Pretty Pics by Jen in Clermont, Florida aka Perfectly Beautifully Made Photography

Website: http://mrsfernandez777.wix.com/prettypics

Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/prettypicsbyjen

New Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Perfectly-Beautifully-Made-Photography/235334826670789

This caught a fan’s eye and they submitted the website to me and sure enough, it was chock full of stolen images.  The Facebook isn’t as bad but the ads for sessions have some stolen images as well.

Update 03/22/2014 @ 12:20AM

The excuses are starting.

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Update 03/22/2014 @ 9:00AM

Jen has made some comments (below) and you’re free to read them.  The website is up along with the Facebook still.  She claims to have removed “everything” but some images remain and a couple I missed on the first pass I’m adding to the post.

 

Update 03/24/2014 @ 8:00AM

She made a new page for her photography business the same day she was outed here.  It’s above.

 

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PS:  In most states it’s illegal to have photography sessions with live animals without certain permits. 

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  • Robin Pollard Haws

    I’m dying laughing over her comments on facebook. Apparently her clientele is so special that she cannot show photos she’s actually taken, only ones that are similar to her style.

    • Photo Stealers

      Oh lord, I missed that.

      • Robin Pollard Haws

        She replied twice to comments on her page and is now deleting them as soon as they are posted.

        • MPR1776

          Well she has an Abercrombie & Fitch pic amongst her boudoir pics

          • Jessica S.

            Her lame excuse: A&F STOLE MY PICS!!111!1111111111111111111111!!!!

          • Joseph Philbert

            That would be classic

          • MPR1776

            Oh yes, am so sure that happened, talk about being delusional…plus there was a big to-do over that ad campaign, A & F got hammered for that.

          • Just a Girl

            Just like the one that had Mark Zuckerbergs wedding picture

    • Gemma

      Even the illusive private bunnies! They can’t have their identities released either.

      • Just a Girl

        Noooooooooooo NOT THE BUNNIES…. 🙁

        • Gemma

          She’s pulled the bunnies too 🙁 Cept for the ones she’s using her in advertising.

          • Marc W.

            Goo, bunnies are evil!

    • peaceetc

      Well, isn’t she a special little snowflake? It seems like there was another one profiled on here who tried to use an excuse like that, but I can’t remember who it was.

      Hey, Pretty Pics photographer person, if you’re reading this — even if what you said was true (and it isn’t… your work doesn’t even come close to comparing to what you stole), it’s still illegal and still stupid. Photos are copyrighted, and you can’t take what isn’t yours. And you sure as heck can’t use others’ work in an effort to make money. There are laws against it for a very good reason.

      So stop making excuses, take down everything which isn’t yours, and grow up. Seriously, we’ve seen it all so many times, and you’re just a minor blip on the radar.

      • Just a Girl

        I THINK her FB page has less content then it did 30 minutes or so… I only perused it quickly and then got busy… but I’m fairly certain shes even pulling content off the FB page…

        • Photo Stealers

          It does, all of her ads for her mini sessions are gone.

      • Kristin

        I’m crying I’m laughing so hard “special little snowflake ” . I’m going to copyright that phrase and pass it as my own to protect my rights

    • Michael Goolsby

      Problem is, this girl’s style is all over the place. In fact, it is exactly as diverse as the styles of all the different photographers she has stolen from.

      I see that the yet-another-free-Wix-site is already down. That was FAST! Can’t wait to hear the name of the assistant who is to blame.

  • jbdisq

    Do her makeup photos count? Found the close up of the eyebrow plucking referenced here:http://www.yusrablog.com/category/hair-removal/page/5/ but I don’t see any credit given.

    Also highly suspect the photo on her personal page with the girls in front of a window that looks like a catalog photo.

    Thanks for everything you all do (sorry, I just take photos for hobby so I know little to nothing about editing..or much of anything…but I’m very slowly learning from my photographer friends and this page).

  • Just a Girl

    HACKED excuse! Oooh what a sob story! *sniff sniff*

  • Photo Stealers

    Here come the excuses!

    • peaceetc

      Yes! She was hacked by meanies who left comments on her public Facebook page! I don’t know how that is hacking, of course, but I’m clearly not as smart as she is. She’s reported the meanies to Facebook because they are meanies who are mean.

    • Gemma

      REALLY? Her clients are valued above other peoples clients? Why? She can nab/grab from any place she pleases, to use for her own advertising, and to deceive potential customers to protect her cliental without giving ANY thought to other photographers clients privacy? She might really want to sit and think about her statement. Little alone admitting in print “The images on my wix.com site are not all mine”. Admission of guilt right there!

      • Just a Girl

        The photos are COMPARABLE to hers….. I think not! LOL

    • Just a Girl

      She deleted this Status Update.

    • Joseph Philbert

      Surprise!!!!!

    • Joseph Philbert

      Comparable work???? And privacy of her clients …. Sure we all do this … Oh oh plus she was hacked..

      • Cinobite

        I’ve shot for a number of celebrities 😀 And I have to sign a waiver saying I won’t use them online etc…. so I don’t, I use the other images I took that I can show online 😛

  • Just a Girl

    her wedding and Boudoir photos are so dark…. What is with the crazy shadows.

  • Helena Handbasket

    100% on the live animals, too. But not only is it illegal, it’s extremely cruel to the animals. Putting them in the hands of babies/toddlers/children with no idea how to handle them, and can easily hurt them is just mean. I never understood the need for live animals for Easter shoots.

  • Alez

    Now her Facebook and Wix website are down.

  • soni b

    If images are offered for FREE use on a website builder, is it wrong to use them?? There was no ownership claimed on anything. Would Google be accused as well for all the images they supply for use? The images used had NO watermarks. There was no intentional stealing. In fact, a photographer NICELY sent a PRIVATE MSG to remove a specific photo and it was immediately done….problem solved. Why the need for bashing, slander, and continued negative comments to ruin someone’s business? If there are clients whose identities you cannot use, why is it wrong to find images that are very similar to yours, as an example of what one’s work would look like? Especially if that’s stated upfront on your site???! It’s not for lack of skill in your own work by any means. Everyone has their own style(s) and there’s no need to knock someone else’s down.

    • Lori Hoddinott

      good try. you present others work as your skill level, you are misleading clients of your skill. your business is built on smoke & mirrors and other people’s hard work. shame on you.

      • soni b

        I’m very good at what I do, thank you. I wish I could share most all my photos, but I can’t….I’m not complaining however because I’m well taken care of

        • Joseph Philbert

          No your work sucks compared to the stolen images you called “comparable”

          • soni b

            your opinion, and that’s fine

          • barque

            Honestly soni, you do not have any pictures that approach the quality of the stolen photos. It’s not just Joseph’s opinion. You really need a mentor or someone who is really good at photography and whom you trust, just take a look at your best work, and then compare side by side to the photos you’ve stolen. He or she will easily see the difference. After all is said and done, you have attempted to take a short-cut to success. It doesn’t work that way.

          • soni b

            I wish there was a shortcut!!! You guys have NO idea of my life or sacrifices to be so judgemental

          • barque

            You tried to create a shortcut. And your sacrifices don’t matter when it comes to whether or not you cheated. You cheated and if you want to blame it on your rough life, feel free. Many of us have it rough and we still value honesty and hard work. I would rather be broke and honest and be able to sleep at night than to be mildly successful at defrauding people. Honestly how do you sleep at night? That’s a real question. I don’t get it.

          • soni b

            very soundly, but by the grace of God, and that’s all that matters

          • Just a Girl

            Thats a real shame….

          • soni b

            there’s no shame in that…sorry. I have a clear conscience & know my character….and it doesn’t include the descriptions “thief, liar, person who sucks” etc.

          • Just a Girl

            yeah, thats becoming more apparent. And your conscious should actually be making you ill cause until you start cleaning house and taking some personal responsibility…. You arent very high on the God loves all the little children list. 🙂

          • soni b

            you wanna disrespect me, that’s one thing…but i’d be careful when making a mockery of God

          • Just a Girl

            No mockery here. Truth.

          • Just a Girl

            By the way… before you accuse me of mocking God…I live a God fueled life. I dont lie, I dont cheat, I accept personal responsibility and willingly admit when I am wrong and I definitely don’t steal. Hows your God fueled life? Probably running low, huh.

          • soni b

            if that’s the kind of life you lead, then i’m happy for you….but your words don’t seem to reflect that.

          • Just a Girl

            I’m not the one who stole a bunch of photos, slapped them on a website (OR kept a template from a website) and have presented myself to be anything but who I am. YOU did all of that and more…WHY? cause…..

            Pretty Pics by Jen in Clermont, Florida is a photo thief!

          • Joseph Philbert

            Yep pretty much

          • Cinobite

            Your actions CERTAINLY don’t reflect that of a christian

          • Cinobite

            LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL fucking hilarious. A thief and a liar is telling us that “god” won’t like us lol.

          • Cinobite

            Good job that you’re not a judge right

          • CrackerJacker

            There’s Jesus/God for your bingo cards, kids!

          • Cinobite

            Come on, medical issues or family illness, that’s all I need now to win!

          • Joseph Philbert

            There is a shortcut … It’s called photo stealing… but it’s a false one

          • Joseph Philbert

            Actually I was factual… but you have Roses Colored glasses on … I suggest you remove them.

        • Just a Girl

          No.. really… you aren’t. I’m not a professional photographer and I would never ever think to sell MY photos..and I spend alot of time with my camera… I wouldn’t think to sell yours either… Have you ever read Understanding Exposure or any of Scott Kelby’s books? You may want to back up a lot of steps and restart there… and maybe in a few years after some more reading and probably some mentoring say you are “ok” at what you do. I mena that with all respect. Looking back… the photos I took a few years ago… suck compared to what I take now.. and now.. aint all that spectacular. We tend to cloud our real capabilities based on ego and in your case ( NOT mine) the chase for the almighty dollar.

          • soni b

            I only go by what my clients tell me and their reactions, and what does it for me is hearing them say “wow, thank you so much” or “i actually like the way I look” etc. etc. Yes, I have been financially blessed by the clients I have, most of whom are very wealthy, but I’m not trying to chase the dollar…just pay a mortgage & put my 6 y/o through school

          • Just a Girl

            OH come on….. SERIOUSLY??!?!?! How many times have you looked at a friend who has just shown up with a hideous haircut and said “Oh that looks good on you” People lie.. people lie ALOT when they are embarrassed by what they are looking at. Seriously… READ Understanding Exposure before you EVER take another Boudoir or wedding shot. Don’t even take a picture of Ken and Barbie before you read that book….

          • soni b

            would you pay for work you thought wasn’t good enough?

          • Joseph Philbert

            No but when you use images that you never owned or licensed that look better than your current level of expertise its called FRAUD.
            Its wrong ethically … you take the money and give sub-par work compared to the “comparable” work you used for an example.

          • Just a Girl

            I may be out of the norm here… BUT I paid for my Wedding Photographer with a deposit to keep the date and the day of the wedding he was paid in full for his services…whats your plan?

          • soni b

            I take a deposit to hold the date & get the balance after they have viewed their edits on a shared page

          • Cinobite

            Can you explain what you mean by “viewed their edits on a shared page”? So you don’t meet your clients, personally give them a viewing and personally deliver their prints?

          • Cinobite

            Key phrase “THOUGHT”, your clients THOUGHT the pictures on your website were yours when they weren’t. They paid for what they THOUGHT they were getting, not what they knew they getting.

          • Cinobite

            hehe, I’m guessing that you are charging your “wealthy clients” about $20 a session 😛

        • barque

          Yes you are very good at faking being a real professional photographer. Good that you are well taken care of, very few of us have well-respected cardiologist spouses to pay the bills while we try to fake our way to the top.

          • soni b

            what are you even talking about??? how do you know I even have a spouse to lean on??? wow

        • Amanda

          No. No you’re not. Sorry sweetheart.

        • Cinobite

          No, you really aren’t. I mean, for a start you’re running a “business” through facebook and a wix website using stolen images. You have no domain, probably use a generic email address like gmail or ymail or comcast. Which leads me to believe that you don’t have insurance or have an understanding of your state tax requirements.

          THAT, is not being very good at what you do. Unless, of course, you meant you’re good at stealing photos, but you’re not good at that either because you got caught.

          • Cinobite

            lol, now your site is back up and I can see it, you do, in fact, use a gmail address just as predicted. Thank you for not disappointing us with your complete lack of professionalism

    • Just a Girl

      if you have used someone elses work without specifically asking them – that’s stealing. Calling you on it is NOT slander. Its truth. When you remove a watermark from someone elses work that is stealing. Calling you on it is NOT slander. Its truth.. There is no excuse in the world for posting someone elses hard work without getting express permission from the owner. Doesnt matter if you dont know who it is. Dont use it. Its actually pretty simple. If it aint yours… no touchy touchy! You need to retract what you posted on your Facebook.. THAT was a lie. Your page was NOT hacked and you DID indeed steal photos…. seeeee they are all up top this page. WHY should anyone NICELY ask you to remove them? They werent yours in the first place… the last thing you really deserve is NICE. Like someone commented on yoru Facebook…. the storm has just begin. You could head that storm off with some personal responsibility and accountability on your part to your clients.

      • soni b

        I DIDN’T remove ANY watermarks….there were none!! Most of the images, as I said, were offered by wix when creating the site. So, NO, I will not admit to something I DIDN’T do. Any questionable images have already been deleted from both fb & wix, including the ones above.

        • Joseph Philbert

          I smell bullshit … You are a liar and a thief.. 90% of those images stolen are not wix default!

          • soni b

            go on the site and see for yourself!

          • soni b

            no need for profanity

          • barque

            Sometimes there is a need for profanity. It helps punch up the point. The fact is, soni, you didn’t just leave some wix photos from the template on your site. You uploaded photos to both your site and your facebook page which were not yours, in an attempt to fool people into thinking it is your work. This is indisputable. There is no reason to keep arguing about this. You should just apologize and go away. Good luck with whatever other career path you choose.

          • soni b

            I DID apologize and DID remove the photos but am STILL being targeted & threatened….explain that!

          • Just a Girl

            you apologized? to who? When? All you have done thus far is play a victime, did the Hacker excuse, the Spam excuse and now this… Theres no apology in any of that…

          • soni b

            I explained my side and apologized for any misunderstanding or perception that I was trying to steal the work of others…..isn’t that taking responsibility???

          • Joseph Philbert

            Misunderstanding … figures.

          • Just a Girl

            You explained that to who? Your Facebook Page where you made everyone else out to be a villain? (By the way… you DO owe those people an apology too.. they were speaking the truth and were actually nice about it) To the photographer on your Facebook page who called you out for using her work? WHEN did you do it?

          • soni b

            when did i do what?

          • Just a Girl

            Keep up! 🙂 when did you explain your side and apologize…

          • soni b

            I apologized in the PM she sent me & removed her photo

          • barque

            bwah hah hah! You apologized in a private message to someone who pointed out you used her photo. That’s not exactly what we mean when we say you should apologize. We mean you should publicly apologize for a. stealing photos b. pretending they are yours c. for accusing people of “hacking” your facebook and lying about you. See my post below. A real apology includes acknowledging what you did, not calling it a misunderstanding or characterizing it as a mis-perception. Seriously I’m losing hope here that you will ever understand. Well, at least I can rest easy knowing this entire article and conversation are going to remain posted here for posterity, and people can come here to see the evidence and make up their own minds about you.

          • Just a Girl

            OOh I think this needs ANOTHER web crawl bump… just based on her lack of understanding.alone…

            Pretty Pics by Jen in Clermont, Florida STEAL PHOTOS

          • Joseph Philbert

            Her name and business with me on Google from this day forward… any future client that searchers for her will see this post on Google on the top.

          • soni b

            thank you Joseph

          • soni b

            yes they can

          • Cinobite

            I don’t think that she’s every going to understand, in fact, I’d be that she’s been creating a new facebook page to carry on regardless.

          • barque

            Lol, explained your side, which is a denial that you stole anything and a lie that you merely left some wix template photos on your site. And you apologized for “any misunderstanding”, not for stealing photos. And for the “perception” that you were trying to steal the work of others. LOL again. If you posted a photo, the copyright to which you did not own, and the rights to publish you were not granted, you stole it. And you did it for dozens of photos. All set to look like you were the photographer. That’s not a misunderstanding, and we don’t have a false perception. You really don’t get it, do you!

          • soni b

            was my name on any of the pics? did i say i took them or that they were being used as examples?!

