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Back Country Photography in New Castle, Pennsylvania

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/backcoutryphoto/timeline

Fake stories/names are my favorite.

Update 11/14/2014 @ 10:30 PM

Her Facebook Page is back up with an apology.  It also still has some images that are not hers.  There’s also some still up from the first slew of images as well.  The new images are below.

 

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New images:

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Unknown original source (possibly profile image of Etsy seller)

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Original source (her website is currently down)

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  • U Really That Dumb?

    Let’s just nip this one in the bud, shall we? I know, it won’t work, but let’s pretend it will.

    To BACK COUNTRY PHOTOGRAPHY IN NEW CASTLE, PENNSYLVANIA,

    Welcome to the world of being outed by Photo Stealers (Stop Stealing Photos). It is our goal to root out and put a stop to photography copyright infringement. Your outing is one step towards that goal. You used photos you were not authorized to use, which is illegal. You’re probably confused and angry, so let us try to help you get a handle on things by giving you a checklist of things you should be doing and not doing.

    Please do NOT do the following:

    1. React with anger, go into denial, or start in with the threats. We already have the evidence against you. The best thing you can do for you is to be honest and to deal with this head on.

    2. Flag comments on this listing. The mods will just put them back, so don’t waste your time.

    3. Lie or offer excuses. We have heard every excuse in the book (really, we have. One guy even blamed Obama.), and you will not come up with something we haven’t heard before. You are not a special snowflake. Nothing you can say will justify what you did, so don’t bother.

    4. Accuse us of slander (because nobody ever figures out it has to be verbal to be slander). We stick to the facts, and if something is publicly available, it’s fair game.

    5. Create fake accounts to defend yourself. We will see through it, and it’s just a waste of time.

    Please DO the following:

    1. Remove any and all stolen images immediately. That means now. Right now. And no, simply hiding them from public view doesn’t count. They need to be completely deleted.

    2. Apologize DIRECTLY to those from whom you have stolen (and tell the truth!), and offer monetary compensation. You used their images in a professional setting to try to make money, so you owe them that much.

    3. Hope they don’t sue you. Copyright infringement is illegal under the law, and you can be sued for thousands of dollars, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, for EACH stolen image. Yes, seriously.

    4. Apologize publicly, on all the sites and social media accounts where the stolen work appeared. Again, you owe it to your clients, fans, friends, etc., to be honest.

    5. Learn about how copyright works. Look up the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. What you may think you know and what is actually the truth are probably two different things (as in: no, posting someone else’s photo as “inspiration” is not a valid reason, nor is it good enough to provide credit. If you don’t have express permission to post someone else’s image, then you don’t post it. That’s it, the end).

    6. DON’T STEAL. It’s not complicated — if you didn’t take a photo and don’t have permission to use it from the actual copyright holder, then don’t use it. It’s that simple. Yes, seriously. You claim to be a photographer, so why on earth would you want to use others’ images, anyway? How does that make sense?

    And remember:

    1. If you do it again, you will be caught. We go back and check old listings to make sure they haven’t started stealing again. And don’t forget — Google knows. Anytime someone searched for your business, this listing will come up.

    2. Think about the actual victims here (no, not you) — those whose images you stole. You screwed them over. And frankly, that’s a pretty damned crappy thing to do. And think about the clients you’ve mislead by presenting a false front. They’re victims, too.

  • U Really That Dumb?
  • typeaimages

    Well, to be fair, her real work is so bad what choice did she have? ; )

  • They will rebrand as Back Water Photography

    • Helena Handbasket

      I think you meant Backwash Photography. You’re welcome.

      • Helena

        Lol

    • Photo Stealers

      I kept reading it as Back Door. Oops.

  • Helena

    I know you’ll be shocked to hear that Back Country Photography is not registered with the state.

    • Kelly Skuta

      I pay my taxes and do not have to have my name registerd in the state of PA , oh and let me clarify neither is short story photography , that brings in income whole she collect welfare

      • Melinda Potter
        • Helena

          Oh that’s unfortunate. That would mean she would have come up in my business entity search. Whoops!

        • Me, Myself and I

          And another “business” started without doing at least minimal prep work.

          Operating an assumed named business? You need to register.

          Also, if your cutesy name is registered as a trademark for an existing company they could sue you for trademark infringement … not so if the business name is your name.

      • Melinda Potter

        Did short story get caught using other people’s work as their own? Did the get a posting here at photostealers? No? Then we aren’t interested

      • Melinda Potter

        http://smallbusiness.chron.com/tax-id-certificate-pennsylvania-12216.html

        “To conduct business in Pennsylvania, you must register your business and obtain a Pennsylvania Tax Identification number. This number identifies your business to the Pennsylvania Department of Revenue when paying a variety of state business taxes, including sales tax, employee withholdings, and filing your business income tax return”

  • captain-confuzzled
    • Helena

      Rated herself 5 stars…

      • I posted this on all her reviews 🙂

        • Helena

          Excellent! 😀

        • anonymous

          OMG>>>> I almost wet myself laughing that Joe’s “famous” line…. just forgot the “almost”

          • Me, Myself and I

            or “in”famous? 🙂

      • Me, Myself and I

        Why oh WHY do they do that!?!? That is beyond TACKY!

    • MPR1776

      Yes, I believe it is the same one

    • Kelly Skuta

      no it isn’t me , there are actually 3

  • Glenn Bruce

    Facebook already gone?

    • Helena

      Looks like.

      • Big Ron

        Nope. The link is wrong. missing an “n”.

        • GlennMcQuaig

          Well, that explains why the link didn’t take me anywhere before! Lol! But it does look like all the content is now down. FB page is empty.

          • Photo Stealers

            My link was correct, the one with the N is a different photographer.

          • GlennMcQuaig

            Thanks for clarifying that!

        • Photo Stealers

          No, she misspelled the name on Facebook. She took her page down a while ago.

          The link with the N is not related to Kelly Sue Skuta.

  • Guest

    She’s a naughty girl….
    Lawrence County
    Kelly Sue Skuta, unlicensed, of New Castle, Lawrence County, was assessed a
    $2,000 civil penalty and ordered to cease and desist from holding herself out and
    practicing as a real estate broker or salesperson until properly licensed. Skuta
    held herself out as engaging in or conducting the business, or acting in the
    capacity of a real estate salesperson without first being licensed or registered
    and she attempted to obtain a real estate salesperson license by false
    representation, fraudulent act, or conduct. (06-08-07) https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CD0QFjAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.portal.state.pa.us%2Fportal%2Fserver.pt%2Fdocument%2F1225039%2F08-07_licensing_boards_pdf&ei=JUpiVKb-G4z9yQSZ4IKgCw&usg=AFQjCNH_PlkGOeXDflwJflpw8QfxbQa2qw&sig2=WNcthm2np3TzHFdwea6CRw&bvm=bv.79189006,d.aWw

    • Kelly Skuta

      and asshole this is not me this is my husbands family member . get a life

      • Marc W.

        Really? Your husband married someone with the same first and middle name?

        • Paul G.

          He must really have a type.

        • Helena

          FWIW I could only find one Kelly S Skuta in New Castle, PA and nationwide.

  • Big Ron

    Why are comments moderated now? Used to be I could just post.

    • Melinda Potter

      Previous stealers have gotten a little out of hand, posting hate, racism, and just outright horribleness using several accounts/names. Once you confirm you are Big Ron once, you shouldn’t have anymore problems. At least that’s how it went down for me.

      • Factitious_Detector

        Yeah, just look up Teresa Blau-Kursman if you ever want to see why it’s a good idea things are modded now.

    • Savannah

      That’s kind of awesome. Glad they are moderated!

  • GlennMcQuaig

    I’m confused as to which “Back Country Photography” this is. The Facebook link provided doesn’t go to that page and the only one I found in Pennsylvania is in Latrobe, not New Castle.

    Any clarity that can be given here?

    • Melinda Potter

      The Facebook page has already been taken down by the photo theif.

      • GlennMcQuaig

        Thanks, Melinda. That was quick.

        • Justin Case

          Glenn, there are LOTS of ‘Back Country(s)’ out there. But so far as I can see, only ONE that spells their name ‘backcoutryphoto’ on facebook.

