Kaleidoscope Photography in Anchorage, Alaska

Website: http://www.kaleidoscope-photography.com/
Thumbtack: http://www.thumbtack.com/ak/anchorage/photographers/photography-services-kaleidoscope-photography
Groupon: https://www.groupon.com/biz/anchorage/kaleidoscope
Craigslist: https://anchorage.craigslist.org/bts/4739668536.html

I’m not sure if the story is true or not but it’s interesting they are claiming to have just moved from Australia and the majority of their work is stolen from an Australian company.  I verified before posting that this new company is not theirs.

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  • Celine (peaceetc)

    To KALEIDOSCOPE PHOTOGRAPHY IN ANCHORAGE, ALASKA,

    Welcome to the world of being outed by Photo Stealers (Stop Stealing Photos). It is our goal to root out and put a stop to photography copyright infringement. Your outing is one step towards that goal. You used photos you were not authorized to use, which is illegal. You’re probably confused and angry, so let us try to help you get a handle on things by giving you a checklist of things you should be doing and not doing.

    Please do NOT do the following:

    1. React with anger, go into denial, or start in with the threats. We already have the evidence against you. The best thing you can do for you is to be honest and to deal with this head on.

    2. Flag comments on this listing. The mods will just put them back, so don’t waste your time.

    3. Lie or offer excuses. We have heard every excuse in the book (really, we have. One guy even blamed Obama.), and you will not come up with something we haven’t heard before. You are not a special snowflake. Nothing you can say will justify what you did, so don’t bother.

    4. Accuse us of slander (because nobody ever figures out it has to be verbal to be slander). We stick to the facts, and if something is publicly available, it’s fair game.

    5. Create fake accounts to defend yourself. We will see through it, and it’s just a waste of time.

    Please DO the following:

    1. Remove any and all stolen images immediately. That means now. Right now. And no, simply hiding them from public view doesn’t count. They need to be completely deleted.

    2. Apologize DIRECTLY to those from whom you have stolen (and tell the truth!), and offer monetary compensation. You used their images in a professional setting to try to make money, so you owe them that much.

    3. Hope they don’t sue you. Copyright infringement is illegal under the law, and you can be sued for thousands of dollars, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, for EACH stolen image. Yes, seriously.

    4. Apologize publicly, on all the sites and social media accounts where the stolen work appeared. Again, you owe it to your clients, fans, friends, etc., to be honest.

    5. Learn about how copyright works. Look up the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. What you may think you know and what is actually the truth are probably two different things (as in: no, posting someone else’s photo as “inspiration” is not a valid reason, nor is it good enough to provide credit. If you don’t have express permission to post someone else’s image, then you don’t post it. That’s it, the end).

    6. DON’T STEAL. It’s not complicated — if you didn’t take a photo and don’t have permission to use it from the actual copyright holder, then don’t use it. It’s that simple. Yes, seriously. You claim to be a photographer, so why on earth would you want to use others’ images, anyway? How does that make sense?

    And remember:

    1. If you do it again, you will be caught. We go back and check old listings to make sure they haven’t started stealing again. And don’t forget — Google knows. Anytime someone searched for your business, this listing will come up.

    2. Think about the actual victims here (no, not you) — those whose images you stole. You screwed them over. And frankly, that’s a pretty damned crappy thing to do. And think about the clients you’ve mislead by presenting a false front. They’re victims, too.

  • Bart
  • Melinda Potter

    Oops! I accidentally “liked” their website. On my iPad and can’t take it back. Just for the record… I do not like KALEIDOSCOPE PHOTOGRAPHY IN ANCHORAGE, ALASKA

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Where did you like it?

      • Melinda Potter

        There was a little FB logo on the bottom of … Their homepage I believe. I thought it might lead me to their Facebook, but instead it tallied a like when I clicked it. For a grand total of one like

        • U Really That Dumb?

          LOL

        • keca

          I’ve done that on other websites. Super annoying!

        • xma1e

          Sounds like a false way go bloat the number of Facebook likes from new visitors!

    • GlennMcQuaig

      Suuuuuure you don’t like them! Lol!

    • xma1e

      Sausage fingers.

