It’s Fun to Flirt aka Phoopla

It’s Fun to Flirt Web: http://itsfuntoflirt.com/
It’s Fun to Flirt Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ItsFunToFlirt (currently down)
It’s Fun to Flirt Pinterest Gallery: http://www.pinterest.com/itsfuntoflirt/pins/

Phoopla Web: http://phoopla.smugmug.com/
Phoopla Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/phooplaphoto  (currently down)

What started as a boudoir photographer that was stealing images for ads and their gallery (which is oddly hosted on Pinterest) turned into a photographer duo that is an entire new chapter to Photo Stealers.

When caught, the response is not Fuck You. That just gets back to me which means that I need to dig more.

I also am highly amused by the Phoopla tagline, “Fighting the good fight against snobby, overcharging, under-delivering ‘professional’ photographers and designers” and define phoopla as “that feeling when you finally find a photographer that you can truly trust.” I can’t make this shit up.

Update @ 8:15PM EST:  I’ve added a bit more to the post as the Phoopla owners are claiming not to be affiliated with It’s Fun to Flirt which is just silly since it was ON PHOOPLA’S FACEBOOK PAGE.

Website:

There honestly isn’t a lot on their website but the scrolling images at the top. Two I found sources for, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out the other images have original sources as well.

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About Page since they are claiming they aren’t affiliated with Phoopla.  They have changed it since this post went live taking off the link to Phoopla but it’s the same people’s names (Sarah and Jordan) and the same images appear for both.

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Book (note the email to book is phooplaphoto@gmail.com)

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FAQ Page (note the answer about the gallery, this further supports that they were trying to claim the Pinterest Gallery is THEIR work)

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A couple of their FAQ’s are lifted from other sources as well.  Note that a bit more than is highlighted is copied  but it’s better than nothing.  In the lightbox gallery you can see these examples larger.

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Also, while we are at it here’s the whois info for It’s Fun to Flirt, linking back, AGAIN, to Phoopla.

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Facebook:

Again, not a lot here but still images that should not be on this page.

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Pinterest:

The self-loaded images, the verbage beneath the pin, the website leading you here for their gallery in both the “Gallery” section AND the FAQ and the link back to the site all lead you to believe these images are theirs. Many are not.  This is such a clusterf**k. I apologize. Trying to show sources in the cleanest way possible here.

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Ok I’m moving on but I think my point is made?

Phoopla Facebook:

To be fair it appears that their web and Facebook is made up mostly of their own images save for the Flirt ads and cover image.

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  • Tiffany N Ertle

    Fighting the good fight…wow.

  • Their tagline is HILARIOUS…so much irony.

  • Tiffany N Ertle

    She removed the comments section.

    • Tiffany N Ertle

      And now I am blocked 🙁

  • doncalifornia

    That Valentine’s Day ad, the third pinup image in the heart, the source is a Phlearn tutorial. It has been pinned and sent around the world without attribution so of course these knuckeheads took it.

    http://phlearn.com/bts-newfangled-pinup

  • doncalifornia

    I like how their pinterest pin-up pin says “Some are ours, some are inspirations” – of course it appears virtually none of them are theirs. And the boudoir pin doesn’t even have that disclaimer at all, even though the vast majority of the images are swiped.

  • Megan

    Sigh. One of these is mine. And she did clone out my logo. I’ve sent an email asking her to remove it OR repin it (like any normal human being would!!) with my blog backlink. I have senior phtoographers pinning my stuff as inspiration all the time but this is a new one.

    • peaceetc

      Let us know if and how she replies, if you could. I’m sorry this happened to you.

    • Joseph Philbert

      What are they smoking???

    • Thomas Campbell

      http://www.photoattorney.com/2007/07/watermarks-can-be-music-to-your-ears.html

      Read this. And don’t be so nice to those pieces of trash.

    • Photo Stealers

      Megan you can get it removed. Go to the pin and hit the flag and follow the links to report it as your intellectual property.

      • Megan

        It looks like the whole pinterest page is gone now. Thanks for the heads up. You. Rock.

  • doncalifornia

    This is a mess. At least a few of the images shown above were also stolen and used by another photographer you featured just last week, Eddie Arts. When I look through the sources you’ve identified, I see the photos on a few OTHER photography sites and to be honest I just can’t tell if the source you identified did not themselves steal the photo too. LOL. Some of the people in this industry. Geez.

    • Photo Stealers

      The source I’m listing for those images is the original source, Tonee.

      • doncalifornia

        Cool. Well then I have a couple more photographers for you to investigate, lol.

      • doncalifornia

        OK, I’ve kinda got this figured out: Tonee Lawrence at some point became MyPrettyJane.com. THEN, changed her name to Alexah Grey. The Alexah Grey site is identical to Tonee Lawrence’s site. Identical. Photos, text, PPA listing, etc. Only she inserted “Alexah Grey” everywhere “Tonee Lawrence” used to be. That’s why the same images kept coming up multiple times, under different photographers.

        • Photo Stealers

          Yep! She’s had quite a lot of name changes it seems. All are listed under her Facebook page though.

          • tonee.laerence@ gmail.com

            I rebranded, pretty Jane for several years, alexah grey this year

            I don’t know if I’m posting right, I’m on mg phone. Doesn’t appear to be posting all the way :/

          • tonee.lawrence@gmail.com

            4 of the pinterest images are mine

          • doncalifornia

            yep you’re posting OK Tonee. I am glad those various sites are all yours; for a moment I thought your images were being stolen by a half dozen different photographers, lol.

        • tonee lawrence

          yeah I Rebranded when I moved back to Denver from Arkansas

  • maria mack

    Two of these images are mine. Thank you for the pingback! I just reported the pin to pinterest, their board is already down and their facebook page is no longer working. Just ridiculous!!! I would love to send her an email, but I didn’t see one, does anyone have her email?

    • PrettyInPinkaroni

      Maria! She REMOVED your watermarks, too! SERIOUS no no! Find her on whois.com, unless it’s private, it will have an address for a C&D and her mailing, phone etc.

      • therealflirt

        Sarah Crowder
        Phone: 214.460.5460

        E-mail: phooplaphoto@gmail.com

        • maria mack

          Thank you so much!

          • justina

            Also, send them a bill for their unauthorized use.

          • maria mack

            Seriously, she owes all of us money, if she booked any jobs from our work!!

    • PrettyInPinkaroni

      AND send a DMCA to SMUGMUG

  • mich

    Thank you so much! They stole my image and didn’t even remove the “M” watermark!