          (As Melinda has pointed out and the thief admits above, she has now removed the page).

          Believe it or not, she is NOT the first person featured on this site who can’t even spell her own name correctly. Go figure.

          • Christopher C.

            If the Facebook comment posted by mrwpa is any indication, she can’t spell much of ANYTHING correctly.

          • GlennMcQuaig

            These things are just painful. Think I bruised my cheek from the face palm I just did. Now I have to go check my own site to make sure I spelled my name correctly. :-/

      • Kelly Skuta

        Facebook has removed my account do to it being compromised . I did not remove it .

        • Well that is orginal…but itsa lie facebook never removes hacked/compromised accounts. This is not new you and almost every photostealer say they got hacked. That way they can save face but here it just makes you look like an idiot.

        • Photo Stealers

          If they removed the account it was due to the copyright infringements, not because it was “compromised”

  • mrwpa

    LOL

    • Ummmmmmm WHAT.
      <–scratches head.

      • Christopher C.

        It’s those wily hackers! Because whenever an account is compromised, the first thing a hacker does is upload a bunch of photos.

        • Helena

          Yeah, rather than write a load of abusive statements or change the password, they always seem to upload stolen photos. Funny that.

          • Me, Myself and I

            Of course! they commit a federal crime just to post stolen images on your page and site! Forget about using your account to get money by asking people to send “you” money cause you are in a jam or to spam the hell out of your contacts for ad click revenue …

          • Kelly Skuta

            that’s what all of you didn’t see was the moths of shit she put me threw simply because she was called for posting photos from a tutu childrens catalog and having an affair see this is personal not professional reasons she is doing this and that is fine it is in the laws hands now.

          • Marc W.
          • Photo Stealers

            Sure… that’s why “she” even commented to let YOUR client know where this “family session” was at.

          • Helena

            Hahaha. Oh whoops. Damn those hackers, changing things months ago. :p

          • Melinda Potter

            Kelly, you stole photos to pad your portfolio to try to attract more customers, you got caught. Don’t turn this into anything else than what it is. It just succeeds at making you look worse, and even more unintelligent. Please, as much as I would love the entertainment, don’t do this to yourself. Just don’t continue

          • Christopher C.

            You’re right. It’s in the hands of the law. The photographers from whom you stole will have every right to use the law to take action against you.

            So when it comes down to it being in the hands of the law, a relatively simple subpoena would very easily get the IP addresses that were used to upload the infringed photos to Facebook. And yeah, those are going to be your IP addresses.

            See, you can’t just say “HACKERS!” and expect that to be a usable argument against people who actually understand how computers work.

          • Helena

            Who is “she”? What are you on about?

          • GlennMcQuaig

            Please, once more. This time in English.

          • Kelly Skuta

            Please this time understand that I had a phone that did not have a spell check or keyboard that worked perfectly!!!

          • U Really That Dumb?

            PLEASE for the love of Pete go learn about IP and MAC addresses!

          • U Really That Dumb?

            Who is your cellular carrier?

          • Kelly Skuta

            none of your buisness

          • U Really That Dumb?

            I don’t actually care. My point is you are FOS. You don’t have a phone with Wi-Fi that doesn’t also have spellcheck.

          • GlennMcQuaig

            Ok, fine. Now please retype it in English, so we can understand what you meant.

          • ALP

            And if your imaginary business partner was posting anything to your Facebook page that you didn’t want, you should have removed them as an admin and changed the password. That’s not being hacked; that’s being lazy.

          • Kelly Skuta

            you are very right about this, I have one question? what proof do you or anyone else have that what anyone on here tells you is true? OTHER then actually photo proof? you simply take the word of anyone? not being a smart ass really wondering?

          • Melinda Potter

            Kelly, photos were found on your page that were questionable. They were sourced to the original creators therefor proving you indeed did not make all the images you use to market your services. Photographers do NOT use other people’s creative work to promote themselves PERIOD. Have you taken the time to click on the original sources to the photographs you stole? Take a look. We have. Then take a look at the screen shots and caches of you page. See there? You had their images, on your page, and used their images to market yourself. There is no more proof needed. I honestly don’t care about your friends/enemies, or personal life at all. YOU are the one that keeps dragging all that into this. Holy shit! I’d hate to see your behavior if you actually attacked and stabbed someone or did anything more serious than what you were exposed here for doing. Get over it. I don’t expect you to come clean to your clients/audience or apologize (though it would be a nice gesture

          • Melinda Potter

            Just don’t steal again, and leave it at that

          • Melinda Potter

            Kelly, photos were found on your page that were questionable. They were sourced to the original creators therefor proving you indeed did not make all the images you use to market your services. Photographers do NOT use other people’s creative work to promote themselves PERIOD. Have you taken the time to click on the original sources to the photographs you stole? Take a look. We have. Then take a look at the screen shots and caches of you page. See there? You had their images, on your page, and used their images to market yourself. There is no more proof needed. I honestly don’t care about your friends/enemies, or personal life at all. YOU are the one that keeps dragging all that into this. Holy shit! I’d hate to see your behavior if you actually attacked and stabbed someone or did anything more serious than what you were exposed here for doing. Get over it. I don’t expect you to come clean to your clients/audience or apologize (though it would be a nice gesture), but quit attempting to lie to us. Go ahead and keep lying to your friends, family, and clients, but don’t try to lie to the people who know what you know to be true. That’s just stupid, and so very rude. You want this to go away? Take the advice that’s already been given to you. STOP lying to us, dragging who knows who into it, making excuses, trying to turn things around to make you look like the victim, etc just quietly go away and continue to be the person you are that is unable take responsibility for herself. Then we will have no one left to argue with.

          • Marc W.
          • Kelly Skuta

            your right

          • HOW DARE YOU!

            Months of shit? Like what hahaha. You blocked me when u knew my family and the brown family and anyone who knew that you stole all the fundraiser money to get Abbie home for Wally’s funeral. Other then that- you got nothing. Zilch. Nada. And go ahead and play the “Lindsey had an affair and divorced her husband card”. That’s none of your business. And has nothing to with you being a thief.And side note: when were we business partners? Haha.

          • Marc W.

            Both of you shut up. Take this offline. This website is StopStealingPhotos.com, not StopYourPettyBS.com

          • HOW DARE YOU!

            What? She’s claiming I started this page for 1. Two that I was her business partner. None of which is true. Backing my shit up.

          • Marc W.

            For one, You and the Admin did state that you didn’t start this. Good, that’s taken care of. Now B, You also stated you were never her business partner. Great. That’s fine too. But now you guys are going on about some friken funeral and house and divorce. Please direct all that crap for http://www.newcastledramaqueens.com

          • Melinda Potter

            THANK YOU

          • Justin Case

            ^ best reply on this whole thread. ^

            Seriously, Kelly S. Skuta, this whole thing should have ended on the first day when your facebook page was removed. But no, you had to make things worse by lying on your facebook page, making excuses, bringing your pretty drama bullshit in and now it’s all spiraling out of control for you.

            Just remember, YOU brought this on yourself. All we ask is that you stop ripping off other photographers and potential clients. All the rest is on you and your bullshit.

    • Chris Jones

      😀

    • Marc W.

      .attachment.

  • Marc W.

    “Studies at The New York Institute of Photography
    In 2014”

    • Melinda Potter

      Is that one of those scam schools like AI of Pittsburg? Or any of the other Art Institutes? Owned by EDMC? I’ll have to look it up later

      • Marc W.

        “The New York Institute of Photography[1] (or NYIP) is a for-profit distance education school based out of New York City, offering different courses in photography to students all over the world.[2] NYIP currently offers five courses in Photography”

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Institute_of_Photography

        • Melinda Potter

          Yep, not a scam. No degrees or anything to drive people to keep spending money with them. Just five different photography courses. They are for profit, which as far as I’m concerned makes them less credible than a real art school, but they aren’t near as slimey as the art institutes are.

  • Celine (peaceetc)

    Kelly, please know your excuse that someone hacked your Facebook page has already been tried by other stealers, multiple times. No one has ever been able to prove that has actually happened, mainly because it has never actually happened. Unless you have proof someone uploaded things you did not, then just stop. Please. You aren’t doing yourself or anyone else any favors, and instead you’re just making things worse. The stolen images didn’t just appear magically one day. If you pay any attention to your own page, you would have noticed.