          • barque

            If you post them to your site you are infringing the copyright of the owner of that copyright. That’s for starters. It does not matter if you put your mark on it or not. Furthermore, posting them to your site with no clear reference as to whom the real photographer is, implies they are yours. You didn’t say, ‘this is a great shot from so and so and I think he/she captured the sensuality of the moment perfectly.’ But just so you know, even if you do that you are doing it without the permission of the copyright holder and you are infringing copyright. I don’t think you understand the gravity of this.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Your name on the images is IRRELEVANT.and so many others have said the same…
            The normal “joe” who goes on your site will ALWAYS assume the images that are there are in fact yours.
            I mean really do you have a brain?

          • barque

            I don’t think she does.

          • Cinobite

            Yes you did, you posted on your facebook page telling people to go to the website to see your work.
            I think you’ve surpassed CJ as the most deluded photo thief, at least he kind of came around after a few weeks.

          • barque

            To answer your question, no, that’s not taking responsibility. Take responsibility would take the form of, “yes, I apologize for fooling my clients and friends. I posted photos which were not mine, in an attempt to make it look like I had a nice portfolio of work. I did this instead of going out and taking a year or two or four to actually learn to create all this imagery myself. I violated the copyright of others doing so. I misrepresented my work and I probably got some business through this misrepresentation. There is no excuse. For all this I apologize.”

          • soni b

            My FB page is ALL MY OWN! And that’s what started it for me!

          • Just a Girl

            OOOH.. sweetie…. businesses move to Facebook… Facebook rarely moves to a business.. successfully.

          • soni b

            in my case it did

          • barque

            mm hmm.

          • Just a Girl

            How’d that work out for ya? OH it didnt..as we all see now.

          • Cinobite

            LOL no it didn’t, fuck, has your brain been on holiday while this has all been going on?

          • barque

            Really? Those bunnies on your add are not yours. And what does it matter if your facebook is totally clean if your website was dripping with stolen imagery? Really, come on, stop being obtuse. We can go round and round all night over whether or not you barely only kind of sort of infringed just a couple or few copyrights on your facebook page. Who cares? You KNOWINGLY UPLOADED CONTENT OWNED BY OTHER PHOTOGRAPHERS AND MADE IT APPEAR TO BE YOUR OWN. Done. One time or one hundred times, doesn’t matter. You did it.

          • soni b

            AGAIN, I DIDN’T KNOWINGLY CLAIM ANYTHING TO BE MY OWN, WHICH IS WHY I WROTE THE DISCLAIMER

          • barque

            You knowingly uploaded photos to your site which were not yours, and you did not make it clear at all that they were not yours. Any reasonable individual coming to your site or reading your ad would assume they were yours. IF you had any kind of a disclaimer on your site, it was not visible, and it was not on every photo. And to take it a step further, even if you said of every single photo “this is not mine, it is just an example!” you are still infringing copyright. Why? Because you can not use someone else’s creative work to promote your own. It’s a well understood rule. It’s not complicated. Perhaps you should check with a copyright attorney to truly understand this concept, because, I must say, I am super surprised at how unable to grasp the concept you appear to be. “I didn’t CLAIM those photos” is irrelevant. You used them. You didn’t buy or have granted the right to do so. Get it? At all?

          • soni b

            like I said…I am relatively new at the real business end, and NO, did not understand that to be the case. BUT, the way you have explained it does make sense, I admit. I do get it.

          • barque

            I am glad I read this before going to bed. I have removed my remark questioning your intelligence. Sorry for that, and I am glad to see you are seeing what we are referring to. NOW I am going to bed, and I wish you all the best, considering how difficult you’ve made everything for yourself going forward.

          • Just a Girl

            if you FINALLY do “get it” you can bet that everyone on here who “got it” long before you is gonna be waiting ever so patiently for that real apology and explanation to show up on your Facebook and website. And for your website/Facebook to reappear with nothing but work that has come from your personal camera.

          • Cinobite

            No you don’t.

          • Darren Bradley

            Are you referring to that “disclaimer” that you wrote after you were caught? Because I don’t see any such disclaimer on any of the screenshots of the photos you were posting as your own previously.

            Oh, and can you please explain how you were hacked?

          • soni b

            IT WAS THERE FROM DAY ONE

          • barque

            Where?

          • soni b

            UNDERNEATH MY NAME & INFO ON THE BOTTOM

          • barque

            For starters if this is true it does not even remotely give you permission to use those photos. See my post below. This whole conversation is a joke. I am going to bed.

          • Cinobite

            I don’t know, I think she’s right. I mean I filled my landscape business photography page with pictures Ansel Adams took, but it’s ok because I said they weren’t mine in a tweet I sent last year…….. o_O

          • Just a Girl

            Where? YOU have access to the website/FB log in and lets see a screen shot.. just drop into Dropbox and post the link

          • Photo Stealers

            You wrote the disclaimer after you were caught

          • Cinobite

            You posted on your facebook page telling people to go to the website to see your work. Are you being this fucking stupid on purpose or does it come naturally?

          • MPR1776

            See my screenshot below with the Abercrombie & Fitch image you had in your boudoir section until I commented on how you stole that image too before you say your FB is all your own.

          • Cinobite

            More lies, more bullshit. This just adds to the case against should one of the photographers bring court action.

          • Just a Girl

            I don’t think she does get it it…. From some of the comments shes trying but its kinda like someone is knocking on the front door and shes answering the back door saying ” HEllllllo”

          • Justin Case

            uh, no that is not accepting responsibility it is deflection. As someone who talks a lot about god and being blessed, I would think those things should be familiar concepts to you.

          • Rebecca Coyle

            That’s funny, I haven’t received my apology yet. I’d expect you to do the right thing and seek out the people you have wronged to actually apologize privately rather than post a blanket statement full of excuses. Own it and make it right. Jesus would want you to.

          • soni b

            I AM SORRY

          • Kristin

            I have yet to receive an apology. And since it was so easy for someone else to contact all the original owners of the work you stole from, it would be just as easy for you to reach out to each one personally. They even posted all of our websites for you! Be thankful you aren’t getting sued and are walking away with a slap on the hand like a child, with your childish attempt at “apologizing”. It’s an insult you claim the stolen work was comparable to your own, it’s an insult you hid behind lies of hacking or receiving permission or getting from wix, it’s an insult you would put a disclaimer on your website that your images are not your own to protect the rights of your clients (my image is wedding details- makes no sense!) , and it’s an insult to small businesses everywhere that you think you are above the law and can cut corners to gain a larger clientele and violate copyright laws. I do to care how new you are, it’s the oldest excuse in the book. As a child you are taught about plagiarism. You KNOW ripping off images from other sites and put onto yours to gain clients is illegal. Stop hiding behind excuses, and sincerely apologize to every single person you stole from who are the real victims. It’s big girl panty time.

          • Cinobite

            For the love of god sue her or send something official!! Too many of these thieves do this with no consequences apart from a little internet humiliation

          • Joseph Philbert

            I predict a few things …just like others have done when caught by PS.
            1. Deny deny deny Deny deny deny Deny deny deny Deny deny deny
            2. Site has been hacked
            3. I made a mistake
            4. My site designer did it or the butler, second shooter, etc, etc
            5. It was Wix fault
            6. It was a low point in my life
            7. I going to commit suicide
            8. I am on medication
            9. I purchase the images from a stock site.
            10. I have/had cancer (this is very popular)

            Oh and the ever faithful “Jesus”

          • soni b

            He is ever faithful, and if He is for me, of whom shall I fear? NO ONE

          • MPR1776

            You forgot a commandment then…’Thou shalt not steal’

          • Cinobite

            Oh christ (no pun intended) here it comes. Please tell me you have medical issues because then I’ll win the PS Bingo!

          • Photo Stealers

            You forgot the dying family member

          • Cinobite

            hehe yeah the medical issues haven’t come up yet!
            For what it’s worth, about 6 months after I setup my company, I suffered from severe depression and had a clinical mental breakdown whilst on the other side of the world…. guess what, I still had to go to work and I still managed to not steal other peoples work.

          • barque

            “targeted” how?
            “threatened” how?

          • Cinobite

            I’ll explain it, it’s because you still don’t think you did anything wrong, you still keep denying everything and talking shit.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Tell me how many images are yours in this collage you made.
            Then tell me how you feel using some one else image to represent work you dont have the skills to create.

            Or can I use a picture of a BMW but sell hondas.

          • soni b

            which collage?

          • soni b

            EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE IS MINE, TY VERY MUCH!

        • Joseph Philbert

          Oh don’t worry we know you have proof that you won’t be able to show.

          • Cinobite

            Is that on the Bingo Card yet?

        • barque

          Deny deny deny. That always works.

        • Just a Girl

          So you opted to keep the WIX Templates and represent it as your work? You do know you dont have to keep them… fill them in with a pretty little weed instead of misrepresenting yourself. Still not only theft but like Joseph said… Misrepresenting yourself. You really do need to take some personal responsibility… your saying you didnt do it is not the right way..cause… yeah, ya did.

        • barque

          But actually Soni B, a serious comment: You can not use a photograph on your site without the permission of the copyright owner. That’s as simple as it gets. And it does not matter if there are watermarks or copyright claims printed on the photo. If you can not find the owner, then obviously you can not buy or be granted use rights, so you simply can not use it. Display only your own photos. With regard to your explanation that you just put up photos that are similar to yours to show what kind of work you can do… sometimes people have a skewed view of their own abilities. What I’ve seen of your actual photos on your facebook page, is NOTHING like the photos you used illegally. If you can not see the difference then you need to learn a little more about photography. That’s really here nor there because the actions you took are illegal.

        • MPR1776

          Here is what you get when you sign up for wix, it specifically says upload your own image does it not?

        • Photo Stealers

          Only 2-3 of those images were part of the WIX package.

        • Cinobite

          Prove it. Because that is what you will have to do in court.

        • Cinobite

          If you go into a shop and there isn’t a price on something, does that make it ok to just take it for free? Stop being a fucking idiot, you’re starting to piss me off.

    • Joseph Philbert

      It’s called misrepresentation look it up on google.. “REAL” proffesional photographers NEVER do this.. What was done is very deliberate .

      • soni b

        you might want to look up how to spell PROFESSIONAL

        • Joseph Philbert

          Oh I fixed it … was typing on my iphone … I am now on my computer, anything else?

          • Big Bhad Wolf

            Clearly your inability to spell professional correctly makes all of your points invalid. You might as well just give up and say it’s ok to use photos that aren’t yours to essentially falsely advertise your business, due to this horrible and purposeful crime that you have committed agains the professional spellers of the world.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Har har… Deflection makes me laugh.

          • Cinobite

            We forgive you Joseph, you’re new to the Internet and didn’t know ;P

        • Joel

          You might want to look up the definition of Photographer.

          • soni b

            Please read my most recent post

        • Cinobite

          You might want to adjust your attitude.

    • Just a Girl

      I’m curious… explain the cyber bullying??

      • soni b

        ummm….everyone bombarding my page with nasty comments & accusations all at once, from all over the place, even after being deleted, rather than private messaging me & going about it that way….defamation of character

        • Just a Girl

          Nope not defamation of character either. So far slander and def of character is ruled out. You used photos that were NOT yours. YOU are in the wrong. Lets not play the victim here. Keep it real! 🙂 Its called criticism..and from what I read… they were actually pretty nice and constructive.
          .

        • Just a Girl

          OH and… you posted stolen pictures on the internet and YOU want people to message your PRIVATELY??? Irony at its finest!

        • Joseph Philbert

          Its not going to stop either … do you have ANY idea how big the photography community is …this site gets over 1000 hits a day or more do the math in a few hours you will be a household name unless you come clean.

          • Photo Stealers

            Due to the article in The Guardian about Photo Stealers it’s a bit higher now, around 6K.

        • Photo Stealers

          I kept track of most of the comments and I didn’t see anything “nasty” besides posting the link and telling you that you shouldn’t steal and variations of that.

        • peaceetc

          It’s only defamation of character if what is being is said or written is knowingly untrue. If you’re going to accuse people of something, at least Google it first. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Defamation+of+character

        • Melinda Potter

          That’s not cyber bullying, that’s people standing up for what is right in the face of someone who has done very wrong. PLEASE do the right thing and clean up, contact all the photographers you stole from and make things right with them and their clients personally , and never do this kind of crap again. Afterwards you might want to look in your camera’s manual and learn how to use the darn thing. There’s no better feeling than the feeling you get when you DON’T feel the need to take other’s work and claim it as your own because your own work has improved by leaps and bounds, because of all the hard work and effort you have put into it. It’s called pride. Slow down and learn how to photograph if you want to be a photographer. If not, just stop all together and find something else. I can’t imagine how it must feel to have to cheat,steal, lie and pretend to be something you are not just to try to find some sort of gratification/satisfaction in life. So very sad. Time to self examine and reevaluate what you are doing, and start being honest with yourself and thought around you.

    • MPR1776

      Google does not supply those images for use, but for viewing, big difference there. http://www.copyrightlaws.com/creators/copyright-law-using-images-and-photos-from-google/

    • Photo Stealers

      The WIX template images I would give you a pass on BUT that was only two to three images of your entire portfolio. The rest of the images had the watermarks cropped out and funnily enough, no where else did I find those images cropped that exact way and THAT makes it intentional. It also gives the people you stole from additional fees they can seek should they decide to pursue a lawsuit. The disclaimer on the bottom says MOST of the images are yours so it doesn’t matter and in the court of law it’d be laughed out of court.

      • Cinobite

        Not to mentioned that “most” would have to equal, at least, 50.1%

      • Joel

        This confuses me: “But are used for reference to protect the identities of my clients”. So this is now a reason to show other peoples work on your page? So you are not protecting the identities of these other random people who didn’t pay you or release to you their photos?

    • peaceetc

      “Would Google be accused as well for all the images they supply for use?” Wait, what? The photos found on Google Images aren’t supplied for anything but as an index of what photos are out there. They are not a free repository, with or without watermarks. I wish Google would make that clearer, but they do have a disclaimer which says the photos may be subject to copyright.

      FYI, ALL photographs are copyrighted by the photographer the instant the picture is taken, unless they are being contracted by someone else with a specific claim on the copyright. The image has to be willfully placed into the public domain or licensed via the Creative Commons (of which there are a variety of licenses, and need to be heeded) to be anything else. Otherwise, you need express permission to use them in any context.

      This information is out there. All you need to do is look. And by the way… if you’re a professional photographer, why on earth would you even think about using others’ images? I don’t get that at all. People should see what YOU can do, not what other photographers can do. To do anything else is confusing and weird. I don’t care if WIX has templates with images on them… they aren’t yours. If someone goes to your site, they would reasonably expect the images they see are yours. Your disclaimer means nothing.

      • Justin Case

        this ‘google images used them’ excuse seems to come up a lot… seriously, is this a generational thing or just limited to fauxtographers? I mean, are people really THAT STUPID?

    • Jessica

      Jen, the thing is, my photo that you stole WAS watermarked. You cropped it out. That doesn’t count as not being watermarked. I get it that you messed up and now you’re working on rectifying it, but please don’t lie. It only makes the people you wronged want to pursue this situation, rather than forgive and move on.

  • Just a Girl

    BINGO cards.. we have hackers, victim and officially God!!

    • soni b

      you just delight in being nasty don’t you?? if I weren’t trying to make an effort at rectifying a situation, would I be on here talking to everyone who’s doing nothing but call me names, put me down, and cast stones???

      • Joseph Philbert

        We get nasty with thieves that continue to deny … we are VERY nice to those of admit and make amends. See how that works. Maybe you need to take the time and reflect. Better yet take the time and instead of looking at this post look at the other dozen or so post of other photo stealer’s that have been caught like yourself. Check to see how many of them have websites up still … then ask yourself why.
        Some have been sued …by the way how much money do you have in the back…??? You might want to get a lawyer if you keep this up.

        • soni b

          So might you….you don’t know me, I don’t know you….but I do know that I fight against being bullied or threatened and have very influential people who will help me do so. That’s what happens when you’re truly a good person….you get surrounded by VERY GOOD people who can move mountains if they have to

          • Joseph Philbert

            I never needed a lawyer for this type of stuff and you and many others have tried …but I wont stop you if you have a “Big Time Entertainment Lawyer” on retainer. My address is public I will be excepting your letter with great enthusiasm.

          • soni b

            don’t wanna go there if i don’t have to, just saying

          • MPR1776

            I find it amazing that the people who do the stealing are always the first ones yapping about calling a lawyer to sue those that bring their crimes to light or suing those whose images they stole. They can’t seem to grasp the fact that each and every screenshot will be brought into evidence against them should they decide to pursue that course of action and that each and every one of those infringements could cost them upwards of $25,000 a piece, if the image they stole was without registration.