  • U Really That Dumb?

    It’s interesting that neither the company nor the owner have any other web presence. Not even on Facebook.

    Also, she has multiple phone numbers on her page and her registration.

    808 670 8698 (HI)
    (907) 521 9133 (Alaska)
    +61.435167422 (Australia)

    Thumbtack image is stolen.

    SHAWNEE WHITEHORSE (OWNER)KALEIDOSCOPE PHOTOGRAPHYALASKA BUSINESS NAME REGISTRATION

    Address: 303 Fireweed Lane
    Anchorage, AK 99503
    Registered Agent: None
    ListedFiling Date: August 20, 2014
    File Number: 10023040

    http://www.bizapedia.com/people/SHAWNEE-WHITEHORSE.html

    Domain Name: KALEIDOSCOPE-PHOTOGRAPHY.COM
    Registry Domain ID: 1868581712_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
    Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
    Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
    Update Date: 2014-07-27 05:41:00
    Creation Date: 2014-07-27 05:41:00
    Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-07-27 05:41:00
    Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
    Registrar IANA ID: 146
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
    Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.480-624-2505
    Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
    Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
    Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
    Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
    Registry Registrant ID:
    Registrant Name: shawnee whitehorse
    Registrant Organization: kaleidoscope photography
    Registrant Street: 2227 Veltri Drive
    Registrant City: English Bay
    Registrant State/Province: Alaska
    Registrant Postal Code: 99603
    Registrant Country: United States
    Registrant Phone: +61.435167422
    Registrant Phone Ext:
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    Registrant Email: shawnee.mcqueen@gmail.com
    Registry Admin ID:
    Admin Name: shawnee whitehorse
    Admin Organization: kaleidoscope photography
    Admin Street: 2227 Veltri Drive
    Admin City: English Bay
    Admin State/Province: Alaska
    Admin Postal Code: 99603
    Admin Country: United States
    Admin Phone: +61.435167422
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    Admin Email: shawnee.mcqueen@gmail.com
    Registry Tech ID:
    Tech Name: shawnee whitehorse
    Tech Organization: kaleidoscope photography
    Tech Street: 2227 Veltri Drive
    Tech City: English Bay
    Tech State/Province: Alaska
    Tech Postal Code: 99603
    Tech Country: United States
    Tech Phone: +61.435167422
    Tech Phone Ext:
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    Tech Email: shawnee.mcqueen@gmail.com
    Name Server: NS53.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
    Name Server: NS54.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
    DNSSEC: unsigned
    URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
    Last update of WHOIS database: 2014-11-5T17:00:00Z

    https://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?domain=kaleidoscope-photography.com&prog_id=GoDaddy&k=rEnXRPCuqjXDm13nxaVGNUkSwlfuXxpLEomaT4fkyL7Cy8iLy0OUeXvyb83mAed06fTSxVYQwkmI9muXqKwAZA%3d%3d

    • Photo Stealers

      They did have a Facebook page but it was deleted.

    • JC

      If you look up the 303 Fireweed Lane address, you’ll find that it’s really for the Sockeye Inn, and not anything remotely close to photography.

  • U Really That Dumb?

    And there goes Thumbtack. Thank you Thumbtack for doing the right thing!
    (I guess it didn’t want to attach. See below.)

    • U Really That Dumb?
  • Bart

    I’ve been trying to source the Wildlife/Nature photos, since everything else seems to be stolen I thought those might be also, I don’t think so, I think these are actual photos taken by Kaleidoscope Photography in Anchorage Alaska. They are pretty bad and look to be taken at a Zoo. Kaleidoscope Photography you live in ALASKA for pete’s sake, a wildlife photographers paradise, get out and take some actual wildlife/nature photos, NOT IN THE ZOO!
    But I guess if a person is to lazy to put up their own photos of wedding and portraits they are going to be to lazy to go for a drive to photograph bears in the wild. Stop stealing other peoples photos!

    • U Really That Dumb?

      But bears in the wild are scary!

      Wait, wasn’t she offering photo safaris?

    • Justin Case

      Sure looks that way. Since all the images were captured on the same day within a few hours of each other, that would have to be one lucky, fearless photographer.