    Again, that excuse does not fly. I have a suggestion as to what you should do — you see that pinned post up above in the grey box? Read it very carefully, Kelly. Don’t do the first set, do the second set, and stop it with the lies. You’re a grown woman, for goodness sake. Start acting like one.

    • You can’t fix stupid

      What – fell off my chair for a second – no way! her account was hacked? hahahahahahahahahahaha freaking hilarious

      • Savannah

        And I repeat…where are the bingo cards we were promised? Haha

        • Me, Myself and I

          I’ll get to them soon, I promise. 🙂

          • Savannah

            Gosh… what else could you possibly have to do everyday?? 😉

  • Melinda Potter

    To obtain a state ID number in the state of PA you must register, and both go hand in hand when filing the paper work. You can’t have one without the other in PA. Not according to their information posted. I’ll keep looking though https://revenue-pa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/212/~/application-for-a-sales-tax-license,-promoters-license,-or-wholesalers

  • Melinda Potter

    Sorry, I’m coming up empty. PA is one of the states that are notorious sticklers when it comes to service tax and sales tax, and filling both hobby and business income. They DO make it easy to register for state and federal ID numbers simultaneously though, taking care of registration, and both tax IDs at one go it looks like.

  • Photo Stealers

    Is this english? (Email from Kelly) “The imformation provided on your site is false. The imformation that was given to you about my site was done by my Ex buisness partner Lindsey [redacted] now going by lindsey [redacted]. The imformation is incorrect simply becausr no where did i sate a fact that any photos found on my page were all mine some of the photos i used from pintrest were ideas and photos i liked on my pintrest. The others where messages between lindsey and my self for ideas. Never did anyi e state tbey tokm those pbotos to get buisness. Most of my work is equestrian. The fact that you have a page allowi g peoole to bash someone they dont know or have the real imformation is wrong The internet and social media is easily manipulated and is alot. I currently have pending charges against ms story for her constant harassment . The members of your site are now calling my phone repeatedly and that to is being reported.Its great you have a site I get that play police if thats what you want to do. But when you have no Idea the truth you should check it out a little further. I also understand that there are a majority of the people tbat do lie I am not.”

    • Photo Stealers

      Note that the story is no longer that it was hackers but that they were inspirational photos only. Never you mind the fact that she said the images were of so-and-so or her cousin or this beautiful family at pearson park 😉

      • Melinda Potter

        And never mind that she made ads with them

        • Photo Stealers

          Oh really?

          • Melinda Potter

            Yeah, up there. Isn’t that an ad she made for $45 sessions with stolen photos?

          • Photo Stealers

            Ohhhhh!!!! Duh!

          • Melinda Potter

            Hey, it happens

      • Justin Case

        wait, wait, I thought she was blaming her ex-partner? Wow, I DO need a bingo card to keep track of all these excuses.

    • Melinda Potter

      Everyone get your bingo cards out! This one may hit them all if she keeps changing her stories.

      • Savannah

        No Obama yet… although you know it’s bad when you sit down with a bottle of wine to read this one.

    • Helena

      “The members of your site are now calling my phone repeatedly and that to is being reported.”

      If PS had a dollar for every time someone said this, the site wouldn’t need donations. FYI Kelly, I’m in bed trying to sleep, not calling you. It really is a bingo card opportunity here.

      • Savannah

        I keep saying the same thing… we’ve had an “Obama”, an “ex partner” and a “threat” already in a month.

    • Me, Myself and I

      “The imformation is incorrect simply becausr no where did i sate a fact that any photos found on my page were all mine some of the photos i used from pintrest were ideas and photos i liked on my pintrest.”

      How many times will we need to spell out copyright law and fair use clauses to these people?

      Kelly, YOU NEED PERMISSION TO POST THOSE IMAGES! Pinterest is a huge copyright violation haven … they protect themselves from litigation using the safe harbor laws and by passing legal burden to the user in their ToS.

      You are in way over your head here … you;ve admitted to using images (for inspiration) that didn’t belong to you … there are no laws or exemptions in US copyright laws that allow for this.

      Also, that means that your original story of “being hacked” was a LIE, it makes it that much harder for us to beleive anything else you tell us now.

      “The members of your site are now calling my phone repeatedly and that to is being reported.”

      Kelly Good! Anyone harassing you on the phone should be reported. none of the regulars on here condone that type of action.

      “But when you have no Idea the truth you should check it out a little further”

      Kelly, you’ve admitted yourself, in this very note, that you used images without permission … you are the one woefully uninformed. Please do yourself a favor, consult a lawyer and ask them about copyright and fair use laws … you NEED to know the law, you are woefully unprepared right now.

    • You can’t fix stupid

      I teach English as a second language and my Grade 1’s write better than this.

      • She blames the cellphone’s spell-check but we already know what cellphones do and that is not it.

        • Christopher C.

          I like how she has an excuse for EVERYTHING.

        • You can’t fix stupid

          Auto-correct only changes one or two words not entire bloody sentences.

        • Me, Myself and I

          Spell check would have caught simple things like “imformation” or “becausr” … just saying.

    • V323

      I…….I can’t even. Wow. Are they keys missing off her keyboard? That’s just painful on the eyes.

  • Melinda Potter

    You didn’t steal any pictures for ads or promotion of your business.
    You were hacked by someone who promoted your business for you for almost and entire year by using stolen imagery and answering your client’s questions and helping set up session appointments, while sharing your real work as well.
    You did not take your Facebook page offline because people were sharing this link and pointing out the stolen photos, but Facebook took it down to stop you from being victimized further.
    A little off topic, and somewhat irrelevant: Your business has been registered, and you pay taxes, and are licensed and insured.
    Kelly, tell me then, why are you listed here?
    Photostealers needs to take this posting down immediately! My goodness! What a goof up!

    • Melinda Potter

      SHE’S BEEN HACKED!! By one of the most passive hackers in the history of hacking

  • Melinda Potter

    So you get caught red handed, and decide to take this person you keep talking about down with you. So far you have claimed she harassed you, hacked you, doesn’t run a legal business or pay taxes, collects welfare while receiving under the table income(I might be forgetting something), but you don’t have time to prove any of it.
    Now where exactly does any of this address what you have done? How does this pertain to the subject at hand, which is copyright theft? It is no one’s fault but your own that you got caught using other photographer’s images on your business social media site/sites. You are not the victim here. Leave everyone else out of this and own what you did. Quit lying Kelly. It’s getting you nowhere

    • Kelly Skuta

      I got caught red handed by a liar who is really good at covering her tracks, she is good at that! in more then one way . and there has been plenty of proof on social media of her harassment . and as for all the other stuff I posted absolutely she does all of the above. But that is neither here or there, she is right and I am wrong we have a history it isn’t like she is just some random person I have seen it first hand and know the real person behind it all . It does not matter she won this one .

      • Marc W.

        A liar called out a liar. But you were the one who was outted. This page (and your lies) area out you. If you want to out her please submit proof of what she did and leave her out of this page.

  • I was bored and did some digging into google cache and found thing Ironic tidbit she posted in October…

    • Helena

      Oh my word. Spell checker spell checker SPELL CHECKER!

      • keca

        I don’t think spell check is enough to compensate for a complete lack of education on proper grammar and basic elementary level spelling knowledge.

