal advice).

    • Helena

      Take them all down. Contact the original photographers and Missy. Apologise profusely and offer to pay for the unauthorised use of their images/words. Even after this, they can still choose to sue, so keep your fingers crossed they don’t.

  • Marc W.

    Surprise! She disabled reviews… awweeeeeee

    • Natashia

      Yes I did. It was an honest mistake that I am trying very hard to fix. People make mistakes. I only hope that I can be forgiven. Not everyone is out to be malicious.

      • raysot

        I think you’re confused between what’s a mistake and what’s a deliberate action. A mistake doesn’t somehow find other’s material and make it magically re-appear on one’s website.

        • Natashia

          The mistake was that I honestly didn’t know I couldn’t use things from Pinterest. I’ve seen it done a billion times and assumed. And I know I shouldn’t have assumed. I should have took the time to look into it. Hence the mistake.

          • KevinNewsome

            You found Missy’s post on Pinterest?

          • raysot

            How does that explain the text that was stolen from Missy Mwac?

          • Natashia

            That was answered in another post in this thread.

          • nobody

            Girl that is not the extent of your wrongdoing and even if it were, nobody’s buying it.

          • Clarice

            You honestly didn’t know you couldn’t use images created by other people’s hard work in order to promote your own business? You are not fooling anyone with your “mistake”. It was so convenient for you “assume”.

          • Helena

            Pinterest, Google, Flickr etc are not a free for all photo service. I’m sorry, but I don’t believe for one second that you thought everything on Pinterest was public domain and therefore free to use as you see fit. You just hoped you wouldn’t get caught.

    • You can’t fix stupid

      And I missed all of them. Did anybody get a screen shot?

  • Me, Myself and I

    If you’ve had your work stolen before then that means you have at least a basic understanding of copyright.

    You might also want to look into false advertising laws for your state.

    • Natashia

      Thank you. When I had something stolen it was a local. And it was an image I took that they claimed was theirs (I never claimed any of those images were mine). I just addressed it personally with them and that was that.

  • raysot

    Sadly, it’s front-page news now. 1st page, 4th result in Google. Kind of breaks my heart, knowing how much goes into building a business.

    Natashia Nicole Photography in Weston, Wisconsin | Stop …
    stopstealingphotos.com/natashia-nicole-photography-weston-wisconsin/
    3 hours ago – Natashia Nicole Photography in Weston, Wisconsin … While this first blog post says something about other photographers no credit was given …

    • Natashia

      It is sad. Ive worked my ass off and sacrificed so much time away from my daughter for this business. I have tried my best to do everything right; I pay my taxes, I am involved in my community, I do everything I can to be a decent person. I can’t believe that I made such a huge mistake

      • Amy

        I’m confused. How can you not believe you made the same mistake over and over again? I am so tired of photographers playing the stupid card. It doesn’t matter that you pay your taxes and what photos you took that were your own. And it’s sad that you spent so much time away from your daughter and felt it was okay to stoop to this level anyways. I hope you take a very long break from photography, reevaluate what you are willing to do in order to be successful and return with a more honest business ethic.

      • Melinda Potter

        You didn’t know that you would prefer the people who find your creative content and have an interest in using it in any way, to contact you, ask for permission, link to you and your business, and/or agree to compensate you in some way?
        You didn’t know that your photography takes lots of hard work, investment in both time and money, and that you own the copyright to every photograph you have taken?
        You didn’t know that your words are sometimes very difficult to write well enough to grab your readers and convey the message or feelings you set out to convey?
        Does business, creativity, and all that goes into a photography business, all just come easy to you, and that’s why you didn’t know these things? I mean, it is just pushing a button.
        Your work (or what I assume is yours) doesn’t come across as made by someone who is flippant about what they do, yet…. Here we all are. I just don’t understand your reasoning. You talk about the sacrifices you have made, yet, didn’t consider the original creators of the content you stole, or all that they put into it?
        You didn’t know you couldn’t use content you find on the Internet to promote yourself and your business?
        I think it’s more like…
        You didn’t know anyone would find out the short cuts you were making.

  • You can’t fix stupid

    How professional is it to ask people to vote for you? And still no public apology. I doubt we will ever see one.
    Natasha Nicole Photography in Weston, Wisconsin – please make a public apology.

    On your Facebook pages and blog – not in this forum as this isn’t your business page.

  • Dave Junion

    As a studio in the same town I am disappointed to see a ” photographer ” use images that were not her own to promote herself as something she is not. To make excuses about creating an advertisement and a campaign based on work that is not yours is disappointing, it is fraud, and it is theft. You have a choice…you let the community around town know that you have been using other photographers work to create the perception that is was yours, and apologize to the community or I will make sure the community is given a full understanding of what has transpired. My guess is that it would make a great local news story. Your choice.

  • “Didn’t know”?!? That’s hilarious!
    What I don’t understand is how these fauxtographers actually make a living. The difference between their website and actually output must be enormous. You think the market would take care of it.

    • Me, Myself and I

      One fauxtog goes down in flames and he/she is replaced by 3 more coming out of best buy with their new “professional” camera.

      I love how someone can be in business and not know the very basic laws involved in their industry.

      You need to be at least reasonable fluent in:
      – Copyright
      – Contract Law
      – Advertising Laws and Regulations
      – Tax Laws (income and sales)
      – Employment laws and regulations (in case you hire someone or contract out from time to time)

      And quite a few others to be in business.

      I’m not talking about being a lawyer but understanding such things as how copyright protects works, what you need to do in your advertising materials so the government doesn’t flatten you with fines.

      Just to give you an idea … in Canada they passed an anti-spam law.

      I now have to get explicit consent (not implied … EXPLICIT) to email potential clients and the burden proof for that consent is on ME. I also have to include my MAILING address as well as a “mailing list” removal link.

      If I don’t do these things, I could be fined up to 10 MILLION dollars.

      http://fightspam.gc.ca/eic/site/030.nsf/eng/home

      “Can anyone answer my questions? I though I did everything right and obviously I was way wrong. Can I not use images from Pinterest even if they are linked back to where I got them?”

      That right there tells me she didn’t even bother researching copyright law AT ALL.

      • Melinda Potter

        I’m not a portrait or event tog, but I can honestly say I knew nothing about copyright or any other laws pertaining to photography when I first started taking my photography more seriously. Nothing. Did this ever get me in any sort of trouble? No. All I knew was how I felt about my photographs. That right there is enough for me to never even think of using other artist’s work. I know what it feels like to have my pictures pinned on Pinterest, not by myself, my pictures blogged both correctly and incorrectly, and I know what it feels like to see one of my pictures being sold on some crappy mug or mouse pad.
        It’s just something I would never think of doing to someone else. Besides… What would be in it for me? How would using other people’s work, improve my own, or somehow make my photography better?? Of course… Like I said, I’m not a portrait/event tog. I’m not for hire, and money isn’t my driving force.

        • Me, Myself and I

          “I can honestly say I knew nothing about copyright or any other laws pertaining to photography when I first started taking my photography more seriously. Nothing. Did this ever get me in any sort of trouble? No.”

          That was a bit risky for you to do. You got lucky.

