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L&B Photography aka Lala and Bo Photography aka Foto Finish Photography

Web:  http://www.landbphotography.net/

Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/pages/L-B-Photography/169780556462227

Blog:  http://aphotogslife.blogspot.com/

I don’t know that I have ever seen a photographer have so many images of themselves on their business Facebook Page.   They’ve also had QUITE a lot of name changes.  I don’t know if this is because they’ve been caught before or not though.

Before anyone asks, no, she was not a second shooter for the photographer that most of these images are stolen from.

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Note the images on the cards

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Updates showing it wasn’t just “examples” of what they could do but they were passing these images off as their own original works.

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Update @ 6:17PM EST on 03/03/2014

Someone mentioned in the comments about them not booking but since I had their Facebook up I was able to capture some of their welcomes to new clients.

I also remembered they were in a bridal show yesterday at The Winner in Sharon, PA so I decided to check and see if their booth was shown and it was.  You can see some of the above images featured in their booth.

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Update 03/08/2014 @ 12:59PM

This story has been picked up by a local news station.

In the comments below, “Bo” aka Joseph Barovich has commented stating that Laura, aka “Lala” was a second photographer for Dana, which is untrue.   Nor were they seconds for Justin Hankins.  They also claim that none of Dana’s images were in the booth but there are.

  • C Sab

    I think she’s been caught multiple times. I don’t see why they think this will be any different.

  • Ana V

    Wow FB page down already.

  • Guest

    On their website, of of the photos even still has to original photographer’s watermark. They forgot to crop it. Lol

    • Joseph Philbert

      Lol a photo thief that forgets to remove a watermark :p

  • Joel

    I have seen a photographer that has had way more pictures of themselves on their FB page and on their website…Hint, her names starts with a “J” and ends with a “asmine Star”.

    • C Sab

      Yeah, she’s got a bit of a self-love issue. haha

  • MalibuBarbie

    At least we know she didn’t plagiarize her blog posts…good lord that is some terrible writing.

  • slainephoto

    It’s almost just a little bit more gut-wrenching when you see they take the time to crop and/or remove watermarks; all the while adding their own. It’s just.. disgusting.

    • Gut wrenching but it just adds that much more power to the photographers legal arsenal. In the US removal of the watermark is a violation of the DMCA’s provisions on copyright management information and adds, on top of the potential 150000$ another 2500$ to 25000$ in statutory damages.

      In all honesty, if someone were to steal my images, I would PRAY they had removed my watermark … if I wasn’t in Canada where there is, as far as I know, no such protection. 🙁

    • Joseph Barovich

      we have the originals from we were the second shooter for dana.

  • Rick New

    These people (thieves in general) can’t be getting that many clients. I mean, they can’t be good business people. I wouldn’t think anyways.

    • They are sly talkers I imagine.

      • C Sab

        It only works with people who are easily fooled. Sadly there are lots of people in their area it seems.

    • Photo Stealers

      Sadly, they seem to be booking up pretty quickly. It’s amazing what happens when you combine a predominantly fake portfolio with a really low price.

      They also participated in a bridal show yesterday.

      • Joseph Philbert

        OMG …

        • Photo Stealers

          Looks like stolen images were printed and used in the bridal show.

          • Joel

            Downright low, and sad.

          • Maybe bring this post to the attention of the Bridal Show to insure they are NEVER allowed a booth again?

          • Dana Goodson

            Hi, I’m the one of the photographers she stole from and 3 of my images are on those promo cards for the bridal show. I have been in contact with the bridal show and hope to get the word out to local brides that they have been scammed.

          • I also messaged the show directly.
            People, don’t spam the shows page, they aren’t to blame.

          • Me

            Good point. Don’t pummel the show, they are a third party who happens to be caught in the middle.

          • Photo Stealers

            Your images are also in the album from the bridal show and on at least one sign shown in the bottom right hand corner.

          • C Sab

            Good luck

      • C Sab

        It’s amazing how blind people will get when they see a low price.

    • Bhig Bhad Wolf

      It could also be a “fantasy world” sort of thing. You know, where they have mundane day jobs, a really expensive camera, and a life they live in their head. I wonder how much of her blog “journal” is b.s. other than the photos.

      • Whomever

        I tend to agree but it appears that this outfit changes names regularly. This persistence indicates that she’s (or they are) used to the getting caught / rebranding cycle. It may be that they regard this — and not photography — as their business. Wedding photography inexpensive enough that they’ll not be taken to small claims court. When her company starts to notice a drop off in clients, she may rebrand and start over again.

  • Bhig Bhad Wolf

    I don’t know who’s collie that is on her blog…. but that dog is in some POOR shape. It’s filthy and matted…. gross. The poor thing needs a bath and a real grooming. Pathetic.

  • Guest

    Website just went down. Just getting a Google Cache copy.

    • Joseph Philbert

      Hounds are loose

      • C Sab

        woof woof lol

  • Joseph Philbert

    Found some info on her.

    Registrant Name: Laura Phoutthavong

    Registrant Organization:

    Registrant Street: 2265 River Road

    Registrant City: Hermitage

    Registrant State/Province: PA

    Registrant Postal Code: 16148

    Registrant Country: US

    Registrant Phone: +1.7247183797

    Registrant Phone Ext.:

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    Registrant Email: @gmail.com

  • Facepalm

    Nice jeans.

  • cfw

    People such as this, like all thieves, believe there are shortcuts to success and to life in general.

    • Dj From Ohio

      It was a very nice Bridal Show, too bad of the negative press, but this is serious. This hurts the hard working photographers in this area. I just wish it also included djs who use illegal cdrs as well, saying they are legit. #Promoonly.

  • Michael Goolsby

    Seems to me like that photograph of the two of them in their bridal show exhibit is quite incriminating, seeing as how it shows both them AND their stolen pictures in their own booth.

    • Joseph Philbert

      It’s gone now they deleted it

      • Justin Case

        Lala &Bo Photography aka landbphotography.net is still up although now devoid of photos. I think they are still in the ‘ignore it and hope it all goes away’ stage. My guess is they’re going to keep it going and try to maintain a low profile and pray that the clients they’ve booked won’t find out about the fraud until it’s too late.
        Really hope someone takes legal action or some of the other local PA photographers start letting people know about this.

        • Michael Goolsby

          Ignoring it is one of the worst things to do. A shame these folks do not look at photostealer history, put two and two together, and realize that facing the music is the fastest and best way to get the song to end. Now, instead of simply being able to apologize, make amends and move on, this couple gets to look like a couple of the worst kind of crooks there are. And taking their phone number off their website after the news reporter called was a VERY bad idea.

        • Jenn

          This site and the news article are being shared throughout the Mercer County (the local county for Hermitage PA) and surrounding areas on Facebook. Thank You for this.

      • slainephoto

        I’m glad we have screencaps of it here, then, right?

        • Joseph Philbert

          Sell I did 🙂

  • Website still up with stolen photographs. L & B Photography Reviews, Lala & Bo Photography. Lala and Bo, L and B Photography reviews.

  • Me

    http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/rvfiy.png

    Let’s play Fauxtograpger’s bingo

    • slainephoto

      Just curious – what’s the ‘cliche’ for the ‘natural light photographer’?
      And then ‘female fauxtographer’ – why is that any different than a male fauxtographer?

      Otherwise, what happens when you have BINGO four times over?

      • Marc W.

        Probably something along the lines of “I’m a natural light photographer only because I want it to look natural, …” when they just never learned to use flash properly when it’s required.

        • Andy

          Or mixed lights or soft boxes, grids, dishes…

          • Michael Goolsby

            I recently had a bride book me for a wedding because her original photographer was a young girl who, after meeting them at a winery for their engagement portraits, told them that she was a “natural light” photographer and that it was too dark in the winery for her to get good pictures. Since the wedding venue itself was even darker, the bride thought it best to move on to someone else. Fortunately, I had shot in her venue before and was able to show her pictures from that wedding demonstrating competence in low-light environments. It was an easy booking!

    • C Sab

      lol Love it.

    • Bhig Bhad Wolf

      THIS IS THE BEST!

  • Dana

    A local news station featured the story for me. You can view the story here.

    http://wkbn.com/2014/03/06/local-photographer-accused-of-plagiarism/

    • Rick New

      That is cool as hell. The more this gets out the numbers of crooks should decrease.

      • Michael Goolsby

        Congratulations Dana and Photo Stealers!

    • Melinda Potter

      Way cool 🙂 good job Dana and Photostealers! It’s a victory

    • Just a Girl

      AWESOME!!!!

    • Joel

      Now thats what I am talking about! Congrats to Dana and Corey!

      Well L&B lets see how you deal with that bad press!

      • Joel

        **puts on his shades** YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

    • Greg Eigsti

      Proud moment, thank you all! Lurker who follows along, for some reason lalabo gets under my skin, way under my skin. Wonder if lalabo’s future plans include just sticking to selfies or a move to another state? Kinda seems like their local license to steal has been revoked.

      In case you did not read the article – it includes a gem right at the end about the wedding show “taking action” and distancing themselves from lalabo. I’d throw down on purchasing their soon to be defunct domain name and pointing it here 🙂

  • Greg Eigsti

    Proud moment, thank you all! Lurker who follows along, for some reason lalabo gets under my skin, way under my skin. Wonder if lalabo’s future plans include just sticking to selfies or a move to another state? Kinda seems like their local license to steal has been revoked.

    In case you did not read the article – it includes a gem right at the end about the wedding show “taking action” and distancing themselves from lalabo. I’d throw down on purchasing their soon to be defunct domain name and pointing it here 🙂

  • In the Bridal Show Booth pic, is that girl missing a finger or flashing a gang sign? Now, I’m scared I will be hit with a drive-by photo theft after commenting here.

    • Justin Case

      actually, she’s trying to cross her fingers, ‘hope we don’t get caught’

  • guest

    https://www.facebook.com/joseph.barovich I think this is Bo.
    https://www.facebook.com/FotoFinishArtistry and this is Lala.