    • Me, Myself and I
    • Melinda Potter

      It’s ok. Those people in no way tried to claim her photos as their own. They were just inspiration

  • sweetypie101

    Kelly you need to APOLOGIZE. You need to be an adult, stop changing the story. Your sons will suffer from this again because of your actions. You lied. You can take down your business and personal Facebook page BUT, CACHE pages still remain and will always remain, Those cannot be altered. You can say what you want here and on your Facebook page (before you took it down) about other people lying but you know you are in the wrong here. Regardless of a personal issue you have with someone, which you have a lot of personal issues with people, that in itself says something, constantly threatening people on Facebook about your kids, or their bad parenting or peoples morals. That is not an adult’s action. In my opinion, No on hacked your page. All of these photos above and more have their original source and they were all on your page. Everyone saw them. Someone cannot “hack” your page and upload photos and change the dates and then comment on them and change those dates, and then have other people question and comment on said photos and change those dates too, why? because those comments belong to other people! You also stated in several of them they were friends, relatives. So unless a master hacker, hacked all of those peoples profiles too on the same day, your lying. Those were NOT created. Yes, you did take photos yourself, but you stole from others to amp up your business. You should of just stuck to learning and growing your business honestly. IMO, your photos were poor quality with lighting, positioning and choice of aperture and shutter speed in some of them. Mainly your live events were poor. Some turned out okay and a few were decent. Overall poor but you were growing until you stole. You can see the clear difference in those you stole and those you took yourself. For those of you wanting to “defend” you need to do your OWN research. Just type in google; backcoutryphoto and backcoutryphoto/timeline or or http://www.facebook.com/backcoutryphoto and you will see all the cache listings. Choose the drop down arrow for the cache listing, right click to open in new tab, and you can see them all. also you can check here for civil, criminal, landlord etc records. as you will see their are past judgments. https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJ.aspx . These are facts. It is also fact that you have to be registered in the State of PA to operate a business, therefore it is correct to assume you have not paid taxes for two years, even though you didn’t start the Facebook page till later you were still operating a business. I assume by now someone has already reported it to the State via their website. By not claiming a business and not reporting taxes, that healthcare you receive is pretty much free of charge. I would make a public apology, take a step back and rethink the direction you are going in life. Stop making excuses, stop trying to manipulate those who are “trusting” your word without research or those who don’t have the know how, to find it for themselves.

  • Christopher C.

    Since you used stolen photos to make your ads, clearly you DO need those photos to get business. Isn’t that the purpose of advertising?

    You’re a real piece of work.

    • Kelly Skuta

      Christopher You are correct I stand corrected , I took a photo off of pintrest and put it on an add , and the purpose of advertising is to make money and to give others an Idea of what can be available to them. Thanks for the info

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        Just so you understand, Kelly — using images without permission is illegal, regardless of the context. Using them to make money is even more so, and can result in much larger fines. Think how you would feel if someone used one or more of your images without credit or acknowledgement and used them to earn money. Would you like that? Would you think it’s okay? Even if you were to give credit, it still wouldn’t be enough. It is illegal.

        Please, take the time to educate yourself regarding copyright infringement, and don’t use others’ images in any context ever again unless you have express permission from the copyright holder. And yes, you must always assume there is a copyright, because all images are inherently copyrighted the moment the shutter is pressed, and unless it has specifically been placed into the public domain by the copyright holder, or has a Creative Commons license specifically allowing for commercial use. Images on Pinterest or Google Images are not free to use. I don’t get why people think they are, but that is most definitely incorrect.

        As an aside, if you want people to hire you on what you can do as a photographer, then use your own images. To use others’ images is misleading to potential clients, because you did not produce the images they are using to gauge whether they want to hire you. If you don’t a specific image you want to use in an ad, shoot it. Use friends, family, whatever, but use your own images. To do otherwise is not fair to you or potential clients.

      • Marc W.

        Did you forget that you removed your FB page and told us that FB removed it because it was over 12 hours ago? Forgot about that too?

  • FriendlyFace83

    Have any of you, before seeing this page, actually gone on her site and seen the pictures she had posted?

      • FriendlyFace83

        Ok so the link at the bottom of your post works. The google Cache does not work it takes me to my facebook page itself not hers. The bottom link, all those pictures are legit!! I don’t see one of those pics posted above on there, and I have never seen those pictures above posted on her page. Except the Christmas ad which popped up a couple days ago and immediately it was known she was hacked! I think this is a bunch of bull! I think its someone with something against Kelly doing this to her. Just my opinion! But facts are facts and all this doesn’t add up.

        • Some of the images she stole were removed. There was no one doing this to her she did it to herself … we do extensive research before a post and she was not hacked since she was making comments and doing business with those images.

          Its cool, you are her friend/kelly and trying to help her/yourself. Its not the first time someone comes her/their aid pretending to have an opposite opinion.

          http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3JUBZEJe9QkJ:http://www.facebook.com/backcoutryphoto?ref%3Dstream%2Bhttps://www.facebook.com/backcoutryphoto&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&gws_rd=ssl&hl=en&&ct=clnk

          • FriendlyFace83

            You can think what you want but I am not Kelly. Kelly wouldn’t be so nice. Its nice you assume just because someone sticks up for its her pretending. I am a friend of Kelly’s, and I have had pictures taken by Kelly. I visited her Facebook page at least a couple times a week for the last couple weeks due to I am trying to pick the pictures I want to print of my kids and not once did I ever see the pictures above. You are all are being scammed, and Kelly’s reputation is being slammed.

          • Marc W.

            1) many photo thieves come here posting as “someone else” but it’s really them, … but since you haven’t butchered the English language, I’m sure you’re not her.

            2) The Google Cache, screenshots, photos I’ve seen on her FB page before she took it down, and the fact that she admitted putting up “inspirational” photos on her FB page negates that we’re getting scammed and he’s being slammed. She is the one scamming anyone coming to her page therefore, she’s the one who slammed herself.

            BTW, we have no problem with people taking their own photos. We are glad she has customers… as long as they aren’t in result of the stolen photos and aren’t scammed by them.

          • Me, Myself and I

            “Its nice you assume just because someone sticks up for its her pretending.”

            We assume so because 80% of the time that is the case.

            “You are all are being scammed, and Kelly’s reputation is being slammed.”

            If she ever gets REAL proof that she was scammed (conviction of the guilty party or something along those lines) she should let Corey know (the admin of this site) and I’m sure something could be worked out. This site isn’t here to harm legit businesses but to protect our industry.

            Of course … seeing how some of the screen captures above have dates for her comments or posts on the stolen images … Facebook doesn’t allow for retroactive dating of comments or posting of images.

            The images above were posted between December 2013 and the last few days so if you have been checking her site regularly then you weren;t paying close enough attention.

          • Kellys reputation is shit. She did wrong and lied about it … No one cares if she is a good person and that she did work for you. All we care about is the truth and its all here in black and white

          • captain-confuzzled

            I believe that you are not Kelly, you write coherently. Nice that you want to defend her, and if you are a happy customer, that is great! But please check your facts before you defend her photo stealing actions. Kelly’s decisions to use photos illegally was hers, no one held her hand to the keyboard and forced her to post images that weren’t hers and make up names and stories for them. The idea that this was done by a hacker is just absurd. Who would ever take that approach? Post illegally used photos and hope that it is somehow outed here on this site? Yeah, right. Pretty elaborate scheme.

        • Marc W.