          Let’s just take the Canadian anti spam law I mentioned further down. A new photographer who just wakes up one morning and throws a wix site up wouldn’t necessarily know about this law and could suddenly find himself/herself being fined thousands of dollars for having harvested emails and sent promo material out without implicit consent.

          Or if you are a business in the Province of Quebec (again, Canada), your business HAS to, BY LAW, post its information in FRENCH FIRST AND FOREMOST or you can be SEVERELY fined.

          Maybe you won’t get caught but your business and, in the case of many new photographers who aren’t operating as an incorporated entity, their personal finances is at SIGNIFICANT risk.

          Just the anti-spam law on it’s own can go up to 10 MILLION dollars … now, the law is lenient on first offenders and the fines scale down apparently based on the situation but it is still a liability.

          Anyone looking to start any business at all (photography or otherwise) should read up on the laws or contact a business consultant or a lawyer. Doing it any other way is just begging for trouble.

          • Melinda Potter

            No risk of me infringing, or plagerizing if I always create my own content, and respect other people’s work as I would want mine respected. I never in a million would have thought that photographers would steal work from other photographers. I was so completely shocked the first time I ran into this sort of behavior. That’s why to me, even claiming ignorance just doesn’t fly. I was as ignorant as they come.

      • Justin Case

        “You need to be at least reasonable fluent in:”

        OR, do what many, many, many MANY businesses do: INVEST IN THE EXPERTISE OF OTHERS by hiring a: lawyer; accountant; financial adviser; business partner; etc.

        (Of course, then you wouldn’t be able to charge bargain prices since all these people charge ‘insanely high prices’ for their professional services. But of course you know this, since before discovering your ‘passion’ for photography, you were a registered accountant).

        • Photo Stealers

          Well, she’s hired a reputation defender to come after me, does that count?

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Does she realize that SHE destroyed her own reputation?

          • Helena

            A what now? (⊙_⊙)

          • Justin Case

            Shame. She is just throwing more money away. The best defense for a damaged reputation is to come clean, apologize publicly and be patient. As has already been said multiple times.

            Good behavior speaks much louder than all the excuses in the world. And that reputation defense advice is free.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            I’m sure she’s now thinking she gets what she pays for!

          • Me, Myself and I

            A reputation defender?

            What is he? A PR person, a lawyer?

            Only thing she could do is sue for libel but then she’d be laughed out of court since SHE ADMITTED that she was guilty of copyright violation and truth si a defence agianst libel (unless you are in Quebec).

            All she is doing is throwing money out the window now. she committed fraud, she violated several photographers copyright … and now she’s attacking you?

            As always, let us know if you start a defense fund or anything.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            NO! She’s going to sue for SLANDER! LOL

          • U Really That Dumb?

            I would love to see what she told them and how many lies that contains!
            I also wonder if they actually did any research or if they just took her word. AND, if they did any research, how accurate they were.

  • raysot

    I’ve searched and searched Wisconsin public records but can’t find any business license for Natashia Nicole… Interesting…

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Not surprising at all. Most aren’t.

    • Helena

      13 hours ago it was still the 29th there right?

      • U Really That Dumb?

        Wow! That’s a total waste of money considering she has gone down in flames and will likely never recover using that name after stealing from who she did! She truly is a gem! I doubt she realizes that a corporation doesn’t give you retroactive protection. She is still 100% liable and NOT she included the new business in that liability.

        • Marc W.

          HAHA. I wonder if she got a speeding ticket driving so fast to the office! (maybe she did it online, either way, HA!)

          • raysot

            Most states you can file online. The problem with an LLC is it’s somewhat complex to form… What type of LLC, what are your reporting guidelines, Who is it headed by… many questions….

          • Marc W.

            True, but if I ever do an LLC, I’d want to involve a lawyer to make sure I do it right.

      • raysot

        Yup! Sure was! I wonder if she’ll be smart enough to license herself in the city where she lives, unless it’s unincorporated.

        She’s learning the hard way I guess… too bad…

    • Jackee Reis

      I don’t have a business license, either, and I am from Wisconsin, but when I contacted my municipality and they said it wasn’t necessary.

      My accountant has also told me I don’t need a business license, so ….

      ?????

      I do however, pay taxes and have insurance. 🙂

      • Me, Myself and I

        Not being an ass here but how are you collecting and remitting sales tax without a business licence or registering with the government.

        Also, you might want to consider registering as a corporation for the protection it affords your personal finances.

        Talk to a lawyer.

        • Melinda Potter

          She could just be reporting hobby income? My Dad has a successful hobby. He has a state tax ID for state tax and files federally as well on his personal return, by filling out the hobby income paperwork. But, he also has a vender’s license. If I remember right, federally you file if you exceed $1000 (but PLEASE don’t quote me on that) and state by state it varies. But here in Michigan you collect and pay sales tax on all goods and services, and i believe any hobby income that exceeds $500…

          • Me, Myself and I

            But you still need to register … oh! I miss read her comment … she doesn;t have a registered BUSINESS but she might still be registered for sales tax … works slightly differently here in Canada,

            Thanks @jackeereis:disqus and @melinda_potter:disqus for the extra details.

        • Jackee Reis

          I am handing all income/payment materials over to my accountant.

          This is not the first business I’ve owned in the state of Wisconsin. I didn’t have to have a business license when I owned a nail salon in a larger city, either. (FTR, I paid quarterly with that business). Not because I was/am operating illegally, but because when I asked about them I was old, by ther perspective city government, that I did not need one.

          As for how I am currently taking care of my taxes and how my business is registered with the government (SP, LLC, etc.), that is MY business and that of my accountant’s.

          • Me, Myself and I

            Like I said, was not trying to be an ass, was cusrious. Things work differently in Canada so I was actually curious.

          • Melinda Potter

            Yeah, there wasn’t any need to get defensive. It’s a confusing subject to say the least and laws vary so much from area to area. I don’t think anyone was disagreeing with you or anything just curious.
            Seems anytime this subject gets brought up in forums or whatnot, things get heated and remain unanswered. I remember one time I innocently asked if I had my products dropped shipped from my lab, and they collected sales tax, I’m good, but am I ok to have my products shipped to me after paying sales tax on the products, and then turn around and sell the products to my customers? Or do I have to charge sales tax again on the product? All hell broke loose lol. I never really got my answer. It was crazy

          • Sssssssss

            “A seller’s permit is required for every individual, partnership, corporation, or other organization making retail sales, leases, or rentals of tangible personal property or taxable services in Wisconsin, unless all sales are exempt from sales or use tax.”

            http://www.revenue.wi.gov/faqs/pcs/seller.html#s1

            In WI, digital images are taxable items. Every photographer that is in business (not hobby) must have a Wisconsin Department of Revenue Seller’s Permit & Wisconsin Business Tax Registration Certificate.

      • Melinda Potter

        Correct me if I’m wrong, but…if you are paying taxes, you’re registered, business license or not. That registration would come up in a search, unlike the photostealer listed here. There was nothing. Considering how she ran her “business” and the thoughtlessness of it all. And how she rushed to become an LLC after being outed here, I highly doubt she was paying taxes or was insured or anything of the sort. To me, after looking around it seemed she was like many other people “in business” and shooting her friends and family, and just kind of pretending. It probably wasn’t necessary at all for her to become an LLC

  • You can’t fix stupid

    But clearing cookies and editing are way different things

    • Me, Myself and I

      TOTALLY different.