    It’s curious that Bo just liked the newstation that just ran the story about this post?

  • Joseph Barovich

    i cant believe all of this. these are all lies based off a personal grudge and hatred. n
    absoutely none of the photos in the wedding booth are danas photos, and any of the photos that are said to be stollen are not. we have the origionals from when the wedding was shot with laura as the second shooter.

    • Melinda Potter

      If what you say is true, then why didn’t you talk to PS or the news station and supply them with your raws and any other proof that you didn’t steal photos. People that have proof provide it, not just say they have it and sit on it, not showing a soul.

    • guest

      Upload the files to a dropbox and share here, it’s easy to prove. Yay. I’m glad you want to join in and fix this.

    • Melinda Potter

      might want to remove that misused stock photo from your website before you start getting too crazy here http://www.landbphotography.net/

    • Greg Eigsti

      Your web site is down to nothing – why have you removed all of the photos that you own? Does not match the bravado shown here. Just sayin…

    • Guest

      Being the second shooter for Dana would explain how you have the same photos perhaps, but then explain how you and Justin Hankins have the same photos as well? Dana was from Florida so could be possible. This other guy is from Virginia. Was she the second shooter for this guy too and traveled states away to do so? Or is there another scenarios involved? I wonder if anyone has contacted the other guy yet since not all the photos were just Dana’s.

    • Photo Stealers

      Unfortunately for you before posting this I checked with both Dana and Justin to ensure that neither of you second shot for them. You haven’t. Also, most photographers don’t bring along seconds for engagement sessions.

    • Photo Stealers

      Regarding the bridal show booth: lower right hand corner, picture on an easel in front of the candle with three rectangles in a diagonal, top image is the picture shown above of a bride and her father walking through a garden type setting towards the ceremony, second image down appears to be the lantern centerpiece on the left with the S curve petal placement in the aisle on the right and the bottom picture appears to be the image of the wedding dress hanging on a gate outside. All Dana’s.

    • Joseph Philbert

      Man what a lying low life you are

  • Joseph Barovich

    we worked so hard just for a few evil people to post a lie and ruin it all.

    • guest

      Oh shit. prove it boy. Send those raw files to Corey stat. Clear your name and your girls name.

    • shellbell

      Its not very hard to show that you have the originals to any of these photos, are you implying that Dana stole these photos from you? and she just happens to have the un cropped version of everything you have? Ugh I am utterly DISGUSTED and downright angry to see this. I have of course reposted this article and I hope enough people have seen this to where you will never be able to pose as phony again

    • Bhig Bhad Wolf

      Oh god I LOVE it! So by a “few evil people” posting lies you mean YOURSELVES, right?
      I hope the REAL photographer you losers stole from sues you, and decides to update us on the lawsuit. The fact that the local news got a hold of this should bolster her case pretty easily, but I guess it’s also pretty damning that everything you STOLE has been saved for posterity here. Screen-caps are the best!

    • Michael Goolsby

      Oh for godsake…

      If you have the original raw files, don’t just TELL us about them. SHOW them to us. Prove PhotoStealers and all us evil people WRONG. It’s really, really, really, really, really, really SIMPLE.

      Otherwise, when you refuse to pony up all the proof, you don’t bother to tell your side of the story to the friggin TV news reporter, and you remove all of “your” photos from the website. along with your telephone number, you really just end up looking like a guilty asshole.

      Come to think of it…. it all of those photos were yours, WHY IN THE LIVING HELL DID YOU REMOVE THEM FROM YOUR WEBSITE?????

      I try to be even-tempered and patient, but this refusing to own your actions is just starting to chap my ass. And unless the two of you end up sharing some “proof” really soon, you both might just be a lot better off if you start saying the words: “Well, I guess we just got caught. That’s all.” And then take your lashes and move on. The only thing worse than doing something wrong is doing something wrong and not owning it.

      • Melinda Potter

        I agree with you Michael. This whole “We are innocent. I have proof” thing… Kind of seems almost too ridiculous in this case. Like maybe it isn’t even Joesph, and just somone coming here trying to get everyone riled up again. Not to say there is no way this actually happening/being said, (we’ve seen a lot of this kind of thing here) but after posting my reply, I thought nah, it’s beyond the “But those are my photos!” phase of the game. I think we might have been trolled, or we have encountered the most unintelligent, idiotic photo stealers yet to date.

    • Justin Case

      I call bullshit on this being the legitimate ‘Joseph Barovich’ … I mean, c’mon, after the proof above, there is NO ONE so stupid that he would keep this kinda denial going… (OK, well maybe Pam… or CJ… or… )

      • Ric New

        I agree with you Justin, these post can’t be from the real Joseph. Anyone with enough intelligence to operate a doorknob can plead innocence facing all the evidence laid out. This has to be some lonely sole posting here looking for attention.

        • Joel

          I actually believe this could possibly be him, to normal people, they would have given up and admitted defeat, but these aren’t normal people. (see sociopath).

          • C Sab

            Agreed. Wouldn’t be the first time the accused has continues to defend themselves even when the evidence of their sleaziness has been piled high above them.

    • Guest

      So lies and mean people is doing this? That means Dana and Justin are both in on this?
      Being the second shooter for Dana would explain how you have the same photos perhaps, but then explain how you and Justin Hankins have the same photos as well? Dana was from Florida so could be possible. This other guy is from Virginia. Was she the second shooter for this guy too and traveled states away to do so? Or is there another scenarios involved? I wonder if anyone has contacted the other guy yet since not all the photos were just Dana’s.

      • Photo Stealers

        Not possible, I checked before posting to make sure Laura aka Lala wasn’t a second shooter for either photographer. She wasn’t.

    • Joseph Philbert

      You full of shit… you are actually the evil one.

  • Canon Bey Reed

    I don’t know if Joseph Barovich is Joe of https://www.facebook.com/pages/Joes-Greenhouse-Farm-Market/182318411918496 but their pages profile pic of laura in the screenshots above showed up here on google search and it’s gone now, a lot of that pages pics have the l & b logo, and others have a “laura wells, foto couture” logo…. I’m guessing Lala is Laura Wells..

    • Greg Eigsti

      You could not be faulted for making that leap. Joe, Bo, Lala, Laura. I am reminded of past personal experiences with a sociopath and am sickened. Looks like Joe does have a green thumb though! Maybe the “photo business” is to help out during the winter months.

      One of Joe’s posts said “bleah bleah came to see US today” and has an attached pic of that person with an L&B watermark. Hrrrrmmmm.

    • Joel

      Definitely same people. I mean the watermarks are all over.

    • Greg Eigsti

      Found an alias “Supeavadvy Phoutthavong” that might be an earlier version Lalalalalala, though that is just a guess.

      Attached google search results for Joe’s greenhouse, which unfortunately led to a removed FB post, talks about Joe’s greenhouse, Joseph Barovich, Joseph and Laura, photos and their photo business.

      Gonna have to call this one. Joe’s greenhouse == Joseph Barovich == l&b fauxtography.

      • Joseph Philbert

        He shut down is profile …smh

  • Canon Bey Reed

    nvm domain is reg to Registrant Email: lbphotography724@gmail.comRegistry Admin ID:
    Admin Name: Laura Phoutthavong

    • Greg Eigsti

      Laura’s address in whois for http://www.landbphotography.net is the same as in the Joe’s Greenhouse FB about information. So I’d reckon that the two at least know each other. 😉

      landbphotography.net is now void of all content, shame it was just registered in January 😉

  • Carrie

    According to the screen shot from l&b of the one couple she took the picture in early 2013, the couples anniversary is Oct 26th 2013. How did she take pictures of their wedding before it happened while she was in Hermitage, PA? Also, She posted the baby pictures once on he fb page in 2012, then again on the webpage in 2013. Leading people to believe this was a recent baby picture, Dana took the picture in 09. She has been stealing pictures for years. She even changed the baby’s name from Jude to some C name. How does she explain that? I have the couples fb page should I ask them, or will she confess her lies and save herself more embarrassment.

    • Dana

      Thank you Carrie for doing your research. You are correct on those dates. Furthermore, I haven’t used a second shooter for any weddings I’ve shot since fall of 2012.

      • Dana

        Another issue with her comment on that wedding that is captioned “early 2013 Florida wedding”. . . that wedding was shot in October 2013 in Georgia, not Florida.

    • Greg Eigsti

      She will never apologize and I don’t believe she has attempted to even defend herself. Good chance she believes her own lies and is dropping the old messed up persona for a shiny new one – in my experience a sociopath of the lying variety will drop a persona when the lies/etc. make it too hard to manage and start over as a new persona with a clean slate. You don’t have to look at this one very hard to find the trail of old names/personas left in l&b’s wake. Lala, Laura, Bo, Joe – and how many last names?

      I know why this one bothers me the most – l&b are a freak show following their own set of distorted rules/morality and damaging others in the process. They will not stop, they will move on, rename and do it all over again – as they have done in the past

      • Joel

        My thoughts exactly. This one is quite strange, its almost like they both are sociopaths and are reinforcing each other. Just scary.

        • Greg Eigsti

          Yes, SCARY. My guess is that photo stealing is at the very low end of what is possible here. Dunno though, the evidence seems overwhelming, and this one, this one makes my skin crawl. The others make me mad, make me laugh, occasionally make me cheer and assure me that we are all broken. I guess it’s how you handle your own personal brokenness that matters. But this one, I call it the “Big One” (copyright) is creep factor 11.

  • Dana

    I just received an email from someone who claims to be her client getting married this summer. They saw the news and called her to find out if it was true. Of course she told him it was not true because she was my second shooter and everything was all cleared up now.

    Why does this not surprise me?

    • Greg Eigsti

      Interesting. So we know they have a habit of starting over and they have now received local coverage. I surmise that Joe is also tied to his land with the garden business, local customers, greenhouse, etc. and just up and moving to a new town would be problematic.