          She had this on her FB page, but it’s not her photo:
          https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZivwR5CA_1lkQIoeLQ836F0YP9f2-UCRkjZYldRw-b0-p88jprS2SrAG1sdupY2wKeVmFVJPMotyjwXiSNnvR-QF_1xctQhNuIKDzxupEjUVNEg_1QPS7F4aA-K1J31hKj3T2c7Qof7hmKq8zolbWHSWgbehWxojzkwU49HRGgIGM7NsPkRXCoSd6qrjr2bMRuO1VVtQ5S2Rvo85bAp_1V30mt_1t5plDlmq7xURuuz3Jp2cp4FbjPc6MpeemhVHnKU7rXS1eA2CLRmjbElx5ag37sqI-6INdEtEaxLjFjY9oIEPffvL06-qIQ9NdueVmJSo9Ev5mqcA-v2RjQX-jEEmy7r2kzm9OFygpWOOXLR4P977Jefd2hItOzrD6LD7HwP16b38t-Ta5wyTWQ0eNGqnJYfRN13RWJkQcKIR0f9XjIaX6sXg1SVmnk2lLkkgTd4RrnzsDn9CSLRBz3ABANWuwoZ1aZRyXnHZoK-roZIB8p6Kbx1XjPyBHtS3Wmvyhr-QvJOmcjzXhXmCO2gM7IzZ_180rTOduZYA0YrQ04yxiEZPH72FqwrxR8VqIhuqKYiEvPzVsO21UDTh6Kz0-1e5K7ru0b3RKONop5aEAzhzUuRJDsz5TDJeMjprPNcoi8-y1ofl7htexeZ_1F1JSidm6QDOWugcXvDJM0iakaZhvHQYfRolJRmSIk1nFWUUhZRS-ovx-FqSOnUV-e4TOix2rRizK8zRz8tW1FBFmNMEuaKJx5MieIaXtS9O3dG56UlyH6IwQnLNBurXzOV9DGxuP2dad5UVpvwVbcaOPby-uwQ4iiu8kr9EBvtrcCV_1AUxh1pkXBRHLKXSxtTOU5cGbY9aHsvoDxUhzJTRerRFgPYeCvUECIAPDR1Zg6teqVYXvRrfW2R0CVZza76-g3J6qARstJZoWmBHiWpV4qDTUlLRjkz6wKUEPkSWQBhZDk9S_15VnC0x65OexYUiMTTNrFHSj7FDz_1Z4bbNkoKmrkfbHHTqkjO86Cyr-m7wGxbKUQ80h3qC23K9s4xMlNsExG0MPJ8gzU57bgHUZ-2B39c5VGsCw3tjAhiHWI_1lpHjVmKyAxayZCKgkjZ6B2es4LYFdFsqvTdv09U7y62y8YzNpgiJCczSjQmN2Jf5H0ZI0mGqDYNcqK5o1efkBVdPsGlZVvSvpBnfRj4ojGx8wwrFkyo-HrEcIoOYWrWmI1gZob-qYKWRRwVAY2O5znf7FAmztxDsZmZQercunqTvRwCKy3-VgXC7vMohvfpzgwepR2QY6MX-C6GDpCrZTFxHR5BBSDEoCbqnIOA1vygxd9CeY8rnEqa8Ujg9PgWJ-SUTejdXmDwWJ2IsAIBXlFU1Y6JVv75eLdzxweo6qjINfdvVt3UyqHBb0U5A-JVJmhnDndnhOShhJ_1LijeVLB_1HG_1wa3-HbPE2qErmojLk-gUAb7rc5kpzR8x0BZLWmsFKYoRDpfT5loxjmqMWLSIEZ3kpSGhj0ZGs8_1II5HQ&safe=active

          • Marc W.

            .attachment.

            Please ignore the first image. wrong attachment.

          • Me, Myself and I

            That right there … huge red flag.
            Groupon DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR A PHOTOGRAPHER!

            Your profit margin would have to be something like 80% profit to just break even with Groupon. Who the hell has 80% profit margins?

          • Just a Girl

            Wouldn’t that be ironic if she had stole from a thief who had been outted on here in the past!

        • Me, Myself and I

          She outed herself several times on this very page and in emails/messages sent to Corey (the owner of this website).

          “The imformation is incorrect simply becausr no where did i sate a fact that any photos found on my page were all mine some of the photos i used from pintrest were ideas and photos i liked on my pintrest.”

          Right there, in her own garbled words, is an admission of guilt. She posted pictures, not her own without permission on her business page. Not “claiming” they were hers doesn’t change the fact that she violated the original photographers rights under US and international copyright laws.

          Exclusive rights in copyrighted works
          (source: http://copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html )

          Subject to sections 107 through 122, the owner of copyright under this title has the exclusive rights to do and to authorize any of the following:

          (1) to reproduce the copyrighted work in copies or phonorecords;

          (2) to prepare derivative works based upon the copyrighted work;

          (3) to distribute copies or phonorecords of the copyrighted work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership, or by rental, lease, or lending;

          (4) (… not relevant to photography … )

          (5) in the case of literary, musical, dramatic, and choreographic works, pantomimes, and pictorial, graphic, or sculptural works, including the individual images of a motion picture or other audiovisual work, to display the copyrighted work publicly; and

          (6) (… not relevant to photography … )

          There are exemption called Fair Use Exemptions.
          (source: http://copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html )

          Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.

          “inspiration” isn’t on that list.

          Did her use fall under the purview of:
          Criticism? Nope.
          No criticism was provided.

          Comment? Nope.

          No comment was made on the pictures.

          News Reporting? Nope.
          No need to elaborate.

          Teaching? Nope.
          No need to elaborate.

          Scholarship? Nope.
          Wasn;t part of a paper or disertation or analysis …

          Research? Nope.
          No need to elaborate.

          So yeah …violation of copyright.

          But beyond that violation of copyright is potential fraud. Most states have FALSE ADVERTISING laws in place to prevent fraudulent advertising used to trick consumers.

          Let’s use an example.

          you pass in front of a bakery and see a beautifully decorated wedding cake in the window. You go in and order a wedding cake from that bakery for your own wedding.

          What you didn’t know was that the bakery had gone to ANOTHER BAKERY and bought one of THEIR cakes to use in their display case.

          Now let’s say your cake isn’t up to the same quality as the one you had seen in the display … would “Oh! that? That wasn’t my work. I never claimed it was. It was just there for inspiration!” be acceptable to you?

          • Marc W.

            “What you didn’t know was that the bakery had gone to ANOTHER BAKERY and bought one of THEIR cakes to use in their display case.”

            You mean, they stole the other cake. 🙂

          • Me, Myself and I

            no, no … my example with the cake was just in terms of false advertising / fraud.

            For our purposes there, even if she bought the images from a microstock site (bought the cake), it would still be false advertising.

          • Marc W.

            True, I was just playing.

          • Me, Myself and I

            I know but considering Kelly’s grasp of copyright and the law (or lack thereof) I just wanted to specify. 🙂

        • Me, Myself and I

          DELETED … mistaken information.

        • Helena

          She was hacked in December 2013 when she posted a picture of a family and made up a story about them? What kind of hacker goes into someone’s page and uploads other people’s photos? The imaginary kind.

          I agree, this is bullshit. The denial, the changes in story etc are pretty standard procedure for people who get caught, and you’re right, facts are facts, and Kelly Skuta of Back Country Photography in New Castle, PA got caught stealing photos.

          • From Dec 2013 to Nov 2014 over a year and some how by some devine intervention se never realized ….and made comments under the hackers posts.
            <—scratches head

            Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

          • Helena

            These pesky hackers are in it for the long haul.

          • ALP

            Especially when there is no profit or gain to be had!

        • sweetypie101

          Actually you just don’t understand how cache page works and are not clicking on it correctly Kelly. You must right click on the drop down arrow and open in new tab. I have seen all the photos. Your facts, you have not presented any facts, so yours are incorrect and lies.

    • Hi Kelly, Husband or Friend
      Postal code 16105/16101

    • Photo Stealers

      Yes, since that’s how I retrieved the evidence you see above.

  • PSA: Hi Kelly, Husband or Friend
    Postal code 16105/16101

  • Me, Myself and I

    Your posts ARE getting posted.

    Posts are now moderated because a couple of past theives went all crazy here once creating fake accounts with the same name as regular contributors and posting hate speech and racist comments.

    It takes a fair bit for a post to be refused or pulled here.

  • That is fine …but here is the irony. When you talk about stealing and common decency and a bussinees person but they steal the images of others I have to ask “What the F#$K”

  • Its the usual lie…

  • Marc W.

    Kelly, you spelled “Anonymous” wrong.

    • Helena

      🙂

    • Justin Case

      I think I just peed my pants. It just gets better and better, doesn’t it Marc?

  • Me, Myself and I

    Usual lie …
    ex-partner, consultant, webmaster, web designer, intern, nameless employee, hacker, communications officer/company, social media management service …

    It’s never them … always someone else, even if that someone else never existed. Some people have even gone and invented themselves a Tyler Durden (2 points if you get the reference).

  • Celine (peaceetc)

    Unless you use a confirmed account, each post you make has to be manually approved, and that can take time. We aren’t censoring you.

  • seattlesoundlive

    I’m not sure what’s worse. The inability to formulate an original thought or the complete and total lack of integrity here. As a photographer you are in a very unique and intimate position. Clients invite you in to be a part of and document that moment of their lives based on photographic prowess, originality and trust. I work with some of the biggest names in music and they know what they are getting and trust they will be portrayed in the best possible light.. Stealing and promoting others thoughts as your own is irresponsible. BTW.. I visited the cached links to the offenders site and I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit. Here is a pro tip: learn lighting and composition rules, formulate original thoughts and storyboard them, use friends and family to perfect your “skills” and then think really hard before you even consider charging anyone..