  • Marc W.

    Surprised they’ve been so silent…

    • Melinda Potter

      I like the silent ones. I prefer it actually, even though the loud ones can be entertaining, I much rather not hear the idiocy. That way I can pretend they aren’t complete selfish losers/morons. As long as they clean up, and dont continue to steal, I’m good with silent.

      • I love the entertainment but must agree with the quiet ones.

        Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

  • Me, Myself and I

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again … Groupon for a wedding photographer = RED FLAG!

    Groupon requires up to 80% rebates AND they keep 50% of the sale.

    180-Minute Wedding Photography Package from Kaleidoscope Photography (45% Off)
    source: https://www.groupon.com/deals/kaleidoscope-3

    So their 900$ package is being offered at 549$. Groupon keeps 50% of that 550$ leaving the photographer with 275$ for a 3 hour shoot.

    Initial Meeting (signing a contract): 150 minutes, 60Km traveled (33$ in travel costs).
    Wedding Day: 270 minutes, 60Km traveled (33$ in travel costs).
    Post Processing, ordering prints … : 120 minutes
    Assuming they are a shoot and burn op: 5$ for a nice disk and case and label.
    Final Meeting (handing over the final product, going over the pictures, trying to up-sell): 150 minutes, 60Km traveled (33$ in travel costs).

    Total 180Km traveled, 104$ in hard costs, 690 minutes (11.5 hours) worked.

    275$ – 104$ = 171$

    Let’s put half of that back in the business (web hosting, domain name registration, cell phones, insurance, accountant fees, legal fees, business registration …).

    171$ / 2 = 85.50$ in profit.

    85.50$ / 11.5 hours of work = 7.43$ / an hour.
    Minimum wage in Alaska in 2014 is 7.75$

    Congrats, you are making less than a kid flipping burgers at McDonalds and that’s with a very low sum going back into the business (85.50$ / wedding) and not attending the rehearsal. Attending the rehearsal drops the profitability of the shoot to almost nothing when you also factor in all the time you work on your business that doesn’t generate direct revenue (wedding shows, meeting clients who don’t sign, updating your website and portfolio …) the return drops even more.

    Now add in some gear rental and/or an assisstant/second shooter? You are now LOSING money. You have less money after being paid than you did before shooting the wedding.

    Anyone who can’t see this obviously hasn’t been in business for very long or else they would have realized that they would be going bankrupt.

    GROUPON DOES NOT WORK FOR PHOTOGRAPHY!

  • GlennMcQuaig

    And they use such great English in their webpage! We are not surprised, of course.

    “We are always full of idea’s. Why not contact us to see the difference.”

    Nice apostrophe in “ideas”. Nice period at the end of an interrogative.

  • JD Montana

    I don’t believe we have a US base in Australia. If we did, it would’ve gone on my dream sheet for sure! Lol

    • Melinda Potter

      Maybe no base, but special duty of some sort?

      • JD Montana

        Nothing that would require establishing a residence/phone number, that I know of. I was in for 10 years and never knew anyone that went to Australia for any extended amount of time.

        • BigAl

          It can happen. When I was in the RAF as a radar tech my Engineering Squadron was commanded permanently by a USAF Major on an exchange posting, with an RAF Squadron Leader doing what would otherwise have been the Majors job in the USAF in the States. I also knew RAF officers that did tours with both the RAAF and RNZAF, as well as some other very “interesting” places like Oman. I believe that the USAF did/do the same. These would be full three year accompanied tours. I would imagine the Army/Navy/Marines would have similar arrangements with foreign forces.

          Alan

          • JD Montana

            I was USAF; I never saw any opening in Australia for an overseas tour in the ten years I was in. Working in communications, we went to basically every base. I definitely think they would have short tour assignments there, but not sure if there would be enough long tours to really apply to this situation (stealer being military/spouse). But I’m also not saying I couldn’t be totally wrong. 🙂

    • Wes Jones

      NASA has a deep space tracing station in Canberra. Back in the 1980s when I was in the Air Force it was possible to get an assignment there. I don’t know about now.