      I mean, updating your website with what seems to be a content management system designed to simplify the website update process (think Joomla or WordPress … all web form based and WYSIWYG) is way more complex than understanding the hidden, inner workings of web technologies like how sessions and cookies work.

      … uhmmm no wait … I think I got that wrong. :p

      • You can’t fix stupid

        But she might blame FB for this since she said that FB said she needed to make her personal page the same as her business page. That equals to being reported for running a business off a personal page.

  • Me, Myself and I

    Yeah, I noticed that too.
    It also speaks to her character that she is telling people to cheat on her behalf.

  • You can’t fix stupid

    Nope down and so is her page

  • Me, Myself and I

    She did? In the US, under the Digital Mellenium Copyright act, that is considered a violation of the provisions on Cricumvention of Rights Management Information and adds (on top of the normal statutory damages of up to 150000$ per infraction) another 2500$ to 25000$ per watermark removed.

  • U Really That Dumb?
    • You can’t fix stupid

      Didn’t she say that she had to make a new private page?

    • U Really That Dumb?

      She still has both pages. The one she locked down. That would make one believe that there is still stolen content.

  • It’s really hard to make it as a photographer. You make it harder. If you are really in business and making profit than you should know. Plus you think that great photos come so easily and that anyone can take it-hence why I believe you thought it was okay to just take photos from somewhere else. I am in Wisconsin and I really don’t appreciate what you have done and you saying things like:
    From your FAQ-Which this is your FIRST question-answer.

    I noticed that your prices are much lower than most area photographers? What’s the catch?

    Rest assured, there is no “catch”. Many photographers take advantage of people by charging insanely high prices simply because they can. I am not one of those photographers. I do value my work and I do create beautiful images, but I don’t feel that my clients should have to take out a second mortgage to pay for photos! Just because my prices are lower does not mean my work is not quality. I simply believe in honest pricing.

    I think the catch is you are not a good photographer but you want to be. Your pricing is not honest because you are NOT offering your clients the work you advertise and show.

    You are hurting all of the professional photographers in Wisconsin especially in your area who are really trying to make an HONEST living with HONEST art that they create.

    In your sample wedding the photos are so average and few.
    You have a lot of growing to do if you want to be a photographer but you just killed any respect you would have from other professionals in the area.

    Looking at the photos on your site your work is not that good at all.
    It’s so inconsistent and not very good.
    I am sure you will sink fast with your HONEST prices and less medicore work.

    • Me, Myself and I

      “Many photographers take advantage of people by charging insanely high prices simply because they can.”

      WTH!!! IS SHE FOR REAL!

      No we charge the prices we do because we have things like business costs and hard costs and want to pay ourselves more than minimum wage.

      I love having to explain to new “pro-photographers” that charging 500$ for a 10 hour wedding isn’t 50$ an hour but more like 0.34$ an hour once oyu factor in all the time worked, business costs, hard costs …

      Or that charging 30$ for a 60 minute on location just cost THEM probably 15$ to shoot (as in after they get paid they are 10$ POORER), never mind paying themselves for their time worked!

      They don’t consider things like travel costs (wear and tear on vehicle, gas … typically 0.55$ / KM), wear and tear on gear, making a disk (3-4$ on average with a nice case and label) …

      • raysot

        No kidding!

        I hate it when I hear photographers complain about others charging “INsanely High” prices. To someone in a minimum-wage job trying to also make it as a “photographer”, then yeah… $40 for an 8×10 IS insanely high.

        Best business lesson I learned was never charge what you can afford yourself.

        • Me, Myself and I

          I always go back to this video when I think of people like this.

          Or this one:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE

          • ALP

            My husband LOVES this.

        • Yea but that lesson has limits… Like eventually you will be able to afford your own prices and fall into a perpetual loop.
          Being able to afgprd something and wanting to by something is two diffrent things

          • raysot

            To a point.. I should have prefaced that by stating “When you first start out, be careful to……”

        • ALP

          I had a serious jerk go after me on a Facebook group recently and accuse me of milking my customers because I feel like I deserve a BMW while he’s happy to drive a Ford. For the record I drive a 10 year old Scion (which I love) and our prices are pretty much middle of the pack in our area. His top package is where we start and included probably $1000 worth of stuff.

          • Marc W.

            If your customers are willing to pay for it and are happy, who cares!?

      • Melinda Potter

        Darn you photographers who want to make a living with your camera and actually put thought into your costs of doing business, and your bottom line!

    • Helena

      One would think her prices are going to increase somewhat now she’s going to have to pay tax etc on her earnings, seeing as she’s an LLC as of YESTERDAY.

      • Marc W.

        At least we know she won’t be rebranding easily very soon!

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        So… she said she had been paying taxes on her business. How did she do that if she wasn’t legal until yesterday?

        • Me, Myself and I

          I don’t know about the states but here in Canada, if you don’t make over 30k in revenue a year you don’t need to register your business or collect and remit sales taxes.

          Of course you don;t get the nifty business deductions either so .. yeah.

          QUOTE
          Registering for the GST and QST

          You must register for and collect the GST and the QST if you are:

          a small supplier of goods and services with total worldwide taxable supplies (including sales, rentals, leases, exchanges, transfers, barter transactions, etc.) that exceed $30,000 in a given calendarquarter or in the four calendar quarters that precede the given calendar quarter

          END QUOTE
          Source: http://www.revenuquebec.ca/en/entreprise/taxes/tvq_tps/inscription/

          • U Really That Dumb?

            You also don’t get the legal protections you would as a licensed business.

          • Me, Myself and I

            I agree with you.

            Just pointing out that she might not have been doing business illegally by not being registered … well at least, if you ignore copyright violation and potentially false advertising laws. 🙂

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Oh, that little thing. It’s nothing really, I swear!
            Nothing to see here! Just walk away and leave me alone!

      • raysot

        WOW! Just…… wow…………

        Now, aside from State taxes which she now has to pay (But only if she’s getting any new business after this) I wonder if she has thought about filing for her City license? In Washington state, if you are in the Greater Seattle area, you also need a city business license (Everyone wants their cut!)

        • Celine (peaceetc)

          I think that depends on the state, and possibly the city. I’m fairly certain Oregon doesn’t have that (it’s been years since I last registered a business), but I wouldn’t know about Wisconsin.

  • U Really That Dumb?
  • Celine (peaceetc)

    This has all turned into a bit more than I was expecting when Photo Stealers first put this up. So can we recap? I may need help with this, as I may have missed some of the details. Feel free to correct me or add in something I’ve missed.

    1. Natashia used images which were not hers in a blog post. She has said in the comments below she did credit the photographers on the blog post, but Photo Stealers has screencaps to prove she did not. She appears to have added the names in after she was outed on here.

    2. She used others’ images in at least one advertisement for her photography business, thereby either attempting to or succeeding in make money off of someone else’s work. “U Really That Dumb” just posted an ad he found that seems to prove she’s still using others’ work in an ad for a fall mini.