  • Danea Wease-Burleson

    And it appears the one time I screw up and put images in a blog gallery and some were not watermarked(just realized this now. I am just so blown away that so many people steal images. Idiots.

    I love this site and have followed from the start. On the upside, I made it to photo stealers. Wahoo! Haha.

    • peaceetc

      Danea, I’m a little confused. Are you involved in the Phoopla site, or are you referring to something else?

      • Photo Stealers

        Stolen from.

        • peaceetc

          Oh! Sorry, that makes sense now. Thanks for clearing that up, PS. Danea, I’m very sorry that happened to you.

          • Danea Wease-Burleson

            Oops. Sorry I wasn’t clear.

          • peaceetc

            No, you were fine. I’m the one with poor reading comprehension. 🙂

    • Joseph Philbert

      I never want to be on this site 😛

  • Jordan Crowder

    I did this, not Sarah. Leave her alone, any comments or requests to ‘talk’ need to come to me, Jordan at 214.502.0297, digijordan@gmail.com. All the images have been removed. My apologies to all original artists. Not an excuse but I needed to throw up a site real quick, so I used images from Google. I hate doing that. We filled our first week with tons of great shoots, now I am replacing all the images with our own. The site has been up for less than two weeks. I know what I did was ‘wrong’ I also knew that it would be redone in a matter of days, so didn’t know the internet worked this fast. Lots of people with lots of time I suppose.

    Phoopla is an entirely different site and company. Yes they are affiliated, but that gives none of you the right to go onto peoples pictures of their babies and talk shit. That is crossing the line and it better stop. Phoopla has been in business for over 5 years, very successfully, and we have over 20,000 original images. Nothing concerning Phoopla should be in question here.

    Again, I take responsibility and have taken action to fix. Thanks for holding me accountable, and please stop trolling on my wife’s site disrupting her business. This had absolutely nothing to do with her.

    • Big John

      So if they’re not connected, why is it registered under your name Jordan, with the registrant organization being Phoopla? If they’re not connected, can you explain this? If Phoopla has been in business for over 5 years, with over 20,000 original images, why on earth would you need to take photos from Google images? You mean there weren’t any from the 20,000 good enough to use yourself? If it was going to be redone in a matter of days, why not just wait the few days and do it right?

      On the flip side, I’m glad you own up to your thievery, your admission will work nicely for those who pursue legal action.

      • Jordan Crowder

        I needed boudoir pictures which we had not done at the time. I said they were affiliated. I’m hiding nothing.

        • Jordan Crowder

          I’ve seen my work used on other blogs and sites without my permission. I didn’t care. That’s just me.

          • Bhig Bhad Wolf

            …but that is YOU. YOU can decide wether you “care” that others steal your proverbial work. That others make money off of your proverbial efforts. YOU do NOT get to decide wether or not others should care less that their work is stolen. You should be THANKING this site. Copyright lawsuits can be expensive. Imagine if one of those people sued you?

          • Pake Frofile

            LOL Yeah, wasn’t there a link posted recently to a blog where the writer talked about being sued for using an image she found online??
            Yeah dude you should be thanking people before you got copyright-slapped upside the justice system!!!

          • Jordan Crowder

            I don’t care…I don’t even watermark most of my shit, and when I do it is subtle and out of the way. I am not tacky like most. I want people to see and use it, that is why I took it. Guess I am just different than everyone here…but that is probably a good thing.

          • Joel

            Who are we talking to? Jordan? Or your wife? Cause I thought your wife was the photographer, but you are talking like you are the photographer.

          • CrackerJacker

            According to the site, they are both photographers.

    • Photo Stealers

      The second image in the slideshow on the site is still stolen. It’s the same image that you used for the ads for the Boudoir sessions on Phoopla and Flirt.

      As for Sarah’s involvement, I will let your own “About” page speak for itself.

      “Hi, my name is Sarah, and I am a photographer (Duh!). That handsome fella behind me is Jordan, my husband, who is also a photographer (and designer). We have been running a rapidly growing professional photography studio in Flower Mound, Texas. We handle all types of photography…weddings, families, corporate, celebrities, concerts, parties and everything else you can think of. We’ve even had our work featured on CNN.com, Huffington Post, Celebzter.com, Dallas Observer, USA Today and other local and international mediums.

      For years we have also been doing boudoir and pin up photography off and on. It was something that I loved to do, but just wasn’t sure if the market was big enough to pursue. But sometimes you find your passion, and sometimes your passion finds you. I started to get a ton of requests to do these fun flirty shoots and tada! Flirt Photography was born!

      We pride ourselves on making each session as private, comfortable, sexy and fun as possible. We lighten the mood with refreshments and music and always welcome you to bring a friend. We fully understand the fine line between classy and tacky when it comes to this type of work. We embrace your natural beauty in a tasteful and timeless way.”

    • Dallas Photographer

      What about using the name of a business that is already well established as a boudoir photography business in the Dallas area? Looks like you be renaming your business also.

      • Jordan Crowder

        We are It’s Fun To Flirt. I’ve already changed it. There are dozens of Flirt Photography studios in the world. Not the most original name.

        • Dallas Photographer

          I realize that your domain name but that’s not what your logo says.

          • Jordan Crowder

            It does now. It’s time for y’all to go back to work. That’s what I’m doing.

          • peaceetc

            I don’t think it’s that easy, unfortunately. While it’s good you’ve removed the images, it doesn’t change that you used others’ copyrighted work to make (or at least try to make) money. The photographers from whom you stole have the right to seek compensation. I hope you will work with them and respect their needs in this case.

          • Jordan Crowder

            I am not hard to find.

          • Dallas Photographer

            Really? Because when I look at your website you haven’t changed the name at all. My advice….start over. You said its only been up for two weeks? So start over with your images and a new name that you’ve researched and that isn’t the same as another business in the area.

          • Jordan Crowder

            Thanks for your concern anonymous.

        • Joel

          While I am glad you came on here and owned up to it, you trying to blow this off as a not a big deal is insane. You used copyrighted material on your website to pass off as your own to increase your business. Thats not so easily forgivable.

          Do you know what photographers do when they need pictures for their portfolios? THEY GO OUT AND MAKE THEM! Does it take time and energy and blood, sweat and tears…YES! And it makes you a better photographer for it.

          If you are a CopyWrier then you should know better! Some lessons need to be learnt the hard way. And judging from some of the photographers you stole from, They may just teach you that lesson.