      Will their relationship handle the strain of Lala’s need to rebrand while stuck in Joe’s local pond (hometown?) that they have been pissing in?

    • Joel

      Amazing, do they think they can just lie and lie till they make it true? I think they lied so much now, they even believe their own crazy stories.

      • Greg Eigsti

        In my experience that is exactly (and more!) what can happen until it all becomes too cumbersome, then it’s rebranding time. Depending on current circumstances and available options (bridges yet to be burned) the rebranding can be simple/subtle or extreme. In this case one half appears to be tied to the land and the other half appears to be a more extreme rebrander – their pond is now soiled and they appear to be utterly paralyzed. Should be interesting, pass the popcorn 😉

        You know this is all arm chair quarterbacking – but come on Joe show the proof (or make amends) and this will stop.

      • Joseph Philbert

        They always lie

      • C Sab

        They all think that saying something multiple times magically makes them true.

  • Sean Patrick O’Hare

    I have known Joseph personally my whole life. He is one of the most kind hearted, hardworking, and caring individuals I have ever met. It breaks my heart to see this all flare up, but he is still young and has already accomplished so much and he will learn. As for the girl, I’ve heard completely opposite of her. heh…

    • Greg Eigsti

      Good, then have a heart to heart with Joseph. Here are some discussion points that you can use
      1. Dude, this sucks, you say you have proof that you did not lie and steal, why aren’t you bringing it forward?
      2. Dude, this sucks, your name on the photo business makes you a principal and just as responsible as Lalalalalala. Man up and grow a set and live up to your responsibilities.
      3. Dude, this sucks, but you say that the photos are all yours however your l&b web site has had every photo removed (even the ones obviously taken by yo. Dude, this makes you look soooooo guilty.
      4. Dude, this sucks, the stop stealing crowd has showed great restraint by leaving your Joe’s greenhouse FB page alone, I hope that lasts don’t you?
      5. Dude, this suck, it appears as if you and lalalalalalal have lied to friends, family and the world about your photography – as a life long friend I need pull you aside and force you to take a personal inventory (that is what friends do)

      A word of warning, potentially any of these and especially #5 has the potential to destroy and cause heartache and grinding of teeth. Been there, done that, not pretty.

      • Sean Patrick O’Hare

        What the hell does the greenhouse have to do with it? I was reading your other comments and you are trying to discredit a great local business (the greenhouse) just because of the photo stealing incident. I think I saw a comment earlier, but you might have deleted it saying that Joseph piggybacks off his parents on the farm? He has earned more money traveling doing honest work than any other 21 year old I know, including myself. I’m no stranger to the internet and I know anonymously casting judgement is what people do best on blog posts. I get it, it’s wrong to steal photos. But I’m not going to sit around and let people rip someone open because of something minuscule. I get it, you are all hardcore photographers and to most it’s a hobby at best from a financial standpoint. I also think a lot of the influence for these poor decisions are coming from the girl, and I only know this because I know these people from a personal standpoint.

        • Joseph Philbert

          I could care less how long you know him and how kind hearted he is …. He been caught with his hand in the cookie jar … If you continue to defend him then you are scum just he is.

          • Sean Patrick O’Hare

            Oh we got a know-it-all now. So I’m a scum cause I’m not posting the popular opinion, eh? I even stated that it was wrong for them to do that, but attacking his parents business is ridiculous.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Dude opinion and FACT are 2 different things. This has nothing to do with how kind he is or what is popular. It has to do with right and wrong.
            His own actions speak volumes don’t blame her for his wrong doing they both share the blame … What next are you going to say she controlling him to do bad thing .. As for his parents business if he using that as a front they will feel the blow.. He’ll his name is all over local news ..

          • Sean Patrick O’Hare

            Fact: “L&B Photography stole photographs from whoever and it’s wrong”. Opinion: “Sean O’Hare is a scum because he is defending aspects of this whole story that have nothing to do with the stolen photographs”. AKA Joe’s Greenhouse. I’ve made modern cartoon comics VIA Gimp/Paint other software and I’ve had them stolen and watermarks removed and some of them became very popular (not under my name) via Tumblr. Do you think I’m going to sit here and cry about it. No, because it’s a hobby. And yes, I do make ad revenue off Tumblr. The fact of the matter is that this will all blow over because photography is local based and you are all are photo hobbyists who will sit on stopstealingphotos.com and rip on peoples personal lives outside of them stealing photos like you know their life story.

          • Photo HOBBYISTS? Now who’s claiming opinion as fact?

            If you don’t want to protect you IP then that’s your fucking problem. Keep helping devalue creative works.

            Without this site, a lot of infringement would go unknown by copyright holders. What we do here is watch out for out fellow creatives.

            Sure, a couple of posters on here have gone seriously off track but you are just as guilty as they are with some of your comments on here.

            As far as the greenhouse bashing? I only partially agree with you on that. While I’ve personally stayed away from commenting on the greenhouse business both companies are owned by the same people who have proven to be morally, ethically and legally deficient in their dealings with the photo business … the two businesses are tied at the hip (same address, same owners, cross branding …) and so it is not unreasonable to doubt the legitimacy of that business as well.

            That question of legitimacy might be more opinion than fact but it is not un-reasonable.

          • Joseph Philbert

            I agree!

          • Joseph Philbert

            Dumb ass I am a fulltime photographer and quite a lot of us are … We do this for a living

          • Joseph Philbert

            I don’t give 2 shits about their life story they are scum. I know photographers who were homeless once that never stole images to get ahead.
            They were cross promoting their greenhouse business …. Even if it’s clean is will be perceived tainted and it is.
            So yes I will Rip into them because it’s deserved when they ready to move on they will apologize to the community..

          • Michael Goolsby

            Sean,

            You are trying to mitigate your friend’s behavior. Don’t. It’s not a solution. What IS a solution is your friend addressing the matter in a better way other than simply calling his accusers “evil” and saying that he has proof without actually showing any. Lot’s of people have been in his shoes. The only one who moved on were those who made the situation right by admitting their behavior, apologizing to the appropriate people, and making amends. Please encourage him to do the right thing rather than arguing with those who caught him doing something wrong. You will accomplish nothing on this end, but you may just be able to help him on that one.

            Best regards

          • Karnak the Great

            | You are trying to mitigate
            That counts as bargaining in Fauxtographer’s Bingo

          • Cinobite

            Unlike your cartoons that you don’t care about, for some of us this isn’t a hobby, it’s a livelihood. You don’t want the Greenhouse owners to lose business and lose their livelihood yet you’re not bothered about ours. What do you think DC Comics would do if people were ripping off their comics and selling them as their own? Just let the matter slide?

          • Joseph Philbert

            If the don’t want it blamed they need to distance their Buisness from his.. Obviously he did not get his parents good Buisness sense ..

          • Greg Eigsti

            Actually quite the opposite, I and several others respect your posts. I really hope that you can help Joe deal with this.

            However you must understand that to steal a photographer’s work, to cover their watermark with your own is akin to a burglar entering their home and stealing from them (maybe worse). Its a dirty bad feeling and it takes hours and hours and hours of work to try to get the offense stopped. IT SUCKS!

            That is why people are so pissed off.

          • Joseph Philbert

            He does not get it … he sees it as a minor crime. He got his work stolen and he could careless.

        • Joseph Philbert

          This is NOT A MINUSCULE ISSUE and I resent it… This is fraud and they both know it is.

          • Greg Eigsti

            >>because of something minuscule
            Yeah, gonna have to chime in again and call BS on that one. Consider that Dana (and who know how many others lala and bo have ripped) probably carts around $10-20K worth of gear that she has had to purchase with her hard work. She has to groom and care for her client list and calendar. She has to do the taxes and accounting to keep her business viable. She has to spend countless hours in front of the computer to provide top notch material (and it is). She has also probably spent many years perfecting her craft and growing her business – starting at the bottom.

            So is it really “miniscule” for knob and bob to take the fruits of Dana’s work and investment and present it as their own? Not only ripping off Dana but I’d put money that their results don’t come near Dana’s. What about the bride and her special day and the shit photos?

            Its time to man up. That’s all.

        • Justin Case

          Sean, I tend to agree that one business may not have anything to do
          with the other. And I respect your effort as a friend to come and help
          defend someone you care about.

          However, your friendship
          should not blind you to what this issue is really about: your friend
          fucked up, did something even you admit was wrong, but worse, he did
          NOTHING to try to fix the situation, and instead seems to have done
          everything he could to hide and deny his reprehensible behavior.

          Stealing
          and/or misrepresenting yourself to make money off other people’s work
          is FRAUD, plain and simple. Criminal behavior for business purposes
          speaks to a person’s character, so ANY business that they are involved
          with will now be seen in a poor light. I don’t think it’s appropriate
          that people spam the greenhouse site, but I think it is completely
          acceptable that people in your area who might be having any kind of
          business dealings with these people know what kind of people they are
          dealing with.

          You have implied several times that this
          is not Joe’s fault, but the ‘girl’s’. This is ridiculous. The business
          is not called ‘Lala and Unwilling Accomplice’ Photography, now is it?
          And take a clear look at the last photo posted above: I believe that is
          your friend in the photo representing THEIR business at a professional
          trade show. Kind of hard to distance yourself from that kind of proof, I
          would think.

          Don’t defend the indefensible. Cool that
          you want to help out a friend, I respect that. But you will do a lot
          better by trying to help him understand what he has done and make
          restitution than by coming here and just making yourself look foolish
          and uninformed.

          • Joseph Philbert

            You would think a so called honest business would just come clean … Goes to show you that his good friend Joseph is pawn scum..

        • Joseph Philbert

          Association is a son of a bitch…

        • Greg Eigsti

          So far the greenhouse and Joe’s other business have not much to do with anything other than it is a data point. I have not posted there rather put a couple of pieces together and confirmed the link here. I have done nothing other than attempt to uncover the identity of two photo stealers. Don’t know what others may have done to the greenhouse FB page but I left it alone. Why? Because my inner voice told me it was not cool.