    3. Her blog post with Missy Mwac’s work. The original was completely uncredited, and was prefaced with words indicating Natashia had come up with the list, and she had even modified a couple of things. She claimed in the comments below she meant to credit Missy, but couldn’t figure out how to modify the post. This does not explain why she wrote she came up with the list.

    4. Natashia has indeed apologized, but based on what I have seen, she still isn’t telling the truth, in my opinion. I appreciate her wanting to address this issue, but if she is going to do it, I suggest she do it properly. No half truths, no excuses, just deal with it.

    As others have said, Natashia, if you didn’t shoot it, don’t post it. If you didn’t write it, don’t post it. And for goodness sake, don’t use others’ images in ads for your own photography business. I cannot understand why that would even be a consideration. People should hire you on your actual work. The end. Nothing else. To do anything else is completely misleading, and not fair to anyone — you, your potential customers, and certainly not to the photographers from whom you stole. I would be seriously pissed if I’d hired a photographer, only to find out the images on their site and in their ads were not their own. There is simply no excuse for it. Ever.

    • Christopher C.

      On point #1, credit or not she still duplicated copyrighted material without permission. She can stamp the photographers’ names all she wants, she’s still breaking the law. 🙂

      • Helena

        It’s just a summary of the arsehattery. Natashia has been told again and again that credit =/= permission.

        • Christopher C.

          Fair enough, though I think this point should be included in the summary (which is why I posted it). I’m well aware it’s already been mentioned previously.

          Thanks.

          • Marc W.

            Are you a redditor?

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        Right, what Helena said. 🙂

      • Marc W.

        Welcome to two days ago.

        • U Really That Dumb?

          Bwaaahaaaahaaaahaaa!

  • I wonder if her second shooter has a FB or blog site..I am sure she is distancing herself like crazy..

    • There was an “Allison” I think.. listed on her “About” page..

      • U Really That Dumb?

        Daughter? SIL? Sister?

  • Justin Case

    Natashia, you mention several times that you used images from Pinterest because you saw other people do it and assumed that it was OK.

    I would be really interested in seeing how other people used those images. I would also happily send out some emails if those images were being used improperly, or even report those people’s sites here. But my guess is that they were not using the images they found to advertise their own photography business.

    Pinterest is not very clear on the rules regarding how copyright works. In fact, they pass off responsibility to the user. So whether you read their TOS or not, you are legally liable for any misuse of their site or the content on it. And THAT is very clear when you sign up.

    Your website says you are an accountant by trade and a full-time photographer. I assume that accountants need some kind of accreditation and knowledge of related laws before they set up a business, so why would you think a full-time professional photographer should be allowed to set up shop without the proper understanding of copyright or advertising?

    I understand that you probably feel that this is a lot of harsh criticism for what you see as an honest mistake. It is not. Your laziness is disrespectful to not just the creative people you took from, but to all those who are trying to make a living with creative work in an overly-crowed, ultra-competitive field. And your excuse-by-implication that ‘everyone does it’ is toxic.

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      Well, considering Helena found Natashia just registered her business yesterday… not so much with the proper understanding of things. Its interesting how she’s running around, trying to actually do the things she said she was already doing.

    • Here4theparty

      LOL! Tasha is not an accountant, nor was she ever!

  • U Really That Dumb?
    • You can’t fix stupid

      It’s gone or she has blocked me

      • U Really That Dumb?

        Gone

        • You can’t fix stupid

          And her other FB page – seems either she blocked me or it has gone

  • doncalifornia

    “Many photographers take advantage of people by charging insanely high
    prices simply because they can.”

    Oh Heavens to Murgatroyd…

    • raysot

      You could actually re-word that…

      “”Many photographers take advantage of people by stealing from other photographers simply because they can.”

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Natashia Nicole Photography | Wausau WI Wedding Photographer
    Has lied to clients, stolen from photographers and authors! The proof is there in full color! She can’t run away from this. Especially thinking she can quickly form a LLC and then claim she’s been doing it legally all along.
    3502 Walleye Dr, Weston, WI 54476
    (715) 581-8391
    http://natashianicolephotography.com/

    https://www.facebook.com/boudoirbynatashianicole

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Natashia,
      A little piece of advice. Don’t do anything you will regret later. Ex: Trying to play games. Thinking you can take on Photo Stealers, Missy MWAC, and real professional photographers. Trying to hide your theft. Trying to scrub your history.

      All of those things will not only cost you money, but have already proven pointless.

      Stop all of the games. Apologize publicly to everyone. Apologize to everyone you stole from. Ask them how much you owe them. Whatever that amount, PAY IT IMMEDIATELY!

  • Marc W.

    The photographer who took the photo she’s using on the Winter Wonderland card said she has NOT contacted them about her using their photo.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Nope, not shocked about that in the least.

  • Heather

    I found this interesting: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1SFXN_enUS503US503&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=natashia+nicole+photography&lrd=0x880028ad608f96e3:0xcd52a796048e3010,1….That’s her husband and he’s raving over her photographing their daughter. Seems a little misleading in my eyes. The boudoir page is down now too and the only pictures on the ‘business’ page are of her and him (the wedding one). Looking through her website, it looks like there are several others that are stolen too. They don’t look like anything around here and I never saw them pop up on her Facebook page throughout this year. Her photo booth page is still live though: https://www.facebook.com/wausauphotobooth

  • Minne

    Some people on this site really don’t do homework which is disappointing considering the homework that goes into even having this page.

    I’m really disappointed in some of the comments.

    I’ve worked in WI MI and MN a close family friend is an IRS agent and there’s several accountants in my circle as well. You do not need any license for most retail operations in Wisconsin. You register for sales tax only and you pay that. Now simple tax law saws LLC is not required sole propietorship has always been and will remain an option. While many people in many areas don’t use it for various reasons and there’s some good articles on why LLC is often pretty pointless (as in that liability protection everyone touts is voided if you didn’t put LLC on everything all the time).
    Do some quick looking into the area this woman is from. It’s not civilization in the least. Related news online shows in the last yr is the first the town next to her has even started licensing and inspecting residential home rentals. Are you kidding me this place has never even heard of HUD? That’s not my area but I assumed that was a state or federal thing guess not. Her Weston is even smaller and has less ordinances (looks like people there can burn their garbage at home? Uhm ok is it 1934 still?)

    My point is stay on topic people, she stole pics and plagerized. If you say crap that isn’t true or on task then you’re giving her recourse against everything said. Best bet she just LLC d up because if lawsuits are coming that’s a safer place theoretically than sole proprietor.

    Can someone link that btw? Curious where this back woods place has same day listings of business registration. I’ve got this for their county courthouse which doesn’t seem to have a clue about any business registrations 715-261-1300.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Apparently you didn’t do you research. Or basic reading for that matter. The picture of her new registration is below.
      As for forming an LLC: Using fraudulently obtained funds makes the LLC illegal. Furthermore, the LLC only protects you from the date of formation, not retroactively.
      That said, I have to ask, if these are such small towns, do you know her? Related to you? Neighbor?

    • raysot

      I can’t imagine a universe where’s it fine to run a business without some sort of official tax formation.