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      I don’t think she’s interested in improving her skills. I think she’s far more interested in playing the blame game, and doing her best to avoid responsibility for her actions. If she’d put that effort into actually improving her skills, she might actually be able to make a go of it without cheating and lying.

      She’s tried to excuse her actions by saying she was hacked, *and* that she posted others’ photos she found on Pinterest as inspiration. In her mind, that apparently makes it okay, but we all know that’s still copyright infringement, which is still illegal. Inspiration is not good enough.

      I understand the desire for her friend to defend her. I appreciate the effort, but I don’t think ‘friendlyface83’ truly understands the issues at hand. Truthfully, I don’t think Kelly truly understands it, either. But she needs to face up to reality, because it’s presently slapping her square in the face.

      • Me, Myself and I

        ” I don’t think ‘friendlyface83’ truly understands the issues at hand. Truthfully, I don’t think Kelly truly understands it, either.”

        Kelley’s friend, I can understand but Kelley started a BUSINESS she should have done a bit of homework and read up on the laws surrounding her industry! You don’t need to be a lawyer but at least having passing knowledge of:

        copyright law,
        What is copyright, how does it protect me and my business, how does it affect my clients …

        contract law,
        what can I put in a contract for my state and what can’t I?

        business laws/rules,
        Do I need to register my business name? Do I need to collect and remit sales taxes? What documentation do I need to collect and keep and for how long? Does my liability insurance cover me or do I need professional liability? How can I advertise and what are the rules in regards to advertising? …

        tax laws and rules ..
        What taxes do I need to collect? How do I remit them? how often? What forms do I need to fill out and how often …

        So on so forth …

        So many people think all you need to do to start a photography business is buy an entry level DSLR with a kit lens and you are set. Open a Facebook page and the money will start rolling in …

        when you see a “photographer” offering to shoot a 10 hour wedding for 300$ with prints or posting a Groupon ad, you know you have a newb who just picked up a camera … they don’t have the experience to understand that a 10 hour wedding is like 32-35 hours of work or that there are hard costs and business costs to take into consideration. That lack of experience of course isn’t limited to the business side of things … it also translates into a lack of experience shooting.

        • Celine (peaceetc)

          Don’t get me wrong — I am in no way excusing her behavior. As a business owner, it is her responsibility to make herself knowledgeable about this stuff. Instead, she has chosen to bury her head in the sand, to make excuses, and apparently outright lie in order to get out of a mess of her own making. Her lack of understanding is entirely of her own making.

      • Melinda Potter

        It’s really a shame she can’t even be straight with her friend. They are obviously someone who cares for her a lot. I can’t even imagine how it would feel to not be honest with the people who love me.

        • Photo Stealers

          One of her friends on Facebook kept insisting that I had a picture featured here that was of her daughter that she watched Kelly take. No matter how many times and ways I explained that image was never on this site, she wouldn’t believe me because that’s what Kelly told her happened. Some people just blindly defend.

          • Melinda Potter

            Wow :/

          • nikkijean003

            Some people are just dumber than stones 😉

  • captain-confuzzled

    Lindsey, curious to know what your read on the whole thing is, since she is trying to blame you.

    • HOW DARE YOU!

      Lol! I don’t know? Jealousy?

  • As much as I would rather a outed thief to come clean and admit wrong and move on… I do find those who lie very entertaining.

    • Kelly Skuta

      I am sure you do . I am glad. let this liar give you one word of advise , do not always believe what people tell you , being someone who stole photos or someone reporting some one they say did. People are not always what they seem and sometimes that are ust really good at hiding there tracks.

      • Photo Stealers

        I don’t – this is why I do my own research to see if there is truth to the claim and if there’s enough images to warrant a post here.

      • Factitious_Detector

        No… most thieves that steal images on line really aren’t that good at hiding. In fact, they mostly suck at it, because it also tends to come with a delusional personality, and every once in a while a good case of munchausen and the like. They know they are thieves, but the need to be perceived as someone other than what they are (typically a no one) is stronger than the knowledge of the repercussions of being caught, OR they care more about feeding the delusion than they do the consequences.

        Like Tasha/Aries for example:

        http://stopstealingphotos.com/charming-photos-aka-aries-photography-cross-lanes-wv/

  • keca

    And?

  • Me, Myself and I

    I hate siding with a thief but the client/parent was TECHNICALLY violating the photographers copyright … a public post like that was probably not the best way to deal with it but IN THIS ONE INSTANCE … urgh … Kelly was correct.

    I feel dirty for saying that.

    • Marc W.

      You are right. Copyright is very important! The irony is that she just doesn’t care about OTHER PEOPLE’S copyright.

    • O i know she was correct in this instance it just goes to show she understood copyright infringement at some basic level. Yet steals the work of others

  • Marc W.

    If you didn’t take other people’s photos and post them as your own on your FB page, he’d really have nothing to do! He appreciates you doing that. He was getting really bored.

    • Kelly Skuta

      I am glad he appreciates it , which one of you loves in Cleveland?

      • Marc W.

        Not I. Maybe it was someone who you stole from!

      • Photo Stealers

        Nor I. Nice try to frame me though but my area code isn’t 216.

        • U Really That Dumb?

          I loved in Cleveland once but it was probably 30 years ago. Does that count?

          • Me, Myself and I

            What was his/her/it’s name?

      • U Really That Dumb?

        Based on the threads all over FB about you, I would say you have way more enemies in your area than you do on this page. The likelihood that it’s one if them is much greater than it being someone from here.
        Ever heard of Occam’s Razor?
        My question to you is why aren’t you blocking the number? That would be the logical thing to do. After that call the cops. But when you do please explain to them that the reason you are paranoid is because you stole images, lied, and committed fraud. Oh, and perhaps tax evasion and other illegal acts as they related to businesses in PA.

      • You can’t fix stupid

        And you just assume that we all live in the US LOL

        • Helena

          Yeah I gave a hint the other day when I was in bed during US daylight hours.

      • Helena

        I don’t live in the US, let alone Cleveland. Do you know how many people say they’ve received calls and blamed it on this group? Almost all of them. We almost all agree that contacting people outed anywhere but on this page is beyond our remit, so forgive me my scepticism about you getting any harrassment.

  • HOW DARE YOU!

    Why the hell does she keep saying my name lol???is it BC she knows i know she’s stolen even more then just pictures? Like fundraiser money?? Cmon girl your a waste. I didn’t start this bull crap. Second I found out from another photog about your photo stealing. Leave my name out of your lying ass mouth. And again you were never a business partner of mine. I’m Still laughing at that lie.

  • Factitious_Detector

    It’s actually not that hard to track FAKERS down and bust them. Very few people are aware what kind of foot print they leave behind, and even fewer know how to properly track down that data. So you don’t need “a lot of time on your hands” to do this…. especially since most FRAUDS have a history of being FRAUDS over and over again.

    When you can’t be a decent human being, and decide to do bad things to other people, defraud, lie, cheat, steal…… that tends to NOT go away.

  • ALP

    I love how often people accuse Joseph (and the rest of us) of having too much time on his hands. Because if he was **really** busy, he just wouldn’t care about stopping fraud and theft in his industry. Blah. Blah. Blah. We’ve heard it all before Kelly. Seriously. If you can’t come up with some new, really awesome crazy, just don’t bother.

    • Factitious_Detector

      You know what gives you a lot of time on your hands? Being a fraud. Because people who know what hard work is have already done it for you!