          • Cinobite

            You won’t, because you know as well as everyone else that you have no claim, you know that YOU are the one who broke the law. No one else. YOU. Are you ready to be paying out $25,000 for EVERY image that you used that wasn’t yours?

          • Just a Girl

            Awwww poor Joseph… they always threaten to sue you… So many people just cant handle the truth you give! 🙂 Thank god you don’t ever say that you’ll leave the coffee on for the process server… it’d be some bad coffee by now!

          • Joseph Philbert

            Dont tell me you have friends that are cops… Right?

          • Cinobite

            Oh dear oh dear, VERY bad move.
            You are the only person who has broken the law here and right now you’re making things A LOT worse for yourself.

          • Alison

            Oh boy, did she just pull the “my dad can beat up your dad” card!?!?!?!?

      • Just a Girl

        *Ahem* I think I have been anything BUT nasty in my replies to you. That could easily change though. *shrug* doesn’t matter to me either way.

      • Big Bhad Wolf

        You are not a victim. The people who’s photos you stole, and the potential clients that you made think you were as good as the photos you stole are the victims. You got caught being a liar and a thief. Saying that isn’t putting you down, or being a bully. It’s being HONEST… something that someone who steals and lies cannot understand.

      • Cinobite

        You broke the law, you’re a criminal. Do you think we should be nice to criminals?

    • Just a Girl

      OH and add Im gonna sue to your cards..

      • soni b

        you’re gonna sue to my cards?? that doesn’t even make sense

        • Just a Girl

          Not to you it doesnt.. LOL

          • Guest

            She meant: Add “Lawsuit / Sue” to the bingo card. Nothing to do with you soni b. Nothing to do with you. 🙂

    • Justin Case

      can’t remember, is “I’m new at this” on there?

  • soni b

    Look…I am still learning & trying to grow my business and be successful at it. I was unaware of all the legalities that you’ve all brought to my attention. I was in no way trying to steal someone else’s work & pass it off as my own. I have removed all images from both FB & the wix site that are not my own. I intend to post the following on my FB page: “It has been brought to my attention, via a photography website, that the use of ANY images not owned by a photographer on his/her page could be considered infringement of copyrights. This includes images from Google, non-watermarked photos, web templates, etc. For this reason, I have updated both my FB & website to reflect my work only…nothing else. My apologies to photographers everywhere & I hope this information also serves useful for any other budding photographers who may be unaware. Good to know!” Is this sufficient to bring this nightmare to an end? I am sorry, I am new, I still have lots to learn & yes, I’m thankful for the knowledge you’ve all shared with me. I am going to take a look at those suggested books & welcome any other tips you may have. I just want to be able to continue doing what I love.

    • Amber Kost

      And now we have the “I’m New” card in the bingo mix! You should apologize to the actual photographers you STOLE from, not “photographers everywhere”. And in your post, try taking responsibility, instead of passing it off with an “oops, my bad”. You still can’t seem to take responsibility for your own actions. If those real photogs decide to sue, I sure hope all your “wealthy clients” sick around to pay all the judgements! You were WRONG! Admit it, and move on. No more excuses.

    • MPR1776

      Bleh, you have no intention of doing any such a thing or you’d already have done it. And you haven’t. Also noticed you removed the boudoir pic I commented on that you stole from Abercrombie & Fitch, btw, you do know that whilst you can remove the offenses you’ve committed and pretend it never happened in your own mind, screenshots live forever.

    • Michael Goolsby

      This is the first reasonable thing I have read from you.

      I, for one, am prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt and accept that your use of photos other than your own was out of ignorance. (I don’t, on the other hand, accept all of those other excuses about hackers and so forth, nor do I care for it when people start evoking their spiritual beliefs in these matters. But let’s move past such things.)

      However, you yourself have raised an important issue that deserves more consideration from you.Specifically, I am referring to your admission that you are new to and know little about the business side of things. Since, by accepting your “I didn’t know” apology, you should see that not understanding enough about this aspect of photography is what caused this whole mess for you in the first place, you should very much be asking yourself right now “Are there other aspects of this business which I have not anticipated that could become serious pitfalls in the future?” The answer to that question would be a resounding YES.

      As a 20 year veteran in this business, I have already witnessed numerous things said or done by you completely unrelated to the issue of improper photo usage that raise big red flags. One has already been mentioned to you: the use of animals. But that is only the tip of the iceberg. Just in a few posts and a brief perusal of you sites, I was able to identify at least half a dozen potential pitfalls, any one of which could result in the closure of your business.

      What is lost, I believe, on so many newcomers to the business today is the understanding that the business of photography is even more about business than photography itself! You may indeed be motivated by your “passion” for it. But the indulgence of passion became a mere side issue the moment you left the amateur world and turned what you loved into business. And this is why the VAST MAJORITY OF NEW PHOTOGRAPHY BUSINESSES DO NOT LAST BEYOND THEIR FIRST YEAR. In reality, they really fully became real businesses in the first place.

      I won’t comment on your photography as others have other than this caution: don’t depend on your clients for any technical insights or critiques. Our jobs are to please our clients, to be sure, but satisfaction and technique should not be confused. After 20 years, I have a good understanding of the things I can get away with if I have to, but which were not ideal for one reason or the other. Your own comments about your work suggest that you may not yet possess good self-evaluation skills. Your clients WANT to like your work, especially if they know you personally or were personally referred to you. And some, too, may they really even if they are not out of a sense of good manners. So, whatever the case, don’t take their comments – good or bad – as a critique.

      But more importantly, when you already admit that you are new to the business, and after already making such a big misstep as this one, maybe you should listen to the veteran pros who tell you that maybe you are moving a bit too fast and should step away for a bit to regroup as a business, seek out more knowledge about that part of it, and then re-approach it when you are more ready. You only get to use the I-didnt-know excuse once.) In the meantime, your photography will only get better, too. Otherwise, I am afraid that the path your are on right now is not one towards ultimate success.

      Good luck

      • Cinobite

        What this guy said.
        You never stop learning or finding out new bits of business regulations. But there are 2 types of regulations in business;

        The type you need in order to function and exist in society.
        And the type you learn through business

        By this I mean that no one would blame you for not knowing that you need a permit to photograph with animals, or that you should have your business registration displayed at the front of your property (UK). But there are things that you have no excuse for, you KNOW you have to pay tax, you KNOW that you don’t boil your clients baby in a saucepan and you KNOW that you don’t take other peoples images to pretend they are yours.

        If you work from home do you have the health and safety legislation up on the wall? Do you have a fire extinguisher to hand? Do you have a fire escape plan visible? A fully equipped first aid kit on site? A designated first aider? Many of these are legal requirements (UK). Do you have legally sound contracts? Public Liability insurance, electrical equipment test certificates, do you know about distance selling regulations?

        As Michael said, running a business is not just about taking photos, in fact it probably accounts for about 10% of it.

        • Michael Goolsby

          Many of the things you mentioned are considerations here in the US, too. There may not be enforcers searching out each infraction, but when an obvious one (such as animals or lack of location permit) are happened upon, these other infractions quickly reveal themselves. Next thing you know, you’re looking at more in fines than you ever made on that series of sessions. A great way to not only go out of business, but to never want to do photography again, too!

          • Cinobite

            Indeed. I don’t tend to have my business name in the window of my home office, I should really, but if someone came to check and I “forgot” they’d say “put a sign in”, that would be it.

            That’s what I mean, you have low impact infringements like that and then you have high impact infringements like tax avoidance and theft where there is no excuse

      • rm

        As usual Michael…very well said.

    • Cinobite

      Bullshit, you said on your facebook page “For samples of my work visit my full webpage”.

      You’re telling us that you were unaware that it is wrong to use other peoples work and claim it was your own? You were unaware that is wrong to steal? I’d hate to be your insurance company….. you DO have insurance… right?

    • Cinobite

      Sorry Judge, I’m new to this, I didn’t know that it was wrong to kill people.

    • Joseph Philbert

      Blah blah blah

    • Justin Case

      No, that really just shows me that you haven’t learned anything from this experience. You are still just trying to minimize the damage without acknowledging that you engaged in willfully deceitful behavior for your own personal gain, without any thought for the photographers or their models or clients.

      Here is a template for what I would like to see, just once, from anyone shamed on this site:

      1. A REAL APOLOGY. One that does not begin with “It has been brought to my attention…” or “I’m sorry if you…” or “to all the photographers of the world…”

      2. TRUE AND FULL ACCOUNTING OF WHAT YOU DID. This does not mean “I accidentally” or “my web designer/intern/boyfriend did…” Admit what you did: you used the hard work and skill of others for your own gain without acknowledgment or reimbursement of any kind.

      3. ADMIT WHY YOU DID IT. To get more clients (which hurts other hard working photographers in your area); to make people believe you are more experienced that you really are (which defrauds your clients); to make people believe you are the talented photographer behind the images (which is offensive to the years of hard work and training and true talent of the photographer who made the image)

      4. MAKE RESTITUTION. You took the time to steal these images, set up a website, do advertising, crop out watermarks or otherwise edit images. You can now take the time to find out who really did the work of creating the image and pay them for the usage. (Hell, Corey Ann has already done half the work for you!) Offer to make it up to any clients you have taken money from if they feel they have been in any way deceived by you.

      5. MAKE A CLEAN START. Start fresh. Use only your own work. Get a lawyer to explain things to you. Get a competent accountant both to protect you and your clients. Understand the business – Michael Goolsby has much excellent, level-headed advice. There are plenty of professional organizations you can join, or you can actually seek out someone who inspires you and learn from them. The photo world is full of wonderful people who often give unselfishly of their time.

      Yes, the price of internet infamy is that it is short-lived. But we do our part to keep people aware of those who have been shamed and go right back to fraudulent behavior.

      Until then, Pretty Pics by Jen in Clermont, Fla. , Jennifer Bates-Fernandez Photography, will remain a fraud.

    • peaceetc

      Please know the photographers from whom you stole have the legal right to seek monetary compensation for each copyright violation. You can legally be sued for each instance and the fines are rather sizable. You better hope the photographers don’t go that route, but frankly, I’m hoping they do. I’m tired of people who claim they “didn’t know” taking stuff that isn’t theirs. You want to show what you can do with your camera? Then go out there and do it. Do free sessions with friends and family, do what you have to do to be a professional photographer. Taking shortcuts will only hurt you (and, in this case, others) in the end. If I’m going to hire a photographer, I want to hire them based on what they can actually do, not what they wish they could do.

  • Justin Case

    Dear Ms. Bates-Fernandez.

    I am not going to go though the more than 100 comments and rebut everything point for point. You are obviously smart enough to put together arguments in your own mind which justify your behavior. However, the dozens of examples posted above clearly show that you have taken other people’s work – without recompense – and used it for your own financial gain. That constitutes a number of crimes, some illegal and others just unethical. No matter how you spin it, that is fraud.

    I don’t care that you posted a ‘disclaimer’ on your website. You are trying to make a living as a professional photographer. NO artist or creative professional uses the work of another – free templates, stock imagery, ‘google images’ – to show people what they ‘could do’ or give an example of their work. If it’s similar to your work, show your own work. Your six-year-old daughter wouldn’t try to get away with a claim like that.

    You have taken down both your website and your facebook page. To most here, that constitutes an admission of guilt. If you have done nothing wrong or it was an honest mistake, you have nothing to fear and you have a public forum to defend yourself.

    You don’t seem stupid to me, since you can at least spell correctly and have had someone proof-read your website from the little I can tell. So I find the majority of your excuses here disingenuous in the extreme. There is a concept in law know as ‘willful blindness.’ It is used to hold people legally liable if they SHOULD have known their behavior was illegal, even if they make the claim that they didn’t know. By going into business as a photographer, you should KNOW that you can’t do what you have done, and you certainly should educate yourself now that it has been pointed out to you. Stop making excuses and blaming others for their responses to your behavior.

    You owe everyone who has ever visited your website an apology, not just a private one to the single photographer who caught you stealing. Put your website back up with only your own images and make the home page a public apology and explanation of why you thought your behavior was alright.

    • soni b

      I never took my FB page down, nor my website, but rather removed any images that weren’t mine. Did you read my comment below?

      • Justin Case

        Are the links above not correct? Please post new ones:

        Wix site: 404 error, does not exist
        Facebook site does not load.

        Your letter is still hedging. Own up to your mistakes. You posted images to misrepresent yourself. It is clear as day.

        from your Facebook page: ‘For samples of MY WORK visit my full webpage” (emphasis added)

      • Amber Kost

        Did you read his comment above? He said right away he wasn’t going to read all the comments. Take the advice given here, and just hope your career has any semblance of a chance of survival.

        • Justin Case

          Actually Amber, I did read them. They were just so full of inaccuracies, hedges and religious justifications that I didn’t feel like going through them all individually. Fun is fun, but I do have other things to do!

          • Amber Kost

            I could spend hours on this site, but reading the same regurgitated excuses from the thieves is like banging my head on a brick wall!

      • Cinobite

        Really? Because your facebook page HAS gone and your Wix site HAS also gone.

        • Justin Case

          could be since we are both outside the U.S. that we can’t have access to her Facebook. Website is back up, still with stolen images, phony disclaimer and no apology

          • Cinobite

            Yeah I see the wix is back

      • Aubrie Ann

        There are still a few images on your site that are very obviously not yours… Sorry but it’s REALLY easy to spot the professional images that do not belong to you.

        • rm

          Soni… it is very obvious that you are just starting out and it’s OK to be just starting out. What isn’t OK is to show work from established photographers and have potential clients rely upon those images when choosing a photographer because they will not get that quality in their final image. It’s clear to me that in your own images you struggle a lot with focus, white balance, exposure and shadows. These are fundamental issues that need to be addressed before continuing to market your business, especially when shooting weddings. While not acceptable, portrait sessions CAN be re-shot, weddings cannot. What are you going to do when faced with a wedding indoors under poor lighting conditions? Based on your current work you seem to even struggle under some advantageous natural lighting conditions, a poor lighting situation does not seem to be something that you can overcome at this point.

          I’m not saying any of this to be mean. I truly am trying to save you some unhappy clients and major issues down the road.

      • Melinda Potter

        You still have stolen work up. What a jerky thing to do after getting busted

  • Cinobite

    “PS: In most states it’s illegal to have photography sessions with live animals without certain permits. ”

    I never knew that, thanks for the info. (I’m from the UK so it’s no big deal, but an interesting fact!)

    • Michael Goolsby

      I’m not saying that this girl has done exactly this, but I can easily imagine a scenario with new “location and natural light” photographers like herself who don’t exactly concern themselves with legalities, in which a peace officer stumbling across the scene might find numerous violations all at once. And while a nice cop might be willing to overlook any one of these, multiple violations at once would be a different story.

      For example, there is a very popular park near me where one can see half a dozen photographers shooting children and families at the same time on any given pretty weekend day. It is posted there that photographers are welcome but MUST have a shooting permit which, last I knew, was $60 for a single day. Whenever I shoot on location, I use an old photographer’s trick of keeping my permit visible in a side pouch as I shoot on the front of the clipboard which has all the shooting papers (itinerary, map, pose sketches, etc.). I have indeed seen two situations in my practice where other photographers were questioned and had to stop, right in front of their clients. Can you imagine a scenario in which a photographer is caught without a permit, but then the situation escalates because they have animals, a valid business license, etc.

      Clients trust that their photographers are acting entirely within the bounds of regulations and law. If you’re just taking money for taking pictures, you’re not a real business.

      • Cinobite

        A case for Indemnity Insurance in addition to Public Liability I feel!

  • cfw

    “I wasn’t aware of all the legalities…” Please – Do you really need to know “all the legalities” in order to know stealing/fraudulent representation is wrong (and illegal)? Desperate words from a thief caught with his/her hand in the cookie jar; they can’t deny their hand is in the jar, so they pretend to be “unaware of all the legalities”. At the very least, this behavior demonstrates a monumental moral black hole.

    • peaceetc

      Agreed. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. If she’s going to have a business, she needs to make herself aware of all the legalities. It’s her responsibility as a business owner.

      • Joel

        Yup, nobody ever said owning your own business would be easy. You got to know this stuff.

      • Darren Bradley

        “I’m sorry officer, I don’t know how fast I was going” has never, ever gotten me out of a ticket.