          • Jordan Crowder

            I have been a photographer for a long time. Everyone wants to judge on here…easy on line itsnt it.

          • Joel

            IF…that is true, then why didn’t you use your own pictures for the portfolio?

    • peaceetc

      John, I appreciate you coming here and attempting to explain. I do have a few questions:

      1. Why were watermarks removed from those images?

      2. Was there something about the site/business which needed to be up so quickly you couldn’t wait to use only your own work?

      3. As Photo Stealers pointed out, both you and your wife are talked about on the ‘about’ section, and it appears to have been written by her. If she isn’t directly involved, why is it written that way?

      • Jordan Crowder

        Shouldn’t have removed the watermarks. Those were just for inspiration for clients.

        I needed the site to advertise our first event.

        I wrote it as her. She relies on me for copywriting since I do it for a living. It’s her biz, I was just helping. (I thought)

        • Pake Frofile

          These excuses are so lame.

        • Paul

          So it was you that called yourself ‘handsome’? You’re such a tool…

        • Big John

          You do copyrighting for a living and don’t understand how a copyright works, or the proper way to even spell the word?

          • Nicole Wells

            Copywriting is different to copyrighting.

        • Joseph Philbert

          Bullshit you “CANT” write like your wife. The way someone composes a sentence is unique to their thought process.
          Who you create a about is how you would word it … no matter how long you have been together … unless she was right behind you telling you what to type word for word and you did not make any corrections or additions.

          This is called a CJ.

        • Eric Lefebvre

          OH MY GOD! You work as someone who creates intelectual property (copywriting) BUT HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT STEALING OTHER PEOPLES WORK?!? Better hope your boses or clients don;t see this comment!

          • Jordan Crowder

            Hey Eric Lefebvre from Château-Thierry, Fuck You…shhh

          • Eric Lefebvre

            Wrong Eric … try again.

    • Bhig Bhad Wolf

      I love how you blame others for getting caught stealing. That’s neat. At least it wasn’t a “publicist” or “employee” this time.

      Tip: when you apologize, it’s good form to NOT come off as a douchebag, while being snarky and insulting to the people who want justice from those you willingly and knowingly stole from. It tends to piss of the real professionals that frequent this blog, and take theft personally.

      Just say’n.

      • Jordan Crowder

        I will say, there is some serious judgment going on here. I just left the hospital where my mom is in a coma, so some of these things are pretty insignificant to me…sorry if I do not see the seriousness. I apologized as sincerely as I can, you can stop the hatred now.

        • peaceetc

          Let’s see if I can explain it, Jordan. The photos you used without permission or attribution were copyrighted by other photographers. You used them illegally to promote your business, so not only did you violate the copyrights of the photographers, you tried to directly benefit from others’ work. You put those photos out there as if they were taken by you and/or your wife, thereby misleading potential customers by misrepresenting your photography and your business. You called them “inspiration,” but it wasn’t. It was a lie.

          That is why it’s a big deal. And my apologies about your mother, but we all have our stories. None of that is relevant here.

          • Jordan Crowder

            I get it, does everyone on this site only know how to talk in a condescending manner? What is left for me to do? All yall want is money? Give me a break…at some point, its time to move on.

          • peaceetc

            You said you didn’t understand what the big deal was. I was trying to explain. I fail to see how that is condescending.

            I suggest taking a look at the archives of this site, and maybe it will help you understand why we take everything one of the people outed on here with a grain of salt. We’ve heard pretty much every single excuse there is. If you really want a wild ride, check out the Christopher Jones/Ryan Christoph listing. This ain’t our first rodeo.

          • Jordan Crowder

            I wish I had a fraction of your free time

          • peaceetc

            We’re a group of people who care about the photography industry, and want to see the rights of photographers enforced. That means standing up for others and doing what we can to help those who need it. Photo Stealers does a use service to the community, and is well respected by thousands of people. The rest of us try to help in whatever way we can. Yes, there are those who do stupid crap (insults, etc.), but that doesn’t represent the majority of us.

            Besides, it doesn’t require a lot of free time to do what is right.

          • Jordan Crowder

            I guess man…it all just makes me laugh

          • peaceetc

            It shouldn’t. Just the fact you don’t take this seriously says a lot.

          • Jordan Crowder

            Man, nothing I can say will affect these people. They made up their mind a long time ago.

          • neilvn

            And similarly, nothing we say seems to make a dent with you. We’re just not getting through that sheer wall of arrogance and entitlement.

          • Photo Stealers

            Have you read the taglines for Phoopla? I don’t think Jordan and Sarah really respect the industry, definitely not enough to take this seriously.

          • Steven Joseph

            My wife worked professionally with criminals. You should hear yourself. She says you talk & think just like them. It’s not your fault. It’s everyone else’s fault. And most psychotically “it all just makes me laugh.” Like all thieves you’ve deluded yourself into thinking that stealing other peoples’ property and harmingthem is no big deal. You’d think differently if we came to your house and stole your cars, stole your cameras, stole your jewelry “for inspiration”. You’re a thief.

          • Well clearly you have plenty of time to continue to reply with banal arguments while not actually taking the time to do what is right – namely remove the illegally used images from your wife’s sites…

          • neilvn

            You should have oodles of free time, since you don’t do the actual work in building up a portfolio and business.

          • Photo Stealers

            Remove all of the copyrighted images (and words) would be a start.

          • Lyn

            And an actual apology instead of just throwing it back at those that called you out? What if you were stolen from (which equals money) where you couldn’t pay your families medical bills?

          • Steven Joseph

            Hopefully the images you stole were copyrighted and the owners sue you for the millions of dollars you’re liable for according to copyright law. So, yeah, I’d love to see you separated from your money.

        • Eric Lefebvre

          Your mothers “hypothetical” hospitalization has no relevance to your theft. Far too late to try and drum up sympathy … go back re-read your douche bag comments.

    • You say all the images have been removed, but your site http://itsfuntoflirt.com/ still uses multiple photos you have no rights to, nor did you or your wife create.

      So you’re still committing intellectual property theft at this time.

      • Jordan Crowder

        Ha, yall are persistent…I thought I had taken it down while I am working on it

        • Professionals are persistent. It’s how we got to where we are today, not by stealing or taking credit for other peoples’ work.

          • Jordan Crowder

            This is where photographers get a bad wrap…so fucking fragile and pretentious. I have had lots of my work ‘stolen’…who gives a shit. Life is too short my friends.

