Prime Lens Photography in Rhyl, United Kingdom

Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/primelensphotography.uk
Tumblr: http://primelensphoto.tumblr.com/

Over the course of the history of this blog, things have changed as I see areas that need tweaking.  I’ve changed the formatting of how I do the post quite a few times.  I’ve added comments.  I added Facebook, Twitter and Google +.  Some things work and some things aren’t working as well as they could.  One of those things that aren’t working as well as they could is the comments being open indefinitely as things tend to drag out and turn into making things personal or just a place to screw off.  From now on the comments will be closed for a thread after 3 days at which point you will be able to email me with any updates that I will add to the listing as needed.  As with anything, we’ll see how it goes and if this is too long, long enough or needs to be longer.

I’m not using images from Prime Lens Photography’s website as it appears clear.

There are boudoir images below the cut so NSFW warning!!!

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  • Justin Case

    To be clear, It is NEVER alright to use another photographer’s work without their permission. Just because you neglect to put your watermark on them, by putting them on your BUSINESS page you are still claiming them as representation of your work which they are clearly not.

    Have some respect for the industry you’re trying to make money from, and for your clients, both potential and real.

  • Phoxy_Photog

    It sickens me more when they actually clone-stamp out the original watermark. That shows more intnet than download ans upload.

    By the way, could they think of a less-creative business name?

  • JD Montana
  • captain-confuzzled

    what is it with these people giving themselves 5 star reviews? (attachment)

    • Kristian Colasacco

      What’s even funnier is that it says “owner of Prime Lens Photography” right there next to his name. This guy is dumber than Rob Gronkowski’s nuts.

    • Marc W.

      Wait, he even named himself! That’s even more delusional than just giving yourself a 5 start rating without a comment.

    • You can’t fix stupid

      He has removed his reviews.

      • He now has less stars

        Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

  • You can’t fix stupid

    FB page is still up but with no notice to say that they are sorry. Okay I will steal images and then pretend that nothing has happened.

  • Dave Penrose

    I apologise for other peoples photos appearing on my FB Business Page. To be fair I had not indicated that they were my work, more meant as advertising examples for the advert category. I agree I should only use my own and will do from now on. I am not a dishonest person, just a bit cavalier and inexperienced in business. All images have been removed and ALL Images present on my site are solely the copyright of Prime Lens Photography. I have sacked my associate who had a large hand in this in my period of illness.
    They say ‘ imitation is the best form of flattery!! ‘ Regards, Dave

    • Helena

      What about this one? With HDWallpapersimages.com on the bottom right corner?

      • Dave Penrose

        Helena. Sadly despite several attempts, there seems to be a block on this last one getting deleted. Will keep trying

    • Justin Case

      Well, Mr. Penrose, this is your reputation now. You can continue to hedge and make excuses for what you have done (or what you allowed to be done in your name) or you can step up, be a good example and OWN WHAT YOU DID.

      Post publicly on your facebook page what is going on. Don’t make excuses. Don’t mislead people or try to redirect the blame. You say you are not a dishonest person, but using other people’s property without compensation is not honest in any way.

      Lastly, it’s pretty stupid to pour salt in the wound with that ugly quote: you did NOT imitate, you stole.

      • Dave Penrose

        I hear what everyone is saying and taken it all very seriously. I have rectified the situation to th best of my ability and appreciate th I’ll feeling being demonstrated. Apologies again and I will ensure th business is run better in future. Thanks for everyone’s input

    • Always blame the associate!

      Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

  • Justin Case

    You say you’ve taken all the comments seriously, but you haven’t heard what’s been said. Don’t waste your time here, use it instead to post to the people you’ve deceived in the place you’ve deceived them: on your business page.

    i am not one of the photographers whose work you used, but if I was I would be looking for a lot more than your flattery. And you can be sure my solicitor would be as well.

    You say you’re an honest guy, prove it.

    • chuck knuckles

      He hasn’t learned anything, except that a LOT of people are watching his crooked ass now.

      • Like always there is a vast difference between stolen work and actual work.
        Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

  • You can’t fix stupid

    If you are serious about photography you will do the right thing. Saying that you didn’t say that the photos were yours is not good enough. You are advertising as a photographer. People will look at your work and think that all photos are yours. You NEVER see any professional photographer say “This one is mine, this one is stock”
    Only show case what you , yourself have taken.