      • Me, Myself and I

        Canada > Quebec

        QUOTE

        Registering for the GST and QST

        You must register for and collect the GST and the QST if you are:

        a small supplier of goods and services with total worldwide taxable supplies (including sales, rentals, leases, exchanges, transfers, barter transactions, etc.) that exceed $30,000 in a given calendarquarter or in the four calendar quarters that precede the given calendar quarter


        END QUOTE

        Source: http://www.revenuquebec.ca/en/entreprise/taxes/tvq_tps/inscription/

    • Dave Junion

      Smile…you should be kinder in your descriptions of where people live…This is my hometown. It is one of many small towns centered around Wausau with a metro area population of about 60,000. Small by big city standards….but still fun size……as you ask for respect…please show respect.

    • Phoxy_Photog

      I’m in WI as well. No, you don’t need a business license or need to be an LLC. You have to be registered with a state tax id number and get relevant permits (sales tax and seller’s permits). I’m a sole prop with necessary permits as well as a WI tax ID and an EIN (the EIN is optional, however I needed it to open a business bank account.)

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Her photo booth page has content that doesn’t belong to her! It also links to their other company. Why would you link the two together if you weren’t going after the SEO?

    http://wausauphotobooth.com/our-booth/

    http://bldraftinganddesign.com/
    I wonder if that business is using images they didn’t take and don’t have permission to use.

  • You can’t fix stupid

    According to her FB page she didn’t steal !! Now I am really shocked – nah just kidding trick or treat

    https://www.facebook.com/wausauphotobooth/posts/383460351805774

    (refresh for image)

    • Me, Myself and I

      Too bad she admitted to stealing images in the comments here. :p

      • You can’t fix stupid

        And now she has removed this as well (or blocked me) LOL

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Many of the images from the BL Drafting & Design page can be found: http://www.precisionglasswi.com/?page_id=249

  • Maybe a good time to make a donation to PS?

    • U Really That Dumb?

      It is ALWAYS a good time to donate to PS!

  • U Really That Dumb?

    It’s called hypocrisy. It’s also called intimidating and harassing the competition to get either make her feel better about her illegal actions or try to get them to falter and fold.

  • Photo Stealers

    Here’s the letter that my web host received and forwarded to me.

    Cyber Investigation Services LLC is a Florida Private Investigation Firm A1000310.

    Internet Defamation & Brand Division

    4516 Highway 20 East, #220

    Niceville, FL 32578

    October 30, 2014

    I am working with Natashia Nicole on this issue related to photographs on her website that you then addressed on your website at http://stopstealingphotos.com/natashia-nicole-photography-westonwisconsin/.

    Let me first state that I appreciate what you are doing on your website. Since our company handles over 4,000 requests per year of people doing illegal acts against companies and professionals, I can appreciate what you are doing on your site.

    To address the issues that you raised, Natashia and our company are working diligently to make sure that if anything is not appropriate on her website, that we immediately correct. Since Natashia really is not familiar with what can, and cannot be done on the internet, she brought us in to make sure that everything is done to bring her in compliance.

    Based upon our investigation of her website, public and privately behind the scenes, as well as her Google Analytics account, I can confidently state that while a couple of in advertent mistakes were made, there is certainly nothing malicious in intent. Unfortunately, the consequences to her business have been over the top.

    Let me explain what we have found so far:

    1) The pictures were used in a blog post and no attempt was made to lead readers believe that the pictures came from her. Natashia intentionally left on watermarks and links to Pinterest for the images thinking that this would give proper credit. She now understands that this was not sufficient and for that, she is truly sorry. Those have been removed.

    2) We have reviewed the rest of the website and found no other circumstances of images that are not hers being inappropriately used.

    3) You referenced a pumpkin picture in her ads. Yes, that is not her picture but that picture was legally obtained. While we understand that some of your commenters believe that is “misleading”, stock photography is used everywhere and nothing is wrong with that. We have consulted the leading internet attorney in this issue and he has advised us of the same. He handles false advertising issues on the internet and has zero issues with this.

    4) We do understand that there was a couple of sentences of material that were copyrighted to someone else that were posted on Oct. 19. Natashia realized that she had not credited that work on the same day and made that correction. With that credit, what Natashia did was acceptable but she has removed those to avoid any further confusion.

    5) We also reviewed her Google analytics logs to see if there was substantial traffic that had viewed these web pages in question. Prior to yesterday’s article on your website, there was a grand total of 3 visitors so very few people have been exposed.

    What we have also found is that the commenters on your website have a bit of a vigilante flavor to them. Our client is just getting bombarded with emails and social media posts even though she has tried, to the best of her ability, to apologize on the site. Unfortunately, that just seems to bring on further bashing.

    I am sure as photographers, they are sick and tired of their stuff being stolen hence it is understandable. However, some of the lasting damage they are causing, both on your site and in social media feels a bit disproportionate for what was actually done.

    Frankly, their actions are putting the future of this business, and its employees, in complete jeopardy. It has caused the business to shut down their Facebook account due to harassment, threats, etc. It is completely out of hand and since 80% of the businesses revenues come from Facebook, this issue will very rapidly cause financial problems.

    Also, I have looked and because of the popularity of your website, all of this material comes up front and center on a search of her business name. This will also make it nearly impossible for this business and employees to survive going forward.

    At your earliest convenience, I would like to discuss ways that might bring about a resolution to this crisis.

    Chris Anderson, Ph.D.

    Co-Founder, Cyber Investigation Services, LLC

    http://www.cyberinvestigationservices.com

    (850) 279-6595

    • Photo Stealers

      My reply:

      Chris,

      I received your email about Natashia and I’m afraid that she’s not been truthful with you.

      1). The watermark was left on ONE image, no links or credit was given for the images presented in the “inspirational” blog post until after the Photo Stealers listing went live. She mentioned in the blurb above the images that they were inspirational but also added in the midst of the images that one should contact her if they wanted stylized engagement images like the ones seen. When she did go in and add in credit she did not link back to the original source but just added the text of the original photographers names.

      2). She’s used multiple images in ads on her Facebook that were not hers. We’ll get to the photobooth and pumpkin images below but the image from the Christmas ad is not hers nor did the photographer grant her permission. I’ve been in contact with the original photographer and, as you can imagine, they are not happy with this ad which prominently displayed Natashia Nicole Photography across the image and in the text.

      3). Regarding the stock image use of the pumpkins and the photo booth images: it all depends on the TOS from the agency which she bought the images from. Many agencies will not allow use of stock imagery in this manner. That of course is providing she went through the process of obtaining the images to use legally by purchasing them via a stock agency and not saving the image from Pinterest or Google Images.

      4). She did not credit Missy MWAC and it was much more than a couple sentences. The credit, again, was added after she was outed on Photo Stealers. Feel free to see the screen capture I have attached or use Google Cache to back this claim up.

      5). It doesn’t matter if 3 of 300 people saw the stolen images and text on her Facebook and website – the fact is that she had them there and was using others work to promote her business.

      This isn’t the first time she’s done this. Google Cache shows she’s posted at least one other blog in the past with plagiarized content.

      I respect what you are trying to do but it is her own fault she is in this predicament. Not only am I an advocate for photographers but also for clients that hire photographers. Plenty of photographers have gone on to continue with their careers after being outed on Photo Stealers, I am sure Natashia will as well.