          • No, this is where thieves and cowards accuse others of weakness to cover their own inadequacies… Looking at your work, I doubt you’ve had much if any of it infringed upon. Who gives a shit? The people who actually have built a career at this and care about the industry as a whole.

            Photographers don’t get a bad rap (its not “wrap”) for acting professionally and looking out for the interests of other photographers – wannabes give the industry a bad name by not learning how to properly run a business or take accountability for their actions.

          • Jordan Crowder

            Ha

          • neilvn

            But but but … “For years we have also been doing boudoir and pin up photography off and on.”

          • lol – which must have been so good that they had to steal their samples instead of using the ones they shot ‘off and on’ ‘for years’…

          • Danea Wease-Burleson

            Dude, really? You took time to not only select but remove watermarks… and yes I can’t help but chuckle that I am always so careful to watermark and totally missed that I posted a few that didn’t get watermarked- in the words of your wife “Duh!”. However, that didn’t seem to stop you with others. I don’t understand why us being upset somehow makes us “fragile and pretentious”. That’s just as idiotic as claiming our work as your own, and come one man, placeholders? That’s lamer than a one legged elephant with no tail… and only one cataract inflicted, crossed eye.

            I realize I shouldn’t be wasting my time responding, it’s futile and if not you, it will be someone else who feels entitled to gain from other peoples successes and to eat out of the bulk bins at the grocery store and park in the no parking zone when picking their kid up from school, but I digress. Those you stole from are hard working people and not just a website with pretty pictures. I have worked my ass off the past few years to build my business. The first year I shot boudoir I had three foot surgeries that had me in a surgical boot and then gardening shoes(because of the extreme pain)for 11 months while we renovated and I took on clients. This has not been an easy road for me. I was told that I would be wheelchair bound by my teenage years, never drive a car, never have kids, would be in adult assisted living by my 20’s and yet here I am 40+ corrective surgeries later… I found a guy who loves me, I have two young boys(oh yeah, he looooves me), bought a brand new car that I can, in fact, drive. I’m capable of everything the doctors said I wouldn’t be, although I will never be able to do cartwheels and I am struck with fear when I hear “High Five” because my hands are too effed up to do one, AND I built my own Boudoir Photography Business– all by myself. Without stealing. Go figure. Next week I will be going in for reconstructive surgery on my left hand and it may leave me without any knuckles, God I hope not, but as long as I can hold my damn camera in 8 weeks time then I am going to keep doing what I love to do with scantly clad women– make them feel beautiful. Not once did it cross my mind to rush this process and use other peoples photos, that’s just a poor excuse for the lazy and SHAMELESS. Crap, now I have that dang Garth Brooks song in my head.

            Am I pissed you tried to pull off one of my images as your own, of course, but I am more pissed that I didn’t register my images back then because I would love to sue your ass. I think it’s time us photographers take this seriously and do just that. Especially when time is taken to remove watermarks. We all have a story, Jordan, and the sob stories and excuses given by yourself and others for doing what you did is tired and old. We’ve all heard it and heck my 4yr old shows more creativity with excuses when caught being a punk ass little kid.

            It’s time for a real change in this industry. It’s really damn sad that there has to be a website dedicated to this.

            Now If you’ll excuse me, I have a pitchfork that needs sharpening… and more images to register with the copyright office.

          • Photo Stealers

            For what it is worth you absolutely can still sue him. Once the shutter is clicked, you own the copyright unless there’s a contract that states otherwise. Registering the images just entitles you to more compensation.

          • Danea Wease-Burleson

            Pitchfork = getting all this in order. 😀

          • doncalifornia

            Danae did he remove a watermark from your image? If so, it doesn’t matter that you didn’t register it, he has committed a more serious offense and you can get damages whether or not you registered your copyright. Read this: http://www.photoattorney.com/2007/07/watermarks-can-be-music-to-your-ears.html

          • Danea Wease-Burleson

            Unfortunately, although I am a stickler for watermarking, I managed to let a few un-watermarked slip into a blog post gallery. 🙁

          • doncalifornia

            Woah, asshat, photographers get a bad rap because some of them commit fraud and infringe copyrights. Are you out of your mind with that comment?

          • Eric Lefebvre

            No friends here dude … we aren’t “fragile”, we are trying to protect our business interests from parasites like you.

    • Rich Reierson

      May I mention that your own profile is “It’s Fun to Flirt aka Phoopla” We didn’t make this up.

    • Megan

      Jordan-as someone’s work you stole- now that you’ve made a profit from using my image to lure in clients- I wanted to tell you that despite what you have done to me personally (I just ran this usage through fotoquote- it’s coming to $1500 an image- so $4500 in just usage- money I could use in slow time) but it is the words that you have put out into the world that are bringing down this business.

      I have to say- I’m thoroughly disgusted by not only your unprofessional and unethical behavior with your business…but also having that disgusting, uneducated tag line that demeans and bashes anyone who actually wants to make a living, feed their families, pay their sick kids medical bills and also be able to put money back INTO their business to LEARN to make quality portfolio images. I charge what I need to charge to do these things, educate myself, create these images, grow as a photographer, artist and business person and you not only STEAL them for a profit but you bash me at the same time? STOP TEACHING PEOPLE THAT PHOTOGRAPHY IS WORTHLESS.

      What business name/personal name is your PPA membership under? What you’ve done is against their code of conduct and I’d like to report you. I’m not seeing you registered like you claim to be on your “about” section.

      • Aaron Lee

        Exactly. Dude has NO RESPONSE to this.

    • CrackerJacker

      “I know what I did was ‘wrong’ I also knew that it would be redone in a
      matter of days, so didn’t know the internet worked this fast. Lots of
      people with lots of time I suppose.”

      I LOVE how you do something you say you know is wrong and then make a snide comment because you got caught. Truly douchey behavior. If you’re going to give a mea culpa, stow the attitude.

    • peaceetc

      CrackerJacker brings up a good point about your attitude. I’ve seen those who expressed sincere remorse have their listings on here removed by Photo Stealers. That happened a week or two ago, in fact, because the person truly didn’t realize what she’d done was wrong and she owned up to it completely. You, on the other hand, chose to cop an attitude and make fun of others, trying to belittle even the photographers from whom you stole. You can call people whatever names you like, but none of this would have happened if you hadn’t stolen in the first place. So, Jordan, this is all on you. You knew it was wrong when you stole in the first place. You’re just pissed that people called you on it. I haven’t seen any evidence you care about those from whole you stole, and you certainly don’t take any of this seriously.