          “just because of the photo stealing incident”
          I think you fail to understand the gravity of the situation. Should those who were stolen from decide to pursue this via lawyers, etc., Joe would be seriously screwed. We really all think it is better that he make amends instead. Don’t you?

          >>Piggybacks
          Actually “sucks off the teat of”, however I also said that does not matter or its cool or whatever. My point was that Joe is tied to his locale and that locale, or pond, is now soiled from being pissed in (local news coverage, etc.). I feel for Joe, especially if it is the girl…

          Right, so the take home points are 1) Joe stole, 2) Joe got caught, 3) Joe “has proof” but does not provide it, 4) Joe is involved with a bad girl, 5) and a group of professional and amateur photographers are righteously pissed off at Joe. 6) All of the content has disappeared from Joe’s photo business web site.

    • Hardworking? I guess you are right, stealing pictures from other people, removing their watermark, slapping together a template site … that’s a lot of work.

      *rolls eyes*

      • Greg Eigsti

        Pissed maybe. Pissed at all of the money spent starting up L&B only to throw it all away months later. Karmas a bitch.

    • Michael Goolsby

      Sean,

      Respectfully, Joseph should address this matter himself. He has called his accusers “evil” and claimed that he has proof that the images in question are legitimate. There is absolutely no reason, then, why he should not simply produce that proof and put this matter to rest.

      The problem is, however, that he is likely lying and that there is NO PROOF.

      A shame. We have seen this pattern of behavior too many times. Once again, the photostealer acts like a child who is lying to their parents, and who sees the world only from the eyes of a child rather than the with the eyes of older, more mature, more experienced parents.

      If Joseph is who you say he is, and if his wife is as you claim also, then it is very possible that he is her victim, being dragged along on her ride. It is not unusual for photostealers to exhibit strong sociopathic behaviors, and this might represent a pretty good time for him to take a serious, objective look at his mate and figure out who — and what — she REALLY is, and maybe take some steps to wrest himself free of her.

      Whatever the case, however, this isn’t just going to “go away”. And simply calling others “evil” and shouting “proof” without actually showing anything, along with taking the pictures in question off the website and refusing to talk to the report and others who inquire, won’t do a thing other than make himself look more and more guilty.

  • Michael Goolsby

    “we have the origionals from when the wedding was shot with laura as the second shooter”

    Great. Let’s see them. Time to produce. Otherwise, you will forever be known as a liar as well as a thief. I will be happy to host the files if you do not have the means. Whatever the case, it’s time to back up what you claim.

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    • Joseph Philbert

      UTTERING A FORGED INSTRUMENT
      GRAND THEFT THIRD DEGREE ($300 – $5,000)
      DRIVING W/LICENSE CANC, SUSP, OR REVOKED

      Not surprised at all wonder if Joseph as a record also .

    • captain-confuzzled

      doesn’t look like that is her, 30 years old at the time in 2003, would be 41 now, seems too old for our girl.

      • Guest

        Why would she be too old at 41? It certainly looks like her.

        • diditallforthenookie

          That was a misprint or like the other, she used a forged name. She was born in 83.

          • captain-confuzzled

            yeah, my mistake in reading, they are showing “current age” i thought it meant at the time of booking, but it means current age now.

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        • Joseph Philbert

          Curious … how is she “white”?

        • diditallforthenookie

          We all fucked up at 18 – 23 but she didn’t learn her lesson. Fuck my duck. Sadly the way she’s dodging this, I don’t think this will get through to her either. If JoBo is a nice guy as his friends have came on and vouched, they need to get him far away from this girl.

    • Greg Eigsti

      Bwahaha, you owe me a new keyboard and all of that 🙂

      I’ll bet with all the new fangled intarwebbs and stuff the local constabulary knows exactly who Suphavady Phoutthavong is. Laura Wells? Laura Phoutthavong? Lala???

  • ordinary person

    i am so saddened by this incident. so many first and last names are being printed here other than the photographers involved without regard to the fact that the names printed are just regular people in the community. even his grandfather’s obituary announcement? really? the man and wife who operate the greenhouse/farm work from sun-up to sundown. but yet there must be a lot of hate crime towards farmers – “pond scum”, etc. as you people keep calling them. and I think libel is still a crime…so…is photo stealing the only crime here or should libel and hate crimes be added. (libel is defamation which occurs in a letter, email, website, newspaper article, radio or tv broadcast. libel requires no proof of damage to a person’s reputation. it is assumed damage because the defamation of character occurred in print, often read by many people.)

    • Joseph Philbert

      They are running a criminal mastermind ( slightly sarcastic ) from the same address some or related owners.
      There is no hate crime or libel but if you want to try to prove that go ahead. You will not be the first or last. I seen many who have been listed here say they have “big time entertainment lawyers” with names and sending letters.

      All this could have been avoided if instead of continuing to lie all they had to do was apologize. Only to find out that his fiance/wife has a criminal record for the same crap already.
      So they are all pond scum because they are defending the practice.

      • ordinaryperson

        I guess you missed my point. it’s sad that so many people are lumped into this. I assume you feel the activities of all you know should be linked to you, also. just saying…

        • Melinda Potter

          Huh? What names have been brought in other than aliases of the owners of L and B photography? Well… Besides the photographers that were stole from. I just went through this whole post again, and don’t see what you are talking about

          • ordinary l.p

            The farmers are not the photographers. And first and last names are listed in the snapshots of all the searches done. Friends, family, and the potential clients she almost had.

          • Melinda Potter

            So you are talking about Joes Greenhouse page that was shared in the comments here? This was only because they promote/market and own L and B photography. and The screen caps from L and B photography page? In either case is was not the Photostealers blog, or commenters that brought names in, it was LandB photography, Layla and Bo photography, Foto finish photography, Laura and Joseph photography or whatever name they use that brought other names into the public eye. The negativity is directed towards the shoddy businesses owned by Laura and Joe, not their victims/potential and past customers. Just proves that their crime affects more than just the photographers they stole from, but lots of innocent people. The crime here wasn’t that their shoddy business was exposed. And the people at fault are NOT the ones that brought their unethical, illegal practices to light, nor the people discussing it. I think you may be misplacing blame.

          • ordinaryperson

            I am not blaming anyone. Just wanted to state my views. Ok?

          • Joseph Philbert

            Your views have been noted … again you are attempting to protect what could be an innocent business that is covering or condoning and shady one.

            If my son did this I would make a statement that I do not condone such practices …. in the absence of that they are guilty.

          • Melinda Potter

            Well, you should be blaming Laura (or whatever her name is) and Joesph, Joe, Bo… What they did hurt a lot of people, and by continuing to deny their fraudulent doings, it continues to hurt people.

          • ordinaryperson

            Well it seems I have fallen into the trap of getting too passionate about our community’s people. Should have not responded at all. I guess everyone is just guilty by association. That is if they all were aware of her lies -then pay the penalty. But if they were scammed -they are victims.

        • Joseph Philbert

          Joes Greenhouse is all mixed up in it … same owners same address … and they all keeping quiet is suspect to me.

          Normal “ORDINARY” people make statements to distance themselves from things like this.
          Its happened before on this site.
          “We do not condone this type of activity in our business blah blah blah”

          • ordinaryperson

            I do understand your confusion. Thank u for calling me normal.

        • captain-confuzzled

          my understanding is the Joes Greenhouse is owned by the parents, father also named Joe

          • Joseph Philbert

            That is my understanding also .. it seems his parents condone the same work ethic. Or covering it up.

          • Melinda Potter

            It’s a shame what a mess they have made just to make a few bucks deceiving people 🙁

    • Melinda Potter

      Let’s not forget the other innocent people who are also involved in this. Not just the people who were scammed by L and B photography, but The people in the photographs. How do you think it would feel to be plastered all over someone’s advertising/marketing without your knowledge or consent, given a different name, different location, or story behind your photographs? Pretty creepy I would think. Not only that but their relationship with their real photographer is solidified, and they know the emotions the original artists are feeling. I know I’d be shocked and sick to my stomach to have a photograph/photographs of myself out there with such negative vibes attached. I bet Laura and Joe gave absolutely no thought to the people in the photos they stole at all. Just thought I’d give you some more to think about.

      • C Sab

        It’s amazing how many of these disgraces have sociopathic and/or narcissistic tendencies. Not surprising though, especially when they try to defend themselves and justify what they did to our great amusement.

        • Michael Goolsby

          You’ve hit the nail right there. The photostealers who come clean right away are the ones who were genuinely clueless to begin with. But the VAST majority have no problem stealing exactly because of their sociopathic tendencies, which includes a lack of empathy/respect for others, a strong desire to be accepted or admired, pathological lying, a strong desire to “win” at any cost, lack of any fear of consequences (and, going along with that, no fear of committing the same offense again), refusal to admit wrong-doing, and blaming others. The sociopath and the photo stealer are perfect fits.

      • Cinobite

        *Was* solidified, now those clients are going to think, consciously or unconsciously, that their chosen (real) photographer is untrustworthy as they let the pictures out for these theives to use.

        • Melinda Potter

          True Cinobite. I know I wouldn’t feel comfortable signing a release form myself. Or using a photographer that didn’t use release forms. (can’t get over how many fauxtographers don’t use release forms. Some even use Facebook as proof AND delivery :/ It’s a mess out there)

    • Pete

      I think you’ll find most of those comments are statements of opinion and are not libellous.

      “Statements of Opinion and not fact are generally immune from Libel. That’s because an opinion can never be proven false. However, if your opinion implies your knowledge of an underlying set of facts which your opinion is based upon, Libel might exist. For instance, stating that a certain business in your opinion “is a fraud” implies that you know of some facts indicating the business has committed fraud. On the other hand, stating “I don’t like that business’ product” is merely expressing your individual tastes which is not Libel.”

