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Photography by Jennifer in Bybee, TN

Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/Jenniferlovesphotos
Thumbtack:  http://www.thumbtack.com/tn/bybee/photographers/photography-services
Beep:  http://photographybyjenifer.beep.com/

Not only did Jennifer steal images, she also edited or cropped out watermarks, slapped her own watermarks on the images, renamed the subjects and finally edited them.  Wow.

Update @ 12:30PM

She’s claiming that she’s never stolen images and shared the status update from her personal profile, which ironically has more stolen images.  So the status and additional images have been added.

PS: Thanks for the ad clicks this week!  It’s been a doozy!

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  • Amanda Hunter

    Wow… someone from my neck of the woods this time.

  • oh snap!

    She stole from Jodie? Teeheeheeeee!!!

    • Tamrarae

      Yeah, at least she has good taste! But boy, is she stupid — it’s not like Jodie’s friends and fans will ignore this.

  • peaceetc

    Jennifer, if you read this, I see you’ve posted this on your page:

    “Ok….ti the person who posted a review about me stealing someone else’s images I just have to say they are completely wrong. I Work my butt off to come up with new poses and ideas for everyone’s pics they.and yes I do use pinterest for ideas but my pics are my customers that I have done pics for.if I ever post a pic that does not belong to me I. Always put below it was.that this is not my picture. If anyone that knows me knows that.”

    Copyright infringement is copyright infringement, regardless of your intentions. It is NEVER okay to post someone else’s photo on your Facebook page without prior authorization. It doesn’t matter why you do it — for inspiration or whatever — it is still illegal under US copyright law, and you can still be sued for thousands of dollars for each photo you stole. Yes, stole. You didn’t have permission, and that makes it stealing.

    Remove every single image you have posted which is not yours immediately. The contact each photographer from whom you stole and apologize to them directly. And, above all, NEVER use others’ images again without permission.

  • peaceetc

    Let’s just nip this one in the bud, shall we? I know, it won’t work, but let’s pretend it will.

    To PHOTOGRAPHY BY JENNIFER IN BYBEE, TN, please do NOT do the following:

    1. Flag comments on this listing. We mods will just put them back, so don’t waste your time.

    2. Lie. We have heard every excuse in the book, and you will not come up with something we haven’t heard before. You are not a special snowflake. Nothing you can say will justify what you did, so don’t bother.

    3. Accuse us of slander (because nobody ever figures out it has to be verbal to be slander). We stick to the facts, and if something is publicly available, it’s fair game.

    Please DO the following:

    1. Remove any and all stolen images.

    2. Apologize DIRECTLY to those from whom you have stolen. You owe them that much.

    3. Hope they don’t sue you. Copyright infringement is illegal under the law, and you can be sued for thousands of dollars for EACH stolen image. Yes, seriously.

    4. DON’T STEAL. It’s not complicated — if you didn’t take a photo and don’t have permission to use it from the actual copyright holder, then don’t use it. It’s that simple. Yes, seriously. You claim to be a photographer, so why on earth would you want to use others’ images, anyway? How does that make sense?

    And remember:

    1. If you do it again, you will be caught. Don’t forget — Google knows. Any time someone searched for your business, this listing will come up.

    2. Think about the actual victims here (no, not you) — those whose images you stole. You screwed them over. And frankly, that’s a pretty damned crappy thing to do.

  • Amanda Hunter

    She’s going through and deleting reviews and posts now. lol

  • Kira Silvers

    She just posted her “excuse” or whatever she wants to call it.

    “Ok….ti the person who posted a review about me stealing someone else’s images I just have to say they are completely wrong. I Work my butt off to come up with new poses and ideas for everyone’s pics they.and yes I do use pinterest for ideas but my pics are my customers that I have done pics for.if I ever post a pic that does not belong to me I. Always put below it was.that this is not my picture. If anyone that knows me knows that.”

    • Amanda Hunter

      New excuse….. Photography By Jennifer I do not steal images fromanyone I onlyuse tremor examples if poses I can try to do. I’m sorry if anyonethinks that of me.

      • peaceetc

        Wait, what? Tremor? What?

        So, how does that explain all the cropped watermarks? Riddle me that, Jennifer.

        • Amanda Hunter

          She is removing a lot of posts and responses, but that was posted in the “Posts to Page” section. It was a reply to another person. lmao. That’s definitely a new bingo square I think. “tremors” hahahaha

          • ALP

            I still don’t understand what she meant by tremors. What on earth could she have meant?

          • Suz

            Maybe she was saying she was having tremors, because she was afraid of the wrath of Jodie, now that she realized she totally messed with the wrong person. Otherwise, I don’t think she was speaking English.

          • JD Montana

            “tremor” = “them as”, maybe?

            Replied to wrong comment, so I deleted the other reply. 🙂

      • Guest

        “tremor” = “them as”, maybe?

    • BullShite

      For Posterity see attached:

      • peaceetc

        Thanks, Bull! I had just opened my screencap program to do this, but I’m glad you beat me to it.

        • BullShite

          I had a feeling she might delete it pretty fast, but who knows? Maybe we have one that will stick to the lie for a bit using pure denial (love those)! 😉

          • Photo Stealers

            I still have it up as well.

      • BullShite

        these are the last ones that appeared before deletion:

        • BullShite

          And:

          • doncalifornia

            I added this before she deleted.

  • Aaron Lee

    State Farm notified on twitter…

    • Be my BFF?

      ^^wow. Really? What did u say may I ask? Wish we were friends. I have a few id love for u to invest this much time in torturing. Lol

  • js

    She reviewed herself and only rated 4 stars…..

    • Helena

      More believable that way I guess… Although not that believable.

  • Carly Fuller

    Oh my gosh this is scary!

  • peaceetc

    Jennifer, give it up. You have been caught, the evidence is clear, and there’s no talking your way out of this. You removed watermarks and replaced them with your own. Save your excuses, because we have heard them all.

    Remove ALL stolen work, contact each photographer, offer monetary compensation, and hope like hell they don’t sue you. Also, publicly apologize on your Facebook page to everyone. You owe it to your clients, potential clients, and the photographers from whom you stole to acknowledge your wrongdoing.

    Do it now, because each second you wait, the worse it’s going to be for you.

    • peaceetc

      Also, deleting comments about this from your page won’t help anything. We have screencaps as proof.

  • Aaron Lee

    She looks like a little mean angry chick. Who puts up that profile pic with the pursed lips? She looks like she’s about to yell at someone…lol

    • Ric New

      Lol, I was going to say the same thing. She looks passed in her profile pic.

      • Ric New

        P*ssed

  • Amber Kost

    Dang, she deleted that post as I was reading the comments…how rude :p

    • BullShite

      Scroll down they are saved. 😉

  • Photo Stealers

    This is what she is posting on her person FB. If she was just promoting poses she wanted to try, why would you post pictures and say it’s a sneak peek of a session you did? Why would you rename children? Why would you add your watermark? Why would you reedit the image?

    Oh and you’re not a professional photographer!?!?! YOU ARE CHARGING MONEY!

    • peaceetc

      Well, she’s right about one thing — she’s definitely not professional, but not for the reason she thinks.

    • Ric New

      Her FB won’t be there long, like all the other thieves.

    • BullShite

      “u wasn’t allowed”….. oh my GOD how does this woman have a job in a professional industry? I mean, for REAL??

      • Suz

        Just remember the words “Look, Maw! He daid!” and that is all you need to know about Tennessee (punchline to a true story).

    • V323

      Oh the wording…hurts my eyes….STAY IN SCHOOLS KIDS.

    • doncalifornia

      “I would never mislead anyone on what I can and can’t do.” LOL, except every time she posts photos after stealing them, stripping the real watermark, editing them, applying her own watermark, posting them, adding a new name to the child, and saying how easy it was to photograph said child. Other than multiple instances of doing that, she would never mislead anyone on what she can and can’t do. 😉

  • Aaron Lee

    I’m comment bombing every pic on her FB biz page…

  • paulwood

    Going to her page and calling her out for stealing photography is one thing. Going there and slamming her own photography (“If my photos sucked as bad as yours, I’d steal, too — loser” etc.)… Is that really necessary? Just because she’s acting unprofessionally, does that give us permission to become a lynch mob? Most of us here are professionals. Lets not become internet bullies.

    • Photo Stealers

      THIS!!! Please keep your comments to the theft.

    • Aaron Lee

      Yeah… it’s like making fun of developmentally disabled people for not being smart.

      Her photos are catastrophically horrendous though… I’ll limit verbal attacks to her actual copyright violations…

    • peaceetc

      I agree, Paul. We should stick to the stolen images, and not attack her looks, her own photography, etc. Remember, how we act reflects on Photo Stealers as a site, and we don’t want to hurt its reputation by making it personal like that.

      • Guest

        The reputation of this site is already damaged beyond repair. All of you proved it when you continued to attack a girl who threatened to kill herself. Yes, you called the police, as you should, you talked her through what you thought could be real threats, which was good, but then you continued the attacks. None of you REALLY knows or can know what someone is going through just by searching online. Posting these offenses here is one thing, but a full fledged, relentless attack on every aspect of their lives is another. You lost respect as professionals when you continued to tear her apart after the threats that may or may not have been genuine. YOU ARE NOT JUDGE JURY AND EXECUTIONERS! Step back a moment and go through some of your old comments and ask yourselves “Was this really necessary? Was this what one human being does to another?” Yes, I know, you justify because these people are thieves. I am thankful that our justice system is not modeled after your approach. You cannot and do not know all and you should learn where the line is and practice not crossing it. I also see that you say that not all commentators are like that and so on. Personally and possibly in the eyes of the law, the owner and moderators of this page are responsible for everything that goes on here, just like I am responsible for what goes on in my own house. If someone is hurt in my house, I will be help legally responsible if I could have prevented it and did not. Same principle applies here and to be perfectly honest, I hope and pray that I can see the day that someone successfully fights back to this heartless and judgmental lynch mob. Does the fact that the real photographers/owners of the stolen images rarely come on here and if they do, they rarely join in with the gangbang mentality. Just take a step back and look at yourselves. Would you or do you encourage your own children to behave this way with their peers when they have found them to do wrong? Very disheartening and sad. With that said, carry on, because I know my words will make no difference and you will all mock them and carry on in you pursuit of vigilante justice.

        • Justin Case

          so if you really want to address this, why post as a guest? And why bring it up here and not on the post of Teresa Blau-Kurs?

          I think you have your own agenda and don’t want to look at the real behavior of a girl who abused people’s good nature and CONTINUED to live a lie and post stolen images throughout.

          (Oh, and then there is the horrific, racist, vulgar comments she tried to post all over this site)

          • Marc W.

            IP check in aisle 4

          • U Really That Dumb?
          • Marc W.

            Compared to “jen”?

          • Justin Case

            no WAY she is behind this. Not a single, itty-bitty-little chance.

          • Cinobite

            Just saying, but further up the page “Ric New” posts as Jen, either being Jen or being a troll impersonating Jen. You’ll find the comment where “Ric New” apologises to everyone about how she didn’t know what she was doing was wrong and she was just starting out.

            Personally, I think it’s a troll who was shit stirring by pretending to be the thief.

          • Photo Stealers

            Try and refresh the page, I think the username will flip for you.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Say Hi to Melinda…

          • Justin Case

            don’t you mean Jazlyn Jamison?

          • BullShite

            That is totally “Jazz’s” writing style…. but I still hold that Melinda is way too inarticulate for this type of comment.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            They live under the same roof… 😉

          • BullShite

            Oh yes. 😉

        • BullShite

          Yeah, well we are still waiting for CNN to come and bust down our doors, and I am frankly disappointed that it hasn’t happened yet for some reason. Oh well.

        • U Really That Dumb?

          IP: 94.242.246.24

          • Justin Case

            oooh, looks like a spam proxy!

        • peaceetc

          You have no absolutely idea what happened behind the scenes, “guest.” So I would suggest you take your own advice and stop being the judge, jury, and executioner.

        • V323

          Can you please demonstrate how this site ‘damaged beyond repair’? I’m curious how you came to this conclusion. Furthermore, just how sure are you that photographers that have had their work stolen haven’t been supportive of the work PS does? You know these ascertaintions in your post are simply a diversionary tactic, intended to distract from the fact you stole, correct?

        • Photo Stealers

          Hey Melinda, still not replying to your emailed demands for the IP of the person who outed you. It’s not who you think it was and you are wasting your time pursing that angle.

          • BullShite

            I wonder if it was her BFF Ana? LOL.

        • Justin Case

          from Jodie Otte, one of the photographers Jennifer Bybee stole from:

          “I have ZERO sympathy for grown women who steal from pro photogs and advertising their businesses using these images that do not belong to them. They know what they are doing, and not only is it stealing but false advertising for their clients, and they are using images of minor children that they do not have signed model releases for. Dirt. Scum of the earth. No sympathy here.”

          so now you know, ‘guest’

          • BullShite

            Oh stop now, we all know it’s the THIEVES who are the REAL VICTIMS here!

        • YOU, a thief and a fraud are calling US out on higher morality? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

        • Blah blah blah fuckers !

        • What happened to CNN’s expose about PS are they to busy with the ferguson story?

        • ALP

          There’s a really simple way for people to not become targets of the heartless cult lynch mob vigilantes here at PS. Don’t steal. And if you do steal, when you get caught, don’t make excuses and try to get out of it by faking suicide attempts (the one last week was not the first). Apologize, make amends and be a decent human being. In the cases where that has happened, the post comes off the site.

          • Cinobite

            Ric New doesn’t want us to be a lynch mob – but I’m guessing if a local paedophile popped up s/he’d be the first to be screaming for them to be lynched.

            Jen broke the law – we don’t applaud that.

        • Where is the CNN journalist when you need them. Wait didnt you get called out for stealing also?
          Pretending to be someone else writing some story that never surfaced like what 6 months ago.

        • Cinobite

          I don’t know about you, but I’d much rather some abusive comments on a blog that I can not visit over someone suing me for hundreds of thousands. I know which of the two would be more likely to send me over the edge.

          If I was a photo thief, I’d be praying that they were just going to bully me and not take my house, car and career as a court settlement

        • Justin Case

          “Does the fact that the real photographers/owners of the stolen images rarely come on here and if they do, they rarely join in with the
          gangbang mentality.”

          Read this: http://jodieotte.com/2014/08/theftstealing-epidemic-among-photographers-we-have-a-right-to-defend-our-clients/

          Jodie Otte has had plenty to say above in the comments as well. Get off your high-horse, step out from behind the curtain ‘Guest’ and start being part of the solution instead of being such a big part of the problem.

          I anxiously await your apology.

    • BullShite

      I don’t think those people are from this page.