  • MLee Kneer

    OK… I am confused (nothing new there.) It seems none of the stolen work has been removed as of yet? Or did I miss something somewhere?

  • Marc W.
  • That must be it…naaaaa its stealing plain and simple.

  • Photo Stealers

    Easy, I asked the photographer they stole from in Australia. Not the same person.

  • U Really That Dumb?

    What part of that statement was so hard to understand?

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Have you considered reading ALL of the comments before coming in and making your own? Perhaps then you would have known the WHOLE STORY!

    • Curious

      Actually I have been looking at this one page for a couple of days!!
      Thank you
      I know I grew up not to judge others!! So why not leave people alone? If they truly are stealing it will come out all on it’s own!!

      • I grew up not to judge drug dealers, killers, rapists, etc, etc, etc….. so we should let them all go and continue doing it. Its the American way 🙂

      • Melinda Potter

        “If they truly are stealing it will come out all on it’s own!!”
        Yep, and that’s exactly what happened.
        Sorry, but it’s not wrong to stand up to a bully, scammer, fraud, and say “Hey! What you are doing is wrong, illegal, unethical, and down right shitty”, and in the process make others aware of their deceptive illegal, and unethical business practices. It’s the right thing to do, and most times the only thing that can be done to make them stop.

      • Paul G.

        By that logic, wouldn’t every criminal not only get away, but continue to commit crimes because we’re just leaving them alone and not passing judgement? I wouldn’t really say the site blasts them anyway. Really, all the site itself does is post stolen images next to the original sources, with a small blurb detailing where the picture originally came from and what the thief was trying to pass it off as. All things considered, that’s pretty kind.

      • Just a Girl

        OOOOH! Kudos to you, Sherlock! Looking at one page for a couple of days makes it OK for you to come on here and attempt to rip the hard work that other people have done apart? Heh, your best bet is to go crawl back into your corner and let the better experienced do what they do best.

      • Me, Myself and I

        “If they truly are stealing it will come out all on it’s own!!”
        HOW!?!

        How would it come out on it’s own if people don;t expose it?!? NOTHING comes out on it’s own, it’s brought out in the light kicking and screaming by people like us …

      • Michael Goolsby

        I’ve read this poster’s various comments, and while many of them demonstrated a challenged understanding of these matters, this comment (“If they truly are stealing it will come out all on it’s own!!”) has to be one of the DUMBEST I’ve read. Come out on its own? Geez, that’s like two cops showing up as a bank heist is occurring and holstering their guns and saying, “Well, these characters are obviously bad news. We don’t need to bother with them…. their thieving ways will catch up with them eventually and come out all on its own!”

      • Jim Martin

        Curious said: “If they truly are stealing it will come out all on it’s own!!”

        Yea sure, armies of unicorns and winged monkeys will bring justice down down on the evil photo stealers so long as good people take no action.

        I can’t tell whether you are advocating for moral cowardice (just stand by and let people steal), or you are a sincere fool that thinks justice happens without anyone lifting a finger.

      • ALP

        I grew up being told not to steal. And, hello, moron, this IS it coming out on its own. Consumer fraud like this isn’t pursued by police. They don’t have time for it. If someone wants to bring a civil suit it will be prosecuted but consumer protection groups and the media (of which PhotoStealers is a part) are exactly how this kind of theft is brought to light.

  • Celine (peaceetc)

    Photo Stealers does a lot of research before they post anything. They have clear evidence of the stealing, and lay it all out on each listing.

    I would suggest you do your own research into the matter, and understand how these things work before you try to put us on blast yourself. This *is* them being caught, Curious. It usually happens after photographers trying to get the stealers to stop using their images without success. I don’t know if that’s the case in this particular instance, but it usually is.

    The only other course of option is for each photographer to sue the stealer. That is cost prohibitive, and most people don’t have the time or ability to sue others. This site does a great service to photographers, and is lauded by respected photographers, sites, and other parties.

    In other words, Photo Stealers does know. You, however, have a lot to learn.

  • Well this site was made to put those who steal images…and overlooking my obvious sarcasm they did and now we the “people” put them on blast for the world to see!
    Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

  • Photo Stealers

    There isn’t just one photographer they stole from, there are multiple. RNL was one of them. I contacted who I could and they hadn’t worked for, nor WERE, any of the photographers I spoke to in Australia. Satisfied?