    • Kelly Skuta

      ALP I am going to use your space to post a comment , since I can’t seem to anywhere else , Sorry . The meaning of my comment was that it seems odd that all of you spend all this time on this site posting comments funny pictures and videos, you make fun of people making inaccurate ignorant remarks about everyone. I thought in most instances that people would not have time to do so because they work. I am sure you all have heard it before , You all are perfect !! you all have never made mistakes you all have never ever done anything wrong? The people you all attack most I am sure are legit , and that is great you are trying to stop this . the fact that all of you degrade and put down with smartass childish comments and pictures does not represent you all as a group very well. I am completely aware that my opinion does not matter , but the fact that every single time you all take one persons word over another , you don’t know them you know a name and what they tell you . You do not know there ability or there real personality you know nothing but what someone says. Calling someone out on something they did wrong is ok , maybe stop being malicious and ignorant and teach the public what the laws are! As for Joseph he is very good at this that was not a Joke , But to google someone’s locations? that’s kind of weird to post someone location to prove it isn’t a different person making the comment . the two zip codes posted covers a very large area you can be at one and the other person be 40 miles away and have the same zip code so that proves nothing other then that someone commented from the same city , they actually could not believe the childish behavior you all showed. As for any photos on my page someone made the statement that I should have checked my site I should have known , ABSOLUTLEY!!! you are so correct that is my fault. I also should have familiarized my self with all of the laws as well , not that I did not know about any of it I did. I did not post all of those photos , I will admit to the pintrest one on the add , I did use that simply because It looked like what I was using not to intentionally hurt anyone. I have since contacted the poster of the photo and apologized to them . As for Lindsey story . Lindsey Dover which ever name she is using, You have no idea the history we have , you have no idea of who she really is, I could spend hours telling you it all , but really is it worth it? NO it isn’t because she is just as good of a liar as the next person and unfortunately she removed all of her photos that she in fact stole from children’s boutique magazines that her niece posed for . A lot of us were not aware of sites like this one , or maybe she would have been here as well . See if I go on and on it simply makes me look just as bad as she does.
      Corey told me on Facebook that Lindsey was not involved in this, the screen shots came from her phone and she was on this site commenting , No need to lie about it I already new, see this isn’t the first time she has done stuff like this to some one, and I’m sure it wont be the last . Me being Illiterate , NO I AM NOT uneducated , I am not stupid or retarded , I simply was using a phone that had no spell check and the key touch screen was not working properly , so I’m glad you like to make fun of those who maybe Illiterate that’s mighty mature of you all. I am a waste? yes Lindsey Story dover soon to be stoops maybe to you I am , maybe to your drunk ass bar crowd I am , maybe to your messed up family I am , But one thing you need to remember is you are no better then anyone else. you have lots of dirty laundry you are just better at hiding it. I guess the best way to end this is this , I have learned from you all that the world is a harsh judgmental place were there are actually groups of folks out there to do what is right but in the wrong way. I have learned to always be cautious of who you have in your life and who you trust . I have also learned that some people are better then others at covering there bullshit up . I apologize to anyone I have offended or pisssed off for that I will take full responsibility. who ever the person is from Cleveland that keeps calling me from area code 216 It would be great if you stopped calling me and swearing on my voicemail . (it is a guy ) and I know that’s not true either none of you would do that!! That is all I have to say , I was honest in my statement I have no more to prove to any of you , my business is not up and running , and since I have no talent and I am just some one who picked up a camera one day that’s probably a good thing. thanks for the important information you have provided me and thank you for doing what you all do so well.

      • Marc W.

        Wait, NOW you’re admitting you made a mistake and we’re suppose to just ignore the BS you claimed before about being hacked to us and your FB friends?

        1) posting someone’s elses photos is NOT a mistake. Deleting an email by mistakes is a mistake. You deliberately posted someone’s elses work!

        2) we don’t care what people you hang out with. We don’t care their character. We only care about the thief and that is you. You are a liar and a fraud. Sorry if that’s tough to hear. (Not sorry. )

        Edit: if you want any redemption, post an apology on your personal FB page that you stole and you are sorry. If you don’t, you’re pretty much hiding in your little fraud world.

        • Photo Stealers

          If I follow this correctly she is stating the ad images were from Pinterest but the other images Lindsey snuck into her portfolio.

          • HOW DARE YOU!

            How do I sneak in someone’s port? Ummm I’ve had you blocked for over a year lol!!!!

      • captain-confuzzled

        can we have a bingo square for ‘indignant angel wrongfully accused”? or more clearly said “whine, whine, whine”. Kelly, you brought LIndsey into the conversation. What Corey said was that Lindsey did not provide the info or evidence that resulted in you ending up on this site, and thus not involved in the post revealing you as a photo stealer.. That Lindsey responded once you accused her is between you two and frankly not really relevant to anything here, although you keep insisting it is. We don’t go any deeper than, ‘you stole photos and lied about it’. The rest is just smokescreen and petty behavior on your part. I don’t really give a crap about the New Castle Soap Operas.

      • Me, Myself and I

        “it seems odd that all of you spend all this time on this site posting comments funny pictures and videos, you make fun of people making inaccurate ignorant remarks about everyone. I thought in most instances that people would not have time to do so because they work.”

        We spend some of our precious time here because unlike other creative fields affected by massive copyright infringement, we don’t have litigious billion dollar lobbying groups to defend our interests.

        Steal a movie and the mpaa will sick it’s attack dogs on you so fast your head will spin or spend millions lobying the goverment to have copyright laws changed.

        Paint some Disney characters on your daycare and Disney will have an private detective over there taking pictures to determine if they should sue you into oblivion the second they find out.

        http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1989-04-27/news/8904070716_1_walt-disney-productions-cartoon-characters-disney-representatives

        Steal some music and the RIAA will have you fined four ways to Sunday or will get in with the MAPP and have laws changed.

        What do Photographers have? Not much. There are a couple of larger photography associations but none of them have the power or clout of the MPAA or RIAA, are specific to certain industries (journalism, wedding …) and not all of us are members of these organisations and their mandate isn’t the same … it’s more photographer services (insurance, education …) than lobbying and defence.

        Maybe what we do is small in the grand scheme of things but it is something. Every thief we take out helps the industry just a little,

        I’m willing to take a bit of my limited time from working a full time job, running a business and raising a 3 year old daughter to help the industry I work in i’s a far better use of my time than sitting in front of the TV.

        • Me, Myself and I

          Also, we inject a bit of humor in what we do here because otherwise things would get very nasty very quickly. There is also a measure of fatigue … e hear all the same shit over and over again …

          I didn’t do it, my web master did it.
          It was fair use, I didn’t ever say they were mine.
          You are all just jealous.
          My big time entertainment lawyer will go after you.
          I’m a good church going person, why can;t you forget about this?

          … so on so forth … after a while you either start laughing or get angry … very angry. thankfully we started laughing instead.

      • Photo Stealers

        The screen shots on this post are from me. You can plainly see in the attached image that Lindsey’s image is in the comments, mine is in the comment section. So, try a different lie. It wasn’t Lindsey that submitted you. It was someone else.

        I don’t give a shit about dirty laundry. I DO give a shit about photographers using other photographers work in their portfolio.

      • HOW DARE YOU!

        Say what??? My images of my niece on children’s magazines were indeed photos I that i took hahahaha!!!! Don’t hate! My daughter and step daughter as well! So try again!!

      • HOW DARE YOU!

        Also. I’m so posting this screen shot. Everyone will get a kick out of this. And they weren’t deleted off my page. I deleted my old fb. During my separation and now have a new page BC I lost everything i had on my page. and please enlighten me, what past do we have? U helped look for Chris..got Ariel a home…hahaha that was a joke all in itself.keep digging kelly- you may end up in China.

        • Marc W.

          Where’s this screenshot?

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Kelly,
    Let me give you a little piece of advice. SHUT UP! You are digging a hole you can’t get out of.

    As for the BS about the phone. Go learn a little about IP and MAC addresses.

    Unfortunately for you, YOU are the one that got caught. YOU are the one that is looking at fraud charges as well as possibly hundreds of thousands in fines related to image theft.

  • Marc W.

    You forgot that you stole someone’s elses photo and posted on your FB page so you claimed a hacker did it? HA!

  • Marc W.

    “I’m a people person! Why can’t you people understand that! I good with people!”

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Hi Kelly!

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Or one of her family members that’s in total denial about the fact that she could possibly loose everything and even, depending on local laws and prosecutors, spend time behind bars.

      • Guest

        This actually isn’t Kelly. She did however take pictures for me. If she is going to “spend time behind bars” then don’t you think she’s already being punished enough? I’m just assuming that most of the people commenting are adults and they should act like it. People freak out when their kids are bullied, yet sit in front of a computer as an adult and do the same thing. You guys outed her. Congratulations. The photography world is saved.