    • Ditto

    • Cinobite

      I don’t know, you see, I agree with what you’re all saying – to a degree, but if her photography is horrendous, there’s nothing wrong with leaving a comment in the form of a bad review. You don’t get people telling you to not discuss a “coffee shop you went to where they picked their nose and the coffee tasted disgusting”

      You know what I mean?

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    • Aaron Lee

      Friends request still pending…. 🙁

    • peaceetc

      It’s unfortunate her friends on there don’t understand what’s going on. They seem to think we’re just some random people who decided to attack Jennifer, instead of seeing the real issue.

      • ALP

        It amazes me how often friends take the “haters gonna hate” road even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Also, again, I just don’t understand how people don’t see the difference between her photos on her facebook page and the stolen ones. The difference isn’t subtle or slight it’s hugely different. And why do clients not complain?

        • Aaron Lee

          Because they’re all stupid kids from Tennessee?

          • peaceetc

            Aaron, please be respectful. We’re here about the copyright infringement, not to insult people.

          • Aaron Lee

            It was phrased as a question. I think it’s relevant to wonder as to why they might act the way they do. I’m not posting that to her page. 😉

          • peaceetc

            If she comes here, she will see it, and so would her clients, family, etc. I don’t want people thinking we’re just a lynch mob. I know it’s tempting to make jokes about this — goodness knows I get frustrated and want to do the same — but we reflect on Photo Stealers as a whole, and I don’t want us to tarnish its reputation. It does good and necessary work.

          • Aaron Lee

            Sigh… I know you’re right.

            Do I get points for toning it down from what I really wanted to say?

          • ALP

            The question mark is just splitting hairs. I wasn’t looking to insult anyone with the comment. I know there are non-photographers that both post and lurk here. I was looking for insight into what people see when they look at these photos.

          • Suz

            It’s a culture of ignorance, and, quite frankly, the socio-economics of the state. Just watch any one of the hillbilly themed reality shows on TV…those people are real.

          • Christopher C.

            Please don’t insult our intelligence. You know what you posted was rhetorical and intended to be insulting. You weren’t asking a genuine question there. Come on.

          • Aaron Lee

            Yeah… that’s why I “winked” at the end of my comment…

            Trust me when I say that I toned it way way way down.

        • Ric New

          There is no doubt those “friends” aren’t looking at the evidence.

      • Cinobite

        They also don’t understand what “theft”, “copyright” or even “cheap” mean. And I quote “just because you don’t charge a lot DOES NOT mean you are “cheap”

      • That’s why you personally message them with links back to here. So they don’t have to rely on comments that are soon to be deleted or Jen’s side of the story.

    • Cinobite

      “Ok until I figure out what’s going on I have to deactivated my page.I will get back with u all.prayers please because everyone knows if I did wrong I didn’t know it.”

      And there’s Jesus – can I get a bingo on that?

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  • Lindsay11

    I’ve never heard of beep.com but here’s hers. http://photographybyjenifer.beep.com/index.htm

    • Aaron Lee

      Beep Beep!!!! You’re busted…

    • Photo Stealers

      Shocking, at least one image isn’t hers there.

    • Cinobite

      Prints from $6… wow

    • JD Montana

      Did no one else notice that she spelled her own name wrong? *facepalm*

      • Everyone does that at some point… It’s not like she has been spelling her name her whole life…..,wait lol

      • Christopher C.

        It takes a pretty significant lack of intelligence to think that you can steal other people’s photos and pass them off as your own and not get caught as it is. The fact that such a lack of intelligence carries over into other aspects of your life (such as being able to spell your own name) is hilariously unsurprising. 🙂

      • BullShite

        Jenniger would never do that!

        • JD Montana

          At least a watermark (even on someone else’s photo!) is fixable; it’s pretty hard to fix a URL once you’ve screwed that one up. Though I’m surprised it’s not photographybyjenniger.beep…

          • Christopher C.

            Eh, from a purely technical standpoint it’s actually really easy to fix a subdomain hostname (which is what we’re dealing with here). It’d be about 30 seconds worth of work for the person with the proper access to fix the DNS record(s). Even a misspelled domain name can be easily fixed if you catch the error within 24-48 hours in most cases.

            The problem is trying to fix the error AFTER you’ve marketed it. The best solution would be to change all of the marketing to reflect the corrected address and implement a redirect on the old one if possible, but I don’t think we’re dealing with a sufficiently competent person in Jeniger’s case.

      • Justin Case

        Actually, we’ve been referring to her as Jenniger for awhile now… 😉

        • JD Montana

          She can’t spell her name on a watermark or a URL…are we sure it’s actually her name?

  • Lindsay11

    Jennifer, this is a terrible terrible idea. Please don’t photograph on railroad tracks, it is so dangerous and ILLEGAL.

    “Photography. Location. Find a set of railroad tracks and get creative. This backdrop works with clients of all ages as well as groups. Remember that rr tracks are quite popular, so show some originality with props, poses, or perspectives.” http://www.pinterest.com/pin/479563060294176732/

    • Guest

      How do you know the tracks are live tracks? In my area, there are several tracks that are dead, unused for years.

      • Lindsay11

        You might say “Well, these tracks are abandoned”. Unused tracks are not abandoned. They are still owned by the railroad company and you are still trespassing.

        http://digital-photography-school.com/railroad-safety-photographers/

        • Photo Stealers

          Also, if they are at all in working order they can, and will, be used for emergencies. i.e. two trains are on the track and they need to divert.

      • Still private property.

      • Helena

        Pretty simple. Live tracks are shiny. Dead tracks aren’t. They are dull or rusty. Either way, it’s still trespassing.

  • Ric New

    As predicted, both FB pages down. I am only glad that I got here early enough to see them before hand.

    • Aaron Lee

      Show’s over I guess…

  • jen

    I did not know I was doing wrong by this. I am sorry if I was in the wrong because this is when i first started and really didnt know much.

    • BullShite

      You didn’t know it was wrong to REMOVE WATER MARKS from other people’s photos and replace them with your own? SERIOUSLY??

    • peaceetc

      Jennifer, you removed others’ watermarks and replaced them with your own. How could you not know that was wrong?

    • doncalifornia

      you didn’t know that taking the watermarks off someone else’s work and adding your own watermark and posting it and giving the child a new name and saying how easy she was to photograph… was in the wrong??

    • Lindsay11

      No one believes you. But if you don’t know what you’re doing why are you charging money?

    • V323

      Jennifer, to further echo the point you knew removing the original artist’s watermark and replacing it with your own is wrong…just how would YOU feel if someone stole your work, slapped their WM on it & claimed “they didn’t know’? You know damn well you’d be angry as hell someone stole your work and then lied about why. This is what you’re doing here, so stop it.

      • Cinobite

        Her friend commented on her facebook post – IN SUPPORT OF JEN – saying how someone left her a bad review because she (the friend) ask the person (reviewer) not to share her images!

        So her friend kicks off about people sharing her photos without paying/permission, but supports Jen stealing other peoples work. That’s crazy for you I guess!

    • doncalifornia

      jennifer a real apology will be to say “yes you caught me I was trying to fool people. I am going to publicly admit it and apologize sincerely to my friends and clients, and i will contact all the photographers whose works I took, and I will offer compensation and beg their forgiveness.” Not, ‘I didn’t know this was wrong.’ because you knew it was wrong.

    • BullShite

      And is this even a legal, registered business? You know if you do not at least have an LLC, anyone suing you could go after your assets, like your car, home etc right? And do you have insurance? YOU should know what could happen to you if a person was injured or killed during a photoshoot of yours!

    • Justin Case

      Jen –

      Please, please, please, before you get caught up in all the comments and try to answer them one by one, read this: http://stopstealingphotos.com/photography-jennifer-bybee-tn/#comment-1553159865

      It says all you need to understand and take care of this. Then, shut down your computer, think about what you have done and whether you really want to be a professional photographer.

    • Where did you find the automatic watermark app ?

      • Cinobite

        (mod) Looks like Ric New is a troll user. See my flagged comment. They pretend to be Jen and apologise at the start of this thread, half way through they talk about her and her actions using the same user id

        • Photo Stealers

          You may want to refresh the page, sometimes Disqus glitches and displays the incorrect name. I see jen not Rick New.

          • Cinobite

            Ah ok, I was hoping for comments from “her” (if they are)
            Ignore any of my other comments on the page about the user id then 🙂

          • Cinobite

            Yeah I’m getting different names now, Jen, Bina… thanks, I’ll keep an eye on that in the future 🙂

    • Aaron Lee

      Cropping out watermarks, and putting your own on other people’s pictures. I don’t believe you didn’t know that was wrong. The only other option would be an amazing dearth of intelligence.

    • Wes Jones

      I don’t think you understand the seriousness of what you have done. Not only was it illegal, you could be sued for a substantial amount of money. See: http://www.photoattorney.com/whats-an-infringement-worth/

      • Bina

        Interesting site. Being found guilty of even ONE image theft could be life ruining. Intentionally removing someones watermark and inserting your own would certainly be enough to constitute ‘Willing Infringement’. Jen should tread lightly and be groveling at the feet of every photographer she stole from…

        • Even one image at 150,000$

          Not many people could afford that.
          Now let’s do the math …

          21 images at 150000$ = 3,150,000$

          Then addin that removing someones watermark is 2500$ to 25000$ per iamge under the DMCA’s provisions on circumventing rights management information and you see where I’m going with this?

        • Cinobite

          So “Ric New” you are now posting as two different people.
          Way to fuck up, I thought as much at the start, but I’m guessing you were just pretending to be Jen when you posted the apology and you’ve fucked up here exposing yourself as another user.

          • Lindsay11

            I think it’s just a matter of Disqus being wonky. At first it looked like Ric was posting as Jen to me but when I refreshed things got back to some semblance of normal.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Jen,
      Does State Farm know you are using company internet access in the furtherance of a crime? Check your employee handbook and see what the policy is on all of this.

    • Guest

      You are still not taking blame. You did not post for “ideas”. You posted pics of babies and made up stories on how they were “easy to shoot”.

    • Guest

      You are still not taking blame. You did not post for “ideas”. You posted pics of babies and made up stories on how the shoot went.

      • doncalifornia

        Jen you’re not getting the reality that you’ve been caught, the evidence has been captured, it’s never going away, and you are still lying about it to your family and friends. It’s going to backfire when they eventually see this site. On this site it shows you, less than a year ago, pulling someone else’s watermark off their blog photos, putting your watermark on them, describing the child as an easy photoshoot, and giving her a fake name. This was all in an attempt to – say it with me – MISLEAD. You KNOW it was wrong. You just have to recognize that your very best course of action is to admit it, apologize, and try to make restitution. Telling your facebook crowd you ‘didn’t know’ you did anything wrong is just an insult to their intelligence. They WILL find out all about this eventually. You know that, right?

    • ALP

      Really? You didn’t know that taking photos off the Internet and replacing them with your own watermark was stealing? Really? Did you grow up in a cave or on a commune where no one owns property? Because if either of those were true, you might have a case. Otherwise, you knew exactly what you were doing. I’m guessing what you didn’t know is how large the penalties for stealing photos can be. And, honey, a little advice: A lack of remorse and not owning up to what you did will hurt you if you end up in court. Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Own up. Make amends. Now.

    • Bina

      Unfortunately this is more of a “I’m sorry I got caught” than a “I’m sorry I did WRONG.”

    • Cinobite

      Would you start a legal practice without knowing what you’re doing? How about a electricians? A mechanic garage? How about finding a cure for ebola?

      You replaced their watermark with your own, you knew exactly what you were doing and that it was wrong.

      Funny how you Jesus types live in the shadow of God yet don’t know the difference between right and wrong.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Why do you list on your FB page that you are an agent yet State Farm doesn’t list that?
      Why is your ‘friend’ saying you are a receptionist?

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Jennifer Freeman Buckner
    PHOTOGRAPHY BY JENNIFER IN BYBEE, TN

    slowgin37821
    https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.freemanbuckner
    https://www.flickr.com/people/slowgin/

    • peaceetc

      Wow. Is she purposefully not acknowledging the real issue, or does she truly not get it? I would find her not getting it difficult to believe.

      Jennifer, you posted your own watermark on others’ images. Copyright infringement is illegal, and removing others’ watermarks and adding your own only makes the fines go up that much more. What part of that do you not understand?

      You did not use those images for inspiration. You wanted others to believe they were yours. You did not acknowledge they were not yours, and you claimed them as yours by watermarking them.

      No one is disputing you actually take photos of people. That is not the issue, so please stop with that. Seriously. That’s deflecting, and not at all where the real issue lies.

      • doncalifornia

        She’s just lying. She gets it. She didn’t just post those pics as “ideas.” She put her own watermark on them and made up stories about the photoshoot and gave the kid a name. Completely falsified it. AND it was not 3 years ago, it was 12 months ago. She’s just trying to minimize it and cry ‘poor me I didn’t know, I’m poor and stupid and new and these people are being so mean to me!’

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Oh look… She apparently lied here as well… I wonder if her boss knows about this?

      Jennifer, have you come clean to him? I would before the local media does.

      http://www.mattcoughlininsurance.com

      https://www.statefarm.com/agent/US/TN/Jefferson-Cty/Matthew-Coughlin-WKMS44RJ9AL

      • U Really That Dumb?

        I wonder if TN has any laws about misrepresenting yourself as a licensed insurance agent…

      • captain-confuzzled

        Actually, she does appear to have an active license per TN listings

        • Christopher C.

          Seriously, can we stop with the witch hunting? This site is “stop stealing photos” not “stop misrepresenting your insurance credentials.”

          There is no need to go after anything beyond the photo stuff!

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Seriously, when can you figure out that it all goes together.

          • BullShite

            I don’t see it as any worse than posting a mug shot, or another shady “business venture”…..it’s all public information, and could assist in building a case should the victim decide to sue, or a future victim needs to build a case.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Exactly

          • Photo Stealers

            Here is my take on things:

            Often enough for it to be considered possible, “photographers” outed here have been shown to have a criminal record. Sure, everyone messes up in life but when the denials run strong and the professions that they “didn’t know any better” keep coming, people start to dig to see if this person has been caught before doing something unsavory. Patterns continue so I don’t have a problem with it being posted if it’s public record because if someone’s been arrested for something beyond a peaceful protest, it may be information someone would want before handing them their newborn child.

            I do not condone calling places of work and trying to get people fired from jobs that do not relate to the photography industry.

            I do not condone critique of the “photographer’s” body of work that appears to be their own. This page is for the discussion of the theft, not of their work. Let “You Call Yourself a Photographer?” handle that.

            Bottom line: I try to keep this page from being what thieves claim we are, bullies. By keeping to the (public) facts and the issue at hand thus far we’ve been able to keep the integrity of the page and I hope to continue with this.

            Thanks!