      Thank you,

      Photo Stealers

      • You can’t fix stupid

        What about the comments where she admitted that she stole? Or did she forget about that?

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Wow, I’m guessing either she lied to him or his investigative skills suck! Perhaps he should take some lessons from the Investigooglers here!

      • U Really That Dumb?

        Or worse, he promises that he can get results, takes her money, doesn’t do anything but send an email, and then tells her he tried.

        Which is it Chris Anderson, Ph.D.?
        Co-Founder, Cyber Investigation Services, LLC
        http://www.cyberinvestigationservices...
        (850) 279-6595

    • Christopher C.

      “We have consulted the leading internet attorney”

      That’s AMAZING! I wasn’t aware the Internet had a leading attorney! Who’s the runner-up?

      I wouldn’t have replied at all. Considering this Chris Anderson guy isn’t an attorney himself, you have no obligation to reply or discuss jack shit with him. I would (politely) tell him to “get bent” and have that leading internet attorney contact you himself if there’s something that needs doing.

      • U Really That Dumb?

        Even if he were an attorney there is no obligation to respond to an email.

      • Me, Myself and I

        I’ve always been a bit ambivalent with this.

        That’s the point of stock images after all but as a photographer advertising photographic services it is 100% reasonabel for the average joe to assume that the images the photographer uses are his/her own … it makes no sense that a photographer would buy another photographers work to advertise their own services.

        I go back to my cake example from earlier.

        If you pass in front of a bakery and they have a cake in the dispay you will automoatically assume that they made that cake … not that they went to the compettiton and bought one of their to use in their display … if, then you ask fro that cake and the baker isn;t able to make it to the same level it was FALSE ADVERTISING!

        On my own website I have ONE photo that isn;t mine. Afghan Girl by Steve McCurry and that’s because I am talking about that picture and, in accordance with Canadian law, I have properly attributed the image.

    • I am just tickled with atticipation to see his response…but i dont think we will 🙁

    • captain-confuzzled

      yep, this makes sense “Frankly, their actions are putting the future of this business, and its employees, in complete jeopardy.” yet “there was a grand total of 3 visitors so very few people have been exposed.” Employees? really? with 3 visitors? I want to run a successful company like that.

      • Here4theparty

        There are no employees besides herself. I find it hard to believe she had no idea her actions were illegal, her father is a police officer in Wausau!

        • U Really That Dumb?

          Then I’m guessing he will be disappointed that his little girl is a fraud, liar, and thief that is now trying to intimidate people by hiring a firm that she either lied to or doesn’t know what they are doing when it comes to investigations.

    • Bart

      Does anyone else find the wording on this less than professional sounding? Something about it does not seem right. It sounds like someone TRYING to sound like a professional. I’m not saying Natashia & Co. wrote it, but it might be a pay for service? As in, someone pays $20 for them to send a letter? I don’t know, it just doesn’t sound right… Second paragraph in he repeats himself, “..website, that we immediately correct.”, then 4th paragraph “website, public and privately behind the scenes.” Shouldn’t this be “Publicly”, His point #3 – I’m not getting that one, “leading internet attorney” “stock photography is used everywhere and nothing is wrong with that” (insert startled face at that comment!)

      The whole letter bothers me. (Beside the whole siding with a thief!)

      • Me, Myself and I

        The only leading attorney I would trust on this issue would be Carolye Wright or one of her group. She SPECILISES in PHOTOGRAPHIC COPYRIGHT law.

        • Melinda Potter

          just thought I’d go ahead and add her link here http://www.photoattorney.com for those who are interested, and have a hard time using google

    • Me, Myself and I

      Pretty funny … I’m now getting Ad Sense ads for them on your site,

      • U Really That Dumb?

        I keep getting vote for Scott Walker.

    • Marc W.

      Wait, if this was an official letter, wouldn’t full names be used?

      • You can’t fix stupid

        What? YOu can’t ask questions like like. Don’t you know that they think we are all dumb? What idiots as if we hadn’t heard this before.

    • Factitious_Detector

      This entire “business” if legit, sounds very scammish to me. More like someone who you pay to write threatening letters under threatening titles in the hopes it would scare the target of the client from removing material…. which is basically all this “Chris Anderson Ph.D” could actually hope to do.

      • Factitious_Detector

        Oh here is Chris! And in the article, it still doesn’t exactly say what Chris’ business actually DOES for all of your money, other then “investigate” which he is only half-assed at apparently, and write emails, which he sucks at as well.

        Clever though. It SOUNDS like he’s actually DOING something, and for those who aren’t internet or InvestiGoogle savvy, I can see why people buy into it, but really he’s doing next to nothing. For instance, in the article he references a doctor he “helped”…. but yet there is nothing on this doctor, or what he actually DID to help him.

        I call bullshit! Or Bullshite!

        http://www.forbes.com/sites/cherylsnappconner/2013/12/09/protecting-your-online-reputation-3-key-tasks-your-business-must-complete-in-2014/

        • Factitious_Detector

          Seems like everything that happens, he is nothing more than an “advisor” for, claims to have “handled” 10,000 cases, yet can’t provide any evidence as to any form of case resolution, and I can’t find any of these “10,000” cases writing on their blogs or sites about how wonderful he is….. interesting.

          So basically he threw together some obvious tactics for those with any sort of internet savvy, and knows how to do basic InvestiGoogling, and has made a career out of it.

          Clever.

          I wonder how much she paid for this poorly written email, and ten minutes of his time, in which he apparently didn’t even read the evidence LAID OUT FOR HIM on the PS site.

          • Me, Myself and I

            His job isn’t to prove she was innocent of any wrongdoing … his job is to scrub that proof off the internet so no one is the wiser.

            As for cost? From an interview he did with Forbes:

            “At CIS we only accept cases that are serious and need professional help to prove their case civilly or criminally. Most cases require a minimum retainer of $2,500. Once on retainer, our job is to investigate the case and develop the evidence that is required by law enforcement, attorneys and civil proceedings to give you the leverage you need. If you have to make the harassment or stalking stop, then we have proven solutions to assist you.”

            So he’s taken at least 2500$ from this woman.

          • Melinda Potter

            I doubt people that needed their wrong doings scrubbed from the internet are going to give any reviews to the company that helped them make their wrong doings disappear. “I misrepresented my products and services, and practiced my business completely under the table, unlicensed and uninsured, to help cut my costs so I could in turn pass that discount onto my unsuspecting clients and friends. People found out about my misrepresentation and short cuts that I took from others that are in the industry legitimately, and I couldn’t make them stop talking about it so I could continue on with my business. My social media and online presence got ruined by my interactions with people who questioned me about my illegitimate business. Chris Anderson Ph.D of Cyber Investigation Services LLC helped me make it all go away, and now my SEO remains unharmed. I’m back in “business” thanks to CIS”. Yeah…I’m thinking his clients would rather not let people know that they were his clients

    • Me, Myself and I

      “Unfortunately, the consequences to her business have been over the top.”

      Actually, the consequences for her business should be a big fat lawsuit at the tune of 150000$ per image and another 2500$ to 25000$ per watermark removed … would that be better?