      Oh, and can the threats about your wife. She is part of the business, so she is partly responsible, even if she herself wasn’t directly involved in the stealing.

    • Joseph Philbert

      You are an IDIOT … there was never a need to “throw up images” just because you have a new site and even if you did with in reason you should have replaced them with out haste… Dont tell me….
      1. You forgot
      2. Never had time
      3. The images I stole are better than mine (this is the reason)
      4. Read number 3 and ignore 1 and 2

    • Eric Lefebvre

      You really don;t get it … your admissions here will lead you to court for copyright violation for HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS! You are quite literally RUINED!

      And all this bull about leaving your wife out of it? Is she listed as the owner or operator of the business? Then she is also liable.

      My advice to you is pull the site completely down and contact a lawyer RIGHT NOW.

  • Tiffany Fosnight Walker

    I am the owner of the boudoir ad’s image. You clearly used MY image to book up your sessions for Feb 1st. At 7:17 PST you STILL have it up after ripping everything else offline. To say to leave your wife out of this is a crock of shit. Her name is on the ad with MY photo. She’s probably ripping you a new one so she wants you to take blame. Poor you. At $300 whats my commission on this? So who do I send the bill to?

    • Jordan Crowder

      Ha

      • peaceetc

        Ha? That’s all you can say?

        • Jordan Crowder

          These people are funny…never seen so many high horses. It makes me laugh.

          • perfect. You’ll hear from my lawyer then.

          • Jordan Crowder

            You know where to find me.

          • Rich Reierson

            I’ll be there in a week, want me to kick Tiffany in the twat or bring her a check?

          • Jordan Crowder
          • Rich Reierson

            I was being facetious….you stole from her.

          • doncalifornia

            LOL Jordan anything else you want to say so Tiffany can add it to the file? 😉

        • Jordan Crowder

          Look, I started out nice and peaceful, just trying to be honest, and was repeatedly attacked by your minions. Its getting old.

        • and what else would you like me to say?

          • peaceetc

            Not you, Tiffany. I meant Jordan. I have nothing but empathy for you. It’s terrible your work was stolen.

    • Send it to:

      Sarah Crowder
      4023 Willow Run
      Flower Mound, TX 75028

      • Jordan Crowder

        Look you piece of shit, don’t ever say my wifes name again, so help me, I have a lot of flyer miles saved up. Be a man, talk to me.

        • Tough words, thief. It’s your wife’s (Sarah’s) business; she’s responsible for it, and for the infringement. I’m sure she saw the site before she booked any work, which makes her a thief as well.

          If she needs to hide behind your skirt, then she’s going to have a tough time in the business…

          • Amber Kost

            Sounds to me like Sarah has the balls in the relationship, making sure Jordan here faces the fire, while she sits back and laughs

          • Jordan Crowder

            Holy fucking shit you little pieces of shit. I have given you all my direct contact info, now I know your names. This shit is easy behind a message board you cowards…I will bring this shit to your front door.

          • Jordan Crowder

            Funny shit Amber…is this the right Amber https://www.facebook.com/blondeamazon79

          • CrackerJacker

            I’m sorry, how is seeing the Facebook pages of all these talented photographers who HAVEN’T stolen other people’s images supposed to be some big gotcha? Or are you apologizing by upping their SEO?

            Guessing you didn’t think that part through, huh?

          • Joseph Philbert

            Jordon DO ME DO ME I have a image of myself in a wedding dress 🙂

          • Guest

            These people are nutters, and they have the bollucks to ask why we don’t use our real names. Next he will post your home address and where your children attend schooling.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Lol

          • Jordan Crowder

            Oh Bob, I am sorry, I looked at your website and Facebook page, it is pretty fucking sad…Keep trying though Sparky

          • Yeah, that’s a great comeback… My publishing credits include LIFE magazine, Sports Illustrated, The Economist, the NY TImes, Policy Review, the Washington Post, and about 300 publications outside of my work for Associated Press over 8 years. I can back up my credits – I didn’t have to make mine up, or steal anyone’s work… nice try, though..

          • Eric Lefebvre

            OH MY GOD! I wish me credentials were even 1/4 that interesting!!!

          • Thanks Eric. I was lucky enough to start my career a long time ago (back in the days of film) when journalists could still make a decent living, and no publications ever said “we pay you with photo credit”
            I really feel for anyone just starting out in today’s market…

          • Eric Lefebvre

            Just had that from some small time jewelry start-up. Gave them a good price since they are just starting out and I was feeling generous … oh, I don’t have anything budgeted for this, I figured you could use the pictures for your portfolio … NEXT and good luck starting your ONLINE STORE with no or crap pictures.

        • Eric Lefebvre

          Cool, we can now add in threats of physical violence to your long list of crimes.

        • Joseph Philbert

          Sniff sniff … To the man calling the phone of strangers cussing smh

    • neilvn

      This clearly is fraud. No other word for it. Fraud.

    • Joseph Philbert

      And this is how the cookie crumbles @jordon crowder

  • neilvn

    I had a phone call this morning from a very blustery and aggressive Jordan, where I could barely get a word in, and at one point he even told me to “fuck off”. He also told me to not be such a “whiny jerk from some other country”. I essentially wanted to get through to Jordan and explain to him how Copyright Law in the USA works, and what statutory damages are.

    What I find mildly amusing and quite annoying is how “just needed a few images to get started” is apparently a valid explanation and we should all just understand and get on with our work.

    What is completely egregious here is how WE spend money on models / studios / gear / insurance etc etc and then freeloaders like Jordan & his Flirty boudoir business can just steal left and right to try and hoist themselves up. On our backs. Freeloaders. You have NO excuse. A simple “I am sorry I got caught” will not suffice. None of your insincere apologies accepted.

    • Joel

      Wow what is wrong with some people. They just want to be wrong and strong. Seems like we may have a new Chris Jones on our hands.

      • Amber Kost

        Noooo! One is already too much!

    • peaceetc

      Thank you for posting this, Neil. I think that sums everything up about this particular situation quite nicely.

    • Jordan Crowder

      In my defense, Neil is a complete douche

      • christiecolliermann

        Really? You steal images, you get caught out but he’s the douche?

      • Amber Kost

        In the words of my 4 year old “so are you, but what am I?”. Get over yourself. You’re an egocentric, narcissistic thief, and you will never win a battle of the wits, seeing as you’re working with no ammunition….