          • Ann Richardson

            In regards to the issue of notifying her job, if you keep scrolling down you will see that approximately 5 hours ago Aaron Lee claims
            that State Farm was notified on twitter. I don’t use twitter, and I am sure someone will quickly let me know if I am wrong, but to me that appears to mean that State Farm was notified. I think it was the professional and responsible thing to do when Christopher C. made comments cautioning people to not go too far in regards to contacting the Employers. While I am on here anyway, I will also add that being a photographer in the Nashville, Tennessee area I was insulted by some of the earlier unnecessary negative posts related to Tennesseans and do appreciate that people
            responded to those insults. This is an incredible site that does great work and I think doing things like contacting Employers and throwing around unnecessary insults is counter-productive to the goals of this site. I greatly appreciate and support the work that Photo Stealers does to help photographers and I am appalled by people
            like Jennifer Buckner claiming other photographer’s work as their own. I would hate to see people taking things too far interfering with or taking time away the goals of this site.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            If she is followed by SF on Twitter, and someone outs her on Twitter, SF gets notification that she was tweeted about.

          • Aaron Lee

            I tweeted state farm a link to this post, and I took a shot a Tennessee. The second one, I’ll say was overboard. The first one… no regrets.

            She’s a thief, and a liar. State Farm WANTS to know that, and I hope they look into it.

            It’d be a lot less punishment than the hundreds of thousands of dollars in copyright violation fines.

          • Christopher C.

            No. there is absolutely NO REASON to start calling employers of these people trying to get them fired from their jobs or to start poking into things that have absolutely nothing to do with the purpose of this site.

            If something is sour on the non-photographic employment end, it’ll come out on its own. Elsewhere. This site is for exposing copyright infringement, generally photography. Leave it at that.

          • doncalifornia

            I don’t see that anyone is calling her employer trying to get her fired. I would agree there is no reason to do that.

          • Christopher C.

            See above: “when you search [State Farm] and you call them, they say she is not a licensed agent.”

          • U Really That Dumb?

            That’s not the same as calling her boss. That’s called verifying a fact.

          • doncalifornia

            I still don’t see anything about anyone calling to try to get her fired. You’re assuming that part. You shouldn’t assume.

          • Marc W.

            *Runs into the other room* “I DON”T LIKE IT WHEN MOM AND DAD FIGHT!”

          • ALP

            S’not my dad.

          • Helena

            Awww. It’s okay. *pats your head*

          • Calling and going “I was wondering if X was employed by state farm” isn;t an issue calling state form and going “I was wondering if this thief and liar exposed on photo stealers really worked for State Farm” might be.

          • Aaron Lee

            Hi, State Farm. I wanted to alert you to a serious situation with one of your licensed agents’ unethical conduct in her second business that may affect your company’s reputation, and the experience consumers may have with State Farm.

            Hi, Aaron. THANK YOU very much for drawing our attention to this very serious matter. We take the treatment of all State Farm customers very seriously, and only want people of high moral standards representing our business.

            That’s how I imagine the conversation might go…

            If I’m State Farm, or a dentist, or a doctor, or a lawyer, and that poor young girl (bless her heart) worked for me, I’d VERY MUCH appreciate being told that she is either a crook, or astoundingly stupid.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            There is one mistake in your comment. They don’t list her as a licensed agent. So you may want to change that to read:
            “Hi, State Farm. I wanted to alert you to a serious situation with one of your employees. Aside from claiming she is a licensed agent, she also has unethical conduct…”

            I’m sure some of the teachers in the group could change that and possibly clean it up, but even if they don’t, I think SF would get the idea.

          • Aaron Lee

            Even more reason to throw her under the bus to SF…

          • doncalifornia

            I forgot the “but” to my comment: But, it is appropriate to present cogent commentary here regarding any and all fraud she has chosen to engage in. It goes to her character, and it shows she is lying when she says if she did wrong she didn’t know it. Etc.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            This site is about outing and standing up for the people that were stolen from. That includes building cases and finding evidence that supports them in court.
            As for calling an employer, no. As for calling local media, YES. What they do is up to them.
            If you have an issue with it, perhaps you need to take a break and do something else for a while.

          • Christopher C.

            That’s not your job. That’s the prosecuting lawyer’s job.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Why don’t you take a break from PS for a while.

          • ALP

            If we were trying to convene a court and subpoena people, that would be an issue. But private investigators do this kind of work all the time. And the information is out there. No one is doing anything illegal or inappropriate here. When someone does, the mods are on the ball about dealing with it. None of the people investigated here are minors or unable to defend themselves.

          • Lindsay11

            In fact, I remember someone had come here (I think probably to make trouble) and started calling the stealer’s home. This was before there were mods and we all quietly and calmly came together and told them that wasn’t cool. This is a smart professional group that can moderate itself quite well. The mods are extremely helpful but no one in this group goes out of their way to make trouble or do anything illegal.

            Hell earlier on this thread we asked someone to tone down the type of comments they were making and they did.

          • You are taking this way to seriously.

          • captain-confuzzled

            anyway, simple answer, don’t do shady shit and you won’t be listed here.

          • Christopher C.

            This I agree with.

          • So when a reporter does an expose on someone they should just focus on one thing and ignore the larger picture / pattern?

            Why does this have you so worked up?

          • Christopher C.

            Photo Stealers is not a news outlet, and we aren’t reporters. Photo Stealers is about people who steal photos, not doing a complete exposé profile on every submission.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Actually that’s where you are wrong. PS IS a media outlet and a news source. It’s the LEADING source on photo stealers.

          • Christopher C.

            PS is a blog.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Hello, this is 2014. Get some help for your CRI.

          • ALP

            And blogs are part of the media landscape, much as the hardcore print journalist in me wants to deny it.

          • Justin Case

            It’s true. And this is the comments section. Free speech only works when everyone has access to it, including those whose speech you disagree with.

            I firmly believe that fighting lies with information, especially when accompanied with proof, is the best way to advance the cause of this website. The rest is often just opinion, and that is also comment and free speech.

          • Aaron Lee

            It’s a website, and an information portal. Blogs can also be news sites of course… But the word blog is shifting in meaning over the years.

          • ALP

            I work with reporters who don’t have the investigative skills of the people here, nor the time or dedication. We’re not going to change your mind but you’re not going to stop the people here from uncovering fraud, photography and otherwise. So maybe you need to do some serious thinking if you want to hang out in the comments here because I don’t see them changing any time soon.

          • Are you the founder of PhotoStealers? No.

            Are you responsible for accrediting publications as news outlets? No (no such thing).

            Do you work for a federal or state department that controls and polices free speech? NO (no such thing).

            Then who are YOU to decide what can and cannot be discussed here?

          • Christopher C.

            Please point out where I said anything shouldn’t be discussed?

            I pointed out that it’s probably inappropriate to go after the things people do that have nothing to do with stealing photos. At no point did I make any representations whatsoever on the discussions that “can and cannot” happen here.

          • “This site is for exposing copyright infringement, generally photography. Leave it at that.”

          • Christopher C.

            …meaning in the actions that are taken by members here. You know, the context of the rest of the post.

          • Aaron Lee

            False. Photo Stealers is precisely a news site. It may be a niche publication, but it is a news site in its purest form. It happens to cover a narrow patch of a certain industry, but PS is legally no different that CNN or The Wall Street Journal in terms of the first amendment.

          • BullShite

            It IS our job, and I will tell you why.

            When you put yourself out into the public, as a business or as an artist or as a writer, or as a criminal, or politician, or musician….anything like that, YOU OPEN THE DOOR.

            You open the door to people QUESTIONING you… and when the pieces don’t fit because you are not only deceptive, but TAKING MONEY for your deception, you have also by default, asked for the results, good and bad or neutral, for CHOOSING to be in the public eye.

            This is the RESPONSIBILITY of giving your self the title of “business owner” or ” photographer”.

            She CHOSE to come out to the world as a “photographer” and as a “business owner”. She chose to put out her flag and say “hey over here”! Unfortunately she also CHOSE to LIE and to STEAL.

            Welcome to the new age, where everything is available, and justice does NOT always come in a courtroom or with handcuffs.

            SHE opened the door to having her public life investigated. This is NOT a “witch hunt”.

          • No one is going to call her boss nor would any of us care too.

          • OtterMatt

            Interesting how I don’t see your name with a “mod” sticker next to it. Hmm… I guess you don’t set policy limitation for this site, then, do you?

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Not every mod has the sticker due to a number of reasons, but yes, you are correct in this one.

          • Christopher C.

            Ok, then I’ll quote the founder of the site who responded in these same comments.

            “This page is for the discussion of the theft, not of their work.”

            She summed it up pretty succinctly. 🙂

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Correct, not their work as in their pictures. That is all she is talking about.

            Remember, without the continued investigation there would be no updates.

            If you have an issue with this you have two choices:
            1) leave
            2) deal with it and keep quiet

            As you failed to heed her prior warning, if you continue to argue this point I will remove you.

          • ALP

            There have been so many stealers lately that extend their fraud in all directions (make-up, travel planning, wedding planning, etc.) that it doesn’t seem unreasonable to look into what else they may or may not be doing.

          • Christopher C.

            If you want to start a site called “Stop Fraudulently Representing your Work” then do that. That’s not why PS is here.

          • Lindsay11

            If Corey had a problem with it, she would have said something oh… two or more years ago. You don’t seem to understand that coming into a group and lecturing them about the way they have consistently handled things isn’t the best way to go about making a point.

          • Christopher C.

            I see, so it’s okay to start inappropriately digging into a person’s employment on this site but the minute someone chimes in and says “hey, that might not be cool” herd mentality takes over and up goes the wall of “THIS IS HOW WE’VE ALWAYS DONE IT SO STOP LECTURING US.”

            If this witch-hunting is how you’ve “consistently handled” things on this site, I maintain that you’re consistently wrong.

          • We have done this very same thing to each outed stealer for the better part of 2 years #smh

          • Lindsay11

            Again, I’m not sure why you think you have the right to jump down people’s throats when the person who runs this site doesn’t seem to have a problem with any of the actions taken here.

            I think URTD is right and you need to take a break. Or maybe find the site you are looking for: onlylookatstolenphotos.com

          • Justin Case

            “Firefox can’t find the server at http://www.onlylookatstolenphotos.com

            (sorry, it’s all getting way too serious around here)

          • captain-confuzzled

            must’ve been photo thieves, gone as soon as LIndsay posted their address, running for the hills! (yeah, I clicked it too, u got me good! 😛 )

          • Waves arms wildly while pointing at himself saying
            Witch hunter right here !!!!

          • Justin Case

            (as he straps on his paintball-gun holster)

          • ALP

            You’re my hero.

          • Aaron Lee

            I completely reject the idea that we are ” inappropriately digging into a person’s employment”.

            Totally appropriate. Well warranted. And a service to the industry, and society as a whole.

          • captain-confuzzled

            why does it bother you so much? We generally use only public information that is readily found on the web. If someone is behaving fraudulently in other areas of their life, I know, I’d want to know before I did business with them. I know for me, I often don’t post info that I find (like the possible conviction for misdemeanor theft for this one 6 years ago), if it doesn’t seem currently relevant or useful to someone who needs to know whether to do business with them.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Cap,
            Would you please contact one of the mods via FB-PM. Thx!

          • captain-confuzzled

            okee dok, am up on PM on FB, any particular mod?

          • U Really That Dumb?

            The good looking one! 😉

          • captain-confuzzled

            but..but..but…they are all so good looking! 😉

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Good answer! Very PC!

          • captain-confuzzled

            have tried a couple and not getting response, so perhaps mod could contact me.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            🙂

          • ALP

            If you don’t like that people are revealing public information about people committing fraud, maybe you’re in the wrong place. If Corey wants anything toned down, she takes care of it.

          • We’re establishing a pattern of lies.

          • Aaron Lee

            It’s not a witch hunt if she’s a lying thief. Her CLEAR lack of morals and/or grasp on reality (and English) represents a threat to anyone she does business with in whatever profession she claims to practice.

            We are like the white blood cells of society, attacking disease.

        • U Really That Dumb?

          Fascinating, because when you search SF and you call them, they say she is not a licensed agent.

          • captain-confuzzled

            hmmm, that is weird

  • Lindsay11

    This might be the closest we’ll get to her apologizing, but notice how she’s the victim here? Jennifer, you removed watermarks and added your own. You knew what you were doing and you knew it was wrong. Remove every thing stolen and don’t do it again! https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.freemanbuckner/posts/765383563500796

    • Marc W.

      It’s because her friends on FB don’t know the truth of what she did.

      • Lindsay11

        Well evidently we are all just “haters”!

        • Marc W.

          Yes, we’re just jealous of her stealing.

        • BullShite

          Seems right.
          (Attachment)

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Hi… I already posted that… 😉

      • BullShite

        And don’t forget this! 😉

        • Lindsay11

          “You didn’t do wrong”???! Jennifer, don’t you feel bad lying to your friends and family?

          • ALP

            The crimes against grammar are bad enough but once again we get the I’m sorry I got caught apology.

          • Suz

            Grammar, hard. Lying, easy.

        • peaceetc

          If you’ll excuse me, I have to go bang my head up against a wall now.

        • Ignorance of the law isn’t a defence.

        • Jesus.. She is manipulative sad..

      • Lindsay11

        Hi!

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Jennifer,
    Post a link to this page on the front of your FB page so all of the people you are still lying to can KNOW that you are a fraud and a thief, otherwise it’s going to be even more embarrassing when the local media airs this AND you loose your job over it.

    • BullShite

      Seriously though, if she did no wrong, why not ENCOURAGE friends to go read it to vindicate her?

      • U Really That Dumb?

        Exactly!

  • JD Montana

    You know, it baffles me, because when I was starting my photography business, I never even had the slightest inclination to steal someone else’s photos and misrepresent them as my own. Not once. (Though I guess that just goes to show my naivety, because I’m also the girl that never realized food workers did stuff to people’s food until I heard people talking about it when I was 19 or so…and I was even a food worker for a short amount of time!)

    I guess I just don’t understand how people can have such a sense of entitlement for something that they put in about .00000001% of the effort that the original artist did (all that screenshotting/right-click, Save-as/cropping/Photoshopping out watermarks/adding a WICKED SWEET vignette/etc. has to account for at least .00000001%).

    My point is, I wish people would just stop.

    Learn something. Do more with yourself. Be a better person. Just don’t feed upon the talent of others to make yourself stronger; don’t be a parasite.

    • Justin Case

      I hear ya’ JD. I think I could have written your exact comment myself when I first discovered this site (well, leaving out the food stuff).

      What I have learned from my nearly one year here commenting is that it sometimes takes quite a bit before we can get some of these people to stop. And then there is always another one right over the horizon.

      But don’t despair. You and I will eventually get tired, but thankfully Corey Ann doesn’t. And just imagine how much worse it would be if there was nowhere like this site to fight the good fight.