      From www(dot)wave(dot)net/immigration/lawyer/libel.html

      Courts generally find internet comments to be opinions of fact, because seriously, what commenter has any credibility on the internet. If someone was dead set on finding libellous comments they’re going to have a hard time proving they are.

      • Michael Goolsby

        Every time I hear anyone talking about lawsuits on the internet, I just grown. As Pete say, libelous comments are hard to prove. Furthermore, is just never happens. Lawyers hardly take the cases and judges/juries almost never rule in their favor. I read statistics showing that libel and slander cases are among the least won types of cases brought. And people who threaten to raise one are almost always full of crap. Think about the idiot photostealers just in the past several months who threatened. Chris Jones was the most laughable, of course, claiming that he had already hired “a big time entertainment lawyer” who was “in the process of contacting” all of the people who offended him. The only thing “big time” about Chris Jones was big ass lie he splatted all over the place by saying that sort of crap. Fact is, not one single person was ever contacted by any attorney.

        Internet rhetoric can get pretty heated. But that’s all it is and all it ever will be: just rhetoric.

    • Greg Eigsti

      I posted a public greenhouse FB page screen capture intending to show a link between that FB account and L&B without thinking of third parties and for that I apologize. In no way have I intended to belittle or call any third parties “pond scum”. I found and attempted to delete the post but the moderator beat me to it (thanks!). I hope this goes a little way to show that there is no beef with third parties and that we all have room to grow. In fact I don’t hate farmers I hold them in high regard.

      Given other reports on his girl’s past maybe it is a good thing that he is getting some attention now rather than later. And if you can pass along the word this community is asking L&B to apologize and make amends for their wrongs. Or provide the claimed proof 😉

      • Joseph Philbert

        come on you know there is no proof 😛

        • Greg Eigsti

          No there is no proof, other than that of L&B’s guilt 😉

          What I am having a hard time swallowing is all (or one, who knows) people coming out in support of L&B. I promise you that if I sullied my folk’s business due to my bad behavior I’d be in for, well, something just shy of death. I’d have apologized immediately to spare my family/friends shame. But then I have yet to be featured here. Says from his glass house – hahaha.

          • Joseph Philbert

            SO would I. That is was normal “moral” people do …
            I not saying throw them under the bus but at least show others you have some kind o integrity .

      • ordinaryperson

        thank you – I know nothing of this girl’s past. in fact, she has only been in our community for maybe six months. but I just wanted to share how hard the farmers in this situation work. they have been in the farming/greenhouse/farmer’s market business for 50 years here…once again, thank you for your comment.

        • Justin Case

          Really, the damage has been done. And L&B Photography http://www.landbphotography.net/ is only making it worse by ignoring and denying it. Once this was out – first here and then on the local TV – I think that’s about as far as this can go unless the photographer they stole from pursues legal action. And sadly, anyone involved – rightly or wrongly, however close – will be tarred with the same brush.

          As has been pointed out again and again, anyone who really wants to put an end to this needs to ask Laura and Joe to do the right thing: make an unequivocal admission of what they did, ON THEIR WEBSITE for everyone to see, and make restitution with the photographer and her clients.

          That is what will stop this mess. It is in Joe and Laura’s hands, and anyone else caught up in this nonsense should hold them responsible.

        • Cinobite

          Bloody farmers! Over here in the UK farmers are cheap and have a shit load of money! Mind you, you wouldn’t catch me getting up that early. You should youtube search “Alan Partridge farmers” for the lulz

  • captain-confuzzled

    Maybe new Facebook pages will help https://www.facebook.com/laura.sb.503 https://www.facebook.com/joseph.barovich.1 (don’t have full confirmation on this, but looks like it)

    • Curb Man Curb

      definitely appears to be..

    • Lauren

      OMG, the matching Bonnie and Clyde cover photos just takes the cake!!! I am seriously rolling! LOLOLOL!!!!

  • Curb Man Curb

    Jo!!! We know you are reading this shit. The girl has 5 sets of mugshots, Google “Suphavady Phoutthavong mugshot” – Serious lifelong criminal. Kick her to the curb.

    • Joseph Philbert

      Joe wont say any thing here or on their fanpage.

      • C Sab

        He’s a coward just like everyone else exposed on this site.

  • Just a Girl

    Ahhhh VERY insightful words from our Moderator that I am gonna drag over here from the Truview page.

    “Often when a person is caught stealing images it turns out they were shady in other aspects of their life.”

    Yeah… someone just does NOT wake up one day and say I’m gonna steal. This a moral fiber flaw that runs deep.

    With this one… my skin crawls… On one hand I kinda feel sorry for the guy cause he just may be so buried in believing her that its all he can see. On the otherhand… Karma is gone go ape shit on both of them… him for his stupidity and her for …well… just take your pick. Joe, your daddy needs to take you behind the barn and paddle your ass!

    I take issue with the slam at “Hobbyists” I’m barely that. I take photos of stuff I like. Some are good and some are bad. VERY bad! Ive gone a few days with little sleep waiting to get a certain photo that at the time was elusive. BUT I put alot of time into what I do get. Its rarely random and its always time sucking. For me, it goes beyond sitting down and flipping thru some baseball cards or putting together a model car. THAT, to me is a hobbyist.

  • Dr. Catfish

    I have a theory… let’s see how close I can get. Joe. Bo, whatever his name is, is a sweet, average, somewhat sheltered smalltown guy living in Western PA bored out of his mind… and perhaps a little lonely. His folks work hard and so does he. He spends evenings trolling the interwebs, playing a few video games, watching videos on the youtube, and searching for pics of hotties and or chicks to talk to/exchange flirty messages/pics whatevs.
    Through the miricle of the interwebs, he meets lalalalala… an also “lonelyheart” languishing somewhere in Florida. They begin a romance of the ages…he shows off all the awesomeness that is his life in tiny town…look, my family has a successful business, we’ve been in the same area forever…isn’t it pretty? I like motorcycles, aren’t these roads nice? To which she sends him “beautiful” selfies and says I’m a “photographer” in Florida, isn’t that kewl?!! He says “hells yes, can you send me more photos? She does (probably stolen) and he says ZOMG, you are perfect! I Lurve you! (and I’d like to get laid) Let’s meet! He tells friends “She’s EXACTLY what I’m looking for, she likes all the same stuff as me! She’s soooo pretty! Look, she takes AMAZING PICS…she’s not from my tiny ass town in Western PA!” We are going to meet…all I have to do is pay for her plane ticket and/or fly down to Florida and put us up at a fancy hotel b/c she either lies with her family who doesn’t understand their lurve, or she has roomates and wants everything to be perfect!!!
    So they meet, he gets laid (woot!) and now she has him wrapped around her finger (probably the one she is hiding in that pic) They devise a plan for her to move up to Tiny Town PA…and she’s like Woot! A Fresh start with a guy who doesn’t think I’m skeezy! I can be a new person!!! Being that he is from smalltown America, people will talk if they don’t get married or engaged…soo guess what we’re going to Niagra Falls!!! Woot!!!
    Being that I am from the greater Buffalo area originally, let me editorialze a little…anybody else familiar with the area notice that despite this being a total bucketlist adventurez lolz! Woot! They only go to the American Side of the Falls. Beautiful yes, but the Canadian side is sooooo much prettier. Lemme guess… Lalalalala didn’t JoBo to know her real names…and/or her real age/and the fact that she’s been arrested multiple times?! Cuz that’s stuff that comes up when you travel internationally. So she totes forgot her passport and/or had an excuse for why they couldn’t get it in time. I’m guessing he has his, even if its the “Passport Lite” that only allows you to travel to Canada/Mexico.
    So they stay in America, her secret stays safe, and he pops the question as the Nikkolai Tesla statue stares on and rolls his eys at thier terrible camera work. They plot their world wide dominaton, now that they are bound together by love and a payment book for that gaudy ass ring.
    He says, hey babe, since I’m totally awesomesauce at the interwebs, why don’t we make a website?! She says totally babe! I can so grab some awesome photos from *the vault* and we will make tons of money and live happily ever after in your small town where most people probably don’t have much more than a high school education, (not a dig or an insult, just an observation) they all know each other, so there isn’t a whole lot of need for advanced critical thought. She’s nice enough, but an outsider—luckily she has a superlocal to back her up.
    …And then Photostealers + the WINNING bridal show.
    JoBo is unsure what to do, LAlalala tries to explain everything…and she probably does a semi decent job…and then makes sure he gets laid again (woot) his loyalty is re-confirmed…he will defend her against the “evil doers” and jealous haterz.
    Except you know, Facts. And the Pulitzer level reporting of the local media.
    …So…. How close am I?
    JoBo…I’m giving you a tremendous benefit of the doubt. I am guessing you were duped. It happens. Your girl is a Sociopath, with a record. She’s after your family business. Get out while you can. You’re probably a nice, but not terribly sophisticated bloke. She’s playing you! The next step will be a Pregnancy scare to get you to stay with her. Run!!!

    • Greg Eigsti

      >>She’s after your family business
      Been developing a similar story in my head 😉 Wonder if Joe has some sort of inheritance promised?

    • Justin Case

      EXACTLY, that must be it! I pictured it just like that! Well, except in my imagination there were more more dragons and flying cars, but it all makes perfect sense. (Or at least as much sense as getting caught red handed and then crying “I got PROOF we’re innocent!”)

      • Dr. Catfish

        Yes! Dragons and Flying Cars would make this a much better story.
        Perhaps we need to add duped/defensive s/o to the Bingo board…
        Hopefully this is a blessing in disguise for him, and he is able to get out before paperwork is involved. Don’t add her to your bank accounts! Or as an authorized user on your Credit Cards JoBo!

        Who knows, maybe he is as messed up as her…but I’m guessing she was the one driving the bus on this one. He has friends coming on here defending him…where are her “supporters?”