  • Photo Stealers
    • Justin Case

      site seems to still be changing. Still waiting for that ‘apology’ to be posted, and the ridiculous ‘disclaimer’ to be removed

  • Cinobite

    Oh yay! The wix site is back up. Wow, I see what you all mean, they look nothing like the stolen images. And Soni B, you REALLY need to learn about whitebalance and exposure

    • Joseph Philbert

      Aslo she need to STOP the spot coloring …smh

      • Marc W.

        Also, I think #19 on the front page might be stolen also…. it’s in focus.

        http://mrsfernandez777.wix.com/prettypics

        • Joseph Philbert

          Well if it’s in focus it might not be hers lol

        • Photo Stealers

          It’s a wix template image.

          • Cinobite

            lol

    • Joel

      Can anyone explain to me why the Silver Package cost more than the Bronze Package? lol

      • Cinobite

        You mean the bronze costs more than the silver 😛

        • Joel

          Yes Sorry! Lol even my brain doesn’t want to work that way. Edited it.

  • Joseph Philbert

    It is over yet ..or is she still in the deny bullshit/mistake mode?

  • dd

    I’m gobsmacked . . . the site still has the lame “excuse” for illegal, immoral behaviour displayed in the line: “DISCLAIMER: ALL
    IMAGES IN THIS WEBSITE ARE NOT NECESSARILY MINE (MOST ARE) BUT ARE USED
    FOR REFERENCE TO PROTECT THE IDENTITIES OF MY CLIENTS”

    • Joseph Philbert

      I guess she does not have enough images to supply her website.

    • Joseph Philbert

      Instead of saying most are … She needs to say 5% of the images are mine

    • peaceetc

      Are all her clients in the Witness Protection program?

      • Joseph Philbert

        Must be!

  • OtterMatt

    People really should know by now that posting “these aren’t mine” doesn’t insulate you from anything, legally. In fact, in the eyes of most courts, it’s actually seen as proof that you KNEW what you were doing was wrong and did it anyway, which instantly takes any copyright claim straight to Willful Infringement, and adds about two zeros to the total potential claim price.

    • Justin Case

      but not to worry. She says she’s sorry and that she has been so blessed that she doesn’t need the money, so I’m SURE that she will contact all the photographers she stole from and make it right…
      (PS, is there an ’emoticon’ for sarcasm?)

  • Darren Bradley

    It’s still painfully obvious which photos are hers and which are stolen on the site. Most of these are what you would consider to be snapshots – nice, amateur snapshots. But they also demonstrate a clear lack of understanding of photography fundamentals, including composition, lighting, exposure, aperture, focus, white balance… Jen has obviously confused the kind, supportive, and polite comments from friends and family as validation that she should be a photographer. But she still has so, so much to learn on both the business AND the photography side.

    And can someone please explain the attraction of spot coloring? Besides Schindler’s List, I’ve yet to see an appropriate application. Don’t people realize that if you color the clothing but leave the person black and white, they just look dead?

    • Michael Goolsby

      In the first paragraph, you are correct on every observation.

      The answer to your question in the second paragraph is: they selective color simply because they can. No other reason is considered.

      • doncalifornia

        So true. Selective color is a cheap little magic trick.

  • peaceetc

    To Soni B: please take a minute and read what I have written. There are a few things you truly need to understand if you are going to continue your photography business.

    1. There are rules and laws you must follow. There are licenses, permits, taxes, insurance, contracts, etc., you must get. Even if you do it part-time or as a hobby, you must still follow the rules. No one is exempt.

    2. If you are representing yourself as a photographer, then I would hope it would be obvious you must provide your own work to potential clients so they can decide whether to hire you. To use others’ images (even with permission) is misleading. Your own work and the work you stole are not similar.

    3. This is not meant an insult, but constructive criticism — you have a lot to learn about photography. Your photos show a lack of a basic understanding about exposure, composition, focus, and other issues. I understand you are new, and that’s fine. But you still need to learn. Don’t slight your clients by promising something you cannot do. If you can’t see the difference between your own photos and others’ work you had on your site, then that prove you need to step back and improve your skills. Again, this is not meant as an insult, but it is something you need to know. If you can’t handle this sort of talk, then you are in the wrong business.

    4. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. You say you didn’t know, but that doesn’t mean you can’t be held responsible for it. Legally, you are responsible for what you do. You may we face lawsuits and fines.

    5. If you are caught doing something wrong, the professional thing to do is to own it, not try to blame others or threaten them. People have the right to disagree with you and to tell you you’re wrong. It’s not libel, slander, or defamation of character. You are the one who did wrong, and any lawyer would tell you that. A simple Google search will tell you what I am telling you.

    6. You weren’t hacked. People posted on your public Facebook page, which is what people do. That’s not hacking. No one stole your password, no one logged into your account without your permission. Again, educate yourself before flinging accusations.

    7. I don’t care about your religion. It has nothing to do with anything, and has no place here. But remember this — thou shalt not steal.

    8. Accept what you did was wrong, contact each of the photographers from whom you stole with an apology, and understand they have the legal right to pursue this if they choose. Stop attacking those who have called you out, because are just digging a bigger hole for yourself each time you do it.

    9. I cannot emphasize this one enough — EDUCATE YOURSELF. Learn photography, learn business, and learn to accept there is a lot you do not know. It is up to you to learn and grow and become a true professional photographer. Ask questions, learn by doing, take classes, read and research. It’s on you, so go out there and do it.

    • Michael Goolsby

      Good words of wisdom that she and others would benefit from listening to.

      • peaceetc

        Thank you, Michael. I honestly want to see people do better.

    • Nicely put @peaceetc:disqus

      • peaceetc

        Thanks, Bob. I just hope it hasn’t fallen on deaf ears.

  • Piemonade

    I see her Facebook “apologies” have been deleted. This is nit-picky, but since she reads here:

    Your “Be nice to your photographer; the power of editing is in their hands” warning is in bad taste on a “professional” photography page. No one wants to hear that they need to kiss your butt so they don’t look as ugly/fat as a) they really are or b) you will make them look in post-processing. Assuming you are being paid, it is your JOB to direct your clients to the most flattering lighting and posing to minimize any perceived insecurities and maximize their best physical attributes. Post-processing edits should not change how the person looks, but as naturally as possible remove distracting blemishes and enhance natural beauty. That’s how a professional portrait artist works.

    Well, they also don’t steal. But I think you’ve heard plenty of advice on that subject.

    • Joseph Philbert

      She will never apologize publicly without passing blame or calling it a mistake.

    • Big Bhad Wolf

      Wow. I would never even conceive of saying something like that to a customer. Spoken like someone who doesn’t actually make a real living doing this stuff.

  • Melinda Potter

    What’s up with the disclaimer?! WTH?! What about the people in the photographs you stole? Have you thought about them at all? Just take stuff down that doesn’t belong to you and quit with the silly disclaimers. Ewwwwwww This thief turns my stomach a little more than usual.

  • Michael Goolsby

    She’s not only solidly still in the denial phase, but the contempt phase, as well. Although she admits to being new to the business, she is obviously not interested in learning how to do it right. What she doesn’t realize is that her name will now be FOREVER linked to stealing photos, and will appear on every search. She also seems to think this site and its followers will give up. They won’t.

    Basically, she feels entitled to go by her own rules only. As always, I’m sure everyone here will give her oblige her with plenty of rope to hang herself with.

    • Joseph Philbert

      That’s the problem with fauxtographers

  • Guest

    For future reference for photo thieves: when searching Google for images for your portfolio, use an Advanced Search. Click on the gear icon on the top right of your browser window after typing a search term into Google. The important bit is down the bottom on the next page.

    (Tongue in cheek advice).

    • Joseph Philbert

      Good advice lol… Still misrepresentation but not stealing

    • Cinobite

      Cool, I didn’t know about that either lol, mind you, I don’t trawl Google to find images to use in my business and pretend they are mine 😛

      • Joseph Philbert

        Ha..

    • jld12381

      No, take your own images – as few as they may be – and post them. Own your work. Do the work to get better. Don’t use images of other photographers and claim them as your own.

  • soni b

    I AM SORRY….SORRY….SORRY….I realize what I did, in using images that weren’t mine, was wrong and AM SORRY. Yes, I am new, yes I am naive, yes I need to do my research, yes I have a lot to learn….I AM SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There’s no other way to say it, SORRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!! Please, I want to get over this and move on, with my OWN work. While I understand the upset I’ve caused, your words and comments are also very hurtful and think you’ve all made your points. You want me to feel like an idiot…I do. You want me to question my quality of work…I am. You want to tear down my confidence…you have. Anything else you want me to feel?????

    • soni b

      And no, to some who were asking how I sleep, I haven’t slept since yesterday….I am not at peace…..I wish I could take it all back but I can’t….I’m SORRY

      • Justin Case

        sounds like you are getting it at last. Have some sleep. Wake up tomorrow, take a few deep breaths, reread the helpful rather than the hurtful things that have been said here and then start over.

        No point in making any decisions when you can’t think straight, that is not what this site is trying get you to do.

        Tomorrow, as Melinda says, start sending emails to the photographers listed above. Good luck.

      • Cinobite

        Good, because you don’t deserve it

    • Melinda Potter

      Glad to see you’re finally coming around

    • Norman Beer

      After you sleep today/tonight, send your emails to the people you stole from & be ready to pay out any use fees they may charge you. AND, get your client list together and start sending them letters explaining what you’ve done. Be ready and willing to refund them everything they paid you. Why? Because compared to the possible legal actions, these are the lesser of the evils.
      As others have told you before, be prepared to explain this to all of your friends and family too. Because most already know or suspect it.

    • Joseph Philbert

      This is basically all we wanted you to realize… nothing more nothing less.
      Its time for healing.

      • Cinobite

        I VERY much doubt she does realise and I doubt even more that she will do as @Norman Beer:disqus suggests

    • Cinobite

      You’re a criminal, you stole peoples work, you don’t get to say sorry and move on, that’s not how the law works, that’s not how the industry works, that’s not how society works. You broke the law, now you have to face the consequences.

      • Guesty

        Stealing images isn’t a criminal offense. Fraud is but that’s on the clients end, not photographers.

        • Cinobite

          How do you figure that someone committing fraud is on the end of the client not the purpose committing the act? Let’s not forget the legalities of misrepresentation, false advertising, willful intent, deception….

        • Cinobite

          Also, stealing images carries up to $150,000 fine PER instance. She’d probably rather serve a few weeks than pay out millions in fines.

        • jld12381

          Yes, stealing photographers and CLAIMING THEM AS YOUR OWN (which is what you are doing by cropping out watermarks and not referencing back to the photographer who took them) is a FEDERAL offense. Photography like any other art form is protected under copyright laws. Learn photography, learn the business and legal aspects of it and then come back and open a business.

        • Joseph Philbert

          Wow really ? Stealing images is not criminal hahahhahahgaha

        • Joseph Philbert

          Stealing images and falsely displaying them as your own is FRAUD and is a crime … I am not even getting into copyright infringement law.
          Its not the type of crime that cops will knock on your door and put you in handcuffs but it is against the Law in most countries
          .
          Fraud is a type of criminal activity, defined as ‘abuse of position, or false representation, or prejudicing someone’s rights for personal gain’. Put simply, fraud is an act of deception intended for personal gain or to cause a loss to another party.

          The general criminal offence of fraud can include:
          deception whereby someone knowingly makes false representation
          or they fail to disclose information or they abuse a position.
          source : google!

    • doncalifornia

      No, as for me personally, I want you to be accountable. That’s all. I am not “angry” and I don’t want to tear down your confidence. What I do want is to rid the industry of a fake. If at some point you have skills and a real business, and want to set up a new site with all your own work, and want to gain the confidence of your local clientele, based on real work and real images, great. I don’t see how that can happen overnight though. You should take classes and join local shoot groups. You should have people critique your work and show you solid methods of conducting a business. In the meantime, you still have a website up, and if you want a “clean start” you might want to drop the web site right away and go from there. The best way to start over is to actually start over.

    • Aaron Lee

      Yes. There’s one more thing i want you to feel. The weight of an Olive Garden server tray on your hand…lol
      (Sorry, everyone. I couldn’t help myself…)

      In other words… just go away, and get a job. There are MORE than enough photographers in the world. NOBODY needs you.

  • soni b

    I no longer have a website

    • soni b

      I’ve literally been at the computer all night and day, distraught over this…I was able to email two different photographers that I was able to get info for and say sorry….I haven’t spent time with my husband or little girl because mommy is too busy crying over a mistake that no one wants to forgive or let her live down….what more can I give???? SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY

      • Norman Beer

        Do you think we can’t check? Really, lying about your site being gone? It and FB are still up. Sorry but you are as untrustworthy as they come. If you think this is going away just because you said sorry, keep dreaming.
        All of your friends in your area all know about this already. Think your kids teacher doesn’t know? Keep dreaming.
        Time to shut everything down and sell all your gear. Why sell you ask… Because the legal actions could cost you everything…

        • soni b

          The wix site is gone & the few things that were on FB were removed….I don’t understand

          • Melinda Potter

            It’s still up Soni

          • soni b

            i’m going to check now….

          • Confused

            This was just a few minutes ago. Still up.

          • soni b

            down

          • Norman Beer
          • soni b

            what am I not doing??????

          • Norman Beer

            You’re lying to us…
            Delete the pages.

          • soni b

            it says it’s in deletion mode

          • Norman Beer
          • grrr
          • Justin Case

            go get some sleep. If you really did shut it down, it may take some time to be replaced/deleted from WIX’s servers. Who knows. Check back tomorrow.

          • Cinobite

            Are you really that fucking stupid? “deletion mode”, you can’t just keep making things up and thinking people will believe them. People here are professional photographers, some of us are professional web developers, you’re are nothing but full of shit.

          • doncalifornia

            LOL. Ok here’s what I did: I went to Wix and created a new account. I then picked from the templates and created a site. Then I published it. I went and looked at the web address and there was my site with the one photo I had uploaded. So far so good. Then I went to Wix Help and asked how to delete my site, and my account. It’s two processes. For the site, I had to go to my account, edit and manage my sites, and hit Delete. It asked if I want to delete my whole site. I clicked it; and then I went to my url and it said there was no such site. Then I went back to Wix and looked around on my main settings page, found where I could delete my Wix account, and there was a page where I had to put in my email and password and request deletion. I did, and a confirm email was sent to me, where I had to confirm deletion. I clicked on the link in the email and it completely obliterated my account. I do not have an account at all at Wix, nor a web site. I did ALL of this is less than 30 minutes. It almost took me as long to type this as it did to go through the entire process from getting a free account, creating a site, deleting the site, and obliterating the account. At no point, by the way, did Wix tell me my account was “in deletion mode.”

          • Joseph Philbert

            I made a WIX account weeks ago… only for the reason of double checking what “stock” images the templates use. It was quite simple to remove.

            I think its hard for her to let go.

          • doncalifornia

            Yeah I think what’s happening here is she is trying to disable it without completely obliterating it, in the hopes of renewing it once everything has blown over. Obliterating it is easy; it shouldn’t be 6 or 7 hours later and she still can’t figure out how to get the site down. She just doesn’t want to close the whole account.

          • Cinobite

            Exactly! She’s completely full of shit and actually believes that we are less intelligent than her! lol

          • grrr

            I hate when you think we need to point out every picture you stole.

          • Norman Beer
          • soni b

            I AM OWNING UP & SAYING SORRY, ADMITTING WRONGDOING….but still this isn’t good enough!!?

          • Joseph Philbert

            The website is still up … it has nothing to do wit Google its still on.

          • Confused

            This was just a few minutes ago….

          • Norman Beer

            Nope, they are both still up.
            One thing for you to remember…. If you think you know who outed you, you’re probably wrong!

          • captain-confuzzled

            this may help – from the Wix support pages:

          • Justin Case

            good catch. I’m sure that will prove useful for others in the future (sadly).

          • Cinobite

            I want to clarify that last point before she uses it as an excuse.
            When you delete a wix account, it’s GONE from the Internet.
            Only the directions are left, which is what the Google results are they talk about. The directions are there but there’s no house when you get there.

          • Cinobite

            Absolutely delusional

      • Melinda Potter

        Read the blog post. All the original photographers that were able to be sourced are up there. Click on the links, and you will magically be taken to the information you say you are seeking.