      • JD Montana

        I’ve been a part of the “Silent Masses” for a very long time; commented as a Guest a couple times. I’m glad this site is here, and I’m glad I haven’t seen any of my stuff featured. Lol

        • Lindsay11

          I’m right there with you, it really is shocking how many thieves and defenders there are out there. Also I too did not realize the food thing till way late in life and I try not to think about it! You’re not alone!

          • JD Montana

            Glad I’m not the only naive country girl! Lol On that note also, I REFUSE to watch Waiting (the movie). Refuse.

          • Lindsay11

            OMG I didn’t even know that existed. I was so much happier 1 minute ago! :p

          • JD Montana

            Haha! Sorry to ruin your life!

          • Photo Stealers

            Oh I’ve seen it. Ick.

        • ALP

          I feel like being stolen from is a right of passage I’m missing.

          • JD Montana

            You’re a useless hack unless someone is stealing from you. 😉

          • ALP

            I’ve outed stealers? Does that count?

          • JD Montana

            Definitely. And we thank you for your service to our wonderful community! 😉

    • Preach!!!

  • Melinda Potter

    I took the time to read all the comments here… it’s gotten rather heated huh? But really, all I have to say is ewwwwwwwwww! It seriously creeps me out when the stealers have stories about photos they didn’t make *shivers*. Top that off with having the photos in question be of someone’s children and well… I’m even MORE creeped out. It’s just plain strange, deceitful, attention seeking, horrible and kind of sick in the head behavior. Sorry if this seems too personal, or too insulting in any way, but… It was my first gut reaction to all of this. This particular stealer scares me a little bit, and makes my stomach not well

    • doncalifornia

      I know where you’re coming from. Giving a fake name to a kid in a picture you stole, and attaching a fabricated anecdote about working with the kid, is that last step OVER THE TOP for a stealer.

    • Christopher C.

      There are unfortunately way too many people out there just like this one. Compulsive liars who have no issues with making things up to try and fit their imaginary narrative – and then they lie to try and justify why they did what they did in the first place

      It takes a certain kind of personality to pass someone else’s work off as your own, and it’s a big mess that rarely ever resolves itself.

      • U Really That Dumb?

        “Compulsive liars who have no issues with making things up to try and fit their imaginary narrative – and then they lie to try and justify why they did what they did in the first place”

        THANKFULLY THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE FINDING THOSE THINGS OUT, because if we all took your advice NONE of those things would have come out.

        I strongly suggest that you read the responses to your comments below.
        If this isn’t the place for you, then that’s OK, we understand. We wish you all the best.

        • Photo Stealers

          Stop bickering.

    • captain-confuzzled

      I know, so creepy! I mean its not “oh, there’s a pretty pic to put on my page”, its more like “oh that’s a pretty pic, let me carefully edit out the watermark, think of a name for the child, imagine what it would be like to photograph said child, put my own watermark on it and then brag to people about my work.” So much energy expended in imaginary land that it makes you wonder for sure.

      • Photo Stealers

        You missed editing it to reflect your own personal vision instead of the original artist’s vision.

      • Melinda Potter

        So the child was “so easy to photograph” and that’s why it turned out beautifully? So her actual clients are just too difficult? I picture her blaming the client if she ever had a complaint about quality. “How come my pictures look like this, and the ones I saw on your page look so much better?”

        “It’s because you were so difficult and not as attractive” :/ Yes, I’m giggling over here, but it’s not very funny is it?

        And this type of stealer is another reason why I would never agree to have a hired photographer sharing our family images on the internet. I don’t think half the faux togs (if not the majority of them) out there even ask though, let alone have releases. They just awkwardly put people on the spot and show their “sneaks” without any concern for anyone but themselves and their egos…or whatever high it gives them that I don’t at all understand

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  • Jodie Holstein Otte

    I’m one of the photographers stolen from and if you know me, you know I will let my voice be known online….. Here’s my take on this kind of thing…. http://jodieotte.com/2014/08/theftstealing-epidemic-among-photographers-we-have-a-right-to-defend-our-clients/ I just cannot believe the excuses people give. She says she “didn’t know.”? So she didn’t know that taking a photo that does not belong to her and then making a complete fabrication (i’m sorry, maybe I should use smaller words) or LIE like it was a client and even post fake names for the children? That’s just absolutely psycho behavior. That is not normal brain function there.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      I hope you go after her for everything you are due!

    • V323

      Read your take. BRA-FUCKING-O. This is a real example of what most who have had their work stolen feel, and it should be shared EVERYWHERE.

    • Lindsay11

      I read your comments on facebook earlier today and I am sitting here cheering and rooting for you! I am so glad you are publicly standing up to this thief and calling attention to this epidemic among fauxtographers! Thanks for posting this so we can all read what you have to think. I think you’ve written really well about how it feels to be stolen from and how stupid the excuses are!

      • Jodie Holstein Otte

        Thanks Lindsay – I was a full time photographer for years and years…. and now I acquired a day job and photography is secondary for me… so it’s now “no holds barred” when it comes to what I blog about – I have nothing to lose…. 😉

        • peaceetc

          I look forward to that. 🙂

    • Christopher C.

      Great post! Very well-written, and totally reasonable. Well done.

  • Jodie Holstein Otte

    oh and she called me… I did not answer because I was at my day job and because I want things in writing. I learned that a long time ago. Oh, and one of the children in these pictures of mine has a mom who is a producer for a local news station. Just saying.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Sad and SICK!
      Good on you! Keep everything in writing!

    • Cinobite

      If it goes to press/air – post here so we can follow along 🙂

    • BullShite

      OH WOW. Just…. man she chose the WRONG PERSON.

    • Why do stealers go to such great lengths ???

      • Jodie Holstein Otte

        I have found many of them are bored stay at home moms who thrive on the attention of being a “photographer”… and if they don’t have clients yet, they desperately steal… cause they want to be a pro the quick and easy way, without education, work, and time….

        • Justin Case

          …until they get caught, then it’s “I just do this for fun, I don’t charge much, I’m just learning” while all their friends tell them how “talented” and “blessed” they are.

          Yep. We’ve seen plenty of that around here…

          • Kira Silvers

            I am a stay at home mom who has recently picked up photography as a hobby..and then decided to choose it as my career. I love photography and it sucks when I don’t get business. But as much as I want the business and the glorious photos, I have never resorted to stealing photos…I don’t have the formal education, but I have studied my butt off, put my time in, and still learning.
            I understand what is being said, but I thought it was kinda ironic that I am a stay at home mom who strives to be a good photographer (without the attention of being a photographer)

    • Marc W.

      Have you thought about recording it? This way she couldn’t say “I didn’t write that”.

      • Jodie Holstein Otte

        Pretty sure it is legal to record people, but cannot be used in court unless it is disclosed to them that you are recording.

        • Marc W.

          If you tell her that you’re recording it, it’s fair game.

        • U Really That Dumb?

          It’s based on your state laws. Where I am, only one party to the conversation needs to be aware that it’s being recorded.

          • Suz

            Same in my state.

        • I can do it 😉

        • peaceetc

          Your state seems to be a two-party consent one (this is Celine, by the way).

          http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations

        • BullShite

          From what I hear, if someone leaves you a voice mail, there IS no “expectation of privacy” as there would be if you were to record a call without asking. This is why psycs and physicians don’t leave sensitive voice mails.
          Worth looking into at least.

    • doncalifornia

      Jodie BTW I looked at images on your site and you do fantastic work!

  • Wes Jones

    On her Beep page… what is “focal black and white”?

    • captain-confuzzled

      thinking this is another way to describe the dreaded selective color technique

      • Wes Jones

        I wonder what she calls a vignette? … A fuzzy-edgy-thingy?

        • Justin Case

          ‘ovalish brightness control’

    • peaceetc

      This has nothing to do with anything, but seeing “Oh her Beep page” made me think you were censoring a bad word. I am so easily amused.

  • Morgan Payne

    I personally love Jennifer. IDC what any of you say about her. I WILL continue to let her take pictures of my daughter. Maybe she thought ur pictures were good & used them for ideas. Take it as a compliment. This is blown way out of proportion. Smh! Jennifer is a sweet girl & was perfect with my daughter. How dare u do her this way.

    • BullShite

      NO. She PURPOSELY removed the water mark of the original photographers, and replaced them with her own. THAT IS A THIEF. The fact that you insist upon defending her illegal, and and questionable behavior that is NOT “inspiration” says a lot about you.

      You have a daughter? How would YOU FEEL If I took a picture of her, posted it on my website, called her Suisie, and made up a story about how “fun” it was to shoot her photo? Do you UNDERSTAND how VICTIMIZED that would make you feel as a parent? How is that OK? It’s NOT.

      It’s IMMORAL, and WRONG, which is EXACTLY the way your “friend” behaved.

    • Aaron Lee

      Awwwwwwwwwwww Yisssssssssssssss!

    • Lindsay11

      So, if you aren’t Jennifer, maybe you should take a moment to find out what your friend really did. She stole photos from hard working photographers. She removed those photographers watermarks. Then she slapped her own watermark on the stolen photo and made up stories about her “clients”.

      So no, this isn’t blown out of proportion, however admirable it is you want to defend your friend, find out what she’s really done.

      • BullShite

        She also has a criminal record, which I am SURE she informed you of, while hanging out with you and your child, right?

        • Lindsay11

          I would be SO upset if I found out my” friend who is perfect around my daughter” didn’t let me know she had a criminal record.

        • Aaron Lee

          Do tell! I missed that part.

          • BullShite

            Capin’ Commented that he(?) found a criminal Misdemeanor for theft going back six years, I found something different that I am trying to confirm 100% from last year if it’s definitely her.

      • chuck knuckles

        Has anyone done an IP address check between “Morgan” and Jennifer’s lame apology/lies below?

    • peaceetc

      Morgan, I don’t think you understand the situation. Every photo one takes is inherently copyrighted. When someone else uses that image elsewhere without permission, it violates the copyright. Jennifer stole from professional photographers who make their living from their photos. Stealing their images takes money from those photographers, and it violates the integrity of their work.

      Jennifer might be a nice person — I don’t know, and frankly, it’s not relevant — but her actions were anything but nice. Think about it this way — what if someone came over to your house and stole something of yours — your TV, for example. They liked it, thought it would be good to have, and just took it. What would you say then? Would you be okay with that if it happened to you? No, I’m sure you wouldn’t. So why do you think it’s okay for Jennifer to do something very similar to someone else?

      AND what if that person turned around and sold that TV? They made money off of something of yours. Would that be okay?

    • Jodie Holstein Otte

      So it’s blown way out of proportion, is it? So if a kid came up to your daughter and stole her favorite toy, Ipod (or whatever is age appropriate for your daughter), and walked away with it, put their name on it, and said it was theirs, that’s okay with you? What if someone stole your car? You okay with that too? My clients are VERY upset that she took the pictures of their children and made up fake stories that they are her clients. Do you want to tell my clients that all this is just okay, and they shouldn’t be upset?

      • Jodie Holstein Otte

        and how bout this – maybe the 10 or so photographers that she stole from – maybe we should all get together, pool our funds, and prosecute…… for a fact, your friend would have fines to pay for stealing the images and using them as her own. There is no judge in the world that is going to let her go with a “oh, she’s just sweet….”

        • peaceetc

          Those fines would be pretty big, too, Morgan. We’re talking thousands of dollars for each photo. The fines are bigger because she removed the watermark. There is a very good reason why copyright infringement is illegal in the US and most other countries.

          • Christopher C.

            I would love to see a wronged photographer successfully prosecute one of these people. It’s only a matter of time and I can’t wait.

          • peaceetc

            Photo Stealers said there have been lawsuits, but I don’t know the details.

          • Photo Stealers

            Other photographers have sued in the past. A friend of mine sued (along with her client) and won about a year ago.

          • I think there should be a page of those who filed lawsuits and won.. agaist the photographers outed here. Hell even on going litigation…

            The money awarded is not needed just the fact that it does and can happen is good enough

          • Justin Case

            According to ‘the Copyright Zone’ lawyers, nearly all settlements regarding copyright infringement have non-disclosure agreements attached. This makes it tough to get exact details, but needless to say it does happen and whenever lawyers are involved, sums get quite high quite quickly.

          • Most of them will have NDA’s. 🙁

          • Could easily hit over 3 Million.

    • Helena

      Morgan, if a photographer took a picture of your daughter, and displayed it on their page/website, and called her a different name, and made up a story about the shoot, and you found out about it, would you be okay with that? Or would you feel incredibly violated?

      Add to that she stole not only from the parents of the infants, but also the photographers, who hold the copyright of those images, and this is anything but “blown out of proportion.”

      • peaceetc

        Good point, Helena. That’s what saddens me most of all — how she could make up stories about others’ children, steal their images, and present it as their own. Why would anyone do that?

        • Amy Marie Parish

          that´s called pathological lying…she probably believes herself as well.

        • Helena

          I find it so creepy when people make up stories, especially about children. You have to be a special brand of sick to think it’s acceptable.

          • You can’t fix stupid

            What scares me the most about this is the most of the time these so called photographers are moms themselves. I would go ballistic if I came across images of my kids with different names etc.
            This is like the sickest of the sickest thing you can do.

          • Helena

            Yeah I’d be sick to the stomach and furious I’m the same position as the poor parents of these images.

          • peaceetc

            It’s funny how these stealers never seem to think about that. The photographers aren’t the only victims, and to steal images of others’ little babies… it’s just so wrong. If I were one of the parents, I would feel violated. You just don’t mess with kids. At all.

    • Christopher C.

      Who you choose to do business with is no one’s concern other than yours, but I think you need to get a little bit of perspective on what Jennifer actually did here.

      You may think that taking photos and posting them is a simple matter, and considering social media in this day and age that’s true. Unfortunately in this case the pictures weren’t posted to say “look at this great photo,” they were posted to say “look at this great photo that I took.” That’s blatant misrepresentation, and is highly unethical. It’s also extremely disrespectful to the people who originally created those works. That’s not complementary at all.

      Her being great with your daughter does not in any way excuse what she did, nor does it give her license to continue this behavior.

    • You can’t fix stupid

      Guess what? I am a very sweet person. SO tonight I will come and steal your car. Really you don’t need to worry and I a very good with kids and as I said, I am very sweet.

      Bullshit! She stole, took off watermarks, made up stories about kids and then LIED and said that it was for inspiration. Bull fucking shit. Inspiration is linking a photos saying “Wow, this is cool” Stealing is loading it up as your own and taking credit for it. Your friend is in deep shit and I suggest you read what she has done, get yoru head out of your arse and pay attention

    • chuck knuckles

      Morgan, she may be a ‘sweet girl’ who’s ‘perfect with your daughter’ – but shes also a criminal, a thief and a liar. The internet is chucked full of ‘sweet criminals’ that are ‘perfect with daughters’… beware.