  • Flirt Boudoir Photography

    Oh good, you’ve finally changed the images. However, STILL using the same business name. Guess you will be hearing from our lawyer as well.

    • Jordan Crowder

      Ha…

    • Jordan Crowder

      Glad you are visiting my site so much, let me know if you want to book

  • Jordan Crowder

    I am just glad I could entertain everyone tonight. All you tough guys, you have my address, I would like to hear your hateful comments in person.

    • Jordan Crowder

      Or is that not how this site works?

      • Actually, no one wants to hear from you at all – but if Sarah wanted to come here, we’d be happy to help guide her in how to work constructively with the industry to make it better for everyone. But I’m guessing you don’t let her speak for herself – that says volumes.

        • peaceetc

          Right, Bob. We’d rather educate than hate.

        • Jordan Crowder

          214.502.0297…call me, come see me, you ignorant, weak little piece of shit. You will only comment on here with an ignorant audience…talk to me, why do you need them to qualify what your dumb ass says…fuck you you little fucking bitch, call me, call me now…I will find you, I guarantee it

          • Yawn. You might want to give up on the “intimidating Jordan” persona – it doesn’t impress anyone, only makes you to seem like a fool who has no control or intelligence and frankly makes us wonder even more why you won’t let Sarah speak on her own behalf… Screaming “fuck you” “fuck you” and promising to act like a stalker only serves to make you look like a frustrated15 yr. old who got hold of his dad’s computer…

    • doncalifornia

      You are acting like everyone is gleefully tearing you apart undeservedly. What people are reacting to is your attitude that everyone here just has too much time on their hands and that their outrage over your theft is some sort of “hate”. It’s not hate. It’s just that your comments suggest you think this is all much ado over nothing. You stole other photographers’ work, you removed their watermarks, you violated copyrights and you defrauded anyone who hired you based on those photos. This isn’t nothing. No one wants to come to your house and go face to face. Don’t get the testosterone flowing, sparky.

    • Susan

      Agree with doncalifornia. This is not hate. This is everyone calling you out for doing something illegal to make money. You are the one who made a conscious decision to STEAL. As an industry we are disgusted and fed up with creeps like you STEALING from legitimate artists who are trying to earn a living HONESTLY.

    • Eric Lefebvre

      Nah … you’ll just hear from lawyers instead.
      Let’s see … 150000$ per infringement + 2500$ to 25000$ per watermark removed + legal fees …

    • C Sab

      You entertain us more with your hilariously braindead comments and fake toughness. 😉 If you were really such a tough guy yourself YOU would come to US to talk shit, not barricading your house while you wait for others to do the same. 😛

  • christiecolliermann

    So Jordan admits to stealing images, he admits to taking off watermarks (because what’s the big deal), who’s sending him and his wife bills for unauthorised use of their copyrighted images? Who is going to be taking it further? I doubt he realises how much potential shit both he and his lovely wife are in.

  • Jordan Crowder

    Yall have fun talking about me, I am going to do fun stuff.

    • Amber Kost

      Like search Google for ‘your’ new work?

    • doncalifornia

      Actually it’s not fun. It’s sort of amazing. It’s a head-scratcher. People who want to sell photos professionally but don’t have any work to show, thinking it’s OK to just lift other photographers’ photos (“just for a while ’til I get customers”), is sort of dumbfounding. So, fun? I don’t know. Watching a train wreck isn’t fun, but it does keep our attention.

      • peaceetc

        It’s like someone who starts a hardware store but doesn’t have any stock, so they “borrow” the stock of someone else’s store, just until they can get stock of their own. That wouldn’t fly, so I don’t get why people think it should when it comes to photos.

    • captain-confuzzled

      you do that, go have fun, I’m sure your mom in a coma would want it that way. (I will say I am truly sorry if she is actually in a coma and wish her the best)

      • guest

        I think her mom died yesterday by her facebook and she’s off to have fun. She should hook it up with CJ. psychopaths.

        • Jordan Crowder

          I am figuring out who you are, and it will not be good.

          • CrackerJacker

            Yaaawwwwnnnn…..

        • Guest

          Wait is Jordan a male or female? And why does it want to know who I am? I hope I get presents. Do you need my address?

    • Aaron Lee

      Yeah… SCREW accountability… I deserve some “fun” time.

      lol… what a tool.

  • Sarah Linnea Tatom

    The idea that you “needed a website” is really silly. why? if you don’t have a portfolio get some models and make one. If you have been in the business for years that shouldn’t be hard.
    It was incredibly unprofessional, and your suggestion that it wasn’t a big deal is insane. especially since you took the time to edit out watermarks. that shows intent to steal knowing the illegality of your actions.
    Your disrespect for your craft is astounding.

    • Amber Kost

      It’ll only be a big deal if it happens to him. But if he still has to steal images after “years”in business, I’m guessing his own work isn’t worth stealing

  • Hey flirt boudoir: maybe we can get a group rate on a lawyer?

    • Eric Lefebvre

      Those are called Class Action Lawsuits. 🙂

  • Michael Goolsby

    I think we are failing to appreciate the dramatic shift in the paradigm of professional photography.

    Just twenty years ago, the average professional photographer actually had to possess some basic knowledge of photography in order to open a business. Although there were probably still charlatans and cheats, even being a dishonest photographer was still a challenge. Everything was in print, and theft of original negatives for marketing was a crime which simply did not exist. Marketing was still difficult, and established studios always enjoyed the upper hand, with their extensive portfolios and long-term investments in capital, such as gear and studio facilities.

    Fast-forward to today: a cheap camera, a free web-site, and a few clicks of a mouse can create the appearance of a world-class studio in an afternoon. And if they are caught with the stolen goods, they can just claim the photos were there as “inspiration”.

    Indeed, did we not just yesterday find a website of stolen photographs actually named “Photographic Inspirations”? Ironic.

    It is said that if you put a frog in a pot of boiling water, he will jump out, but if you put him in normal water and then heat it gradually, he will sit in it and eventually boil to death. For the past ten years, professional photographers have sat in water while remaining oblivious to the charlatans who steadily raise the temperature by slowly devaluing the industry.

    That is why I don’t mind the public crucifixion (metaphorical) of photo stealers, even the ones who claim it to be in the name of “inspiration”. Let the photo inspire the photographer to try harder. Let it inspire the potential client to seek out the artist who created it. But do NOT let it enrichen the photographer did NOT create it.