    • Curious

      So you contacted who you could? And your not sure if rnl was one you talked too!!!!! Shouldn’t you be 1000% on top of all before you stamp them as guilty? And who are you to say they are guilty? Have they been charged with a crime? Court hearings? Past charges? What ever happened until innocent until proven guilty? Just curious, honestly!!

      • WE PhotoStealers are 1000% sure they are guilty and its backed by solid evidence. You do not have that nor can you prove otherwise. After the post the guilty removed and shutdown websites they owed because of this post. Is it a crime YES but only the owners can take them to court all we do is list the evidence.
        Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

      • Me, Myself and I

        “Shouldn’t you be 1000% on top of all before you stamp them as guilty?”

        What part of “I spoke to at least 3 photographers who stated they did not have permission to use the images, nor had they taken the images.” don’t you understand?

  • Factitious_Detector

    Yes, people who do the WRONG THING should never have to be made to suffer any consequences, because it’s “not cool”. Makes perfect sense to me.

    Nevermind that it’s “not cool” to lie, defraud, infringe on another persons (copy)rights, steal, and try to take the lazy arsed way in the meantime… How is that perfectly “ok”?

    Oh those of us who expose these fakers are the bad guys huh? Rubbish.

    • Curious

      I never once said wut, if they ARE stealing is “ok”
      Wut I am saying is two wrongs don’t make a right!!! Just because one is doing wrong does not make it ok for you to do wrong!!! Sure they might be stealing but that does not make what you are doing ok!! That’s why I stated it’s not cool!!! All who do wrong are eventually caught, one way or another!!! Thats wut I’m trying to say

      • We “PhotoStealers” just caught them doing wrong its wrong to steal and ding ding they were caught Red handed and “WE” posted the evidence … there no law against it nor is it wrong,

      • Just a Girl

        Christ! Would you at least use a damn dictionary if you are struggling with proper grammar and spelling!

  • Photo Stealers

    But it is totally cool putting people on blast that PUT people on blast. Gotcha.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Why even respond to this troll?

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        People who sweep in here and try calling us out without knowing anything about anything piss me off.

        • U Really That Dumb?

          Do they not know that this is NOT the millennium to piss you off?

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            The next one isn’t looking good, either.

    • ALP

      What exactly is “putting people on blast?” Posting proof to a blog? It’s not like Corey takes up skywriting or calls the Chamber of Commerce where the stealer lives. The proof is right there at the top of this post. And my guess is that the reason Corey doesn’t remember every single detail of who she talked to in the case is because of the sheer number of stealers she deals with on a regular basis. And here’s the real kicker: if these people don’t want to get caught and revealed as having stolen photos on their websites, they could just NOT PUT STOLEN PHOTOS ON THEIR WEBSITES.

  • Me, Myself and I

    Ah … I see … make the whistle blowers the bad guys ignoring the crimes committed by the scam artist … right …got you …

    *rolls eyes*

  • Here is another curious question… WHY bother asking this crap on a post about a photo stealer that been here since November 5th proven and moved on. Why bring traffic to this?

    • Just a Girl

      Awww Joseph….. its quiet so lets let the troll play. 🙂 Maybe it will eventually move on and bring attn to the other listings….

    • Curious

      I was looking up photographers in my area and this popped up
      So I started reading and looking around at stuff
      That’s WHY I posted to a feed from November!!
      What ever happened to innocent to proven guilty????
      Has this photographer been charged? Any pending court hearings or anything like that? If not then why is EVERYONE jumping in on them? Yes I get it they may have stolen pictures, got it but you guys are not just accusing them of this you are 1000% labeling them guilty!! If they have not been charged and found guilty then what you and all you are doing is wrong!! There is no way around that!!