      And Jennifer, do you know what “Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time” means?
      Let me break it down for you: Don’t do things that you KNOW are wrong, unless you are willing to suffer the consequences for said actions! The consequences you will suffer for your thievery and lies is just starting, and will undoubtedly get MUCH worse. Think today was bad? Better clear your calendar.

    • Melinda Potter

      She may very well be a sweet person, but she’s not a good photographer or someone who cares about her clients. How do I know this? Photographers do NOT display other people’s hard work and claim the work as their own. They care about and build relationships with their clients, and would never take the photographer/client relationship so flippantly as she has done. She has misrepresented herself and her skills by stealing, and has in essence said “eh, who cares? It’s all about booking more sessions”. You may think she’s sweet and kind, but she’s just playing you. She cares about you just as much as the children and the parents of the children in the photographs she stole. NADDA I’d like to be able to say that I find it admiral of you to come and defend your fauxtographer like you have, but…I actually find it quite ignorant considering the evidence.

    • Amy Marie Parish

      Morgan, it is always ok to be inspired by other artists work. It is absolutely never ok to post other artists work on your website, put your own copyright on them, and let people assume those are your images. While she might be sweet, the copyright law was broken by her repeatedly. Period. Nice doesn’t excuse breaking the law.

    • Wes Jones

      You just don’t get it. Using someone else’s photographs in ANY WAY without their permission is ILLEGAL. Removing watermarks and adding her own just adds to the crime. A sweet disposition has absolutely nothing to do with image theft. It is a CRIME.

    • Justin Case

      ‘Sweet’ girls don’t make up lies in order to cheat friends and strangers. If you want to life a life surrounded by people who take credit for work they had nothing to do with, that is on you.

    • Marc W.

      You love Jennifer. That’s fine.
      You will use her to take more photos of you and your family. That’s fine.
      She _looked_ at other people’s photos and wanted to try to replicate the type of shot. That’s fine.
      She took other people’s photos and put them up on your “Photography by Jennifer” Facebook page – NOT FINE!

      Oh Morgan, Since you think it’s OK to use other peoples’ photos as their own and change their name/story, I’m sure you won’t mind me using this photo as my future child’s photo? I’m a sweet guy, so yeah. Just take it as a compliment that I’m using your baby’s photo as my own child. My own little Sally.

    • CkOne

      First, let’s just deal with the legal aspect of it. Photos, like music and movies, have copyright protection. and using them without permission from the copyright owner (usually, but not always, the photographer) is illegal and carries financial consequences. There is no arguing that. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. Not knowing the speed limit does not prevent you from getting a ticket. Plain and simple. Now let’s deal with the ETHICAL principal of this situation. On a photographers webpage you would assume that all the photos you see are that photographers. Now yes, there could be a section of favorites by other artist or inspiration but common sense would say that i should give credit to my source of inspiration. maybe i don’t know that is the correct thing to do, maybe i forgot. i don’t post anything… okay, poor taste and ignorant but whatever… but now i take photos from other people, removed their logo, replace it with my own, post them and address the people in the photo by name (who’s name i really don’t know and the real photographers have spoken up and said that the names are wrong) and tell about how easy it was to photograph them… then that is a willing act. that was not an accident. that shows intent. and i am sorry that your friend is going through a hard time and is probably embarrassed and maybe feels like a victim. but she is a victim of her own actions. how would you feel if someone else took credit for your work? How dare we treat her this way? How dare she take credit for others work?

    • ” Maybe she thought ur pictures were good & used them for ideas. Take it as a compliment.”

      I hjust stole your car. Take it as a compliment, it means I thought you had a nice car.

    • V323

      Oh we dare. We. Dare.

      Catching up on all of this, I’ve noticed how Morgan went *poof* once reason & logic were brought in to the discussion. Drive by trolling!

      • BullShite

        All of those friends that were “praying” for her, and offering all of their support are surprisingly absent from this. Maybe it’s too hard to look at all the evidence and come up with something other than “she’s nice”.

    • So loyal … good for you. I hear child molesters are nice people too and great with children. Would use one as a baby sitter?

      Not saying Jenifer is just making a point

  • Amy Marie Parish

    Morgan, it is always ok to be inspired by other artists work. It is absolutely never ok to post other artists work on your website, put your own copyright on them, and let people assume those are your images. While she might be sweet, the copyright law was broken by her repeatedly. Period. Nice doesn’t excuse breaking the law.

  • Douglas

    The difference between the stolen images and her own are radically different unless she stole the bad images too. Bad on ya Jen…

  • Amy Marie Parish

    You know, I find the writing of Barbara Kingsolver really inspiring. I think I’m going to put some of it on my blog, and sign my name to it. And hopefully get a paid book writing contract or two, and maybe publish that piece under my name. I’m sure she won’t mind, since I’m really nice…

    • peaceetc

      I’m sure she’d be totally flattered!

    • Melinda Potter

      Yes, a total compliment. Better than winning an award for her work

  • Local

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  • Local

    Wow. I came across this post after I tried finding her personal FB page as she and I are friends. It had been deleted. Then I tried pulling up her photography page and it too had been deleted. I then googled it and came across this and I am speechless. Not sure where to start. I will say I also know Morgan and they ARE NOT the same person nor related. Jennifer does work at State Farm but she works at the front desk. She collects payments, answers phones, and can do quotes. I’m pretty certain she isn’t licensed in anything as those representatives have offices and so forth. She is just at a desk/window. I thought maybe she was just “misunderstood” as I have seen her post numerous times “not my photo” until I looked at the evidence. WOW. She is sweet. Perhaps “troubled” at times. Seems like she did get into trouble for something……..but I’d like to know where are you photographers located at and how did u learn of this? I’m just stunned. To me, the scariest part is the fact that she named families and children she didn’t know nor shoot. That is disturbing from a psychological stand point. Sad really. Her mental health is obviously not well. Again. Wow. Now I am familiar

    • Melinda Potter

      The people who post comments here on the blog are from all over the place. Location is neither here nor there. I don’t know the particulars of how this thief was discovered, but usually they are found out when they “network” or join like ladders, and promote, promote, promote themselves, and a photographer actually takes the time to actually look at their work…and BLAM! They see the differences in quaility and consistency, and a quick reverse google search confirms.
      I’ve discovered quite a few thieves by being active in critque forums and photography groups. Yep, they come and ask for critique of “their work” or to ask advice on somthing, and think no one will notice or care… Or maybe they started to believe the lies they tell?

      • BullShite

        It wasn’t PhotoStealers who outed this thief. I think it was another photographer, because at LEAST two people posted to her page to take down the stolen images, and one of them said they were reporting it to PhotoStealers.

        So she had PLENTY OF TIME and WARNING to take everything down, but instead chose to play innocent “victim” and deny everything because apparently removing watermarks and altering photos is “inspiration”.

        • U Really That Dumb?

          There are screen caps of her playing games and actively lying yesterday. She can’t come clean now, it would ruin her! Besides, based on their comments, her friends and family all still believe that all of those pictures are hers and everyone is jealous of her work so they are fabricating lies.

          • It’s funny how innocent photographers shutdown both business and personal pages when they have done nothing wrong.

        • Melinda Potter

          That’s usually how it plays out too. They know they’ve been found out well before Photostealers gets wind of it, and they do some sort of “nanny nanny boo boo! There’s nothing you can do about it! Just TRY and stop me!” and/or they just outright refuse to address it. Freakin stupid. When the jig is up, the jig is up. Don’t be an idiot

      • Amy Marie Parish

        Jodie Otte has been on a national level as being top in her photography field for years. She has instructed workshops, written books, etc. Jodie does reverse google searches to find where her images have been misused. It happens to her work all the time. Unfortunately, Jennifer really did pick the wrong photographer to steal from, because Jodie is so very we’ll known. And then she stole from multiple other photographers. And then she claimed they were her own images by replacing the watermark with hers, and giving made up information about sessions that she never took….all of this publicly on her site and fb. She really made it to easy to find. And she has really made a huge mistake here.

        • Melinda Potter

          I’m familiar with Jodie Otte. Both her photography work and words of wisdom. I must confess, that at first, when I read the posting, I didn’t pay attention to the original artist information, and was just flabbergasted over the faux togs actions in this case. Then as I read the comments I found out Jodie was one of the photographers who was infringed upon, and went “OH DAMN! This girl is seriously busted!” Jodie is not one to sit silently, or back down about anything industry related. That’s why she’s so well respected. Well… at least that’s why I respect the heck out of her. The girl’s got mojo.

          • Local

            She did write a very nice piece on her fb fan page. I was very please with her maturity and the approval she used. She does care about her clients and that was impressive. She handled bet verbiage well and I can tell not only is she an amazing photographer but she is well rounded, educated and mature.

          • Hmmmm

            Something is screwy with the word choice, syntax and grammar in this post. Doesn’t seem to have been written by the same “local”.

          • Local

            See what I mean? Lol. It’s me.

          • You can’t fix stupid

            Her apology on a page that she took down? She didn’t apologize. She played the victim. Where is the public apology to all her clients for lying to them? Where is the public apology to all the photographer who she stole from? WHere is her apology on this site?

          • She did no such thing if she did then she shut down her fanpage before anyone could read it ….making it a pointless apology.

          • Iocal

            My GOD BABY JESUS I WAS TALMING ABOUT JODIE. CLICK THE LADY I WAS CHATTING THIS TO AND U WILL KNOW WHO I WAS REFERENCING.

          • Amy Marie Parish

            Looks like Local was talking about Jodie…who has publicly posted very articulately regarding this debacle and many others. She has been very vocal about the state of the industry in the last year or so. The photo thievery is just one more bit to the puzzle. It’s no wonder the photography market is so saturated and the quality so diluted, when everyone thinks they can be a photographer and stands on the shoulders of real career pros by taking their work and trying to pass it on as their own, with no ability of their own to produce such quality work. Jodie, as well as a lot of us, has had to forego the career path of full time photography and take on other work in order to make a living. I personally had to start working full time in graphic design. However, if you pay close attention to business trends, and Jodie has been quick to also point this out, there may be an eventual upside to this. Only time will tell. At any rate, I say once again, Jodie Otte is the wrong photographer to “wrong” and has every right to her outrage. We all should be outraged.

    • NB

      I have to ask, what exactly did you Google to find this page?

      • You can’t fix stupid

        She Googled “Where do all the cool cult members hang out” LOL – sorry but you knew about this page, you came over to see what was happening. Lair liar pants on fire.

      • Wait you are right … Google did not index her name on this site yet … It takes a day or two … Dam liar lol!

        • Local

          Started 20 hours ago. Last night it said 12. Why would I lie??

          • I take it back 🙂

          • Local

            Thanks. At least one less idiot I see on here ;0)

          • Lindsay11

            Yeah, call everyone here who hasn’t stolen photos and committed fraud an idiot. Nice way to win people over to your side!

          • Local

            I was referencing all the ones who
            1) think I’m Jennifer
            2) think I’m Jenniber
            3) think I didn’t find this on google
            4) think I lied/defend her
            5) think I’m uneducated and can’t spell
            6) think I care if they sue
            7) think that I don’t understand the LAW

            I work in it and am around it DAILY

            I don’t care enough nor do I want to type out all the laws to prove that it’s not a clean win/win situation.

            But I do hope it proceeds as they victims wish and I do hope I get to see results.

            Everything I’ve stated has been solely MY opinion so why everyone wants to just be ugly and confrontational to someone who stumbled into this page BY GOOGLE and decided to participate in a discussion board but it’s now out of hand and ridiculous. And I did sleep last night! But for all this bs, I should’ve opted for a few more hours :0)

          • Lindsay11

            You slept for all of four hours. That doesn’t sound like someone who just wants to post here warning people that suing might be hard (wut?). That sounds like someone terrified that they are about to be sued and are trying to mitigate that. OK, so you just want to post here. All you’re doing is calling people idiots and saying it’s hard to sue.

            If you know the law why were you surprised by how much she could be sued for? Why do you think no lawyer would touch this? Why were you surprised that pay could be taken out of her paycheck? Why do you think we can’t read all the things you’ve written? Why do you think we have bad memories?

            So again, I’ll ask you, why on earth are you posting here and what exactly do you want to accomplish?

          • U Really That Dumb?

            I’m still waiting on an answer on why you keep changing email addresses if you are truly unbiased.

          • Marc W.

            At least someone here and not some “photographer” (points at Jennifer) can accept what they did/said and apologize.

      • Local

        I googled “photography by Jennifer…..Bybee TN” which is exactly what we use to google to get to her page. A friend was wanting her info and she was not on my FB Friends list anymore and ironically, neither was her photo page so i just went to Google and typed in the above and it pulled up the PS don’t steal site.

    • You can’t fix stupid

      Her webpage is still up –

      • Local

        Really? Post a link to it

        • Marc W.

          The 3rd link at the top of this page.

    • People get posted on here sometimes when an original photographer is doing their regular web theft sweep for their images and finds a stolen image. Sometimes a reader will stumble on a Kijiji/Craigslist/Facebook ad that looks suspect and with minimal digging finds a prolific thief.

      It depends.

      Even posting “not my photo” doesn’t excuse her legally from violating copyright law. She needs explicit permission from the copyright holder to display that image anywhere UNLESS her use falls under fair use clauses. Just posting an image you like isn’t covered by fair use.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Sorry but two links above still work so that claim is a lie.
      As for who you are? If you are a truly unbiased party, then why do you keep changing email addresses?

  • Local

    I am familiar with the law and it is indeed a crime, however finding a lawyer to take this case, the money that it will cost you and the end reward is not worth it. Unless you are satisfied with paying out a lot of $$ and humiliating her you can’t get blood from a turnip. If you win, trust me. You still will lose. So with that being said. Do as you wish. As a parent I would be upset she used my child’s picture and made up names and stories etc……but in the end the question that will remain is what damage was really done. And honestly. NONE. Sure she lied and stole, but what came from it. I’m sure you did not lose business nor would you. There are click perverts all over the world using your photos already for purposes you would rather not think about. However, you don’t know…….so the fact is unless they aren’t posted all over social sites she isn’t the only one to “use” them.

    • Aaron Lee

      Obviously she doesn’t have any money to go after…

      As for damage, there doesn’t have to be any. There’s a statutory penalty for the act of copyright theft.

      If it was me she stole from, I’d be on the phone with her boss.

      • Local

        Sure. You can sue for any reason. And yes those laws are in place. But by lawyers, they are seen as petty, they will try to talk you out of it or dissuade you from proceeding because the outcome will not out $ in either pocket……and what will her boss do? Most everyone lies, drinks, smokes, drugs, etc and as long as it doesn’t interfere with her current job nor is it done on their time, they could care less. Sure. She may be seen from the few who know the real story as a liar, a sociopath etc………but I highly doubt even it it’s made known to the public everyone will run up to State Farm and cancel their car/home insurance cause some girl who works there took credit for photos. No one will care.