    As for the “blame it on the assistant” – old one that has been used over and over. You might have well said “Aliens came and took over my FB page etc” as that is far more believable.

    More people will respect you if you are just open and honest. By lying and passing the blame just doesn’t cut it. You have yourself to blame. Pack the that ego on a shelf. Post an apology. Learn from this and move on. Grow, study, read books or articles on photography.

    If it was any of my photos that you had taken and I saw the “imitation is the best form of flattery!!” I would have hit the roof. No that is my hard work. That is my hours of learning. That is me. You have stolen a piece of me.

    • Unfortunately he may never get it

      Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

  • chuck knuckles

    You say you have read the comments, and have “done as much as you are able”.

    Are you physically unable to apologize? NOT an apology here. You didn’t cheat defraud or steal from any of us (yet). Apologize where you did the damage, on FB!
    A public apology. Don’t you think your customers, future customers, and people you stole from deserve it?

  • Guinness rules

    What about you claiming to be an L for the MPA and BIPP? Are you actually a member? Do you have an L?
    If not your also claiming to your customers that your something when your not.
    You knew what you were doing, you were deceiving your customers.
    This is complete false advertising, shame on you

    • Melinda Potter

      MPA’s search is down at the moment, but I highly doubt you’ll find him listed there as a member either

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        If I did the search properly, nothing came up for the last name of Penrose. I also tried a generic name (Smith), and lots of photographers came up, so the search seems to be working.

  • Victim

    Hello Dave,

    You ‘stole’ my work and you pretended it was yours. I’m not bothered that you did that because your skill level is so far below mine that you are screwing yourself over by doing what you did.

    I have worked as a photographer for nearly ten years. The jobs in my first year were all free. I didn’t earn a penny but i did earn a lot of photographic knowledge. The next year, i made £4k and the year after that, 6k. We spent £25 per week on food shopping for us and our son for two years so that I could build a career in photography. I now make an OK living. I’m a celebrated photographer, i get published in magazines and i have an amazing client list. Even now, I don’t earn enough. I have massive overheads and would be better off working as I once did as an assistant manager in a small shop. It’s not cool to use other photographer’s work to make money that you don’t deserve. If you pretend to be better than you are, you don’t deserve your bookings, nor the money they generate.

    Do one of these things:

    – Go work in a shop to make money

    – Go on a studio photography course, learn some technical skill and use the images you take to sell yourself

    – Work for free for 6 months and see if you can learn enough to build your business yourself.

    • Bra…..Vooo
      Slow clap!

      Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

    • Justin Case

      Thank you. I think you speak for many, many people.

      For myself, the struggle was longer but was offset by the enjoyment I felt learning something new and the satisfaction of creating something that was unique and belonged to me.

      Besides the nasty selfishness of taking someone else’s hard work and claiming it to be theirs, I will never understand these thieves who think they can skip the hard work and still have any understanding of what a REAL photographer goes through on their way to becoming successful.

      It’s their loss. Don’t let them make it yours. Change your screen name: you really don’t sound like a ‘victim.’

  • Helena

    Yes, I am holding off charging until I feel I can consistently take good enough photos to warrant it. I’ve given myself until my daughter starts school (2018) to get good enough and do City & Guilds. 🙂

    • Marc W.

      Same here. I believe someone is a “professional photographer” when they can produce good _consistent_ results. I’m almost there.

  • Justin Case

    Well, it’s been days now since this first came out but still no public acknowdge to his clients or the photographers whose work he used without right or compensation.

    Mr. Dave Penrose of Prime Lens Photography Kimmel Bay, Wales UK wants us to believe he is an honest person. And yet:

    • he used other peoples work to deceive his customers.
    • he claims ‘an associate’ was responsible, yet even a quick glance at the images above shows that he posted from his personal account as well as his Prime Lens Photography account
    • he not only reviewed his own company with 5 stars, he also had his wife give his ‘boudoir session’ a five-star review as if she was a paying customer. (His reply is either misleading or schizophrenic, I’ll let you be the judge)
    • he prominently claims a Licenciate from the British Institute of Professional Photography (LBIPP) and Master Photographers Association yet wants us to believe that as a professional photographer he had no idea that it wasn’t legal practice to use the work of others without permission, credit or compensation.