    Stealing the creative property of a fellow photographer breaks one of the greatest unwritten laws of the professional photography industry. The cost of entry into the professional world has just become too low so that one does not even need to have ever shot a single photograph before taking on the appearance of a world-class pro. This is unfair to both the established pro who has paid his dues to get where he is, as well as the newbie who is striving to follow the rules and learn his craft legitimately in order to reach his own personal goals.

    We desperately need an internal governing body with which the industry can regulate itself and protect against charlatans, thieves, and others who would taint it. An “international photographer’s guild” with member open to all photographers of every type willing to vow and be held to a higher standard.

  • Susan

    Just let a photographer in my area know that one of her images is on here.

  • Lorne Chesal

    We haven’t spoken about the other possible injured parties. The new boudoir bookings as a result of this. Their expectations were set (and presumably money exchanged) based on fraud. Admitted fraud.

    Will Jordan’s swagger and “get over it” mantra stand up to angry/disappointed clients? Will the quality produced be consistent with what was shown? Based on the 3 remaining images on the home page slideshow, I think not.

    Karma has trouble keeping up with the speed of the internet, but here’s hoping their paying clients get fairer treatment than the photographers who have “inspired” Phoopla folks.

  • Jordan Crowder

    I gave all you clowns my personal information, and instead of talking to me like mature adults you coward on this amateur site so you have an audience of like minded bitches who live in their mom’s basements or are lucky enough to sleep on the couch.

    If any of you fucking douche bags have even one nut, then I challenge you to a photography contest. I will even let your simple little judgmental, pretentious, going out of business ass pick the subject and the timeline. Any of you little fucks. Bring it on.

    • Jordan Crowder

      And you know how to get ahold of me, but if you need it again, I am Jordan Crowder, 214.502.0297, digijordan@gmail.com….I am not anonymous like you little bitches, I have nothing to hide and even tho you insult me behind your mom’s little message board I will fuck you up in real life. If you want to talk in real life, or want to have a photographic battle, anything…lets do it. I will win. Fuck you.

      • Joseph Philbert

        Naa dude … not all of us anonymous I have not need or reason to battle you or call you. Douche.

        • Jordan Crowder

          Scared little bitch, just got off the phone with you. You or Julie have enough balls to battle me? I will make it a simple photography battle, don’t worry, you won’t get hurt, only your fragile ego…what do you say?

          • Joseph Philbert

            Me and Julie ? My wife ???? Boy you are nothing but a child …. My wife has nothing to do with this nor does she care… You called me and started cussing I just laughed and told you to continue .. Then you hanged up. Lame

      • neilvn

        We aren’t anonymous. YOU found US by stealing our images. So you apparently know how to get to our websites and our info. It’s all there.

    • Jordan Crowder

      No replies yet, come on you scared little bitches

      • neilvn

        I had to stop laughing first. *wiping tears from my eyes*

      • C Sab

        LOL You wanna call us scared? Come call us little bitches to our faces, see what happens little pussy. 😉

        • Melinda Potter

          Ewwwww you two deserve each other. Seriously C Sab, watch it, because you’re acting just like they do, and that kind of crap makes all of us look bad, and threatens this blog’s integrity.

          • C Sab

            No, it doesn’t. Only a fool would doubt such a successful site because of one person. And this site doesn’t need fools like that. Besides, I’ve handled guys like him before, I know what I’m doing. Just go about annoying him in your own way. 🙂

        • Joseph Philbert

          Dont go to his level PLEASE C-Sab …just brush it and laugh it annoys him 🙂

          • C Sab

            Oh trust me, challenging them back annoys them too. They like to think they’re superior and hate it when they get proven wrong.

          • Joseph Philbert

            True just don’t want it to get crazy in the post.. You know most of us are professionals 🙂

          • C Sab

            lol It won’t get crazy. He’ll either never come back here cause he knows he can’t win, or he’ll just keep spewing the same laughable bs he has been this whole time. Either outcome, the real photographers (us) win.

      • Jordan Crowder Douche Photog

        The only scared little bitch is you you roid popping scumbag.

        😀

  • Jordan Crowder

    I am finding and contacting all of you independently, so if you get a weird call, and it doesn’t stop, that is just me. I just want to ask some questions…like yall…it will go away eventually, probably…

    • Joseph Philbert

      340 626 2618 call me day or night loser.. Your threats are pointless

    • C Sab

      Bring it on poser.

  • Jordan Crowder

    Do we have the record for most comments? I want to come away with something from this pathetic website…

    • Joseph Philbert

      Sorry dude you can never beat CJ 1000+ comments and counting..

  • Joseph Philbert

    So he called me …. and all he could do was call me “faggit” f that and f this and every word under the sun then he hanged up…
    Al I could do is laugh.
    Pathetic…

    • Jordan Crowder

      So join me in a photo competition…or are you scared like every other amateur on here…

      • Michael Goolsby

        When someone fictionalizes their work with stolen images, refers to the site that caught them as a “pathetic switchboard”, and then calls others “little bitches” who “can’t back it up”, talks about going “head to head”, and then challenges the very community that outed him to a photo competition… geez, it’s either a matter of a person with a humongous set of balls or a total lack of reality. And I’m inclined to believe the latter.

        What is completely pathetic here is the excuse for a business called HOOPLA, PHOOPLA or FLIRT or whatever name of the month they’re using. They claim to have opened their business in 2010, but then refer to their tenure in the business as “many years”.. They tell their customers that they are “honest” and “transparent”. They’re not. They tout that they are PPA affiliated. If they are, they shouldn’t be allowed any longer. They have been caught stealing red-handed, but the only fault they find is with others. Big balls? No scruples? Heck, maybe it’s both.

        Bottom line: creative thieves are losers. These fauxtographers are losers. And all his bluster, challenges, insults, and threats — designed to distract from the fact that they are thieves — cannot change that.

        Jordan… you need to let go off all this “photography competition” bullshit. You had your chance to compete, honestly, and you blew it. It’s time to leave the stage now. At this point, you’re just coming across like one of those pathetic losers on American Idol who blew their audition, then keep insisting that they should have yet another chance, and then give the finger to the camera as they walk away, saying that it’s the judges’ fault. You’ve shown your character, and it is greatly wanting. You were not the first “photo stealer”, and you won’t be the last. But nothing you do now is going to make you look any better. All you can do is try not to look worse. It’s time for you to leave.

      • C Sab

        LOL says the guy who needs to steal pics in order to run a photography business.