        • Wes Jones

          Lawyers don’t classify copyright infringement as “petty”, there are plenty of lawyers that do nothing else but copyright law.

          • Local

            Well…..but they are for BIG TIME moneymaking corporations with LOGOS that would have big financial backing, such as famous photographers and magazines and so forth. But I could be wrong. Maybe if they win they will post the lawsuit on here with the outcome so we can see…..

          • Photo Stealers

            On EACH photo Jennifer removed a watermark from the fines start at $2500 and can go up to $25,000 PER IMAGE. That’s before the penalties for copyright infringement even take place. Maybe to you that’s chump change but to the rest of us, that’s a lot of money.

          • Local

            Well all I’m meaning is LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU GET PAID!

          • Photo Stealers

            Of all of the photographers in the world to steal from, your friend stole from one of the few that would most likely sue. So, I guess we both shall see what happens.

          • Local

            Oh. We aren’t necessarily friends. Acquaintances perhaps is a better term. And by all means sue away……like I said prior. You can win a lawsuit all day long. But years down the road if you still haven’t received compensation, what have you really won?? I know several parties and have sat along side them, they won 100’s of thousands of dollars but have yet to see a dime. Probably never will so……….??
            I’m not trying to have a confrontation nor take sides etc. I guess I’m just in shock that it was found out and is now on a discussion board and reached this level. I guess I’m just curious as to how this works and like does the people commenting and tracing IPs and background checks etc, I’m just over here wondering like is this for fun. For drama. Do they have jobs or are they paid to do this? Just in awe I guess u could say :0)

          • Photo Stealers

            Not for drama, because we are sick and tired of “photographers” like Jennifer. They come in and set up shop and start charging a pittance for their work, which brings the entire value of what we do down. The images they are showing to gain that work isn’t even theirs, so people THINK they are getting this great deal and end up disappointed with the images they end up with. Are those people likely to ever save up and hire a professional photographer again? No, they aren’t and that not only hurts the photographers these people are stealing from but also the photographers that actually do this for their full time job, not just a side gig because it’s a “passion” in our lives. I’m not only standing up for photographers here but for clients like you as well that were lied to because you should be able to trust that when you’re looking at someone’s portfolio you are looking at THEIR work and what you will be getting when you pay your hard earned money for it.

          • Local

            So ur friend that won a yr ago, did she get her settlement? If so may I ask what was it?

          • Photo Stealers

            Yes she did, although not all at once. They are garnishing his wages for the remaining balance. I won’t give a sum but it’s over $150K.

          • LOL just imagine paying about $500 dollars a month for about 15 years. Does anyone want to have to do that … HONESTLY?

          • LOVE HEARING THAT!!!!

          • Garnishment is not fun …and its REAL. No one likes it. I know a friend who was in an accident at 19. A few years ago they (government) stop garnishing her wages. They (the government) garnished her wages for over 15 years through multiple jobs.

            She paid over 100,000 for the car and hospital expenses … I dont know about you but getting a few hundred bucks a month from someone who stole from me sounds like a win win.

          • BullShite

            (She’s losing it even more here….. I don’t think she “got” how REAL this is until now…. if only she’d taken them down on the FIRST warning, and issued a REAL heartfelt apology. Oh well!)

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Even if the case never makes it to a judge, the attorneys for the defendant almost always insist on a NDA for any settlement. Even if it’s just for payout from a magazine using an image past it’s license. So no, you likely will never know what the figures are.
            As for typical figures:
            Magazine XyZ uses an image in print that they only had a web license for, they are looking at a bill in the 5 to 6 figure range. Do they want the world to know they ‘stole’ an image? Nope! Not in a million years! So, what do they do? They have their attorney call the photographer’s attorney and say OK, we see you are billing us for $xx,xxx.00. If you agree to an NDA we will pay you that + legal fees within 10 days. Yup, that’s how it goes in the REAL WORLD.
            Do they try and blame the web guy? Intern? Someone else? NOPE! They PAY IMMEDIATELY! Why? Because they want to be able to get images from not only that photographer again, but every other professional photographer (since we all talk).

          • BullShite

            I love when photo thieves are in “awe” that there is an absolute LEGION of people willing to volunteer hours and hours of their time to bring these people to some form of justice.

            Like it’s a surprise that decent, law-abiding citizens can get sick of THIEVES, and LIARS, and FRAUDS, and take action against them.

          • Failure to pay can lead to seizure of assets, garnishing of wages, destruction of credit rating … good luck getting a house, a car, paying for your kids college or university tuition with that hanging over you.

            Employers also REALLY hate having to deal with wage garnishing.

          • Wes Jones

            You could be wrong?… yes you are.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Wes,
            The problem is “Local” has no idea what they are talking about. They think they know the law, but it’s clear they are clueless.

        • Aaron Lee

          You can’t sue “for any reason”. There’s a thing called “frivolous lawsuit”.

          Obviously she’s not worth taking the time to even call a lawyer, but I can guaran-fucking-tee you her boss would care. That’s assuming her boss isn’t a lying thieving scumbag, of course.

          This is easily something you would fire a dime-a-dozen receptionist for. At least a serious strike on her record. Maybe her boss will read the comments about her possible criminal record, and do a county records search…

          She’s not an insurance agent, her boss is. If she was my employee, I’d have serious concerns…

        • Hi Jeniffer or her friend

        • BullShite

          Actually I would want to know as an employer if my employee lied about their criminal history to me, ESPECIALLY if they were handling MONEY. However I do see it as her/his job to ensure that he checks up on people he hires, and hopefully he already knows.

          • Local

            Lol. Wow. Again. I’m not Jennifer. I left out theft because that’s normally not what working citizens do on their “off time”. However, my point was the majority do normal things that the employer may not like or agree with, such as bars, drinking, smoking, recreational drugs…..these are not illegal where theft is.
            Do you see the point I was making?
            I left out child porn, strip clubs, chicken fights, prostitution. Does that make me someone else?? NO. Point was legal activity that is done is no ones business. I see that she did commit theft, but not the kind I feel STATE FARM would give 2 shits about. And
            If she is sued and “lawyers up” with enough $$ she could get out of this. Blame her mentality and so forth. But. Everyone on here seems to think I’m uneducated and “dumb”. When she loses a lawsuit and you all get billions I will publicly apologize and admit I was so wrong and apologies that my opinions were false.

          • Lindsay11

            LOL no she cannot get out of this! She stole, removed watermarks (which adds extra $$ to this), slapped on her own and made up names and stories of her “clients”. She’s a thief and a fraud. How on earth do you think she won’t have to pay up?

            Again, why are you posting here? Can you see why some people might think you are Jenniger when you are posting here day and night in her defense?

          • BullShite

            Sorry, the only people that can sue, or that have grounds to, is the photographers and the models, and the parents of the models. The rest of us do this because we are sick of this bullshit.

          • So very sick of it.

          • BullShite

            OK “Not Jenniger” who types and spells like Jenniger, and who knows a LOT about Jenniger, yet doesn’t care for her or know her well, who uses pretty shoddy reverse psychology tactics, all the while bringing up things that no one who was either Jenniger, or someone related to her (like a spouse) would bring up, such as “gee its an awful waste to go hire a lawyer who won’t take this little old thing seriously anyway… oh but go do it! However even if you do it, it’s not like you are gonna get anything! LOL”

            Then as soon as someone brings up the very REAL reality of wage garnishment until it’s paid off (they can garnish your taxes too!) and the fact that lawyers are going to LOVE a case where all of the evidence is laid out…..

            “U are typin suddelny goes downhil meaning u aint used to typin normal grammer, and ur under som kinda stresser srmethin. Jus lik Jenniger.”

            What else?

            OH. The criminal history…. sorry if I was only acquainted with Jenniger, and didn’t know anything about her criminal history other than her theft that was posted here, THAT would be the only thing I mentioned, because it was the only evidence I had….. NOT the most recent criminal offense which was NOT posted (which you also try to brush off as “nothing”, which is odd) something I DO awfully STRANGE that you would mention specifically.

            When you do this for as long as I have, (even before PhotoStealers) you notice patterns. Most humans are NOT psychologically complex. Most have no CLUE what information they give out, just by typing a few sentences.

            So there you go “Not Jenniger”.

          • “Point was legal activity that is done is no ones business. I see that she did commit theft, but not the kind I feel STATE FARM would give 2 shits about.”

            It shows a lack of integrity. That’s a problem when you deal with confidential information like client files.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            The problem is that the state licensing board DOES care.

        • Do you know what most copyright infringement cases require from a lawyer?

          Writting one letter that they already have as a template.

          The theif gets a letter saying pay this amount (let’s say 1000$ for arguments sake) or we go to court with potential of several million dollars. The lawyer charges maybe 120$ and the client takes home the rest.

          Time spent on this? Maybe 20 minutes.

          Well worth it for the lawyer.

          The case doesn’t even need to head to court.

    • peaceetc

      It’s not about the money, it’s about standing up for what’s right. There is a huge difference. If you don’t stand up for what is right, then what do you have? Certainly not integrity.

      So it doesn’t matter if Jennifer has money, or if Jodie and the others from whom she stole would see any profit from this. But to suggest they shouldn’t do anything just because of that is frankly a ridiculous notion.

      • Local

        I never said they shouldn’t do anything. In fact, kudos to them if they proceed. All I meant was they may win but it’ll be at their financial loss. Been there done that. Integrity. Yes. It would be nice if everyone did as right thing when other weren’t looking, however that’s something that a court can not force upon you. You can’t make someone have it. Nor morals or ethics or any of that. And apparently there is mental issues…..so again. I never suggested they shouldn’t do anything. Not sure where u seen that. I actually said post the lawsuit when it’s said and done.

        • captain-confuzzled

          so, what exactly is your point? real question. You are right, you can’t make someone have morals or ethics, but if you can prevent them from damaging customers or the industry by putting them on notice that what they have done is not okay, then this raises the overall reputation of the industry, thus a better experience for customers and photographers.

        • peaceetc

          You wrote:

          “I am familiar with the law and it is indeed a crime, however finding a lawyer to take this case, the money that it will cost you and the end reward is not worth it.”

          I would take that as a suggestion that they not bother.

          • Local

            Well that is u “assuming”. I know how much I’ve spent and wish I would’ve taken the advice of council. I was just stating my opinion. So, let me rephrase that for everyone who thinks I’m Jennifer or I’m trying to persuade anyone against legal action……IM KNOW JENNIFER AND SUE THE HELL OUT IF HER.

            BETTER????

          • U Really That Dumb?

            My attorney takes most copyright cases pro-bono. Especially ones as cut and dry as this one. So for them, it’s not about the settlement, it’s about stoping image theft!
            Yes, I get that it can cost you money. Yes I get that attorneys want to make money. Again, not going after the people that steal reinforces image theft and as I’m sure you can see by now, that’s not something that we are OK with.

          • BullShite

            (It was here where she broke down and started using the terrible spelling and grammar, that it became more than clear who this is without question…. Ha-Ha!)

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Lack of sleep worrying over your future can do that to you.

          • Local

            It was where? Not following u

          • Lindsay11

            What are you trying to accomplish by posting here friend of Jenniger? Jodie has probably already started the process of suing her. If anything you should be begging Jodie, not us. We aren’t the ones suing her. I just can’t image what you think posting here is going to do for Jenniger, except raise this page even higher on google and call more attention to what a thief and a fraud she is. Is that what you were trying to accomplish?

          • Local

            Lol. I’m not a friend of “jenniger”. In fact. I do not know a jenniger

            However I do know of the Jennifer this discussion board is about. I’ve not once defended her. Nor am I trying to now. Maybe when Jodie wins big she will throw you all out a couple hundred k

          • Lindsay11

            OK, so what are you trying to do?? Why have you been posting all night about someone you barely know? You do realize how suspicious that makes you look, right? Look, I don’t care if you are Jenniger or not, I just think you’re being fairly ridiculous here. “Don’t sue her it’s not worth it you won’t make any money and a lawyer won’t take the case!!!1”

            It’s almost like Jenniger doesn’t want to be sued or something…

          • Photo Stealers

            Your first comment here was defending her and saying that you used her for a newborn shoot and how wonderful she was with your baby. Which is it Morgan? You may have deleted the post but it doesn’t mean you deleted the memory.

            She used “Jenniger” in one of her watermarks.

          • Lindsay11

            Yeah, I mean, I was trying to be polite, maybe that’s how she pronounces her name or something! 😉 It couldn’t be that she was so lazy she stole images and quickly slapped her typoed name on them so she could go steal more, could it? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152305329258657&set=a.10150108570378657.270916.506498656&type=1

          • Marc W.

            “Yeah, I mean, I was trying to be polite, maybe that’s how she pronounces her name or something! ;)”

            When she’s drunk.

          • Local

            Lol. I don’t have a newborn and I am not Morgan. I do know Morgan and she is not Jennifer, as others have accused.
            And I now get the “Jenniger” comment.

          • Photo Stealers

            I just realized you aren’t the same person, my mistake.

          • You have to forgive us… we have had many many outed stealers who have pretented to be several random concerned citizens, fake customers, family members, etc. So the mods and regular members raise an eye brow anytime we see an anonymous person defend or try to derail the forum. IT happens very very often. So we lean on “its the stealer” before we think otherwise.
            So far the record is 8 separate alias saying different things from one ip address

          • Marc W.

            They are just saying that you and Jennifer can’t spell worth a damn. At least online. It’s like you’re all talking txt spk. 4serious.

          • Helena

            OMG totes!

          • Marc W.
          • Helena
          • Local

            Oh. I can spell. However all this typing is coming from a smart phone so I do occasionally short cut words and I did notice several grammatical errors reading back through old post. Again. I’m typing all this from a cell phone. And last night I was actually in bed. No contacts in still caught up. Lol. Aside from the photography police I see there are also grammar police on board. Yikes!!!

          • Lindsay11

            Yeah, because I totally post all night defending someone I barely know. I even stay up in bed to do it!

            I don’t see grammar police, I see people pointing out that you type and spell exactly like your acquaintance. You asked what people were talking about and he explained it to you.

          • Marc W.

            To be fair, I don’t think this user is “defending” Jennifer.

          • Local

            Thx. I am not. And I didn’t stay up all night either.

          • Lindsay11

            I still not actually sure what she is trying to do but “defend” was the best and most generous word I could think to use. “Why are you coming here driving up SEO and posting all night about someone you barely know??” is what I’d really like to ask!

            Oh wait, I get it, it’s some enemy of Jenniger’s who wants to make her look bad? Got it.

          • must be the area and the school… you know the dialect in small towns.

          • Some one just may sue her since she has not come clean. Photographers usually don’t want the hassle of suing some one because of the up front cost and time and an apology is all they need to not go forward. BUT spit in their face, lie, and hide and by principal alone they say F it and tell their lawyers to let the dogs loose so to speak.