      • Can you read? Is your computer able to render images? Do have any comprehension skills? Lets see … Hmmm…
        By the evidence alone listed here she is guilty of plagiarism period and because of this post the guilty person removed all the evidence and was removed from the CreativeLive roster and WPPI. Something that does not happen to the innocent . She has been shunned by the entire photographic community who were able to comprehend the same information that you unable or willing to see. Plagiarism is a bad thing that professionals should avoid like the plague. Is she a great photographer YES, Is she a good teacher YES but that does not absolve her of the crime.
        Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

      • Me, Myself and I

        Scroll back to the top … there is the proof. Side by side comparisons of photos from his gallery and the actual original sources … if that’s not enough proof for you …

      • Marc W.

        “What ever happened to innocent to proven guilty????”

        You are confusing the court of law with the court of public proof and opinion.

      • Michael Goolsby

        Maybe we’re supposed to offer them a phone call, too?

        • Just so you know this person IP address says its in the US.
          So its not even close to their area … Curious aint it.

          Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

      • Melinda Potter

        You could also go to the websites listed above for the theif, and see that there is still stolen images up on their site if the screen shots aren’t enough proof for you. Yes, they are still advertising and soliciting their services to the public using images created by other photographers.
        Exsactly how much proof is needed?!

  • Me, Myself and I

    1- Your complete disregard for the facts.
    2- Your confrontational attitude.

    It’s been proven that he used images not his own, lifted from the internet to promote his business. He miss represented himself and violated several photographers copyrights yet you come in here and poke a hornets nest in hopes of getting a reaction …

    Here … let me get you the definition of Internet Troll:

    A person whose sole purpose in life is to seek out people to argue with on the internet over extremely trivial issues.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Internet+Troll

    You are arguing this after it’s all said and done … MONTHS after the fact … if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck …

  • By the way thank you for bring this old post back up I emailed RNL Photography and they replied to me they did not know their images were being used. Ain’t that a shit LOL

  • RNL Photography

    As the owner of RNL photography I can confirm that these images were stolen. I know this because I took them. The metadata will also show this. Most of the images are of a couple who are friends of mine, who would also confirm that I took these images. And to be honest they would be disgusted to see their photos on this frauds page.

    • Photo Stealers

      Many are still up on the page so if some are yours make sure to send a DMCA to the webhost to get them taken down.

    • Me, Myself and I

      I hope you are considering legal action against this thief.

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Because you ARE a troll!

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Look up CRI

  • U Really That Dumb?

    How about you tell us who you really are. Until then you are a confirmed troll that’s just brought this post to the top of the search engine. If you thought you were helping the thief, you did! They are now back at the TOP of Google and BING. Way to go!

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Yes, yes to does! It is 100% illegal in ALL countries around the world!
    Just because everyone else is doing it doesn’t make it legal.

  • BigAl

    Or let’s take the picture of the rings….. Isn’t that just a picture of jewelry online?? I save pictures I find alllll the time to my phone, share them on Facebook etc etc
    Does that mean I am stealing or you are stealing if you use another’s picture that THEY created and use it for your own?? We all do it!!!

    This action would be illegal in all Bern Convention countries, which includes the US, the whole of the EU and most other developed countries in the world. So yes you would be stealing, even if you attributed the work to the original author you would still be contravening the authors rights in the work, which amounts to intellectual property theft.

    So you have just admitted to theft.

    Alan

    • U Really That Dumb?

      But @BigAl:disqus, EVERYONE DOES IT done-ya-no?

  • Marc W.
  • Melinda Potter

    How a copyright infringers are discovered, and some other tid bits of information to try to help those ignorant to how this all works:
    First, just to get this out of the way, a person who claims themselves a photographer, and then decides to steal photographs from other photographers is the lowest of low of any sort of copyright infringer out there. It’s the most unethical, stupid, crazy, lazy, disrespectful, horribad thing a photographer could ever do. I’m pretty confident I can speak for everyone in the photography community, from peon amateur to well known pro, when I state the above.