    We all make mistakes. (I don’t believe trying to trick your customers or claim work you didn’t do is a mistake, but I’m willing to give the benefit of the doubt). As someone pointed out already, how we deal with our mistakes (or lapses inethical behavior) says at least as much.

    I ask you Dave Penrose, does your behavior since you got caught really reflect who you want to be? Does it really look like the behavior of an ‘honest man’?

    • dafuq? Like you say Justin, everyone is entitled to make mistakes. You earn a lot more respect by holding your hands up, saying sorry and making sure it doesn’t happen again.

      Trying to excuse it, sweeping it under the carpet, or just burying your head in the sand hoping it will all go away doesn’t do anyone any favours, least of all yourself.

      I think I’m going to upload The Beatles’ White Album and try to convince everyone that I wrote it…. ;0)

    • You can’t fix stupid

      Is seems like Dave Penrose (David Penrose) owner of Prime Lens Photography is a very dishonest person. He has been given ample time to do right and yet he refuses. Too bad. Does he really think that this will just disappear if he ignores it?

    • Photo Stealers

      The BIPP confirms he is not a member, nor L.

      • Melinda Potter

        While searching, I found a blog write up from a photographer that earned a fellowship with BIPP. She was so proud. Talked about the difficulties, the longevity, the work behind her accomplishments. How it all felt surreal to her. This man just cheapened what she has accomplished. He says it’s worthless, only letters, and it means nothing, by what he has done and continues to do. This man is NOT a photographer, and most likely never will be. Not because he will never learn the skills involved, or never run a successful business, but because he cannot see.

  • Melinda Potter

    We aren’t the ones you need to be speaking with. Do me a favor and click on the “original source” links above and reach out to those your stole from. Pay your invoices, make amends, do right by them. Yes, it would be lovely if you also made things right with your family, friends, and clients, but going by your statements here I doubt you would be able to be completely honest about duping them, and instead turn things around by belittling the importance of what you did, and/or making it out so that you are somehow the victim. So please! Don’t even attempt to apologize publicly, it won’t be done with the best intentions at heart, but ONLY to try to make your unethical, illegal practices look better in the eyes of your audience. Please, don’t do it. It would be beyond insulting to even attempt to, and I’m truly grateful you say you are unable to do so

  • Michael Goolsby

    Dave Penrose of Prime Lens Photography Kimmel Bay, Wales UK…

    Dave, Dave, Dave… (sigh)

    Ok, so you stole some photos. Nothing new here. People do it all the time and for their own reasons. My guess is that you wanted to branch out to stuff like boudoir but didn’t want to go through the actual LEARNING or EARNING part. And to that, I might ask: Obviously, you had no problem stealing from others, or showing that work to your own potential clients. But did you ever think how your client might feel who trusted you enough not only to hire, but to also allow themselves to be in such a VULNERABLE position with those types of portraits, believing that they were in capable hands, when instead you were not only inexperienced in that sort of thing, but willing to LIE about it, too? Boudoir photography is not quite the same as, say, a book author’s jacket portrait. Most boudoir subjects are non-professionals, getting such portraits made for very personal reasons. For many, such sessions are not easy. They MUST be able to TRUST their photographer. Well, you just shit on that.

    When you were “outed”, you came here and professed regret. Fine. That’s ONE thing to do. Of course, WE are not the ones you need to apologize to. It’s a bit like you are thinking of us as the police, and are only interested in placating us because it was here that you were outed. Wrong. You need to make things right with your VICTIMS… the photographers you stole from and the clients you mislead. In fact, saying anything to us is largely worthless. Until you make things right with your victims, you haven’t done shit.

    You did, in fact, what many other stealers have done in the past here: blamed others. Your “associate” is responsible? Sure. As long as your “associate’s” identity is kept a secret, your claim that they are responsible doesn’t mean shit.

    So, you’re a Licenciate from the British Institute of Professional Photography (LBIPP) and Master Photographers Association (LMPA)? Then why do they have no record of your membership? Or were those claims just more loads of shit?

    Your WIFE gave you a five-star review? Please. What a crock of shit.

    And in this midst of all this, you come here and claim that “I am not a dishonest person”. You’re not? Maybe you need someone to explain what “honesty” really is. Because one thing is pretty clear: when it comes to honesty, you clearly don’t know SHIT.