        • soni b

          the website is down

          • soni b

            if it’s somehow still showing up then I don’t know what I’m missing because I shut it down, removed my info, etc

          • Melinda Potter

            What does this have to do with contacting the photographers you stole from? I’m telling you their information is up there ^ click on “original source” or “original photographer” and you’ll find the information you say you have been unable to find. It’s been found for you

          • soni b

            i’m working on that…

          • Cinobite

            You’re missing a brain or any lack of rational intelligence. THAT is what you are missing. Deleting a wix account is not difficult, there are no “deletion modes” there are no server caches, you hit delete and it goes. We know that you’re not even trying to remove it, because you’re a compulsive liar. You’ve been given the details for the photographers yet you claim you can’t find who they are, you’re pretending to have problems removing your site because you have this stupid idea that if you pretend you can’t do it for long enough, all of this will go away and you can carry on.

            You’re pathetic I feel sorry for your daughter.

          • Just a Girl

            Nope, I just took this.

          • Sooner

            The website is still coming up as of 6:38pm ET…

          • Cinobite

            Still up 0010 GMT (7pm EST?)

      • Cinobite

        We don’t care, you broke the law. Tell us, have you told your daughter that mummy can’t play with her because mummy is a bad person and a thief? Or did you tell your family the Internets is being mean? I’m guessing the latter

        Do you think people want to forgive murders and rapists or let them live it down? No, you’re a fucking criminal.

        And for what more you can give, how about stop fucking lying you dumb shit.

        • v

          No name calling. Fighting with an idiot in public is stupid. No one watching will know which one is the idiot. And don’t compare her to a rapist or a murder. This is a petty crime. Being raped and murdered is far more serious.

          • Cinobite

            She’s a lying dumb shit, that much IS evident. And I wasn’t comparing her to a murderer, I was posturing a question and highlighting that she broke the law and is a criminal just like every one else who is a criminal. The severity of her crime on the scale badness doesn’t factor into it. To be quite honest, if someone is following this page and can’t tell who the idiot is…. well…..

          • v

            http://cinobite.com/

            Cinobite answer this question for me. When were you in the kitchen making lunch like a boss? March 8, 2013 or May 12,
            2012. Your blog post is very misleading. And if you were not making what was in the picture posted…what were you making?

          • Melinda Potter

            V, lmao are you serious? (Eye roll)

          • Cinobite

            I’m sorry, I don’t see the relevance of your question. Are you trying in some pathetic manner to suggest that I stole that photo lol

            The blog post isn’t misleading at all, the only way to see “May 12th” is to download the image and check the exif. Needless to say, It’s more than likely that it was May 12th as, not only do I rarely post to my blog, May the 12th is when I posted the image to facebook. As to why it’s in on March 8th a year later, I don’t know, late post, coding error, changed the post date to space out content, say it on the computer and uploaded it post event.

            What does it have to do with anything?

          • Joseph Philbert

            Yep your an idiot … LOL
            Want to check my blog also?

          • doncalifornia

            V. Seriously, V. LOL.

          • Joseph Philbert

            English comprehension is quite funny in that one.

          • v

            My comment from earlier is gone. Hmm. I didn’t do.

            Cinobite did you take this picture?

            http://www.flickr.com/photos/41731611@N03/8029277243/

            Flickr has rules too. And some how you seem to feel like you can break them.

            Flickr rules…https://www.flickr.com/help/guidelines/

            Don’t upload anything that isn’t yours.

            This includes other people’s photos, video, and/or stuff you’ve
            copied or collected from around the Internet. Accounts that consist
            primarily of such collections may be deleted at any time.

            Do upload content that you’ve created.

            Respect the copyright of others. This means don’t steal photos or
            videos that other people have shared and pass them off as your own.
            (That’s what favorites are for.)

          • Melinda Potter

            “My comment from earlier is gone. Hmm. I didn’t do”. Might be that the post was just so telling, shocking, and damaging, that the PS admin Just HAD to remove it to protect us minions from your awesome sluthing skills. I bet that’s it. You’re so silly

      • Cinobite

        More lies. It takes 4 clicks to nuke a facebook page.

        I tell you what, if this was me, I’d have had my facebook and website down within 3 minutes, no, thinking about it, I could do it in 1 and a half minutes. You’re full of shit and this isn’t going away.

      • Big Bhad Wolf

        Do you KNOW what an apology is?

        You post something like this on ALL of your PUBLIC pages:

        I am sorry to everyone that I have INTENTIONALLY hurt with my theft. I am sorry to the real PROFESSIONALS who have taken years, of their lives, and uncounted dollars to become as good as they are. I am sorry to the potential CUSTOMERS that I have ripped off, because they believed that the work of the professionals was mine.
        I am sorry to the INDUSTRY, who people like me, who do not want to spend the time and effort it takes to practice and learn to hone their craft, undermines each day by charging bottom basement prices for my shoddy work, that I cover up by stealing from professionals.

        Please visit the following pages, of the people that I have stolen from, because I am not going to pursue photography as a business again, until enough time and effort, practice and study, has gone into my work, that I can even conceive of calling myself a “professional”. I will NOT lie, or steal photos again.

        See, THIS is an apology. A REAL apology lifts the burdens of guilt and shame, and allows you to move on.

    • Cinobite

      Funny, because I’m literally looking at it right now. So again you’re lying, but that doesn’t surprise me

    • Norman Beer

      Now that you’ve slept, would you like to change your story? Because it’s still up and you didn’t delete it. There are a number of posts in here that tell you how to do it, and prove you didn’t.

      • Cinobite

        Perhaps it’s time we report it to wix and get it removed for her as she clearly has no intention of taking it down.

    • Norman Beer

      Really? This is what you were doing rather than spend precious time with your daughter? So you not only lied to us, but to her? How in the world will you show your face around Clermont again?

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Perfectly-Beautifully-Made-Photography/235334826670789

    • Guest

      I’m curious, do you think the PTA knows?

  • Darren

    Website still up and still contains stolen imagery.

  • Wandering thru and moving on..

    Holy cow…..i have to say that this is the first time i’ve ever seen something so disturbing relating to a group of posts. You have someone who clearly commits a crime (we can assume knowingly as a worst case) and even after apologies and owning (at many different levels genuine or not) she was literally stoned in a public forum with hundreds of individuals against one. What honestly were you expecting her to do at this point? Insane. While i was personally impressed in how this was caught and the teamwork to hold the individual accountable online it’s sad that the power was shifted to cause a person committing a crime to now be a public victim online. Two wrongs….either way. More than disgusting with some of the people cursing and wishing such horrible things on this individual. This went beyond borders. You really should focus on your individual businesses and positive things like your families and friends with the excess time. You held her accountable publicly….kudos. While she may never get it honestly you all failed at true accountability. I totally respect you earn a living this way but wow…..Scary. Good luck with forgiving in life and hope if you ever do anything wrong in life that you face less of an impact. If it makes you all feel better i can be your new victim although all i did was share a thought or two for a break. Take a breath, all my best, and good night.

    • doncalifornia

      Wandering, don’t be an idiot. She was caught, and MOST of us, simply called her out on her lies. Remember, SHE came HERE, and proceeded to lie and lie and lie. “hundreds against one”? Knock it off. She’s lying to thousands. She pretended it was a couple of photos accidentally left from the Wix template. Then she pretended she only put up a few “similar” photos to her work. Then she pretended she had a disclaimer and that no one should have thought they were her photos. All BS. BS after BS. It fit the pattern. If you stick around, you’ll see how every one of these outed stealers react. It’s actually kind of eerie. In the meantime, yes, please move on.

    • cfw

      If I’ve learned anything in life, it is that most thieves never change, and their sociopathic, bully-like tendencies drive them to extremes of denial. Unfortunately, sometimes the cold hard truth must me beat into people over and over and over again before they atone for their actions. Such appears to be the case with most of these thieves. They seem to continually lie about taking down their offending sites, lie about knowing that what they are doing is “wrong,” twist the facts to garner sympathy, cry out loud, or just plain deny everything, then start new web sites under different names and start the process all over again. I personally would rather see others go a little overboard in their persistence towards these thieves, rather than turn the other cheek.

    • peaceetc

      Hundreds against one? Are we reading the same comments? A good number of us have tried to help her learn what she did wrong so she can keep from doing it in the future. I’m glad she’s apologized, but I’m not entirely sure she truly gets it yet. That remains to be seen.

      What she did was on a public web site and Facebook page. She was called out for her misdeeds, and people commented about it. I’d say it has been a pretty civil discussion, for the most part. If you want to see crazy, check out the Christopher Jones / Ryan Christoph listing. That one… well, it’s nuts.

      I don’t blame people for being upset over something like this. We’ve likely all had images stolen, and it’s frustrating. Photo Stealers is very needed in the photo industry, because somebody has to do something.

      I have seen truly remorseful people who have been outed by Photo Stealers. There was a woman recently who used images on her blog, and truly didn’t realize she couldn’t legally do it. She posted a sincere apology and did what she could to rectify it immediately. That listing was taken down because the problem was solved.

      And, no, the person who runs Photo Stealers does not make a living doing this. She does get donations and have ads here, but it goes to paying for hosting and other things for the site. She has a day job.

    • CrackerJacker

      “She was LITERALLY stoned in a public forum…”

      Yep. She was killed by people throwing stones at her.

      Keep wandering.

      • peaceetc

        Oh, I missed that. Nice catch.

      • Piemonade

        I don’t think Wanderer knows what “literally” means. 😉

    • Big Bhad Wolf

      SO I wonder if this is her… or a friend?

    • Joseph Philbert

      Wishing horrible things? Who would do that?

    • Cinobite

      Ah, there’s been quite a few posts like this over night, we could be at the next, all predictable, stage of falsifying comments.

      What do we want her to do? Stop lying. She keeps making shit up and pretending to take action when she isn’t.

      And, for what it’s worth, we ARE focusing on our own businesses. It’s called damage control, these people need to be punished in the same way that someone who steals our kit would.

      We all do things wrong in life and we all have to face the consequences, these are the consequences of her actions.

    • Piemonade

      You must be new to the internet. There are lots of “disturbing” things online… not the least of which, finding your images stolen over & over by fauxtographers trying to scam unsuspecting clients. My commercial images are often stolen and used to sell cheap knock-off products, while the original company actually paid for the shoot & commercial image licensing, the copycat misrepresents their product by stealing my professional images of the originals, custom made product. When caught, they shut down and pop up again under a different name.

      It gets old.

      The people featured on this website are doing the same thing: stealing images made by other photographers to misrepresent their own skills & defraud the unsuspecting public. Thank goodness someone is actually DOING something to stop these phonies.

    • Melinda Potter

      What I don’t get is, any business that is called out for doing wrong, gets complaints, gets discussed, and eventually the word spreads about them to warn others not to do business with them. Unless they take care of the complaint/discrepancy head on, and do whatever they can in their power to make things right, it’s considered bad business and things will grow from a simple complaint to viral warnings and numbers of posters in no time flat.
      That’s what happened here. Pretty Pics by Jen in Clermont Florida received a complaint dealing with unethical behavior and illegal doings. She was then told what she needed to do to rectify the situation. She chose not to address it properly, and instead deflect the blame towards those who outed her shady doings all while continuing to practice their business unethically. You would not expect this from any legit small business or any large corporation, or any sort of service related field. It would be unacceptable, am I right?
      Why is a photography business held less accountable and by lower standards than other types of businesses in your eyes? Do you really think that low of the profession?
      I don’t know all the ends and outs of how all this came to light with Pretty Pics, but it’s usually brought to their attention rather quickly, either straight away after the PS post goes up, or in most cases well before a posting is created. That’s the time to do damage control and clean up, and do what’s needed to correct the situation. Seems as though Pretty Pics by Jen needed a lot of people involved for her to understand the ethics and legalities of what she had done, and to see that we all won’t let her continue to fraudulently and illegally represent her business. She needed the posters at PS to hold her hand and walk her through, and even then she refused to try to right her wrong, and only said she did everything she could. Look I’m fine with no contact with the original owners, unless they contact her. I’m ok with never contacting a soul, removing all stolen work, and deleting or disabling comments on your business page. Go ahead, be an ass. But to come here and say “I already took everything down. I’ve already made things right with the photographers I stole from. I already said I was sorry for the misunderstanding. What more do you want from me?!” When you have NOT taken the stolen work down, have NOT been in contact with the artists you stole from, and are still labeling your blatant, purposeful, self serving theft as a misunderstanding, in the hopes to somehow belittle what you have done as somehow less fraudulent than it actually is… Well, that’s not going to fly very well.
      Yes, I get it. In the world of everything but photography, where photography is just a blip, and in the eyes of the majority of the world who don’t get into or understand photography “What’s the big deal? Are you kidding me?! She stole pictures! Get over it. Don’t you think you are making a mountain of a mole hill?!” Look I get that, and I’m pretty sure Pic by Jen shares your views on this, along with many many others, but in photography land taking someone else’s work and claiming it as your own to market your services is the lowest thing you could ever do. Pics by Jen claims she is a photographer, and we all are holding her up to the same standards every professional photographer should be held to. Maybe we shouldn’t expect that from her? Maybe we are asking too much? How would YOU handle the situation? What’s a better way?

      • peaceetc

        Exactly. A business is a business is a business. We aren’t asking too much, we are asking her and the rest of these people to be decent human beings and to not break the law, just like we would expect of anyone.

      • Aaron Lee

        This. So much this.

      • doncalifornia

        So perfectly said.

    • Aaron Lee

      “she was literally stoned in a public forum”

      rotfl-copter…

      What’s that line from The Princess Bride? “You keep using that word. I don’t think you know what it means.”

      LOL

    • Norman Beer

      Her lies continue. Why claiming she lost sleep and missing her daughter she was building up new pages. Ok, maybe not a lie as those take time to do, but seriously? I certainly hope no one in the area ever considers her for any business dealings because it’s not only a big legal risk, it’s would be promoting her lies.

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Perfectly-Beautifully-Made-Photography/235334826670789

      • Joseph Philbert

        Wow she rebranded already … Smh

    • SMH

      Wow, she’s a member of the PTA in the Lake Co. district!

    • TirzhaZ

      “literaly stoned in a public forum…”

      Really? You do not know the meaning of the word “literally.”

  • Cinobite

    As you’re too stupid and ignorant to do it yourself, I’ve done it for you.
    abuse@wix.com

    • Cinobite

      @soni_b:disqus DID YOU SEE HOW EASY THAT WAS?

      12:14 Report Sent
      12:14 Email received and support ticket created
      12:15 Ticket replied “The site was removed from our servers .”

      • Joseph Philbert

        Dam!

      • Joseph Philbert

        Dude I am so doing this the next thief that steals images… If some of us send a report it will have better backing

        • Cinobite

          I think it’s worth giving them the chance to take responsibility and fix things themselves, but she was just taking the piss.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Well maybe more of a last resort… so yea I agree.

    • doncalifornia

      LOL, Golly that was hard. You need a vacation now I’ll bet. 😉

    • Norman Beer
  • Kristin

    I have yet to receive a personal apology and my website is listed above , and near the top. I guess she’s too busy thinking up what to do for herself next than fix this with those she’s stolen from first

  • Theoderik

    Facebook page is gone.

  • Melinda Potter
    • peaceetc

      EXACTLY. Those people were awful. They didn’t want to actually learn anything from Ramsey, they just wanted him to come in and tell them how wonderful they were, and she didn’t care her deserts were store-bought and nobody liked her food. It’s the same thing, different subject.

    • Cinobite

      I saw that, I really can’t comprehend how people can be so delusional.

    • Cinobite

      LOL, found this on her facebook

      • Joseph Philbert

        yea she is so not sorry.

    • Joel

      Very accurate description of these people!

    • Joseph Philbert

      To a T.. By the way it’s rare that Gordon will ever backs down. From a fight.

    • OMG! I hate shows like these but I couldn;t help myself! That was a train wreak!

  • Norman Beer

    Oh look, she’s back! All while crying that she lost time with her daughter and lying about pulling the wix page.
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Perfectly-Beautifully-Made-Photography/235334826670789

    • Helena

      Just going to show that she learned nothing at all from this and genuinely doesn’t think she did wrong.

  • Meredith Melody

    She contacted me. Claims she didn’t know that images on Google weren’t free for the taking and that it was an accident. Also tried to pull at my heartstrings by telling me that she’s a mom with a young daughter who looks up to her. I told her shame on her, that she’s a liar and she knew very well that she stole my work (and others) because my images were clearly watermarked and she cropped out my name. I also told her that it was wrong to use her daughter to try and get out of this and that I hope she learned a valuable life lesson about not taking the easy way out. I was not mean or hateful, just matter of fact. I let her know that my attorney specializes in internet law and that if she continues to operate any form of photographic business that I would proceed with legal action, and I’m happy to include any other involved photographer. My attorney is here, if anyone is interested in pursing this. They are experts in internet law and are ready to chomp, if we need to their counsel http://www.beaconlegalgroup.com/

    • Justin Case

      Glad to hear both that she has actually made the effort to contact some people and that you have taken a strong position on how to proceed.