      • Melinda Potter

        I’m possibly the only amateur that has commented on photostealers posts, and I’m not afraid of you or any of the other people who have been featured here. You see Jordan, you have already gone “head to head” with all the pros and amateurs alike, and lost miserably. You lost due to poor work ethic, your illegal actions, and horrible communication and marketing etc. This isn’t about photographic skill (or in this case, lack there of and the reason why you felt the need to use others work to try to promote you and your wife’s business). This is about integrity, ethics, and legality. Using other photographer’s hard work to promote your business, is the lowest thing a photographer could possibly ever do. It’s despicable. Then top that off with vulgar behavior and you have a loser in it’s truest sense. You lost, you’ve proven you lost, you made it blatantly clear that you lost. Time to move on from this Jordan, instead of digging the hole you made even deeper than what it already is.

      • Michael Goolsby

        A “photo competition”? Man, you’ve already LOST the competition. You had a chance to compete fairly with HONEST photographers who don’t STEAL from other photographers because they don’t have the goods themselves. You’ve had your chance and shown your character. Now NOBODY wants anything to do with you. Go home. It’s over.

        • C Sab

          Sad part is, he’ll never realize he lost.

        • Eric Lefebvre

          And we’d have no guarantee the images would even be his.

    • Jordan Crowder

      Nothing but little bitches…talk shit, can’t back it up…I will wait till tomorrow, hopefully someone on this pathetic switchboard has enough self worth to go head to head.

      • C Sab

        LOL And yet here you are talking shit and never backing it up. Come on bitch, show us what you can do if you’re so tough. Man I feel sorry for that desperate chick in your pic if she lowered herself to be seen with a poser like you. XD

        • Joseph Philbert

          OhOH he will go on your website and say it sucks and you have no credibility smh

          • C Sab

            Yeah, cause that’s all these “internet tough-guy’s” got. If someone were to come after them, they’d piss themselves cause then they actually have to back up their empty bravado.

    • neilvn

      Joseph … sounds consistent with his tone and demeanor when he called me.

    • C Sab

      lol I’d be laughing too if that was all they were capable of doing.

  • cfw

    These thieves are like the scum that lurk in the shadows of dark alleyways waiting for the unexpecting person to come along so they can steal their hard-earned goods, then scurry away to another unexposed hiding place to wait for their next victim.

    Keep up the good work exposing these thieves.

    cfw

  • C Sab

    Best thing about this clown’s comments is that he acts tough but as someone who knows about fitness, I can tell when someone enjoys popping roids for breakfast and this guy…well you get what I’m saying. XD

  • CrackerJacker

    This guy is seriously hurting right now and doesn’t seem to know how to deal with his feelings. All he can do is lash out at those who he sees as some of the cause of that pain. We should be glad, we might be saving others around him in his real life from his venom.

  • captain-confuzzled

    While I am right there calling out photo stealers, at this point for Jordan, Please just stop!!! Per his FB page his mother did just pass away after a very short hard fought illness. I don’t care what he says or how he acts here right now, please, please just let it ride for now. There is nothing in photography that is worth kicking someone at this moment in their lives (not that anyone is kicking him per se, but just not go into his strange place regarding pictures). I understand he is lashing out, but maybe we should just let him do that and understand. I’m so sorry Jordan for your loss.

    • Joseph Philbert

      Sorry that his mother has died but that does not excuse his behavior …. Plus he was doing this waaaaaay before her death … Sorry no free passes..

    • peaceetc

      I am truly sorry about his mother, and feel for him and his family.

      If he wants to vent, that is fine, but not at the expense of others. The harassment of others has to stop.

      • captain-confuzzled

        agree that he should not harass anyone, that behavior is not okay ever by anyone. But hoping we wouldn’t egg him on either, knowing that his fuse is probably shorter than normal at this moment. but hey, that’s just me. To each his own.

        • peaceetc

          I absolutely agree. I don’t like it when people egg on bad behavior. Pushing his buttons doesn’t help anything.

    • C Sab

      What happened is tragic but that doesn’t excuse him from being a total douchebag or stealing from others and using them for his own benefit. It’s sleazy and underhanded no matter how you look at it.

    • cfw

      Even Charles Manson had a mother, that died. While I may emphasize with the fact of losing a mother, the man is still a monster.

    • OtterMatt

      Allow me to be the first to say:

      Sympathy has nothing to do with letting people escape the consequences of their actions.

  • Jordan’s Douche

    Much like “Christoph” or whatever the hell he’s calling himself these days, report all of these thieves to the IRS. Seriously the best way to get them to shut the fuck up. Here is the IRS form for doing it. This form allows for anonymous reporting, but there’s another one if you google it that allows you to collect a reward on whatever they collect.

    The first form 3949A is the one you want: http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/How-Do-You-Report-Suspected-Tax-Fraud-Activity%3F

    I hope the IRS eats your lunch, Jordan. Doubt you’ll be so ballsy when they start digging around your finances lolz

    • Jordan Crowder Douche Photog

      I know it’s a moot point, but all of the text on their website is stolen as well 🙁

  • Jordan Crowder douche nozzle

    LOLOLOLOL at Jordan Crowder. To phrase it how he would have said it: “deleted his profile like a scared little bitch”. LOLOL.

    • Joseph Philbert

      Honestly I ma surprised he did that…. I wonder if his wife followed suit.

    • C Sab

      He was a perfect example of a little bitch. lol

  • Photomedic

    As much as I think it is appropriate for people stealing photos (the reason for stealing is irrelevant) to be exposed, I think civility should be the order of the day here. By US copyright law, removing the stolen photographs does NOT negate monetary damages from being awarded. its up to the people who were stolen from to decide whether or not they want to pursue legal action. Apologies not withstanding, I think there is SOMETHING owed to the people whose hard work was stolen to make someone else money. “im sorry” does nothing to compensate those people, and seems barely half hearted considering it was said after the theft was noticed. If someone stealing photos was actually TRULY sorry and repentant, they would offer monetary compensation to the real photographers for using their work. Either way, I find it somewhat amusing that some people define “manhood” as the ability to “beat people up”. My mother taught me to believe that manhood was defined by ones sense of honesty, loyalty, and honor, and how they lived by those ideals. My mother may have passed on, but the ideals she taught me have not.

  • Joseph Philbert

    Wait … how the… this guy with all the mouth and bravado has deleted all the messages and shutdown his personal profile … WOW
    #theskyhasfallen

  • Anon.

    I bet it’s because his employer got an email about his comments on this page. 🙂