      • Joseph Philbert

        I saw a lot of filthy domination sex in my imagination … Then again I am a perv lol

    • Guest

      Yes, that’s pretty much the same scenario that I assumed after seeing these two…

    • Joseph Philbert

      Dam dude this story is awesome sauce … I read it twice.. Might dam near accurate also!

    • Just a Girl

      AHAHAHA! Thats some funny stuff right there!

  • captain-confuzzled

    following the FB trail… looks like one of the brides shown above that booked with them is very closely connected to Joe – as in mom’s sister (his aunt?) is Maid of Honor. …..just saying

    • Greg Eigsti

      I have been wondering if the Oak Tree Country Club might be able to contact the bride for the 3/24 wedding to let her know about her photographer. Might just be a public service to warn both the bride and the venue.

      But in retrospect it is an admittedly small town and and I am sure it would take an awfully dark hole not to have heard about this.

      • captain-confuzzled

        That sounds like a great idea. Even if they already know, it wouldn’t hurt to reinforce it.

        • Greg Eigsti

          So be it, make it so, etc. The Oak Tree Country Club has a right to know about Lelu’s past. As an operator of a venue would you want that piece of work running around unfettered/unwatched? Did not think so.

        • Greg Eigsti

          As a golfer myself, and one who understands that golf is merely a fun way to demonstrate integrity, I am appalled that someone with Lulu’s issues would be let anywhere near a CC or course. If she does end up doing the wedding there I hope that they watch her like a hawk.

  • anonymous

    I am very close to the family, and I am obviously not in a dark hole. As for my wedding, Fb, and any other PERSONAL information I’d prefer you stay on topic. As for the photography business and photographer I have known one my entire life , the other 6 months maybe. My wedding and life are not up for discussion regarding fraud, plagiarism, nor photography.

    • Greg Eigsti

      The brides are not involved, other than having made a really poor choice in their wedding photographer. Hurry up and find another photographer – everything Lelu showed you as examples of her own work were stolen from a real professional photographer. What you receive from l&b will be nowhere close to what is promised, they don’t have those skills. Now if you wanted to knock off a convenience store you might be better off with leloo.

  • a bride

    I agree that the brides shouldn’t be involved, and no we don’t live in dark holes. PERSONAL information regarding brides and family shouldn’t be discussed. I’m not commenting regarding them, but on behalf of myself, leave my very special wedding out of this discussion. I am not a photograph, nor am I the company under scrutiny. But I am saddened to see that we’ve been brought up. Please be sensitive to the matter that I am getting married. This is a joyous event not to be belittled by the mistakes of others.

    • Just a Girl

      Mistake??? Since when is DELIBERATE stealing a mistake? Maybe you do live in a dark hole if you think all she did was make a mistake. Jeeez!
      Why would anyone want her to shoot such a special day? Its mind boggling to even think of the screws ups a FAKE photographer could create. My guess is the photos that come out of such a thing will be mere snapshots.

      • Joseph Philbert

        Face palm it always tickles me when others see stealing images as a trivial matter

        • guest

          Face palm it always tickles me when people are so blinded by anger they can’t see others opinions and respect that. and they can’t leave someone who requested so alone

          • Cinobite

            face palm, there is no place for opinions when it comes to breaking the law

          • Anonymous

            Your right. So then why do you get to cast an opinion on this topic? or any one of us. Maybe we should leave it to the authorities instead of trying to be vigilantes over some photos on the interenet.

          • Joseph Philbert

            What “authorities” like you that condone stealing of images?

            If we leave it up to you then nothing will ever be done … the only way people like this stop is when we make what they do public. Embarrassment is the only deterrent.
            You can continue protecting your “Friend”

          • Anonymous

            Thats pretty funny. Do you just make this stuff up as you go because you like to hear yourself speak? Our society has regressed in our reading depart as it so very blantly shows. You along with everyone else is so quick to jump on people that you don’t even really read the posts. You remind me of those bullies from shcool that you read about who need to feel better about themselves through degrading other people. I have no friends here….nor I have any enemies….however I obviously do have a great amount of ignorance.

      • guest

        It amazes me how quick everyone on here is to jump on someone. Yes…these photographers did make a mistake…… The severity and how blanton it was preformed is based on what they did. This bride is obviously just upset that her special moment is being scrutinized by people on here because some photographers decided to break the law. She is obviously not these photographers and I’d agree that the wedding should be left alone. Everyone simply needs to get off their high horses and stop taking everything said as a personal attack. There obviously was no insult towards anyone from her message, nor did she state she felt what they did was trivial….or projected an opinion on their criminal activities. The two people that truly should feel attacked and offended is the photographers who they stole the pictures from…..Dana and Justin! I honestly feel everyone on here does society a great justice by giving their time and effort to unearth these people who are breaking the law….but when we turn into an angry mob we lose sight on what and who the wrong doers are. This bride never said she was going to continue to use these “photographers” services…she is the victim here and got tied to these criminals just like every other bride who got scammed to them did.

        • Guest

          Look at it this way. As a photographer your photos is your “baby” and you don’t want them stolen. As a bride her “baby” is her wedding and doesn’t want that special moment stolen from her. Just because she didn’t bash the photographers doesn’t mean she doesn’t feel the same as we do. Her efforts were to protect her “happy day” and ask everyone to leave her wedding out of the discussions. I think this is a very reasonable request and we should honor this for her. She is just as much of a victim as the photographers who photos were stolen. We need to all stick together and focus on stopping the criminals. We owe it to the community as well as anyone who got drug into this to minimize our wake on them and direct our damage on the thieves at hand.

        • Greg Eigsti

          No one is attacking the bride, questioning her choice in photogs, yes. However she has the chance to save her wedding photography and that is ultimately in her court. Your assumption that Dana and Justin are the only parties allowed to seek justice is incorrect. What Leloo and Boob have done is a slap in the face to professional photographers and everybody else that considers integrity an important word. If it were not for the actions of those on this site Leloo and Boob would still be showing off other’s work as their own and selling promises that they cannot deliver upon. What they have done is not a mistake it is a heinous and grievous crime against the entire photographic community and the brides that they will disservice.

          There is no angry mob here.

        • Cinobite

          Out of interest, if someone walked into a shop and purposely stole a TV…. do you think that would be “just a mistake”?

          • Guest

            First of all I never said it was “just” a mistake. We can all twist everything around to try to make it seem like you have a point and leg to stand on. Yes….its a mistake. All criminal activities are a mistake. Yes most are done on purpose, but it is still a mistake in the end. The term “mistake” isn’t alleviating them of guilt or saying they did it by accident.

      • Greg Eigsti

        So after all of the discussion about what shots you, the bride, wanted Bobo and I decided to change things up a bit. Check this out we photographed your wedding with a selfie theme (because that is all we know how to do) – how awesome is that? And look at this one – here is one of me putting silverware into my purse!

        No, no, no, no, no. There is a rat here and as captain said to us our photographs are our babies – you steal one photog’s babies and you have stolen all photogs babies. WE ARE CONCERNED FOR THE BRIDES! They are not going to get what is promised and will be sad. Guaranteed.

        One thing I have not seen any “local” post about is accountability and holding Mutt* and Jeff accountable for their wrongs. Fine, maybe you don’t feel that they need to be held accountable or learn from their “mistake” but WE DO!

        *Mutt – that worked

        • Cinobite

          FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THINK OF THE BABIES!!!

      • a bride

        As I previously stated I was not commenting about them. That includes on the severity of their actions.

    • Joseph Philbert

      We’ll I hope your images turn out nice … Good luck .

    • captain-confuzzled

      Wow oh wow oh wow. Our only thought in hoping to reach out to any customers of the fake photographers was to protect you! The thought that your beautiful wedding day might end up with terrible photos, truly hurts the hearts and minds of legitimate professional photographers.

      Certainly if you choose to ignore the information that has been presented, and are willing to risk not having nice photos of your most important day, then that is up to you. There is no attempt to put you under any scrutiny, or discuss you. No names were mentioned by me, THEY named and listed personal info about their brides. I only followed the information to try to make sure that you were aware of how risky using this photography team will be, since your special wedding photos cannot be re-created if they are messed up by the photographers. And since the work they show was not theirs, but was stolen, you have no idea what you may end up with. It is not easy to take good wedding photos, but perhaps you will need to find out the hard way. I am truly sorry if, in the end that is what hap[pens. The professionals do know what skill level is needed and want their brides to have those beautiful memories, and so are concerned for you simply as any legitimate professionals would be knowing that you may end up a victim of fraud

      Clearly, if you are posting here, you have the info about what they have done in the past, the seriousness of it, and the risk you are taking. So I wish you a wonderful wedding day with much joy and beautiful photos for your family memories.

      Should you doubt we have your best interests in mind, I suggest you may want to look at some of the other horror stories from customers of other photographers who have been outed on this site and see how unhappy they have been when they realize that the beautiful photos of their day do not arrive and can never be replaced. .

      • Guest

        Very well written, however I didn’t take it she was continuing to use these photographers or doubted our efforts. I think it was just a request to be left out of our wake.

  • Greg Eigsti

    Non-photogs, locals, etc. Please read this before commenting.

    Photographers see their work as an extension of themselves, a “baby” if you will. Most photographers, the good ones anyway, have worked and scraped to buy incredibly expensive equipment to best service YOU the client. They also do all of the accounting/taxes/other BS that it takes to run a business – it not all fun clicky clicky take a picky. They have also studied and learned for many years to perfect their craft. I am leaving many other mundane tasks out of course.

    So before you post understand that this community will rabidly protect their work and US law supports those protections. If you are going to brush Lolo and Boobies action off as a simple mistake, or not that big of a deal remember that your comment will not be received well. We the photogs have rights as well.

    There is something really “wrong” with his one – some digging by “our locals” has turned up some pretty damning past history and no doubt remains that l&b are at least liars and thieves.

    So do everyone a favor and ask for Lelu and stitch to make a public apology and amends. That is how this will stop.

    Maybe Hermitage needed this wake up call so they could internalize and decide just how to treat liars and thieves.