      Many people posting here have made it very clear how they feel, but those who have been directly affected should really have the last word on how this is handled.

      good luck and thanks for sharing your experience.

    • Cinobite

      So she’s a “professional photographer” and doesn’t know about copyright, thinking all images found on Google are free?
      You should point out that if her daughter looks up to her, she’s not setting a very good example as a role model

    • Joseph Philbert

      Wow… To pursue pursue with legal action if she operates a photography business … I like that.

    • Michael Goolsby

      “… if she continues to operate any form of photographic business that I would proceed with legal action…”

      I. JUST. FRIGGIN. LOVE. THAT!

  • Just a Girl

    Along with her claim of having wealthy clients-didn’t someone figure out that she is married to Cardiologist? I’m sure the local news stations would be all over that,

  • Justin Case

    (forgot to hotlink the new facebook account at the top of the page) https://www.facebook.com/pages/Perfectly-Beautifully-Made-Photography/235334826670789

  • Photo Stealers

    Animals are not fucking props you buy and dispose of when done.

    • Gemma

      This is also likely illegal and a lot of insurances won’t cover this
      (not that you have insurance). I suggest you devote some of this time
      (your wasting) on avoiding all the issues you’ve created here, by
      volunteering at some animal rescues! They get flooded with these
      animals that people use in this way! Can you imagine (probably not) the
      trauma that is going to inset into a small child that kills one of
      these small chicks? Use your head for once and stop making these stupid
      choices. Chicks are fragile! YES, I do volunteer at area shelters, so
      I do know what I am talking about.

      • Marc W.

        No, No, No. We don’t want her at any animal rescue. She might steal a dog to photograph and then “rehome” on craigslist.

    • Not again!
      • Not again!
        • Justin Case

          well, it is on her PERSONAL page, in PROFILE PICTURES, so maybe that’s her? (Third from the left is my guess).

          • Confused

            I think that photographer is in Utah?

          • Justin Case

            sorry, still looking for the ‘sarcasm’ emoticon ;/

          • Photo Stealers

            Nope, none of those children are hers. They are tagged on the photographer’s Facebook Page.

          • Justin Case

            …always one step ahead. Glad I’m not being shamed on this site… I would never be able to keep up

          • Cinobite

            Personally, I don’t see a problem there as long as she isn’t using it to represent herself. Let’s not forget fair use and what not, if we demonised every photo on a facebook page that wasn’t taken by the user there wouldn’t be any social media at all 😛

    • Confused

      I don’t get it…they sell fake chicks at stores like HobbyLobby or JoAnn’s. Seriously. Would I be an @ss if I turned in someone here in town for doing that?

    • That is pretty fucking sick.

  • ANGEL HARRIS

    Internet Slander – Libel, Slander, and Defamation ///// Explainedhttp://stopstealingphotos.com CONTACT : http://webreputationmanagement.net/blog/professional/118/internet-slander-libel-slander-and-defamation-explained.html

  • Notproductive

    In regards to Pretty Pics by Jen. I think you ought to know there is more going on here than you may realize. A poster on this sight got a bit of a jealous bug because Jenn was as the poster explained it, “taking away her business”. This person, who is too cowardly to identify herself, began a mission to sabatoge Jenn because she was doing a similar shoot in the same town. Where I do see the benefit to a site like this, I think you must take into account that some people are new photographers, just trying to make a bit of money on the side and aren’t trying to steal pictures, they actually may not know. I feel like you all can take a more positive spin on this instead of bombarding someone’s FB and websites and trying to ruin their business completely. I would almost guess that this can be identified as harassment on your part, not to mention what this does to their mental state. She apologized. She took down the pictures. What more do you want? I am a friend of hers and I wish I knew she was using stock photo so I could have warned her, but trust me, there are rules and laws that I never knew about before reading this page. You can use this page to help people with these rules and laws so they aren’t stealing photos.

    • Grrr

      Are you kidding? You need to read through the above post. She admitted to using others photographers work that was “similar to hers to protect the identity or her clients” that’s crazy, you do not FILL your site with other peoples WORK. She did not just use stock images!! She stole from photographers websites not stock images. Look through the above post, those are screen captures from HER site, filled with photos that are not hers and are clearly above her skill level. When she does that she’s committing theft and she misrepresents the quality of her work to her clients, therefore committing Fraud.

      • notproductive

        Really not trying to start anything, merely asking questions, but could those pics be from google images? The pictures may not be of her skill level, but she’s a great photographer! Why are sites like wixpics encouraging using their stock photos to enhance websites? I understand when you create art, it’s yours. I know this all to well as music of mine has been monetized on youtube and I don’t see a dime. My only point is, she was reported to you all through jealousy, and that’s not right either. This has hurt her self esteem. I think bombarding her pages is a bit overboard. You all can be great teachers with such knowledge about photography. Teach her to be a better photographer. I do believe her intentions were not to steal anything.

        • Joseph Philbert

          WIX does not encourage it they tell you to change them. If it was ONLY wix images PS would not bother make a post. Facts are Facts she copied images from google and added her watermarks that is beyond WIX.
          As for teaching her she needs to first clean up her act and admit wrong doing or this will never end and not the “mistake or misunderstanding” crap.

        • Justin Case

          I’m sorry, notproductive, but I really fail to see your point. If a competitor of hers called her out but she hadn’t done anything wrong, she certainly wouldn’t be in the mess she is in now.

          If the competitor is also stealing images or using deceptive marketing, by all means let us know and we will also point out his/her mistakes.

          What she did is not the same as downloading a song or using an image on a blog… she was IN BUSINESS as a photographer. If I take your song and then put my name on it or put it up as an example of music I would create for you if you pay me, I would expect you would see this quite differently. I don’t care how little experience you have, you simply don’t use other peoples’ work to represent your own in ANY business. That is exactly the definition of fraud.

          And look a bit more deeply before you make your remarks: plenty of people here took the time to specifically try to offer constructive advice to Jen and she chose to take a combative stance and to try to hide and lessen what she had done.

        • Joseph Philbert

          Look at the other posts on this site don’t focus on Angel … Look at about 5 other photographers that were outed .. They all do the same basic thing …. Deny, lie, redirect blame, threaten to sue, complain about bullying … Strange the ones that happen to make a honest restitution are left alone.

          • Joel

            Yup, we don’t even mention them or link back to them.

          • Photo Stealers

            This is about Pretty Pics by Jen, not Angel 😉

          • Joseph Philbert

            Corrected thanks :p

          • notproductive

            Completely off subject, but are you Greek? I saw a picture on your site of the Greek church I grew up in.

        • Marc W.

          It’s not really that hard. She stole/borrowed images and tried to represent them as her own. You can’t use photos of others as “references” for photos you “want to produce”. That’s misrepresenting yourself. That’s fraud.

        • MPR1776

          From what can be determined via this site http://thephotobrigade.com/2013/08/video-interview-copyright-registration-infringement-information-by-lauren-margolis-photoshelter/ her intentions don’t qualify as innocent intentions.

        • Cinobite

          So what if they were found on Google Images? That doesn’t give people the right to steal them and pretend that they took them

          Wix does uses stock images for template design and SPECIFICALLY states that you upload your own images.

          If you’re music has been stolen, you file a copyright infringement notice with Youtube and take legal advice. You don’t just let people carry on. If you think doing nothing is fine, you need to learn something about business.

          She wasn’t reported out of jealousy, she was reported for breaking the law. If I tell the cops my neighbour is dealing $40bn worth of crack from his garage and it’s affecting my weed sales, does that mean he shouldn’t be punished? Jesus Christ, what planet do you live on?

          We were all nice at the start, we offered advice and help and informed her of the consequences and legalities of her actions. Then she took the piss.

          And you STILL think she didn’t mean to steal anything when she went to other peoples websites, took the images, cropped out watermarks and uploaded them to her website pretending she took them. Unbelievable.

        • The images in google images don;t belong to Google, they are indexed there as part of their search services but all rights still belong to the original authors … how the fuck are you people so fucking ignorant!

          It even says at the bottom of the images “Images may be subject to copyright.”

          That’s like saying … but the car was parked on the street so I figured I could just take it.

    • Not again!

      She actively STOLE pictures! She knew full well what she was doing was illegal.
      Try READING everything above and then with a straight face say this same thing!

      • notproductive

        I understand what you are saying, but please understand that it’s also not right for another “photographer ” to try to sabatoge her because they felt threatened. Funny thing is they have ducks and bunnies as well for their shoots. I find it a bit hypercritical for them to be calling her out on her when they are doing the same. I’m not a photographer, so I really don’t know the answer to this, but is it ever ok to show pictures of poses that serve only to give your customers ideas of what they would like?

        • Joseph Philbert

          That is her fault … Again no one would care if she did not steal images … What happens now is that the community is looking at her with a fine tooth comb. She has to live with that mistake for months. The sabotage is her own doing

        • MPR1776

          Better look up the word sabotage in the dictionary. Pointing out that another photographer is engaged in fraud, theft and copyright infringement is not sabotage. Nor was she just showing pics of poses, her site tried to convey to potential clients that her skill set was far above what it actually is thereby misrepresenting herself to the public. It was her choice to do this instead of being honest and learning to excel at her chosen profession. Even if she couldn’t afford to take classes to better herself, there is so much information on the web, an excellent source is B & H on Youtube, they regularly pay some very good and famous photographers to come and give a lecture or course and they offer those videos for free to the rest of the world. In addition I highly recommend just plain old practicing, grab a relative and use them as a model, cook them a dinner for being nice enough to pose for you. Gimme a break with the half lame excuses because simply put, It is NEVER OK to steal another’s work.

          • notproductive

            I trying really hard to keep this a positive discussion between adults but you guys are even flinging insults at me and I have nothing to do with this. It’s like you guys are out for blood and revenge which is just not good for anyone. This makes me sad. You all could be using your knowledge to uplift people but instead you want to make them pay. I find it unfortunate that you all live in glass houses. I also pray you never, ever make a mistake, ever. You get what you give. I tried to help you see that Jenn is not a bad person, just made a bad decision. Like it or not, what you all are doing is harassment. I hope you can all find a way to use your gift to enhance someone’s life. I can tell you this. If I was looking for a photographer and saw this site first, I would search elsewhere seeing all of this negativity. I pray you all have a blessed day.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Yes the insults and negative remarks … Your the one that added your thoughts and assumed no one would engage your tomfoolery defense of an accused thief and try to down play the crime as if it less of a issue because you happen to know her … Your full of it.

          • notproductive

            Joseph, the sad thing is I looked at your page and your art is beautiful! I love your out of the box thinking and the way you capture the essence of your subject. However, you don’t know me or what I done or accomplished in my life. You have no idea how many times my creativity has been stolen for an organization’s personal gain. But I don’t sit there and harbor the hostility or cut down others who are trying to keep things civil. By the way, I believe you wanted to write “You’re” and not “Your” when saying “You’re full of it.” See, what good did that do me or you? Was it necessary for me to be mean spirited and sarcastic? Of course not.

          • CrackerJacker

            Don’t you hate it when you make a grammatical error in a post where you call someone out for a grammatical error?

          • MPR1776

            When you refuse to call out other organizations for stealing your work you exacerbate the problem. And you make it ‘OK’ for the next person to do the same thing to another because there were no consequences attached to the actions. P. S. Using your in place of you’re still isn’t a crime, but photo theft and plagiarism certainly is a crime.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Thank you for the compliment on my work I take a lot of pride in the imagery I create. As for the hostility the only time I get nasty or harsh-er is when someone who has been outed refuses to fess up or insults the intelligence of the photography community. Its a slap in the face and I tend to take personally only when they attempt to pull the wool over our eyes like we have not seen it a million times.. I am the most out-spoken member on this forum/website bar-none. When a new person is outed I do the same thing … I post a link to their fanpage under the stolen work within reason. If they engage I/we return in kind in the same way it was given. Sometimes it goes above broad but usually its because the deny deny deny syndrome they default to and it pisses some of us off.

            They take it as a joke but this is serious. Other photostealers have had to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars as restitution for this type of offence, others are forced to stop photography all together ONLY because they refused to just say “I am Sorry” and stop that practice all together.

            Here is the thing 95% of the time photographers will forgive those who steal their work if they are willing to make a public/private apology (public is a better option) and its been done before and the dogs went to sleep and the offender was never sued. This is what you seem to be missing if you are SUCH a good friend then I urge you to sit her down, talk to her and tell “The right thing to do is post a apology on your fanpage detailing what you did” andyou will see the miracle that happens because of that.
            1. We will back away
            2. She my feel better like a weight lifted off her back
            3. Other photographers may not seek legal action and efficiently killing whats left of her business.
            4. The caveat their will be a few that might be nasty but it will disappear as well.

            Just do the right thing.

          • Grr

            I don’t see anyone flinging insults at you. You are failing to look above at all the images she stole and removed watermarks/logos from. Her actions were very deliberate and you are trying to make it seem like it was just a mistake. She took someone’s work and tried to pass it off as her own. If you saw the site first you would probably know to ask the photographer to see a portfolio of their actual images or a full wedding or session.

          • notproductive

            Grr, I do understand and agree that it was not the right thing to do. My only point is, she took everything down. She shouldn’t have to keep “paying” as Joseph seems to think. I can’t say for sure, but I believe she reached out to the photographers and apologized. Doesn’t that help at all?

          • Grr

            There is one reply from a photographer that she contacted below. There’s also another reply from a photographer that she stole images from that has not heard from her. She has stolen images from several people and has not contacted them. The proper thing to do is to contact every single photographer she stole from and apologize and contact her clients and let them know that she did not use her own images to promote herself. It is fraud if they hired her after seeing those images. And she can be held liable. It seems that neither you or her understand the gravity of what she has done.

          • notproductive

            I understand, I just think there is no need for negativity. I appreciate that you are keeping this adult. Let me help to be a liason. I will tell her to reach out to all photogs. What else should she do to make this right?

          • Grrr

            She could face actual fines because of copyright infringement. She used the images to try and generate income for herself. It is actually punishable by up to 10 years in prison and hefty fines. Now do you see the gravity of this? Reaching out to all of the photographers with a sincere apology could help. She also needs to post on her webpage and Facebook what she has done so her clients are aware that they may not be getting the same quality of images that she advertised with. This is very important because she can also be charged with fraud.

          • What else should she do to make this right?
            monetary compensation to the photographers she stole from.
            she used copyrighted images taken by other people in a commercial, money making business. she owes those photographers money she SHOULD have paid in commercial licensing fees. what amount is between her and the original photographers. either way, she owes them something for using their work to make herself money.

            if she had robbed a bank, simply returning the money and apologizing would not be sufficient.

          • Grrr

            I understand that admitting fault and contacting everyone she defrauded will not be easy. It’s going to hurt her pride and possibly she may lose some clients over it. But I assure you it is much better to do that rather than being faced with possible jail time and hefty fines.

          • Justin Case

            Good, now I think that is a very productive stance. I would honestly suggest that Jenn take some time off from the business. Not to say she should stop taking pictures, but she should not be selling her services until she understands the business better.

            Next step, do her research. The internet is full of information. Learn how to use it and don’t just copy what you see others doing unless you completely understand the implications. This experience should be a good lesson.

            Seek professional help. Get a good lawyer with small business and intellectual property expertise. Get a good accountant at least to set things up legally. Take a training program and get certified. The PPA has tons of information on their website.

            Until then, she should not be advertising or taking peoples money. It is not right to the clients or the other photographers in her area. If she wants to build up her portfolio and people ask for her services, fine, but don’t expect to charge the same as someone who has gone though the years of work necessary to call themselves ‘professional.’

            Hope this helps. It has been pointed out before.

          • Mark

            Negativity? Look, just because something hurts your feelings it doesn’t mean it’s wrong. When you do the wrong thing and get caught, being told you are doing the wrong thing may hurt, but it’s a necessary pain if anyone wants to move on from their mistakes.

            This fricking generation that assumes that anything that hurts their feelings is the big bad wolf needs a hard wake up call.

          • notproductive

            It’s not my feelings. And, I’m not this generation. I’m older than you think.

          • Joseph Philbert

            For someone who claims they are older and from another generation… Your way of thinking from right to wrong is severely warped…. Then again you know her…. Whoopsie

          • Cinobite

            There’s no negativity, only truth. She stole, deliberately, she broke the law and she hasn’t paid for her crime. This isn’t an ethical issue, SHE BROKE THE LAW. Sorry doesn’t cut it.