    A photographer notices while going through their copyright protection workflow and/or happens upon their work being used by someone illegally. OR A photographer notices an ad or some sort of marketing that makes them question wether the work that is shown is actually theirs, or lifted off the internet. This is suspected when quality and/or styles are inconsistent throughout a port. A lay person may not even notice the differences, but photographers can usually see these differences quite easily and quickly. Or a photograph being used and claimed by a thief is readily recognized as another photographer’s work (it’s a pretty tight community, and/or a well known or popular photographer gets that way by creating a recognized style all their own. As in “I’ve seen this before. This looks a lot like so and so’s work”) A reverse look up of the image/images is done to confirm that the images in question are indeed created by someone else, and further investigation takes place.
    Original artists are notified that their work has been found in a fellow photographers port.
    Most times this all happens behind the scenes and the infringer gets notified that the jig is up, receives take down notices, invoices, DCMA’a. Then in the majority of cases the infringer ignores the demands and/or lashes out against the original artists, and/or people who have tried to warn the infringer that the original creators were notified, and that what they are doing is unethical and against the law. Many refuse to take down images, or only take down those that were discussed instead of removing ALL the stolen content. In these cases the domain server/website hosts/site owners are notified and they take down the infringed material and/or remove the sites entirely. Invoices, lawsuits (and this is a civil matter not something for criminal court, unless the fraud goes even further than photo stealing and misrepresentation), and whatnot all happen privately behind the scenes. Some have been successfully sued, and original content creators are compensated, but… Most times its a “you can’t get blood from a turnip situation”. Remember these are frauds that are either unable or unwilling to create their own content, and obviously lack in business ethics and/or business savvy. Kind of difficult to keep a profitable business going like that. Not that it’s not unheard of, especially when the fauxtographers in question make their living selling to photographers and not from their cameras.

    Photostealers comes in at anytime after the first reverse image search has been done. Many times only AFTER every attempt was made to get the images removed. I personally don’t contact PS until I am ignored, or verbally attacked by a thief I have discovered. And only after I give them a warning that I will contact PS if they don’t oblige and take down all the stolen content. But, this warning isn’t necessary before taking things further, and it’s not wrong to submit here without warning. These people already know what they are doing is wrong, so not everyone takes my same approach.
    Warning or no warning, you can be guaranteed that the admin here at Photostealers doesn’t just willy nilly post without a through investigation, contact with original creators and/or others who discovered the thief, plenty of screen shots, and a complete picture of the theft before hand. Yes, a lot of times even MORE theft, fraud, and shiftiness is uncovered as the thief gets discussed in the comments, more often than not, by the thieves themselves while trying to prove innocence, deflect the blame, or claim to be victimized. BUT this page admin has all the evidence needed to make an accurate posting with all the evidence needed to back it up. The same evidence used in court to win suits. It’s all there for anyone willing to read and has the ability to comprehend what it is they are looking at.

    Curious, I’m with you. I’d love to see all of these thrives go to court and have this site become useless as garbage, but sadly it’s just not how things work. Go ahead and do some research of your own. Google “what do I do if someone steals my picture?” just to get started. It’s not like there’s a task force out there helping photographers protect their copyright. That’s why this page’s admin felt the need to step up.

  • Melinda Potter

    Troll isn’t necessarily calling you a name, as it is labeling your behavior. What you are doing is a keen to going to some sort of product review page, reading that all the reviewers said that the item broke after one use and wasn’t the item pictured, and then replying to all of them with : but, what if it’s not really broken and you just aren’t using it right?What if this company wasn’t the one that made the product? What if it was the inspector’s fault for not inspecting it properly? You can’t publicly bash this company, until you KNOW for certain this company made the product that you received. Maybe it was a mix up of some sort? Yes, this company MAY have created and sold to you a defective product that wasn’t at all as advertised, but that doesn’t make what you are doing any less wrong. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Don’t judge.

  • Melinda Potter

    Photographers create content. They don’t Google search and grab content. They don’t even search stock sites and purchase content legally. “Hey, I need a good photo of some rings for a wedding flyer”. Then they look through their archive of pictures and find one, OR they create one.
    It’s what they do. It’s how they make their living. It’s what they are hired to do, and what they are using the ring picture they just created to solicate to potential photography clients.
    Once again, photographers create images, they do not Google search for photographs made by other photographers to use in their marketing.
    Quit being asinine.

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Sign number ??? that you are a troll:
    You are a coward using an unverified account! How about you verify your identity before you open up your pie hole again?!?!