    • a bride

      please understand that living in a small community means every job, relationship, and social experience are intertwined. we have never degraded the effort you put into you work, and I’m definitely not sayin stealing isn’t infuriating. But I will not ask them to apologize. It isn’t my place as a ex customer to do so. I am not jeopardizing my family, my job, my families relationships wih each other and so forth. As we see the company at topic is well aware of your efforts, and of your wishes. I do know what it takes to run a business the hours, the dedication, and skills needed. I’m glad you reminded us this because when they commented about the Farm it had been had forgotten. You all fail to see that it isnt black and white, I can not simply walk up to them and request apologies. I respect this site and have been well informed, I respect the work everyone here does. I was asking to be left outs simple ok would have sufficed. Hermitage knows that the legal system will take care of fraudulent people.

      • Greg Eigsti

        Thanks. I did not mean to ever deride you or the folks in Hermitage, etc. I hope that you have a wonderful wedding too! Thanks for the primer on your locale – I imagine that L&B are getting a lot of local “coverage”.

        I don’t desire to see anyone hurt, what I desire is to see is some accountability. L&B have tucked their collective tail and are hiding and rebranding themselves – from outside of Hermitage it appears that this is no big deal and all they need to do is hide and it will all go away.

        Regarding the farm, tough situation but in my opinion things could have been handled differently. Maybe Joe could see the affect of his illegal actions and start making amends – if only to do the right thing by “the farm”? Maybe Joe’s dad could take him out behind the woodshed and “talk” some sense into him?

        As you correctly pointed out life is not black and white rather an intertwined jumble of goop. I certainly do not expect that you would say anything to anybody – however I would be happy to hear that somebody said something that resulted in some action.

  • Howard

    So I have a question. How many of your professional photographers refer to yourself as a “photog”? Seems like a silly reference, but wanted to see if it was the norm before I used the terminology. Thanks.

    • I consider myself neither “Professional nor Photographer” but if i did i would certainly never use the word photog. It just reminds me of a guy i once met that would constantly referred to himself as such. But he also thought that bc he shot with a Leica M that it somehow put him in a special class of “street photogs” lol, He was in a special kinda class all-right!

      • Greg Eigsti

        There, I fixed that from a *real* keyboard 😉 Funny Leica “photog” bit, but sadly I was being lazy and not starting a hip new special class 😉

        • Howard

          Ok, thank you. I assumed it was some new lingo, feel better it was just a typing shortcut or laziness or whatever.

          • Greg Eigsti

            Yeah, posting here from the iPad is kind of a hit and miss proposition so I tend to be a little terse (yeah!) and not care about spelling/grammar as much.

        • I prob shouldn’t let one person ruin a word for me, maybe i can come around one day and accept it more then just a away to keep a Tweet within the 140 character limit = )

      • El Gusto

        Oh, so you’ve met Eric?

    • Michael Goolsby

      I don’t refer to myself that way, but it’s not a derogatory term to me and I don’t care if others do. Neither is “doc” for a doctor. I guess I’m just laid back about that kind of stuff.

    • Greg Eigsti

      I am not a professional photographer nor do I play one on TV – though I have had images ripped off, watermarks removed/replaced, etc. The photog reference was just shorthand typed on an iPad (notoriously bad editing environment); nothing more nothing less.

    • Joseph Philbert

      Just short hand

    • Cinobite

      I hate the word “photog”. I’ve also given up using the term “professional photographer” as A: It has lost it’s value and B: When you run a photography business 90% of what you do isn’t taking photos 😛

      I just tell people that I work in Media

      • Greg Eigsti

        A very wise professional photographer once told me not to ruin my fun hobby by turning it into a business…

        • Justin Case

          a new way to say the old ‘don’t quit your day job, kid.’

          I even question the motives of most of those listed on here – I think a lot of them are just the ‘get rich quick without really trying too hard’ types who think the investment in a cheap camera gives them a new career. Or they like OTHER people’s photography enough to ‘go pro.’

          • Guest

            I agree, most people probably are just trying to find a way to make some money easily. Yes, some may have a “passion” for photography and a fancy camera, but “professional?” not sure I can aswer that. There is alot more to taking a good photo than slapping a photoshop filter over it and calling it a day. Maybe these people who want to become a professional should go to school or learn through an apprenticeship how to take a good photo with the camera, not the art program. Most people probably couldn’t achieve any good results if they had to use 35mm film instead of digital cameras. Most people think its just click and run for the special effects.
            And no one can hardly complain about the business aspect of being a photographer. Its no different than owning any other business. If its too hard to deal with, then maybe freelance would be a better choice to take their fancy camera to.

  • Howard

    So has there been a follow up with Dana or Justin yet? I seen one or two comments from Dana, but has Justin ever responded or made a statement? I’m also curious if Dana has mentioned if she was going to further her efforts on legal action on these two?

    • Howard

      Also has the new report that took the story at WKBN conintuing efforts as well or has he dropped the story?

      • Dana

        WKBN has expressed interest in following the story if more details emerge in the future.

        • Howard

          So WKBN is intereted in a story again….once there is a story? Basically what I get from this is that if you do not sue them then they got away with this. Sure they were outted….and maybe have lost some business. In a couple months from now they will have been basically forgotten. The posts on here have drindled and interest seems to be gone. Everyone did a great job investigating them and their acts, but now what?
          The truth of the matter is if a law suit is initiated it will cost too much money, time, and effort. to get anywhere. Sure… after five years of fighting in court they may lose and their business shut down. Win money from them? Propably not anywhere near as much as lawyer fees. They lose their business’ name and just turn aruond with a new name and if they were smart with all legit photos. Your point was made and lesson learned, but they will be back up and running in no time. So I ask again…now what?
          Assuming a law suit is not a feasible route….which I am sure most lawyers will tell you that its not worth it (especially now that all the photos have been removed from their webpage and they no longer are commiting illegal acts against you). What happends now? We all exhausted our efforts and resources. We throw a random post on here from time to time. We turn to the new “hot” story on here and this all fades away. After a few months of keeping it low key “L&B” changes their name. They start another photography business with a different name and get new customers. This time around they don’t post to their facebook pages or put their own phots on their business webpage so no one really knows who they are until they meet. Maybe they wise up and not put stolen photos on their webpage and as far as all of us could tell the new business is a new and legit one.
          Yes perhaps we can try to out them again if we find out their new site. Of course if their new business is legit (no stolen photos) and its registered with a new business license(business name) then they are not committing any crimes. Outing them would only show our opinion of their integrity from past business, but really mean absolutely nothing. So…..now what?
          Seems to be as though we caused a nice hickup in the road for them, but other than that nothing. The angry mob of people that tore into them will eventually fade and everything will go back to normal for them. Hopefully we corrected their ethics to avoid future incidents, but honestly we didn’t do anything and was just a waste of high blood preassure.
          Again….now what? Help me see a longer road for this fight that seems to be coming to an end.

          • captain-confuzzled

            I think the “longer road” or big picture is just that, as PS identifies more of these situations, it raises overall awareness and may prevent others from doing the same, and protect consumers from paying for fraudulent services, learning that they need to check the reputations of their vendors. Any single one case may not solve anything, but as a whole it will hopefully make a difference.

          • Howard

            Lets hope that you’re correct. Seems like there needs to be something more solid in place for these crimes…but lets just hope we end up helping the customers/victims and not drag them in the middle of the mess.

          • Greg Eigsti

            Keep the thread alive? Unfortunately, as you state, there is not much else that us law abiding citizens can do in this case. As captain says maybe all of this will help the next potential offender and/or bride victim.

          • Howard

            Perhaps….so here is another question. This L&B group gets shut down and honestly learns their lesson from this (or at least stops stealing photos), they open up a 100% legit photograpry business with new ethics….does everyone plan on bashing them for this as well?

          • captain-confuzzled

            nope, will wish them well in their endeavors, but will believe it when I see it.

          • Howard

            I agree. I hope that they put all this in their past and move on with a lawfully correct life. But like you might have implied it could just be a pipe dream.

          • Greg Eigsti

            When they honestly learn their lesson they will have apologized and have offered to make amends – that is all that is asked of them to make this stop.

          • Howard

            An apology or not I think if you just tail them for the rest of their lives is just as wrong as the crime they committed. The only illegal act they have done is through L&B photography. Now I’m not saying I agree with what they did or that they shouldn’t apologize. I do feel that no person on here other than Dana and Justin should recieve this apology. And of what I have heard through WKBN Dana recieved a phone call from them with an apology and admitted guilt. Yes I’m sure that this didn’t fix everything….but the so called apology everyone is waiting for has already been completed. Maybe the reporter at WKBN got their story wrong, but sounds like L&B already did what we asked.

          • Greg Eigsti

            Obviously nobody is going to tail them for the rest of their lives, well anyone associated with this site. But I disagree about “the only illegal act” – at least the “L” of L&B are serial offenders with a nice rap sheet to back them up. Futile, unfortunately yes.

            As far as I am aware there have been no apologies made, but I’ll go take a look at the video again (thanks!).

            >>And of what I have heard through WKBN Dana recieved a phone call from them

            Or have you talked directly with WKBN?

            Totally agree that the offended should receive apologies/amends, personally I believe that it would be a proper good will gesture to apologize to this community and photographers in general. Keep on dreamin 😉

  • Greg Eigsti

    https://www.facebook.com/laura.sb.503
    https://www.facebook.com/joseph.barovich.1

    Wonder how our buddies are doing? Lulu seems much more adept at locking down the privacy of a FB page than Jose. Definitely the same two knuckleheads, same friends, pics of each other, bleah, bleah, bleah.

    • Greg Eigsti

      And a stolen photo (Bonnie and Clyde) goes up on Joseph’s new FB page.

      I think there is a reason that Joe is working on the family farm, a reason he cannot figure out stealing is bad, a reason he is engaged to that thing (yeah she is hideous in every way). Joe is not the sharpest spoon in the drawer, what I mean is that he is not a rocket surgeon.