            At the end of the day, she is full of shit and you are full of shit. I honestly don’t know which of you is the more delusional.

          • Not again!

            She still has stolen pictures on her page.

          • “Look, he gave the car back after getting caught stealing it … I think we should just let bygones be bygones”.

            Does that make any sense?

          • MPR1776

            Exactly how did I insult you when I was responding to someone else? (See screenshot) Or are you both the same person? And what exactly is this propensity to turn the perpetrator into a victim instead of duly acknowledging the fact that this person committed several crimes, not just once but over and over again. And how is telling someone to watch some excellent videos on their craft and to practice their craft not a positive, uplifting instruction? Jenn may or may not be a bad person, but she made the situation worse by claiming, because others insisted that she take responsibility for her actions and be held accountable, that she was being ‘bullied’. Had she simply said, I was wrong, I am sorry, this would have stopped, but oh no, she had to continue to make excuse after excuse for her actions and then compound them by accusations of bullying because she once again made a bad choice by not admitting that what she did was wrong. Had she done so and asked for help, I would bet the people on this site would have been more than willing to help her out.

          • notproductive

            I was not directing that comment at anyone in particular. I assure you, I ‘m not Jenn. I actually thought your advice was helpful, I’m just trying to find resolution. She has apologized . Again, many of her posts were directed at the girl who, I won’t turn in, but is doing the same type of shoot. I don’t know if the pictures are hers or not, but some of the stuff people were mad at Jenn about she is doing. I am the last person to make anyone into a victim. But, she has paid for the crime, now what? She had to change her personal page because of all of this. That’s not right.

          • Marc W.

            Where is the apology? (maybe I missed it, there are a lot of comments here.)

            Did this other “photographer” steal/borrow images and claim them as their own?

          • Anonymous

            I am one of the other photographers who she is claiming is trying to “sabotage” her. You can read my comment above / I have no idea how or why I’m being accused of this. I have had multiple customers who have booked with me who she has begun harassing as well. Also,’I have never once used another photographers work as my own. If I want something to add to my portfolio, I find someone – friend, family member etc to let me photograph them with whatever I’m wanting to add to my portfolio. Being “new” is not an excuse to steal work, at all. I’ve only been doing this for two years but I would never steal somes work to add to my portfolio or give an “example of comparable work” – which was a BS excuse on her part!
            And I have not received an apology for the way she has harassed me.

          • jld12381

            Everyone who has a photography business was new at one time or another – especially ones who move and have to start over – but that doesn’t give them the right to take another photographer’s images and put them on your own site to claim them as your own. I had a photography business once too and I used images I took on my site. Did I have many? No but I chose the best of the best of what I had taken and put them up. If she was indeed using stock photography as you called it, then there would be no issue because you have to PAY for stock photo license fee. I understand you are trying to help your friend but unfortunately, for her she chose to use images taken by a photographer from New England who died last year and was part of the larger photography community. Your friend needs to get herself involved with the photography community in her area and learn the right way to do things.

          • Joel

            I agree with all of this except for the part about it being no issue if she was paying for stock photos. That is still misrepresentation of your product. While it might be a grey area, it is also false advertisement.

          • Cinobite

            A hushed apology / email of excuses does NOT constitute a suitable resolution for a crime. Do you serious think people who download films illegally, steal from shops etc should be allowed to go home with no consequences as long as they say sorry? Are you really that stupid?

            She most definitely has NOT paid for the crime. Hopefully though, the photographers whom she stole from will be sending invoices, damages and infringement costs to her as we speak.

          • She has paid for the crime? Really? Let’s contact the photographers she stole from and find out if they received checks! I seriously doubt it!

            This is like me stealing a car and then saying “Stop trying to get me in trouble for stealing your car!”.

            Asshat.

          • CrackerJacker

            notproductive = typical concern troll. Move along & do not feed.

          • notproductive

            Thank you for proving my point.

          • Grrr

            Don’t lump us all together with crackerjack. We are genuinely trying to help you see the gravity of the situation as I said below.

          • MPR1776

            And thank you for proving ours and all the hot air you spew still does not negate the fact that using others images for your own financial gain is WRONG, someone else pointing out that this is WRONG is not sabotage nor is it bullying. Nor should it magically go away just because someone says ‘oops my bad’ it was not my fault, I wasn’t really stealing, excuse, excuse, excuse. So yes, she also stole work from the other photographer in town, causing financial pain to that other photographer by deceit because her own work couldn’t compete honestly with a person who didn’t make the bad decision to steal others works. So no it shouldn’t just be swept under the rug.

          • CrackerJacker

            What point? Jen stole photos – not just didn’t replace stock template images and therefore gave the impression that they were her work, but actively took other photographers’ images and put them in her site.

            You come on here so concerned that some unnamed competitor is “sabotaging” Jen, explaining how she’s too inexperienced to know right from wrong, asserting that she has “paid for her crime” (how exactly — paid usage fees and damages to all the photographers she stole from?) and crying harassment and bullying because people are sick of being lied to by people with severely damaged moral and ethical compasses.

            You are adding nothing to the conversation, but trying to deflect from Jen’s wrong-doing. We’ve seen it so often before, where some sock-puppet or concerned friend comes on here to show us all the error of our ways. But we’re not the ones stealing from others and trying to make money off of others’ work. Jen is.

          • Justin Case

            Please understand, notproductive, that we have seen all this before. I am very willing to believe that you want to help your friend, but how is stirring all this up here going to help? It had started to die off, but here it is, all over again.

            I also REALLY can not suggest STRONGLY ENOUGH that you understand that some of your assumptions really hurt what we are trying to accomplish. Please do not minimize that damage that has been caused, it will just anger people more.

            And most importantly, I just can’t take anyone seriously who doesn’t understand in this day and age how a search engine works. GOOGLE is not a repository of FREE anything. Just because it links to images, doesn’t mean it owns them or has any rights to them. It is like going to the library and assuming that just because a book is listed you can take it and do what you want with it. You really should understand this without us having to point it out.

          • Joseph Philbert

            So true..

          • Cinobite

            You can bet that they don’t think a pre-release Hollywood blockbuster found on Google is free and ok to download.

            These people are just beyond stupid. It doesn’t matter how many times you explain it to them – and their friends – they just don’t posses the mental capacity to understand such simple concepts. It’s getting boring. I’ll explain once, if they don’t listen then they deserve to be called names.

          • Cinobite

            I’ll call you names, you’re stupid. There we go. You still think it’s ok to steal and, evidently, you know think that criminal behaviour should go unpunished. You are right, you get what you give, she stole photos and fraudulently represented herself to potential clients, now she’s getting back that which she has sown.

            Not to mention that you clearly don’t even understand this website, this isn’t a directory for photography services, you’re SUPPOSED to come her, see the criminals and thieves and then decide to find someone else to hire.

            And, you know, I was waiting for the god and prays bullshit, needless to say, you didn’t disappoint.

          • Actually it should stop being a conversation between adults and should be a conversation between lawyers. As in the photographers who have had their copyright violated should be sending their lawyers after “your friend” … you want to talk about tanking a business? up to 150000$ per infringement and 2500$ to 25000$ per watermark removed or cropped out!

            39 violations where we can find the original artist … let’s low ball it and the judge only awards 2500$ per image used … that’s 97500$ in punitive damages. Let’s say 25% of those had watermarks removed (let’s say 10) … this would be repeated and concscious so I could see the judge going for full awards on this but let’s put it at the half way mark … 10000$ per watermark that’s 100,000$.

            Total losses: 197,500$ and that’s low balling the damages.

            High end of this could potentially be 5,850,000$ + 250,000 = 6,100,000$

          • Joseph Philbert

            Math is a son of a bitch..

        • Michael Goolsby

          Yes it is ok… when YOU are the one who created the example. Otherwise, it is not an example. Get it?

        • Cinobite

          I don’t know who this “other photographer” is supposed to be, but no one is “sabotaging” her, she’s done the damage herself by being a lying, cheating con artist. Who the hell would be threatened by that?
          Who is this “other photographer”? Or is this another part of the excuse?

          • Anonymous

            Read my post above – I am the “other photographer” – and I’ve never even met her or had anything to do with her – yet I’ve received threatening messages from her and she continues to bash me to potential clients.
            She’s just pissed because someone outted her (not me) and now she wants to threaten others to make herself look better.

          • Cinobite

            Keep an eye on it and if she’s lying about your service etc you can probably do her for willful defamation / libel / slander etc, if you’re lucky. She’s just compounded the issue. If s

          • Anonymous

            I have documented it all, and I have already contacted my attorney. I take it all very seriously – the threats, the slander… All of it! I won’t tolerate it.

          • Justin Case

            Like Joseph asked, can we see some documentation? Pretty please?
            Not that I don’t believe you, but I do think part of what makes this site work is that it always tries to back up it’s claims by posting screen grabs, images and sources. It really helps to better understand the situation when we have original documentation.

          • Anonymous

            This one was my favorite.
            Later she does on to say how this will bring me nothing but negative attention.
            I have more – at work now but I’ll try to remember to post more.

          • Anonymous

            I’m on my phone – I don’t even know if the screen shot posted? Sry

          • Justin Case

            I think we can be patient… after all, this thread already has 507 comments!

          • Anonymous

            Haha right?
            I can’t tell from my phone but it doesn’t look like my screen shot posted?

          • Joseph Philbert

            Nope we can’t see a thing ;(

          • Anonymous

            Cinobite – read my posts above.

          • Cinobite

            Indeed, but all we have to see is “anonymous” and “other photographer” so it’s difficult to know your situation 😛

          • Anonymous

            The situation is that this girl is psycho, and has chosen to blame HER stupid mistake on other people. You should read the threats she has sent me and some of my clients! And for what reason? Because she’s looking to place blame – I surely have never had a thing to do with her before this!

          • Joseph Philbert

            Why not post a snippet of the post she sent to you and clients..

          • Anonymous

            At work right now lol, I’ll try to remember to post more later

          • Anonymous

          • Not again!

            So many funny things in there. Does she forget that all of her prior theft is discoverable and that she is the one looking ad federal jail time, not anyone that outed her. That brings me to the next point. She is ASSUMING you are the one and only one that outed her. If she’s wrong she’s making accusations that she would have to pay for as well.
            I wonder how proud her husband, daughter, and parents would be if they know the entire truth. If she keeps pushing this, they will most definitely find out. Perhaps even through the plexiglass in the jail.

          • Anonymous

            She has such a way with words…

        • The only person sabotaging her business is herself! She STOLE OTHERS WORK, USED IT COMMERCIALLY WITHOUT PERMISSION, MISREPRESENTED HERSELF TO CLIENTS!

    • Not again!

      She STILL has STOLEN PICTURES on her page! EXPLAIN THAT ONE!

    • Joseph Philbert

      When did she apologize? Did I miss the memo?

      • Photo Stealers

        She sent out an email “apology” to some of the photographers but it had a lot of qualifiers as to why it wasn’t her fault.

        • Joseph Philbert

          Yea I saw those … Like you said it was full of holes and quite empty..

        • Anonymous

          Thats called an excuse, not an apology. Lol.
          And I have not received an apology from her for the way she has continued to harass me or my clients.

    • Joseph Philbert

      She was using way more than stock photos do not attempt to soften that … It was deliberate. If she made a honest apology and did not create that cyber bullying fiasco no one would care..

      • notproductive

        I did not see all of the pictures, and I agree with you that taking the pictures was not the right thing to do. Just knowing her however; I can’t agree it was deliberate. As far as cyber bullying, that was directed at the other photographer who felt threatened. I still don’t find it necessary to constantly post on her sites, calling her names. You said your peace, find a resolution.

        • Joseph Philbert

          How is it not deliberate?? She used an program to create and upload several images on her site. How else did it happen?? Some strange unexplained mystical reason? Just because you know her does not change the fact it happened..

        • Joseph Philbert

          You know just incase your forget the meaning of the word.

          de·lib·er·ate
          adjective
          diˈlibərit/
          1.done consciously and intentionally.
          “a deliberate attempt to provoke conflict”

        • Grrr

          Look above at the screen captures.

        • Joseph Philbert

          Selective blindness… It’s a epidemic..

        • Cinobite

          She gives a fake apology and then sets up another page with stolen images and you don’t think it’s deliberate? lol

        • doncalifornia

          You can’t agree it was deliberate?? Dude, she REMOVED PHOTOGRAPHERS’ WATERMARKS. That is as deliberate as it gets. She knew who the photo belonged to, she removed any evidence it was theirs, then she posted it as her own. Case closed.

          • Joseph Philbert

            They “know her” is an excuse now a days… these are the kind of people you have to worry about. They will see a video of her robbing a back and still say “no I cant agree that is her on that HD video I know her she would never deliberately rob a bank”

    • Grr

      She actively removed their watermarks/logos. More than one. 🙁

      • Bam 2500$ to 25000$ per watermark removed under the DMCA’s provisions on removal of rights management infromation.

    • Joel

      I am pretty sure we where all new photographers at one point, and I cant speak for everyone on here, but I know that I have never used another persons photographs and claimed it as my own to promote or whatever. In fact, when I found PhotoStealers a while back, I was surprised that people would even do this. I could not comprehend in my head why anyone would do that.

      Look, we all sucked when we started out, but you know what we did? We kept learning our craft, practicing, learning from our mistakes, etc. …actually I don’t care how good you get, you never really stop learning and practicing.

      Other people might be different, but I did photography for years and years as a hobby, till I felt that my standards where high enough to take that hobby to the next step and form a proper portfolio, the legal routes of creating a business, learning marketing, business, accounting, sales, etc and then, and only then, did I actually start working on getting paying clients.

      For me, one of my biggest fears is that I don’t make that client happy. So I do everything in my power to get the best images that I can for my client to make them happy. And what these thieves do by promising the client one thing with pictures that don’t belong to them, and then delivering another is a slap in the face to all the photographers out there that busted their asses to get where they are today. Not to mention especially the photographers they stole from.

      • Melinda Potter

        I’ll never forget the first time I ran into this sort of thing. I was so flabbergasted (lol I couldn’t think of a better word for it). She was receiving critique on a Facebook page when I noticed that most of the images didn’t look like the rest of the crappy ones. I didn’t know what to do or even how to prove what I was seeing. So I just blurted out “Are all these photographs yours? Because it doesn’t look as though they are” and the storm started. She got really nasty really quickly, someone linked to PACT (Photographers against copyright theft) I contacted them and asked “She says she can do this. Can she do this?”and they taught me how to screen shot and whatnot, and all the laws involving copyright. I had never even looked into copyright laws prior to this. “People really do this?!” I was so clueless to this sort of behavior. Why is that?! Because I would never ever think of doing it. Not in a million. I didn’t know any photographer would EVER think of doing it. I mean WTH?! It’s shocking. It’s like stealing from yourself only worse because so many other people get affected and hurt by it. It’s like robbing a store and taking video of it and videoing you using everything you stole and posting it on youtube “Look what I can do!”. It makes no flipping sense to me at all. Then…a lightbulb finally came on. That’s when I realized, they aren’t photographers at all.

        • Joel

          Yes indeed. PS has definitely opened my eyes up, and I took it upon myself to learn a lot more about Copyright Law etc because of it. But just like you, I was just astonished that people would post pics that where not theres to try to “trick” people into getting their business. Didn’t make any sense to me at all.

          • Melinda Potter

            Astonished. That’s much better than flabbergasted. Who uses the word flabbergasted? Lol

          • Justin Case

            I love flabbergasted. I use it as often as I can. That or flummoxed. (didn’t know I could spell it though, that’s a surprise!)

        • Justin Case

          I’ve been making my living in photography since 1995 and as a photo educator for more than 10 years. I have seen all kinds of beautiful and deceitful behavior. But there was always one line that was never crossed: good or bad, you always showed your own work.

          The first time I EVER heard about some one lying about authorship couldn’t have been more than 5 years ago. It was an online photo contest, and the shocking thing wasn’t that the winning image was stolen, it was how many other contests it had already won and how many others were also stolen in the same contest!

          The internet has brought many good things, but the fraud we see here is a direct result of the leveling of the playing field, where anyone can put together a website in a matter of hours that looks just as ‘professional’ as someone who has been in business for years. All they have to do is steal images, words, designs and even logos, and you’re ready to start taking peoples money.

          (For examples, look no further than above)

    • Not again!

      What part of ‘she still has stolen pictures on her page’ is not making sense?
      Great, I apologize that you took offense to my stealing images, but I’m going to keep doing it anyway because I apologized.