          • Aaron Lee

            Not sure why people are hammering you. I think you’re pretty much pointing out the obvious, and not defending her.

        • Not everyone who sues does it at a loss I know quite a few that won and make money from it. Yes the upfront cost can be high, but when the case is over between garnishment wages and or selling of property they money will come.

          • Helena

            Selling of liquid assets sounds like a good way to recover money. Camera would be a good place to start.

    • captain-confuzzled

      so extrapolating your thought process, no one who breaks the law should be prosecuted for anything. Just say, oh well, you stole that tv from me, but its okay, you didn’t harm me. No accountability is needed in society? Having said that, damage is actually done as described below in terms of the industry as a whole in terms of customer expectations, product value and business integrity. If many people experience a fraudulent photographer, then the profession as a whole is degraded, which hurts both customers and photographers.

      • Helena

        I only borrowed your car, put 20,000 miles on the clock, crashed it and had a bad re-spray, but we’re good right?

        • JD Montana

          Oh yeah, definitely. It’s not like I can find anyone to sue you for damages or anything, so don’t worry about it. I’ll just pay for the repairs myself.

    • What I don’t get Local is what are you trying to achieve with your comments? I think everyone here is well aware it’s difficult to sue someone with little prospect of actually getting money and that he/she doing the suing might actually lose moeny.
      We get that. Most here have been dealing with this for a long time (or have legal backgrounds).
      So again, what are you trying to achieve/get across? Not attacking you, I just don’t get your angle.

    • Helena

      “finding a lawyer to take this case” Erm what? If you’re paying them, they will take the case. Especially one as cut and dry as this.

      “what damage was really done?” Violation of privacy of the parents of the children. Loss of earnings for the photographer. Damage to the photographer in terms of reputation seeing as there may now be badly re-edited, watermarked copies of her images on the internet casting doubt on whether the original photographer took the images in the first place. Copyright infringement. Sure, she lied and stole, and she should pay for that mistake.

      I think humiliating her, and financially crippling her, is a good place to start in discouraging her, and others, from falsely representing themselves with images that they have stolen. I get that you’re trying to discourage the infringed parties from taking legal action, but actually there are a lot of reasons to take this further. I’m sure a lot of people would be more than willing to donate to help with legal costs if an example could be made of one of these fraudulent fauxtographers.

      • There are not many lawyers that won’t take a case for money even if they might lose … Money is still green right?
        How many lawyers lose custody cases but some how they still get paid..

        • Helena

          Exactly. I’m sure they’d be happy to take on this case, a guaranteed win, where there is surely enough assets like a house, car, electrical items etc that can be liquidated in order to pay legal fees and fines.

          • Marc W.

            Not only that, there are some people, I’m sure, that would take these “photographers” to court just to make a point, to make a presidence. (is that the right word / usage?)

          • Helena

            Precedent?

          • I would. No pity here!

        • “Money is still green right?”

          Not in Canada it isn’t … our money looks more like monopoly money. 🙂

          http://www.craigmarlatt.com/canada/images/images&downloads/currency.jpg

    • Ric New

      I wonder if you actually read you own post. The scary part is, you are raising children (I assume). Wow

    • CkOne

      Forget the lawyers, and all that stuff. what i find offensive. what i really can’t stand. is that instead of saying “I am sorry, i made a mistake” she paints a picture of being a victim. She gave the kids names (although she never took the photos) she claimed they were taken at a session last weekend (but she didn’t take them) erased and replaced logos, did her own editing. too many things that contradict her “inspiration” excuse. and then goes to try to get sympathy from friends. nope. doesn’t fly with me.

    • In the US and Canada, the loser pays the legal fees.
      “the money that it will cost you and the end reward is not worth it”

      At 150,000$ per infringement plus 2500$ to 25000$ for removal of a watermark under the DCMA’s provisions on circumventing rights management information … it can be VERY lucrative.

      There’s a photographer out in the UK who posted a blog entry where he states he paid off his mortgage with just litigation on stolen images.

    • Melinda Potter

      So what you are saying is… Photographers don’t really have any sort of recourse or way to protect their work from being infringed upon, unless they decide that losing money is worth the attempt at righting a wrong. Or if we feel like fighting a losing battle because money and the resources are at our finger tips, and why not?
      So we should just suck it up and face reality… if we post our work online, people are going to infringe, and there’s really nothing to be done about it. Can’t get blood from a turnip, and really WE are the only ones that find it THAT big of a deal. Even the legal community finds it petty… so… Just let it go. Let the scammer, continue to scam people. No biggy really. No harm was done.
      Sure, we can try contacting the infringer and send them a take down notice or DMCA, but if they refuse, or even go as far to get nasty with us about the refusal… there’s nothing at all we can do? hummmm…. I wonder if it would be productive to start a blog/page dedicated to naming and shaming the photographers who are lying cheating and stealing to make a buck off the hard work of others? I wonder if then, when a person refuses to comply to our take down notices,or pay restitution, or settle with us in a professional manner, or if we didnt have the money and resources to follow through with suing, we would somehow be just slightly less powerless because we can put their illegal acts out there publicly, for everyone to see? I wonder… I wonder if it would be a good idea? Is there a blog like this out there?

      • Melinda Potter

        ya know… just to serve as a warning to future potential clients, and as a warning to those who are contemplating trying to scam on the internet, that they might get caught. Maybe at the same time it could also inform and educate people about copyright law. Man! That would be cool. I wonder too if there are sites out there that allow for public complaints and negative review to help warn others of their bad experiences with a business? Nah… there’s just really nothing to be done. a scammer is gonna scam

  • Just so EVERYONE is aware the poster “Local” is either Jenniffer or one of her friends/customers strange how the IP address is from Tennessee near the same town. She/He is just a troll trying to derail the conversation and blame away from the outed thief. Same M.O.
    #gofigure

  • BullShite

    Dear Jennifer,
    Lawsuits are REAL as this blogger found out, who was only using images on her blog, not claiming them as hers, not trying to be a photographer…. just “using” them. Some photographers are finding now that suing people that use their images without permission is more lucrative than taking them.

    http://www.blogher.com/bloggers-beware-you-can-get-sued-using-photos-your-blog-my-story

    The fact that ALL of the evidence is here, carefully catalouged, and dated, and with more than one witness…. well what lawyer wouldn’t take this? You have a house, that could be taken, and I am guessing since you are so rural, a car. ANY asset can be brought up in a lawsuit.

    You should have deleted it with an apology ASAP, and MAYBE you would not have awoken the ire of a photographer with a gigantic fan base, who doesn’t just take this stuff lying down, and a legion of InvestiGooglers who are TIRED OF UNREPENTANT THIEVES.

  • Local

    Again. I’m not Jennifer. I encourage everyone to proceed with lawsuits. It will not effect me…..I do raise children. Some not even my own. Not sure what bringing children being raised by me has anything to do with this. Maybe to try and “hurt” me. It’ll take more than that. I’m educated and again. I stumbled across this page. She is on Google and was last night. That’s EXACTLY how I found this page. For a few of you, I’m almost seeing that you too are educated and make good points until you start spewing from your mouth things that I KNOW FOR A FACT that are not true which makes me ignore all the other comments I considered true. Such as me being Jennifer. Or that it’s not on google. Wish I would have screen shot the google bar last night.

    • I guess maybe… I am just very suspect.

    • We just get a lot of stealers who create fake accounts to come and defend themselves as past clients or friends on here. We just get a bit jaded. 🙂

    • Justin Case

      I doubt anyone that reads this site is unaware of a google search. Part of the reason this site exists is exactly to raise the SEO of people like ‘Jenniger’ (sic her own misspelled watermark).

      I doubt you are Jennifer. I also think you understand what is going on here quite well but you have gotten on a defensive footing and it is hard now to back away when you feel you are correct and everyone else is misunderstanding.

      This does NOT, however, help. It is distracting and frankly a bit insulting to keep up this ‘whatever, not a big deal, waste your money if you want’ attitude.

      Do what you can to help, and try to clear up the misunderstandings without being so damn convinced you have all the answers.

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Again, do NOT flag comments that provide proof of lies and theft! They will NOT get deleted!

    • Lindsay11

      LOL! “I’m gonna flag a comment that is just a link (that is listed on the top) of a post about me where all the mods know exactly what is going on! That will help!”

    • You can’t fix stupid

      Hey don’t bloody well flag my comments! You know it is the truth! Bliksem (Afrikaans for dumbass)

      • Justin Case

        that’s a fun word. I have been hearing it in my head for over a year. A SA guy on another forum I follow used it when describing how to remove something with a sledgehammer ‘…and don’t be afraid to bliksem it!”

        • You can’t fix stupid

          That is the other meaning. You can say “Hey don’t be a bliksem (idiot) or I’ll bliksem (hit) you”

    • BullShite

      Odd about the timing of the flaggin’s too. Just saying.

      • You can’t fix stupid

        It was a link to her page that is still up – nothing more

  • You can’t fix stupid

    Something confusing is going on. Are there 2 “Locals” as I see so many posts by “Local” sorry but getting a bit confuzzled here 🙂

    • Lindsay11

      I was seeing that too, I think it’s Disqus being wonky again!

      • You can’t fix stupid

        Okay thought it was the vodka popcorn speaking

        • Marc W.

          I wonder if there are actually two people posting with that name. =/

          • Hilary

            There are. A mod pointed it out yesterday. This is NOT Morgan that was defending her.

  • Local

    I’ll post fresh as seeing all this from a phone is hard and I am missing comments and points and so forth.
    I am not Jennifer. I know of her. I have gave her checks before when I went in to pay bills at State Farm. I’ve never used her as a photographer but I know many people who have. Including Morgan.
    I never defended her and I encourage whoever to file a lawsuit. I just meant that I know her well enough to know where she resides. What she drives. Her assets. Go forward. I just don’t think you will get half way around a Cheerio if you are driving……IF u understand that. And I know all to well about garnishment, but if the defendant quits a job and REFUSES to work……the courts cannot make someone work. The jails are overcrowded but maybe they can send her out of state to the big house. I don’t know. And I was asked several questions as to why this. Why that. I have no lies to tell. I found this page on google. And she did delete all her photography pages that I was Aware of. The FB PRIVATE page and the photography one as well. Someone did post a link. I was unable to successfully connect though. I did find some if the things she did disturbing. Very to say the least. However I just thought this was a discussion board where people express their opinions. I didn’t realize I’d get nailed at t

    • U Really That Dumb?

      I’m still waiting on a response as to why you keep changing email addresses.

    • Local

      To the stake. And I’m the same person or at least I haven’t seen any comments that have not been mine. But to address the reason email address changes. I’m on an iPhone. I’m not registered. It always makes me click the “post as guest”. It never stored my info so I tried once to post and it wouldn’t allow me without email. My email is lengthy, so I just hit a few random keys and tried to proceed but it “wasn’t in email format” so I quickly assed @……and a .com and it allowed it. So every time I post, which is more than I’ve ever intended, I try and make it quick. I hit a few buttons and attach .com. That is why :0)

      • I can understand that… you must understand this is the usual M.O. that other outed photographers have employed.

        • Local

          What exactly does M.O. Stand for? And when I said “she” wrote a nice piece I was referring to Jodie. I think it was u that jumped all over me for replying to someone’s comment about Jodie :0)

          • Abbreviation for “modus operandi,” Latin for method of operation. The pattern of behavior which is typical of how a particular offender commits a specific type of crime. Example: An offender who always wears dark glasses in the commission of a bank robbery.”

          • Melinda Potter

            oops I think we posted at the same time

          • Yep lol

          • Justin Case

            Example: A fauxtographer who claims ‘inspiration’ and then blames the webdesigner.

          • Local

            Lol. I did know that terminology as far as latin but thought I should ask as maybe it was some type slang or abbreviations as all of you all who are posting seen to stick together and attack anyone who isn’t a photographer. Lol
            And I’m sure you all already know where she lives. Which obviously gives me away as well so with that being said. Yes we are known for our slang, hillbilly, redneck terminology. Our accent and so forth.

          • Melinda Potter

            “attack anyone who isn’t a photographer” You’ve been attacked?!

          • Local

            Lol. Not physically but yes. My phone is blowing up with comments that are ugly all because I stated my opinion on a discussion board. Ha. It’s ok. But I wasn’t defending her or bashing anyone. I did use the term “idiot” as
            I was told I didn’t find this on google. Ummm. Yes. I did. Hence the word idiot. I have no reason to lie. I know it’s wrong and so forth. I was just posting my opinion.

          • Melinda Potter

            You weren’t attacked (my notifications are going crazy too. It happens when you participate on a discussion board and a discussion takes place with you). You were told you were wrong. You say you are very familiar with copyright law, when it’s obvious that you are not. Let’s not forget you are talking with people who are very versed on the subject. We are going to point out that you are wrong, when you are wrong. You have stated your opinion on how you think suing for infringement is frivolous and pointless, and about how no harm was done by infringing fellow artists on a discussion board/blog that discusses this subject quite passionately. Remember that photographers, unlike your “acquaintance” live, breath, and eat photography and for some/most photography is their livelihood, not just a made up fantasy for shits and giggles, and some extra under the counter pocket change. What she has done is the lowest of low things that a photographer could ever do. It is illegal, she can get sued successfully, it happens all the time. Obviously you don’t think or feel the same way we do, but try and remember this is a blog dedicated to this, and it’s readers and followers and participators are very interested, even if you find it silly and laughable that this page or copyright lawyers even exist. You have come and poked a stick at us and said “HA HA HA HA Good luck with this you silly people. It’s pointless”. and when you are told you are wrong, you continue to poke your stick. YOU are the one getting attacked? or are you the one who made uniformed statements that are wrong, got corrected repeatedly and continues to instigate further discussion on a subject you are lacking complete knowledge about?

          • Local

            I do know the laws. TRUST ME. And again. You can sue for whatever reasons you want. Jodie does have a case. Jodie can win her case. Fees will be outrageous. The retainer fee(could be bono) but to try the case. You have to think about the location. It happened here in TN. So you’re talking time. Travel. Weather. Moved court dates. Postponements Etc. In the end. Can she win. Of course! Could she be awarded upwards of thousands of dollars. Of course. Could she get it? Not likely. I explained earlier about garnishment and jail time etc. The whole “blood from a turnip” type thing. If People magazine had used her pic. Hell yes. Lawyer up. They will settle out of court. But some redneck girl trying to make ends meet as it is?? Ummm ok. She will be humiliated. I’m sure she already is. YES IT WAS WRONG. But I’m sure she has no type of insurance nor does she have the means to pay up. Nor will she in this lifetime. And sure she works. Do you know how many people stop working to avoid garnished wages?? My GOD. Lots of deadbeats. So that was my point. In a small, uneducated, probably misspelled, redneck way.

          • Marc W.