      Joe, I am calling you out (again), it is time to stop acting like a boy and start acting like a man. Own up to your responsibilities and make amends. Until then you remain a pussy. And kick that gutter trash to the curb, the sooner the better. She WILL steal from you and your family, she WILL make you miserable, you WILL thank me. Yuck, what a skank! Nice choice.

      • captain-confuzzled

        Bonnie and Clyde …bwahahahaha, now that’s just silly. Well, Lala has practice with grand theft auto (wasn’t it?), celebrity thieves, you go Joe! own it! yep, brings a whole new meaning to shoot and burn.

        • Joel

          Yeah the Bonnie and Clyde thing really seems like owning up to it. Probably to late for either of them now. Someone has drank the kool-aid and is in to far now.

        • Guest

          It said grand theft, not grand theft auto like the video game…lol. Money over a certain amount that is “stolen” turns into Grand Theft. I believe if you look it up it was not auto related, but instead she was using forged checks. Perhaps I’m wrong? Also it looks like she was charged for the same thing or similar things two or three different times.

      • C Sab

        They’re both pussies.

      • Anonymous

        It doesn’t appear that the “Bonnie and Clyde” is a photo he is using to decieve people into what he can do as a photographer. It looks like its more of a band or event that he likes? If thats the case then I’d say there isn’t an issue with the photo/advertisement at all. Just a posting of his interests. If I am correct and the photo is a band or something he likes then I’d hardly say its a “stolen” photo. It would be no different than every photo/comic that we have all reposted on facebook because we liked it or thought it was funny. None of us have gotten permission to repost the photo/artwork from the photographer/artist who created it. So if we consider this an illegal act against him then we are all criminals. (Now with that said, what was previously done on their photography site is still wrong but no correlation to this “bonnie and clyde” photo)

        • Justin Case

          I think people are picking up on the idea of a husband-and-wife/boyfriend-and-girlfriend breaking the law kinda vibe: a la Bonnie and Clyde. Maybe Joe has a sense of humor, but has missed the point.

        • Guest

          Seems to me as though we are just looking so much for a new reason to keep the bashing alive that we are making up scenarios now.

          • Greg Eigsti

            That is correct. My desire is to keep this alive until I hear apologies/amends have been made. So yes, I’ll keep a little flame going until this scum is washed away. Already a couple new and worthwhile posts after this thread slowed down, maybe this bashing helped, maybe not?

          • Guest

            Well the best of luck to you with this. Honestly seems like it make have helped to stop them at the time, but I question what all the bashing and opinionated statements actually have done?

          • Greg Eigsti

            Well it is getting you hot under the collar – hopefully it is doing the same to the fine folks of Hermitage who will voice our displeasure.

          • Guest

            Hot under the collar? Not at all. If anything I’m dissapointed. Dissappointed that all the efforts on here really have not done anything to fix the problem. The root cause has not been found nor fixed. Without legal action from the photographers who are the actual victims here….nothing will ever get fixed. I am very happy that these two have been outed and maybe some customers made aware, but all we did was get upset and throw some negative comments around on some site on the internet. Its sad that these two will walk away from this and probably smarter for the next time they do it.

          • Greg Eigsti

            Agreed, terribly frustrating. As I said “long ago” there is something unsettling with this one (skin crawl I believe). Recently there have been posts (Stacey) letting us know that local photographers are definitely in the know, and there was the news coverage – so some justice has been served.

            The really sad thing is that there have been 3-4 new PhotoStealers outed in the last day or two and that is only the tip of the iceberg. I believe it is at least partly a cultural thing, we see entire photo staffs being laid off in favor of “mobile phone equipped newsgrabbers”, kabillions of images uploaded to FB a day. The run of the mill photo supply has far exceeded the demand… Photos have lost their value because “I take a thousand (crap) photos a day on my iphone and I let others repost them so I should be able to repost anything I want”. If you re-read all of the posts here you will see examples of L&B supporters calling this a minor little thing – not the theft that it is.

            I wonder if we have always had the same percentage of scammers to non-scammers and the internet just makes them more visible? Or are we becoming more immoral as a society by the day? Or some or all or none of the above 🙂

            Sorry that I jumped on you, I figured you were also “Anonymous” who has also been posting in this thread.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Are you BLIND… the Photostealers site has shutdown more photographers than anywhere else worldwide… and all they do is spread the word in the community.
            You know any other site that has that ability.

            If not for their efforts the photographers on this page would continue with their stealing and misrepresentation.

            So yes this site has done great service but its not a fix it all.

        • Greg Eigsti

          Is his use of someone else’s ok then, and that is your legal opinion? Furthermore it is ok for you and your friends to post others work on your Facebook / Instagram / whatever pages just because everybody is using it? When you post others work to your accounts do you at least give the original artist credit?

          Bonnie and Clyde is not the issue – the issue is that he appears to be ripping off photos again. I say appears because 1) that is not his shot and 2) maybe it is a free to use image. Just has a bad appearance which goes hand in hand with what we have seen out of this duo so far.

          Oh, and please don’t consider me a criminal because I don’t post others work with explicit permission. To do so would be illegal and immoral.

          • Anonymous

            I’m not sure if its just your stubborness or your lack of intelligence or maybe you can’t read? Either way you obviously missed the point. Hurry along and join your angry Mob of misfits and based on your previous message you seem to be the one lacking on the situation. Take care.

          • captain-confuzzled

            bwahahahaaha…”angry mob of misfits”, just loving it! let’s see, if you steal photos you are an upright citizen, if you call someone out on it, you are part of an angry mob of misfits. it doesn’t get funnier than this! (or maybe I should say scarier)

          • Anonymous

            You’re right it is scary….and just plain sad. What is sad is that a group of people can’t get together to better society and correct wrong doers without turning it into nothing more than a bash session. I’m not saying everyone on here is like that, but I assure you that more than not are sitting there trying to feel like that fit in by throwing out angry comments and misplaced efforts. Yes I agree with what they did was wrong, but however I don’t see how a group of angry people that live miles away are benifiting anything once they outed these two.

          • MPR1776

            What’s sad is that the wrong doer expects to say “oops, my bad” and that be the end of it. They can go along their merry way and do it all over again under a new name. Had these two put as much effort into learning how to take a pic as they did spending time stealing pics they might actually have had a real business going now.

          • Anonymous

            I couldn’t agree with you more. And thay is what hey expect to do….just a sorry and do it all over again. Sadly our government is set up like that and the effort and money sometimes isn’t worth taking them to court. I think they are scared and in hiding, but I think they really have not learned their lesson and won’t do it again, but rather try to hide it better next time.
            I also agree that the effort to steal the photos could have been spent on taking picture after picture until you had your own collection to be proud of.

          • Greg Eigsti

            Yes my efforts may be totally wasted but that comes down to my own personal choice of where to spend my limited time. But then again my efforts may not be wasted…

            >>I don’t see how a group of angry people that live miles away are benifiting

            I am willing to risk no benefit or a deferred benefit, my investment is just about nil. My question is given that these are law breaking thieves why would we not continue to whine, and why the objection to continued whining? Should we just accept failure and line up with the other sheep?

            Really I am interested in your thoughtful answers and a dialogue. Maybe we can have a peaceful dialogue and both walk away enriched.

          • Joel

            RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!

          • Greg Eigsti

            Oh you know its really all of the above. I am stubborn, stupid and I cannot read. You nailed it!

            So please fill this ignoramus in – what was your point? That it is ok to steal if everybody is doing it? (somebody else read that to me – I am on a special gov’t program using your tax dollars to help me just get though life). Time to go back to “drooling for your tax dollars”.

          • Anonymous

            I’m glad that you’re able to admit to your handicaps. Here is a helpful hint. You start at the top left hand corner….read left to right….put all these words together to form sentences….there you go…good boy! Now take out all the added nonsense your little mind is contributing and read what is actually wrote. Or maybe its just too much distraction through the bottom of your sippy cup as the clock ticks closer to nap time after recess for you. I’d ask for your age so it would explain “you” to me, but mommy and daddy might not know you’re on their computer again….

          • Greg Eigsti

            Look who’s bashing now 🙂

          • Anonymous

            Lol good call… 😛

  • Stacey

    Thanks Photo Stealers. I am from Hermitage, PA and am a ‘Freelance Photographer’ I never use the word professional because of crap like this! I have re-posted this in my network and am making sure our community knows about scums like this. I have a ton of professional photographers, real ones that have dedicated their entire lives to photography and who barely make a living especially when crap like this surfaces. They do no deserve to be associated in the same pool as ‘photographer’. I will continue to support your site and let you know if anything suspicious comes in our neck of the woods. Thank you for your work that you do.

    • Greg Eigsti

      Awesome possum! Thanks for speaking up.

  • Greg Eigsti

    Magic Lantern for the Canon 5D Mark III has been “released” and the boot flag issue has been resolved. Too busy playing with it to do much else. 🙂

    I’ll bet lula and Jose are excited about this too! Prolly why we have not heard from them – they are in an oblivion of pure camera ecstasy!

    Either that or they are low life thieves who have not the balls to be moral and admit their mistakes. Just wanted you to know that even if we are side tracked with normal human stuff you are being watched and your treachery is far from forgotten.

    Hope that is all going well for you!

  • Theoderik

    Facebook page has been removed.

    • Greg Eigsti

      Thanks for the update, they do indeed appear to be gone. Easy enough to ferret out the new ones though 🙂 A mission for this evening!

  • Greg Eigsti

    http://www.landbphotography.net/ is now gone gone as well

    • Joseph Philbert

      It’s about time… They were really trying to keep it

      • Greg Eigsti

        Looks like the lesson here has been “when you wrong somebody run and hide and don’t make amends”.

        [In your best Chief Wiggum voice]
        Folks should be real proud of that, a bright and shining example for the youth of Hermitage.