  • What the …

    Funny that someone who is sooo sorry and made an honest mistake would a: change her name on her profile and b: post graphics like the attached publicly on that same page! Clearly, we are all just haters jealous of her…..ummm ability to steal photographs and words from others???

    • Helena

      This graphic? She was full of crap from the start. She knew full well what she’d done, she just played dumb. The only thing she’s sorry about is getting caught.

  • Here4theparty

    Dave Junion is one of the best photographers in that area. Tasha is not a professional photographer, many of her “”clients” are friends and family..

  • Here4theparty

    I’m guessing she bought her own dress and accessories through Elegant Occasions and because she gave them business they have promoted hers, I can think of plenty of other wedding photographers in the area whose work is far more superior to Tasha’s that deserve the promotion before her…

  • You can’t fix stupid

    Guessing a friend or family?

  • U Really That Dumb?
    • You can’t fix stupid

      Wedding Wire http://www.weddingwire.com/reviews/natashia-nicole-photography-weston/1a96683030427a2f.html They have a twitter and a FB page you can post on. I wonder if they will let a known thief carry on advertising on their site?

    • Boohoo

      Get over it scumbags!

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        Well, aren’t you sweet! A word of advice, Amy — you aren’t going to win any arguments by coming in here and calling people names. You just make yourself look like immature, and you aren’t doing Natashia any favors. If you would like to discuss the issue like an adult, please let us know.

        • Boohoo

          As a moderator, you should reserve anonymity. See, this site is a joke.

          • I am a mod and i have no anonymity …. now what?

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            If I’d really wanted to out you, I would have used your full name. I used your first name (a very common name, at that) intentionally. You’ve come in here, acting like a child, calling people names, and all the while hiding behind a fake name. I had hoped you could be a little more civilized, but I guess I was wrong.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            If this site were a joke, WHY would so many news organizations quote it? Why do people win cases based on information researched here? Why are you here?
            Wait, that last one is easy. You friend is a liar, thief, and fraud.
            Are you aware that she wasn’t a LLC before getting outed here? Do you know that should something have happened while she was taking pictures of you and your family her insurance would likely have voided her policy? Why you ask? Two reasons. 1) IF she had insurance through her homeowners and they found out she was claiming to be a professional, they would have said nope, not gonna happen. IF she had a business policy without being an LLC they could say the same thing. 2) By committing the fraud and theft she likely made any policy null and void.
            What does this all mean to you? Had something happened to one of your kids, YOU would be shit out of luck in collecting from insurance and an ever harder time collecting from her personally.

            So yeh, consider this site a joke if you want, but YOU better wake up and realize your ‘friend’ is no better than the crack dealer on the corner. Both did illegal things and could end up in jail depending on the circumstances.

        • boohoo

          Observe

      • PSA: Flagging a post is pointless

        • Boohoo

          Exactly! That was my point. Let me make this simpler for you. THIS SITE = JOKE!

          • ummmm did you get your feelings hurt?
            We will not honor flagging of posts unless someone goes over the line … and as of yet no one has.

            For such a jokey site it seems to keep your attention.

          • We know you are a former/current customer of “Natashia Nicole Photography” and maybe a friend of hers. Cool you want to protect her … but to do that you need to talk to her as a friend that got caught committing a crime. Yes copyright infringement and fraud is a actual crime …. how about that.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            WOW!
            CRI!

            Amy, you are a special kind of crazy thinking you are doing your friend any good whatsoever. You are adding to her SEO and the permanence of her fraud and theft in perpetuity.

          • You can’t fix stupid

            Oh Amy get a life! This is site is a joke to those who steal photos. The lawyers (and yes there have been cases where the original artists have successfully sued the thief and won using information from this site) love this site and don’t think that it is a joke. Run back to Natashia Nicole and tell her to get her head out of her arse, apologize on her FB page, website and all and don’t even think about rebranding as we will know. It is easy to look up your name on FB Amy – especially since you are a friend of Natashia Nicole , who was caught stealing,

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            I get it. You are angry on behalf of your friend. But you seem to fail to realize what your friend did was wrong. There are real victims of her actions — those from whom she stole, and those she mislead by presenting those words and photos as her own. Copyright infringement is illegal for a reason, Amy. Those who made the laws regarding this didn’t think it was a joke, and you wouldn’t either if someone stole something from you.

            So I suggest you grow up and start acting like an adult. Natashia might be a perfectly nice person to you, but that doesn’t mean people should look the other way when she does something wrong.

          • Helena

            Amy, bore off. You’re not helping. You’re just making your friend look much much worse. Why would you want to do that?!

  • U Really That Dumb?
    • Marc W.

      I love directory browsing.

    • I have a feeling she will rebrand.

      • Helena

        Absolutely! I bet she’s already contemplating the name change.

        • U Really That Dumb?

          Too bad she just spent all of that money on a LLC and with the PI getting her name cleared.

      • captain-confuzzled

        well, heck she still has the sugarbabebeauty domain she can use. I vote for that name.

        • doncalifornia

          Dang, I wanted sugarbabebeauty.com

  • I am assuming that Natashia is a paying customer of Cyber Investigation. So it doesn’t surprise me that this letter sounds a bit biased. Would Cyber Investigation’s letter be written differently, if it would have been one of the photographers who work was stolen, had hired them?

    • For $2500 minimum they need to do a better job

      Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      I just can’t get over how unprofessional the letter from CIS is. Bias aside, it’s just not very well written. They “consulted the leading internet attorney in this issue” — what does that even mean? Who does that even mean?

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Natashia,

    You may have been scammed. A little research on your PI shows he’s not likely what he claims to be. He’s also not a licensed PI. His brother is.

    Christopher Anderson of http://www.cyberinvestigationservices.com/internet-law-attorneys/dr-anderson/

    “Dr. Anderson holds a B.S. and an M.S. in Engineering Science from the University of Florida, and a Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering from North Carolina State University. He is the author of 16 reviewed papers, 18 conference presentations, and 4 patents.”

    Why is it we can’t find any information related to your Doctorate? Where is your Dissertation? Thesis? Diploma?

    Why don’t they list your name anywhere on their page or as alum? I would think that they would want to tout you.

    http://www.alumni.ncsu.edu/s/1209/interior-hybrid.aspx?sid=1209&gid=1&page_id=253&pgid=253&cid=645&ecid=654&search=Christopher%20Anderson

    Where are your four patents?

    Why is there no paper trail of your cases? I would think that you would have something to prove you did all of the things you claim.

    Cyber Investigation Services LLC is a Florida Private Investigation Firm A1000310.
    Internet Defamation & Brand Division
    4516 Highway 20 East, #220
    Niceville, FL 32578

    • brooklynandme

      Is Bruce Anderson the brother you’re referring to? I only googled for a minute but couldn’t find any info on their relationship but I think it’s safe to assume. It seems like Christopher is just a relative with no relevant credentials who works for the company.