            “She will be humiliated. I’m sure she already is.” No she hasn’t. Her friends don’t believe she did anything wrong. That’s not being humiliated.

          • Melinda Potter

            yes, we get it. “blood from a turnip” It’s been said by many of us before. Someone pretending to have a business isn’t likely to have the funds to pay restitution. DUH! Yep, we all know it can be a pain in the butt to follow through, (but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen). Why do you think this blog exists? You’re kicking a dead horse here, and if you agree with our “cause” then why argue a moot point, that could potentially hurt or prolong any legal recourse the original photographers might take, by essentially saying to the offender “don’t pay. They can’t make you pay what you don’t have”? why insult the people who are trying to inform you? Why continue the conversation? If you don’t agree, and think it’s silly, then why post here to begin with?

          • BullShite

            She has a house. That can be taken. She has a job and there is taxes, these can be garnished (and I believe refunds taken entirely) She must have a car, because she lives to rurally. She appears to be married. The spouse’s earnings and assets can also be involved. So there is plenty to take.

            Unless she, and spouse and possibly kids don’t mind being completely homeless, they will both keep their jobs, both have their wages and tax returns garnished, and that is just the way it will be.

            Considering she ALREADY HAS A RECORD, an all of the info is here, it would be a short case. If she is as “poor” as you claim, she would NOT be able to afford to stall the case. Sorry.

            But you already have knowledge of lawyers and courts, and criminal prosecution. Who am I to lecture?

            Heck, if any photographer who has been stolen from needed the money to sue or travel to sue… I would TOTALLY give to any donation fund that said photographer put up, and I KNOW I am not alone in this.

            The worst part? If she had just taken it all down, said she was sorry, and really meant it….. oh but we are SOO past that now.

          • Melinda Potter

            It’s a keen to going to an autism board and typing “I think a lot of misbehaving children with lack of good parental discipline are getting misdiagnosed with autism, when clearly they are just brats trying to manipulate, to get what they want”, and expecting a friendly conversation to take place, and for everyone to agree with what you said. Maybe look for a discussion about how photographers are too sensitive about their copyright. I’m sure you will find one, and people would enjoy talking with you and discussing the frivolous and pointless lawsuits that take place, or never take place because artists are all bark and no bite.

          • Local

            I understand the passion. The dedication and hardwork that’s put into this as a profession. But in my line of work I’m afraid I foresee the outcome. But don’t let my opinions cause you to lose sleep or defer from a suit.
            When it all said and done and she gets $$ I will apologize. Maybe wherever you all are from have bigger, better attorneys that can indeed get blood from a turnip. Maybe our little crooked town is about to have a rude awakening…….maybe someone will become super rich over this. If that happens. I’ll apologize for voicing my opinion and it being taken out of context to go as far as to say I’m taunting photographers. Maybe I should just go back to school. AGAIN.
            Don’t take this wrong. I understand your arguments. Frustration etc. I’m merely staying my opinion of how I feel this will unwind. And I’m not afraid to say I could be wrong!! :0)

          • Marc W.

            As I’ve said, I don’t think it’s all about making money from the lawsuit. For me, it would be the satisfaction of the thief getting sued and truly publicly shamed. Right now, if someone stole from me, I might be happy for the thief to pay 100% of my lawyer fees, pay me $50, then in part of the settlement that they have to post once a week/month that they stole some photos from other photographers. This, to me, is justice.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Since you are SO much smarter than the rest of us explain this, why are you thinking that this will take place in your little town and not in federal court?

          • Melinda Potter

            You’ll apologize for being obnoxious all over a board you have no personal interest in (other than knowing the offender), but only if one of the photographers wins a lawsuit? Ok I give up trying to reason with you

          • Melinda Potter

            BTW I could give 2 %$#&!s if you “apologize”. I just want you to quit arguing your point.

          • BullShite

            I am not a photographer.
            I do this because I HATE scammers, liars, frauds, and thieves.

          • Melinda Potter

            Modus Operandi or Mode of operation, or method. It’s the usual

      • Justin Case

        well, your name ‘Local’ is registered now. (it’s green)

        • Local

          Unless this is green, someone registered it trying to be cute and prove a point. I’m NOT registered.

          • Justin Case

            Looks like a disqus error. It was green (registered) until I refreshed. Weird.

            I do think people have a point, however. You grammar and ability to put together sentences intelligently does seem kinda random.

          • Local

            Hahah. Well again I’m using a phone. I do shortcut. Talk slang. Hillbilly. Redneckish. It’s TN people. I get shit all of the time when I travel. Which is a lot. I’ll ask “hey y’all what’s over yonder”. “I’m fixing to go there”. “I done been there”. And it’s the same look. Expression and then the question. “Where are you from?” Lol But then when people start insulting me as they do not know me and are judging by this iPhone essay then I get offended. Take a deep breAth and take my time to try and explain and use proper grammar, spelling, and verbiage that I am capable of.
            I can be articulate and astounding when I want to be. I can dress, impress and mingle with the best. But I also take pride and never belittle others. I can also get down on levels and talk and be on a level with someone who is illiterate. In my field of work, it’s a must. I try to impress no one for one day we all go into the same hole in the ground regardless of our education, who we knew, how much we had in the bank. I am from TN and proud of it. I’m sure most of you have visited or desire to come down south. How many times have u ever heard of people retiring and moving up north. Nope. It’s usually down south. Good people down here :0). Don’t be so negative. It’s just a board. Expect her to have people defending her. Bashing her. Etc. You can get your point across in a mature and intellectual manner in which no one

          • Local

            Is offended and then all the bickering will cease. You can actually make someone feel very inferior by using the truth and some good language :0)

          • Lindsay11

            You called basically every one here an idiot but you never talk down or belittle people. Right.

          • I live in Tennessee. I’ve lived here all my life. I am a photographer. And I am literate. Education is a choice.

            She stole images. Pure and simple. She has to pay for what she stole. And the misrepresentation to her “clientele” is just shameful. What a fraud! I work my “butt” off and I build my clientele myself. She… did not.

      • Hilary

        I didn’t think you were defending her. I think the confusion came in that your guest account and Morgan popped up with the same name “Local”. Sorry if some people get carried away and didn’t realize the difference in the posts. But yes, the fauxtographers come on here as “friends” and “family” and sometimes it’s hard to tell when it’s a real person and not just one made up in their head.

    • Christopher C.

      “if the defendant quits a job and REFUSES to work……the courts cannot make someone work.”

      Uh… somehow I don’t think anyone anywhere would completely abandon all income just to spite someone out of a judgement. That’s ridiculous.

      • Locals

        Lol. Really? Come down here. Set in court ONE DAY. U will be amazed at how many dead beats, mainly child support issues, will give up a job. Some even a GREAT JOB just to avoid responsibility.

        • Marc W.

          I’ve heard this too. People are just … UGH.

        • BullShite

          Those are typically men, who refuse the caretaker role, and can easily shack up, unemployed, with some other woman, or their parents, so that it IS possible to ditch responsibility. Trust me, that happens here too all the time. It’s not relegated to “the south”. She has a home, kids I guess, a spouse…. but she…. and her spouse are going to give that up, and be homeless because their wages are garnished? NOT LIKELY.

          ESPECIALLY if the first thing (I am assuming it is a) he hears about it, is when the LAWSUIT is filed against her.

      • Hilary

        I have to give her this one. It really does happen. I see it all the time… SMH.

      • Yea I know someone that did this to spite his ex wife. All he did was side jobs that he did not have to declare.

        • U Really That Dumb?

          Since she is licensed to sell insurance, she is more likely to face criminal charges for fraud. Then she will be forced to work in jail and pay back that way. Not much, but jail isn’t much of a life AND she wouldn’t get to take pretty pictures!

        • Christopher C.

          That’s surprising, although I can definitely see it happening more as a result of domestic lawsuits (e.g. child support, alimony, etc.)

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Your comment that your phone is exploding is a lie unless one of the email addresses you used is actually yours. Otherwise you’d never get notification.
      I’m guessing you are a troll or you’re Jennifer. I’m going to have to go with Occam’s razor.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      One thing you failed to take in to consideration is jail time for failure to pay when she looses. Yup, She could spend the rest of her life in jail over contempt of court!

      Jennifer, have you thought about that little fact? Have you done everything in life that you’ve dreamt of? I doubt it. I’m sure you’re not sleeping at night knowing that any day you could get served, your boss finds out, your friends and family get wind of this. You can’t sleep because you’re afraid that someone, anyone, in your town finds out that you are a fraud and a thief that is unwilling to do what’s right and admit the truth, and apologize and pay back the people you stole from! So you know what you should do? Man Up and make things right before you end up loosing EVERYTHING that you thought you knew!

      Don’t forget to read this: http://sassy-designs.net/blog/?p=443

  • Carly

    Jens Hobby Photos, this is her new facebook page

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Nothing attached.

    • Lindsay11

      “Hobby” photos! lol

  • U Really That Dumb?
    • U Really That Dumb?

      Too bad it shan’t be ’round too long as it’s a business using a personal account.

      • Melinda Potter

        awww that’s too bad

    • BullShite

      Hobby??? Yeah well not if she is intending to CHARGE again!

    • chuck knuckles

      Rebranding already???
      She just cannot stand to miss out on being told how awesome she is – for even 24 hours!
      She hasn’t learned anything… unless the new page is to profess her guilt and remorse and apologize profusely. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • U Really That Dumb?

        It’s about playing victim and saying look I took the other one down because I was being wrongfully attacked so here is this one that’s private that I can continue to keep you in the dark with. Again, too bad it’s going away too AND she will be permanently banned from FB for using a personal page as a business page.

        • Bina

          Looks like she still has another backup personal page: Jennifer FreemanBuckner. Wonder if she’ll remember that one and start using it again.

    • Poof just like that the rebranding attempt disappears …. She is watching lol

      • U Really That Dumb?

        So sad! It was a brand new page that she obviously put in a ton of effort to create!

    • BullShite

      Why the heck would she delete it?
      Jenniger, just put up your OWN WORK and DO NOT CHARGE for it, because hobbyists do NOT charge (and you are NOT at a professional level yet), and there you go!

  • Melinda Potter

    I just want to say… it’s up to the laywer (if hired) and their client to decide wether a suit would be in their best interest. Not anyone else. This faux will be hard pressed to ever get away with what she’s been getting away with EVER again, thanks to Photostealers, and all the photographers out there that fight infringement. That’s good enough for me. Thank you PS

  • Amy Marie Parish

    This whole “No harm done” attitude that sort of floated around by one commenter…I still don’t understand. I keep thinking, that if this were literature, music, a painting that had been taken and re-circulated with a different person’s name on it to be passed off as that person’s own work….then maybe the understanding would be different. More outrage might be shown by those that are not in the arts community. I think that with photographic images, they get put out there for public consumption, and the public thinks they have the rights to misuse the art that doesn’t belong to them. If you asked Jennifer if she thought it was ok to steal a writer’s words and put her name to them, she would probably say “yes, that is plagiarism”. But a different set of ethics seems to work for the public’s idea of photography and what should be allowable. And there is absolutely harm. Does all photography on the internet end up misused somewhere? Probably. However, the blatant re-watermarking that Jennifer did, with the intent to pass the work off as her own, is detrimental on so many levels. The market is already over saturated with would-be photographers. So, if all the working pro photographers are already scraping for their piece of the job pie, and then on top of that, some steal other’s work in order to gain business? AND THEN…on top of that….couldn’t in a million years create the quality of the work that they stole…well, they have hurt the job market and the customer perception and experience. It is harmful. Absolutely.

    • captain-confuzzled

      wonderfully said!

  • Lindsay11

    This page is 24 hours old and over 500 comments. It’s definitely one of the fastest growing pages we have had I believe. All this could have been avoided if you had apologized and acted like a grown up Jennifer. Now we’re just going to post every new page you try to rebrand yourself under.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Check with some of the other featured on PS. They will tell you that each and everything they do post PS is up for review and scrutiny. They no longer have a truly ‘private’ life. Like elephants, Google never forgets and neither do the people herein.

    • L this brings back memories of the outed photographer that made a secert fan page for only her friends and we still found it.

    • captain-confuzzled

      ah, the rebranding roundup! such fun to watch to see if they change their ways and take the honorable approach going forward. Does she take the high road? Become an inspiration to us all and a warrior for IP rights? (*okay a little bit of sarcasm*) Or does she keep to her photo stealing ways? Only time and rebranding will tell.

  • U Really That Dumb?

    To those about to steal, those that have stolen, and those that say nothing ever gets done!

    In a different jurisdiction or a different judge, she would have received all of it. She may still on appeal.

    http://sassy-designs.net/blog/?p=443

    • BullShite

      This is great!

    • Just a Girl

      YAAAY! ANd this is even more recent then the person who used someone elses photos on her blog!

  • Kyle. W

    Ha-ha, I got a good chuckle. Long time lurker, first time poster. It’s nice to see justice served. And after seeing this psychopathic liar; I hope justice gets meted down to her as well. If Jodie is still lurking! Do it, serve that pile of crazy and show her, her “Hobby.” can cost her dearly.

  • Erin Neace

    I am commenting because I’m trying to report something, but your capcha won’t show up! So I can’t! haha It looks like a broken image icon.

    • Justin Case

      Erin, have you tried updating your Adobe Flash Player plug-in? It seemed to work for me.

      • oh, that must be it! Well, since I posted this I read the FAQ and found out I can’t report Craigslist ads anyway, so it does’t matter now!

        • Lindsay11

          Well, if they link to a website and it’s a photographer stealing photos that would count, right?

  • Just looked at all of the images larger. My question is how are they photoshopping the watermarks off of detailed parts of the images so well??? Like creases in clothing, etc. I could never do such a good job! Maybe if they are so good at Ps, they should get a career as a retoucher!

    • Lindsay11

      I wonder that too, sometimes. Some of them, like this one, she just obviously cropped it close to cut off the watermark. http://i2.wp.com/stopstealingphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Photography-by-Jennifer_0017.jpg

      Other ones she seems to not so… yeah I dunno. Maybe someone will have an answer for us! 🙂

    • They might have found an un-watermarked version.
      That and Photoshops content aware fill can do really amazing work sometimes especially in pattererned areas.

      I’ve used content aware fill to fill in dead grass and you can’t tell it was cloned and sampled it is so well done. Other times, Content-Aware gets a bit weird.

    • Photoshop does wonders my friend.

  • This is just sad. No other words for this woman.

  • Final_Word

    Hilarious.

  • Maggie Pereira Smith

    oh look…..she put vignettes around them. Sure. Now they’re “hers”. Pathetic.

  • Ispy

    She is back!

  • caty

    I’ve had numerous people tell me that she has started a new facebook page under jenndanny buckner. I cannot find it. I’m not sure if she has blocked me, or if she has already taken it back down, but evidently she’s doing Christmas pictures