      • Joseph Philbert

        Love the sarcasm :/

    • Just a Girl

      Lets not forget that quite a few people spent quite a bit of time trying to explain the gravity of her stealing photos. She said she understood and got it and was extremely sorry and wouldn’t do it again… blah blah blah… ONLY to go make another Facebook page that very night…. with even more stolen images. THAT is not the behaviour of someone who gets it or is sorry about anything other then the fact that she got caught. It doesnt matter how or why she got caught. Theres nothing to worry about or get caught over if you aren’t doing anything wrong in the first place. I suggest that you change your reading options to oldest first and read from the beginning because theres nothing she hasn’t been told already as far as how to fix everything. Jen is an adult… WHY in the world does she need a liaison?

      • Joseph Philbert

        Yep that’s the main reason I decided to stop helping and giving advice to her. No came here hating at first she made worse by saying she understood only to keep doing the same shit like we would not find out.

    • Anonymous

      You should ask her friend just how many people she’s been harassing. Handfuls!

    • Cinobite

      lol, is everyone this stupid?

  • mamaphoto1213

    She used a photo of a photographer friend of mine, as well as many others up here in the New England community, who passed away less than a year ago! Are you kidding? Shame on her.

    • Photo Stealers

      I just found out about that, yikes. 🙁

      • mamaphoto1213

        Yup, that’s about a low as you can get. But thanks to you guys, the community up here figured it out pretty quick. Thanks so much.

    • Joel

      That is just low….

    • Melinda Potter

      We already know she wasn’t thinking of the photographers that created the images, she for SURE wasn’t thinking of the people in them. How can anyone think she cares about her “clients” or the “work” she produces for them? You’re a bad photographer Angel. It’s ok, not everyone is a photographer despite what all the marketers say. you can move on from this. I can think of way worse things than being bad at professional photography services. Just hang it up and try to find something you are genuinely good at. Something that you can be proud of, and not lie, cheat and steal in an attempt to make it work.

      • Joseph Philbert

        Yea it happened to me also those two are doing the same crap

        • Melinda Potter

          so alike. I usually have no problem keeping names straight here. oops

  • Lisa Davenock

    Disgusted that she stole images from Eric Langlois…that is beyond the pale. As for the person who seems to think she was just naive and using stock…sorry, mister. When you deliberately remove a logo and then pass it off as your own, that is no longer a naive mistake. A lot of people are still hurting over his loss, and I hope all the photographers whose work was taken, including those from RAW photo design, get medieval on her ass. Enough already.

  • Jessica S.

    This woman is either a con artist or a mentally retarded person who SERIOUSLY needs some professional counseling for her delusion. She sounds like a chronic liar who has no sense o morality. Who the hell would buy such shitty services from a fraud? Regardless, if she doesn’t wanna owe up to her mistakes, then the rest of us here would continue to sit back, eat popcorn and watch her make a fool of herself.

    Case in point: Mrs. Bates-Fernandez, you ma’am, are a complete and utter MORON. And I will continue to laugh at your demise and refuse to pay you money for providing sub-par services that aren’t even yours.

  • Justin Case

    Oh what a tangled web we weave

    When first we practice to deceive. – Sir Walter Scott

  • Anonymous

    This is SO interesting! I came across this article a few days ago – I had no idea it was about the photographer who would later send me a message, bullying me on facebook about my own business!

  • Anonymous

    For the record, although Mrs. Jennifer Fernandez never calls me by name, I believe I may just be the photographer who she claims is trying to “sabotage” her business. I find this interesting, because I have never met her, and I have only recently even heard of her. I happened to be offering a similar type of session that she was offering, but for a cheaper price (I began advertising well before I even was introduced to her as a photographer). I booked solid, and many of those customers have since told me she has continued to bash me, my business and my work.
    I later received a message from Jennifer, herself, accusing me of being part of cyber attacks, and threatening me with a “Federal Cyber Intelligence Attorney”. She explained she had someone “investigating all that had transpired, because it is serious”.
    I have never once met her, I have never once had correspondence with her, and I certainly never felt threatened by her business, nor did I ever attempt to “sabotage” her in anyway. I don’t know how I can be accused of cyber attacking or bullying.
    I do not appreciate being bullied, by her, myself, and I do not appreciate the threats. She will know exactly who I am when she reads this, so any of her “friends,” (who I suspect are actually Jennifer, herself) who read this, please feel free to tell her that I have contacted my attorney, and she can expect to hear from him shortly.

    • Joseph Philbert

      “Federal Cyber Intelligence Attorney”.????? HAHAHAAH … (not laughing at you)

      • MPR1776

        I was cracking up over that too.

    • Guest

      Annon, take screen shots and then just block her. Don’t feed into her BS. Sorry she’s blaming you for pimping her photography out there with stolen imagery and having someone taking notice of it. She’s a strange one, and to be honest she scares me just a bit. Not because she has the upper hand or anything, but… she seems a little ummm… unstable/unpredictable. Take steps to protect yourself and stay away, far far away

      • Anonymous

        I have documented everything, and I have blocked her. I take Extortion very seriously, and like I said, I have taken legal action.
        And I’m with you – about her being unstable/unpredictable. You’ve got that right!

        • Joseph Philbert

          Good thing! Keep those records and be safe. I know she is not going away.

          • Anonymous

            She should know I have licensing, insurance and a damn good attorney. It won’t be tolerated.

    • Anonymous

      Just some thoughts that popped into my head after posting this….
      A: I didn’t even know she was using other photographer’s images until I found this page two days ago, so I have no idea how she can blame me for outing her. She did it to herself.
      B: Her BS threat about having some federal investigation…. does she even know how stupid that sounds? The part that really gets me, though, is that she steals other people’s images, but threatens me?! She’s the one who could face charges for copyright infringement, plagiarism, and extortion – just to name a few!

      • Joseph Philbert

        Well guess what …. please spread the word to other photographers in your area.

  • Pretty Pics Customer

    I personally have used Jen for photo shoots, she is very professional and courteous. As well I have been in the studio while the sessions where taking place. I have seen her work first hand, I have met families that she has done photo shoots for, I think you folks are taking this way to far. It is easy to sit behind a PC and bash someone, but is it really necessary for you to do this.
    So for the sake of humanity, change the subject and move on. You folks are hurting an innocent person and her business, find something else to do. Please.

    • captain-confuzzled

      quite scary to think what your definition of “innocent” must be. I notice you don’t say that her work is up to the standards of the stolen images that she used to represent her work. Good to hear that she has a professional courteous presence, now with some further photography skills, she has a foundation for an ethical business.

    • Guest

      Dear customer,
      This woman stole photos from professional photographers and then denied the claims. I think you are forgetting that part. Not only that, but if the photographers that she stole from decided to sue her, then they would win and then she wouldn’t have a business to try and save face for. Oh and she isn’t the only thief that this site is concentrating on. Reconsider your stand and see that nothing can come from defending a fake and a thief.

    • Rick New

      Its also easy to sit behind a computer and steal other peoples hard work. So what’s your point?

    • Not again!

      In order to prove you are not a fake, post a link to the gallery with the images she took of you, as well as a picture of you holding a current: news paper, magazine, or piece of paper with todays date on it.
      If you don’t then you are as fake as she is.

      • Guest

        That’s what I was going to say!

      • Rick New

        Excellent, lets see these . . . wait, she doesn’t how good they turned out. Never mind. . .

      • Joseph Philbert

        Dam we asking posters to prove they were a client lol … Goes to show how untrusting we have become because of the continued lies and stupid shenanigans

        • C Sab

          No, it’s cause it’s way too easy for the thief to make a fake account to try and make themselves seem like the victim. If it’s a customer, they should be able to prove it or their comment means nothing. 😛

    • Melinda Potter

      I’m so very happy you have had a good experience with Pretty Pic by Jen. That’s wonderful to hear, but it doesn’t take away the fact that she was misrepresenting her business by illegally using other photographer’s work to market her business.
      I’m also pretty sure that the people in the photographs Jennifer stole ALSO had a good experience with their photographer, and when they signed their release forms they didn’t think their pictures would be used in this way, but only to help promote their photographer.
      If you haven’t noticed, there are more postings after Pretty Pics by Jen. We have moved on, and from what I can see from the current comments under this post, it’s Jen that is having a hard time moving on in an honest professional manner.

    • Guest

      Prove it.

    • Guest

      She’s not innocent! She is a thief, a bully, and a liar!

    • Not again!

      When would you like us to stop?
      When she’s paid restitution to the people she stole from? Hasn’t even started.
      When she’s given back the money to the clients she lied to?
      When she’s made a PUBLIC apology to not only the photography community but the residents of the ORD area? Rather than an apology she attacked and came up with excuses.
      How about after she takes down all of the stolen images? She still has stolen images on her page.

    • Melinda Potter

      Btw I like the name you used to post with. It’s great for SEO

      • Not again!

        BwaaHaaHaaHaa!!!

      • Just a girl

        oooops! This listing is on the 1st page of a Google search…. And just 7 listings above “Pretty Little Liars”. Quite the accomplishment!

    • Joseph Philbert

      You know what? Your full of dog poo.. None of us care hoe nice she was to you or how great she is as a person. She commited fraud and has refused to deal with it and still
      Continues to lie and steal.
      If I had the oppurtonity to bash her to her face if need be.

      Even some rapist are nice people but nice does not change the crime they committed nor are they usally forgiven for it just because they are nice..

    • Pretty Pics by Jen ???

      Innocent person? You think it’s ok to steal someone else’s work and pass it off as your own? She has kept this going by sending “customers/friends” to try and defend her actions, she hasn’t apologized or even seemed one bit sorry. Why would she have to make a new site. Perfectly Beautifully made Photography if she wasn’t guilty? SHE stole work from over 30 photographers and tried to pass it off as her own, not to mention a photographer who tragically passed away. She is NOT an innocent victim, have you not looked at the screen captures above, those were from her site. Get a grip on your morals. 🙁

    • ha ha ha

      Dear Customer – evidently it is easy to sit behind a camera and steal your money too! I’ll let that sit and marinate for a while!

    • Joseph Philbert

      Wait is this Jen again … Seems like her vocabulary and grammatical signature… smh

      • Anonymous

        Yeah I could tell it was her! Does she really think we are that stupid?

        Stop trying to defend yourself. Make your apologies, pay those back who you’ve stolen from and save what very little dignity you have left!

    • Joseph Philbert

      BTW did make another fanpage yet? 🙂

    • ha ha ha

      oh.,….and that studio wasn’t her studio…that was Negroni Studios in Groveland that was most likely rented out to her. Wonder if they are aware of all of this?

    • Justin Case

      I’m sorry Jen, – …errr I mean ‘Pretty Pics Customer’ – but this HAS gone on for too long. You have NOT done the right thing and you have no business BEING in business. Enough.

    • Anonymous

      Also – we are not hurting anyone or anyone’s business. You did this to yourself, Jenn.

      And – if you were in fact one of her customers – doesn’t it piss YOU off that she has done this???

  • Anonymous

    I tried posting these below in the thread of replies… but it wouldn’t let me…
    This is a message I received from our friend, Jennifer.
    Like I said, I wasn’t the one who outted her but I also don’t feel bad – she did it to herself. And I am not afraid of her empty, idle threats.

    • Justin Case

      wow. So it’s all been a big ‘cyber attack.’ I had no idea. Here I just thought that we were trying to show someone how to behave as a proper photo professional. Now I know that I’m involved in cyber warfare and could soon be under attack from a Federal Cyber Intelligence Attorney (whatever that is – sounds s c a r y !)

      (yes, that is sarcasm you smell)

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, the Federal Cyber Intelligence Attorney is my favorite part.

    • Not again!

      So many funny things in there. Does she forget that all of her prior theft is discoverable and that she is the one looking ad federal jail time, not anyone that outed her. That brings me to the next point. She is ASSUMING you are the one and only one that outed her. If she’s wrong she’s making accusations that she would have to pay for as well.
      I wonder how proud her husband, daughter, and parents would be if they know the entire truth. If she keeps pushing this, they will most definitely find out. Perhaps even through the plexiglass in the jail.

      • Anonymous

        When her friends and family find out, she will continue to make herself the victim. She has yet to accept responsibility. Ignorance is NOT an excuse. It doesn’t matter if you “didn’t know something was illegal” – it doesn’t excuse you. And use your head – do you really think its acceptable, even if you don’t know its illegal??? Morally???
        I have to question if any of her real customers (if she has any) ever even caught on? When you receive work from a photographer – that looks NOTHING like what they’ve advertised – doesn’t that raise red flags?
        I didn’t even know she was stealing images until I found this post , when I googled her AFTER she had sent me this. So, no, I’m not the one that outed her. But I’m glad someone did. She even started reaching out to my clients and harassing them! I won’t post any of those messages here, to protect their privacy, but I didn’t appreciate it and neither did they. She is dishonest, unprofessional, and just plain rude.

    • Guest 304

      Brittany Ann I suggest you stay out of this. I don’t mean this as an insult but your baby pictures on your site look horrible. The babies look so uncomfortable in the objects you placed them in and they all look like they have jaundice. Please learn some photography lighting skills. And please do not take anymore baby pictures until you get some formal training. That is a serious job and should be left to the professionals.

      Also if you take anything away from this site it should be that it is illegal to photography with animals and on railroad tracks – which you have been guilty of yourself.

      I am not sure why you are in this conversation. She felt threaten and emailed you. So What! Being mentally ill is not a crime.

      Looks to me like she is not the only one that needs to learn a thing or two about professionalism.

      And if you want to claim that she is bashing you and want me to feel sorry for you I cant. Not after the way you are acting on here.

      • Not again!

        Mental illness is NOT a crime! Fraud is. False accusations are.

      • Not again!

        At least ‘Brittany Ann’ is TRYING and not misrepresenting herself! HER clients know what they are getting.

        • Anonymous

          Thank you.

          Also – With the proper licensing and permits, shooting with live animals isn’t illegal. And shooting on RR tracks isn’t illegal – the TRESPASSING on private property is illegal. If you have permission from the owner of the property, its not illegal.

      • Anonymous

        Also, I don’t know why she felt threatened by me – if you can shed some light on that, I would love that – because I never once had anything to do with her!

        And if she feels threathened, its ok to threaten others?!

        You’re right though – she is mentally ill. Posing as “friends” and “customers” proves that.

      • Joseph Philbert

        Blah blah blah … being mentally ill is not a crime … but being mentally ill and committing a crime is …. smh

    • Joseph Philbert

      OMG OMG OMG! 🙂

  • Anonymous

    I just got off the phone with Jennifer. I reached out to her, because A: I wanted to make it known to her that I did not out her, and B: I wanted to also let her know that if I did ANYTHING to threaten her, that it was NOT my intent, and I apologized for that.
    Jennifer actually apologized to me for the accusations, and the threats. She admitted she was wrong for those things.
    I explained to her that I do not judge a person for a mistake they make, but rather how they conduct themselves afterwards. I can tell from our conversation that she is emotionally exhausted – and who wouldn’t be after this? She does know she made a mistake, and I think she is just at a loss for where to go from here. I am in NO way taking up for her or condoning what she did – but I thought I should make it known that she gave me an apology.

    I told her that I would stay off of this page – because quite frankly, its made me crazy. I told her I don’t want any animosity at all, with anyone. I also appreciate the fact that she was able and willing to have a calm, rational conversation with me.

    In reference to any accusations against me: I have the licensing and permits required to shoot with live animals. I have permission to shoot on the property I do. I would NEVER pose a newborn in an unsafe position, nor do I think a parent standing by would allow me to. I never claimed to be an amazing photographer. I am constantly taking training and classes and reading tutorials to better myself, because there is always room for improvement. I go with a few of my photographer mentors, often, to watch and learn from them. But I would NEVER knowing or intentionally put a client in harms way during a session.

    I have said and received an apology from Jennifer, and I have no reason to continue conversation here. I just ask that my name not be brought up again.

    • Joseph Philbert

      You deserve a merit badge for this … Here is my thing is this could have been over weeks ago if she just listened to us before this became 500+ But her ego got in the way!

      She can end it even now but she too dam stubborn. So I feel you not wanting to be apart of this forum but my self and others will show due diligence until a resolution is made.

      • Just a Girl

        I did wonder why she choose to not pull the stolen images she still has up when I read ” She does know she made a mistake, and I think she is just at a loss for where to go from here.” It HAS to be obvious on the direction she should go…doesn’t it? lol

        • Joel A

          Only thing I will comment on Anon’s post was that the word “mistake” was a mistake. Theft is not a mistake.