      It looks like Bruce Anderson used to (or still does) work for a company called Rexxfield Cyber Investigation Services, which has a few negative reports against them…surprise, surprise 😉 the amount of money the reporters were asked for is ridiculous. If Natashia paid that kind of money, she should’ve researched before hiring these guys. I literally googled for a minute and found questionable stuff. Their ripoff report: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/rexxfield-cyber-investigation-services-Michael-Roberts-Bruce-Anderson-/Florida/rexxfield-cyber-investigation-services-Michael-Roberts-Bruce-Anderson-online-defamatio-1119175

      Fox News also did a report on the Rexxfield company’s suspicious acts: http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/01/20/google-cide-online-reputation-managers-can-wipe-from-web/

      • Melinda Potter

        Hmmmmmmm interesting

        • Factitious_Detector

          I wonder what happens when Nicole contacts him, tells him his poorly written email did shiteall, if he asks for more money. Probably to write more emails.

      • Marc W.

        Wait, I thought CIS can remove ANY online bad reviews? So why is that Ripoff report still there?

        • U Really That Dumb?

          There you go again pointing out obvious holes in his scam.
          C’Mon, they guy doesn’t even have a response to the evidence against his client much less the evidence against him.

          • Marc W.

            I guess their scare tactics didn’t work on RipOffReport.

          • Anit that funny…. Then again RipoffReport charges $2500 to remove it.
            Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

          • Me, Myself and I

            Actually they charge 2500$ to REVIEW AND COMMENT on the report … it NEVER gets deleted … EVER!

            Even if the person who wrote the report asked to have it removed it would STILL REMAIN THERE.

            Check out their FAQs.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            But but but… He’s so tough and can take down anyone!

        • Me, Myself and I

          Guys, can we please refer to RoR as “The-site-that-shall-not-be-named” … I’d rather not help their SEO, they game the system enough as it is. :p

          But yeah … hard to say you’ll get anything off the web when you can;t even get bad reviews of your own stuff off there. 🙂

          Also, I wonder if he’d send fox news or msnbc or even just PetaPixel or Fstoppers a letter like the one PS received. Doubt it …

          • Marc W.

            Sorry.

    • captain-confuzzled

      to be fair, I did find a couple of patents for him – 3 actually, at the time he listed on Linkedin and the company he worked for. Of course, they are patents related to his electrical engineering work in light, optics and components, so not really sure why they are mentioned as qualifications as an investigator.

      • U Really That Dumb?

        Want to bet they belong to this Christopher?
        http://anderson.lbl.gov/index.php

      • Factitious_Detector

        My father is also an engineer, and he has several joint patents under his name. If you are an engineer and work on any projects for a company and develop something that they hire you to do, usually your name appears on the later patent.

        It’s NOT a big deal.

    • Melinda Potter

      So what you’re saying is Natashia Nicole Photography of Weston Wisconson hired a company that misrepresented their credentials, what they do, and what they are capable of, to try to get this post about her business’s misrepresentation taken down?

  • CkOne

    Let me use this analogy. I go to a bakery and tell them i wan to buy a special cake. now they bring out a book and show me a bunch of photos of different cakes. and because they are showing me the photos i assume that they can make any cake they show up. i pick a fancy one, give them the day I need the cake and then pay them. when i come to pick up the cake i find that it doesn’t look like the one in the photo. when i asked why it doesn’t look like the one in the photo they tell me that they never made that cake, the photo was just for “inspiration” and that they could do something similar. in my mind, i wanted exactly what i saw. This will not do. but the party is today and i have no choice but to settle for this cake because is either have this cake or no cake at all… and that is what you do to people when you put photos that are not yours. Now you may have not meant to mislead people but let’s be honest: if your job is to take photos and you post photos on your site people are going to assume that you took those photos UNLESS YOU TELL THEM OTHERWISE. it is not that big of a stretch for them to come to that conclusion.

    • Helena

      Yeah, just look at cake wrecks to get an idea of how well that works out.

    • Me, Myself and I

      I used that EXACT SAME analogy yesterday in this post. 🙂

      Someone else mentioned Tattoos … oh, your tattoo doesn’t look like the picture? That was just “inspiration”. Uhm, what are you doing with my spleen in your hand?

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Oh snap! Do we want to hold a raffle on who it is? You get to pick one thief that no one before you has picked. The winner gets bragging rights until the next thief pulls something like this, or for one year, whichever is longer. Wait, that’s a no brainer!

  • Helena

    Sorry some douche hijacked your domain. Your response is priceless though, so thank you for posting. 😀

  • Andrea

    I have used Natshia as my wedding photographer and she is great! Whatever this page is that is ripping on her is stupid and her work speaks for its self. I recommend her to anyone looking for a great photographer at a reasonable price.

    • Her work speaks for itself alright we know the ones she stole. The more she steals the cheaper her services will be.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Andrea,

      I’m SURE Natashia of NATASHIA NICOLE PHOTOGRAPHY IN WESTON, WISCONSIN greatly appreciates you bumping this post and keeping this page the top listing when anyone searches for her. Way to go!

    • Here is another thing … innocent people do not shut down their internet presence unless what was posted true.

    • Ric New

      Her work speaks for itself but for some reason she finds the need to use other photographer’s hard work to display as her own.

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      I’m glad she did well with your photos. But that doesn’t negate what she did, because what she did is illegal. Copyright infringe is a serious matter. She also didn’t react very well when she was outed, and even tried to scare the owner of this site with a faux-legal letter from a faux-legal web site.

      It doesn’t matter if she is talented as a photographer. She still did something illegal, and needed to be held accountable. Think of it like this — a person can be a wonderful teacher at a high school, but would that matter if you found out they were stealing things and selling them to others? You’d want that teacher to be held accountable. This is no different.

      It’s not stupid, and it’s unfortunate you don’t seem to understand the issues at hand. If you were more familiar with copyright infringement, intellectual property, and what it feels like to have your work stolen and used by someone else for profit, you would likely feel very differently.

    • Just a Girl

      OH AWESOME! I’m sure anyone looking for recommendations will ignore the proof on this page. Thanks for playing! 🙂

    • Me, Myself and I

      Her work WOULD speak for itself … is she was using her own work.

      The images listed above were STOLEN from other photographers. A violation of copyright law and potentially cause for fraud charges under various False Advertising laws.

      I’m glad she did a great job on your photos … other victims of these frauds and thieves were not so lucky … go read some of the comments from past clients on other entries on this site.

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Anything stolen?

  • Well no time like the present to let them know that she is a fraud.

    Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

    • Marc W.

      I think it’s off their website now… I wonder who posted a comment. *grins*

  • LoLTonelica

    Hmm, I just checked out the sites, capped a few images and went to the reverse searches. It looks like she’s going legit. Unless she’s flipped the images, but having the EXIF data and everything included, it looks like she’s stopped with the thievery.

    While I would personally never employ anyone featured here, I have to give her props for working at the craft. Her own work is starting to look similar in quality to the images she stole. It’s especially disappointing because it just means she never had to steal in the first place.

    If anyone finds anything to the contrary and it turns out these new images are not hers, I wouldn’t be terribly shocked…
    I think I’m more impressed by the fact that she’s using an old domain and facebook. Reactivating something that will forever be tied to Photo Stealers is an interesting decision. It can show that a person will acknowledge their past mistakes and move past them OR that they’re incredibly stupid.

    Here’s just hoping she stops with all the illegal, fraudulent, infringing malarkey.

    • Marc W.

      I think she was still pulled from the magazine facebook and website.

    • We can hope…

      Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.