        • Hi Kelly’s friend, this is not an crime that would usally get a person behind bars.
          Her punishment will never end until she stops lying a poking tje beehive.
          The history of this site is when a outed thief comes clean we generally leave them alone. Your friend has yet to figure that out. Here is the thing her son found out and at first he was defending his mom as any god son would till someone sent him the link. Here is what happen ….this inteligent young man aknowleged his mom did wrong and seemed confused on how to deal with it.
          Even her son saw the evedince and can agree with it an you as an adult cannot.
          Such a shame… Talk to her she needa to do the right thing and be a good role model.

          • Factitious_Detector

            My heart goes out to that poor kid, I hope he’s on the path do being a much better, and far more decent human being than the person that is SUPPOSED to be modeling sane, law-abiding, and good behavior for him. Unbelievable.

        • Helena

          Yeah, we are adults. Adults who were taught how to spell, use grammar and not steal things that belong to others!

  • nikkijean003

    So let me get this straight, Kelly.
    First your account was hacked and those darn hackers, well that’s just preposterous! Then it was your ex business partner Lindsey, I’m so glad anyone who talks photography to you is a business partner – I met and took a pic with Taylor Swift that must make us BFFs!
    Then you think it’s all a personal attack and Corey manipulated your post to look like you stole photos – OMG how dare they target a sweet con artist like yourself!
    Now I think it’s still fixated on “inspiration,” a classic. That’s fine if you go into Pinterest and have an inspiration board, it shows a lack of originality, but damn you had none to begin with. But wait, that’s still incorrect, you removed their watermarks & made up fictitious names and their “location” so that also knocks out the “I never said it was my work” have you been talking to Josh Lawrence, that was his excuse too!
    And somewhere in the mix of your obsession of Lindsey, you forgot to take them down, it was so long ago. You began your “business” after May 2013, this is fact! So it wasn’t “that long ago” Oh and your most recent offense was 12 hours before the blog going live. I’m so glad you have the attention span of a dog whose owner leaves for 5 minutes and he thinks he’s been gone for months!
    Folks, am I missing anything? I think my bingo card is getting pretty full & my senses are tingling

    Oh, BTW Kelly, I strongly suggest that you keep Lindsey’s name outta your mouth! When you piss off a few people in a small town like New Castle, a town where everyone knows everyone, it only makes you look worse, and tangles you even more in the litigation web you have spun for yourself!

    xo Nikki Smith

    PS I submitted your Christmas marketing to Corey! It was too simple, type in “family christmas photos joy” in the Pinterest search, BOOM, and I knew it wasn’t yours because your real work sucks.

  • Melinda Potter

    Things have gotten a little heated, and I’m really glad I don’t live in New Castle right about now.
    This is my attempt at trying to get a little tolerance and understanding into the mix. In no way am I trying to excuse Kelly of Back Country Photography PA’s behavior, but I want to try help somehow.
    I think Kelly’s denial and finger pointing stems more from her lack of desire to give up the fantasy that she has created for herself. She’s obviously unprofitable other than a few bucks here and there under the table. She’s not in this to create beautiful photographs for people, make an honest living with her camera, or learn the craft, but more to build her persona and ego/confidence and garner attention. Well… At least this is obvious to people with a little knowledge on how this business and photography works. Maybe not so obvious to others.
    She hasn’t been pretending to be in business very long, but still long enough that it’s become somewhat a comfortable habit for her. We regulars at photostealers have seen this quite often. They pretend and play so hard, that it somehow becomes real to them, and they kick and scream at everyone who sees that things aren’t what the outed thief have been trying to portray to everyone, but only just an elaborate lie. They just aren’t ready to give it up. In their eyes they worked hard to create their “business” and I think even some grow attached to some of the images they stole as well. “No! They can’t take them! They’re mine!”.
    Yes, yes! I know that real legitimate photographers work much harder both creatively and in business. We also know that what Kelly has done, is the lowest thing any photographer can do, but Kelly doesn’t completely understand this, and neither do her friends and family. Fauxtography is a complicated emotional thing. I think we have to keep this in mind no matter how frustrating we find it to be.
    To the people who care for Kelly,
    PLEASE help her to understand that what she has been doing is the wrong way to go about things, and encourage her to learn the right way to go about getting what she desires. Maybe photography isn’t her thing? Maybe helping her find her niche is the better thing to do for her? If photography is her thing and she’s determined to keep going, then encourage her to only use her own creative work, purchase a book or two for her, maybe an online class of some sort, or support her while she takes a few business courses. But, don’t stand up for her on this issue. This will NOT benefit her in any way, and only be detrimental to her. This too shall pass, but not if it isn’t addressed appropriately. She needs the people who care about her, to care enough to be honest with her. Even if she is unable to be honest with you or herself right now.

    • GlennMcQuaig

      Well written, Melinda.

    • Photo Stealers

      Maybe she should go back to real estate… 😉

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      Thank you, Melinda. Your voice was definitely needed here. I hope it helps.

  • keca

    Not everyone can see that, since Kelly herself is in full denial that she 1) stole the photos and 2) used them to commit fraudulent advertising which hurts potential clients AND legitimately good photogs in her area.

    No one is “bashing” her. Collectively, we are attempting to pierce her veil of denial in hopes that she will 1) publicly apologize to her clients AND the photographers she stole from and 2) not attempt to use work that doesn’t belong to her ever again in order to cheat her way into business.

  • Melinda Potter

    The amount of comments under a posting is directly affected by the behavior of the fauxtographer being outed. We have some posts with only a handful of comments, and some that have been removed due to the theif taking care of business properly and behaving in a professional manner. Kelly chose to not be honest, and instead behaved very badly. She did not handle herself very well at all. We wouldn’t have anyone to argue with or try to explain things to, if there was no one here acting like a fool to argue with or try to talk sense into. On that note, I’m glad you see that she did indeed do the deed that this listing was saying she did. Now go try to convince Kelly to own up to it, and quit with the denial, misdirected blame, and all the silliness that she has brought to the table

  • Marc W.

    You should tell her to stop denying it for 3 days and apologize publicly to her FB friends.

  • Melinda Potter

    Awww family wanted pictures of the wedding, what’s the big deal? What got you so angry that you felt you needed to address the issue and clarify things? It’s not like they took your photos renamed the subjects and locations, and used them to market their new photography business. Now that would be… Oh wait a minute… I forgot, you’re ok with that. Just don’t get them printed at walmart? Or… Oh! It’s only YOUR copyright that concerns you. I get now. Sorry I was a bit slow there. Carry on

  • jimfanatic

    Today when I woke up , I saw another post about this on Facebook and truthfully I am sick of seeing it! I totally agree that no one should steal photos , no one should steal anything . I think It is great that you all are working for something you all feel passionate about . Do you think all the other comments and posts about any other aspect of her life is appropriate? What does any of those comments have to do with the problem you all are working towards? Nothing!!! I am a long time resident of New Castle , I have known Kelly for many years , personally and professionally. Do you not like her work? That is fine , maybe someone does not like your work either. I suppose none of you started at the bottom ? you all jumped up and boom were master Photographers!! I think not. Maybe she needs guidance , maybe she needs someone to show her the ropes ? Don’t get me wrong I totally agree it was her job to know the rules and the in’s and out. But in no way should you all degrade her or anyone else for that matter .Lets say you know you can’t drink and drive but you do and you get pulled over, dose the police department degrade you ? bash your name all over the place? Nope they don’t they deal with it internally and try to solve the issue. Maybe just maybe you all should consider that. I was surprised to see her site on here to be completely honest , I have seen her out and about I have been with her while she worked at other locations and when she photographed my family and honestly I loved it so did a lot of others. After seeing the post today , I went and looked at her page and she apologized for a lot of things as well as misleading anyone. I do believe in Knowing what I know about Kelly , she did not intentionally hurt anyone and didn’t hurt her first . I tried to attach a screen shot of her apology I see someone said she should but the little icon below wont let me. Melinda Potter , although you messages come across loud and clear you have a much better way of handling it. I see lots of stuff on here as well about HOW DARE YOU , Lindsey , I don’t know her I don’t want to know her, But I have heard ALOT. She does have some great work and seems great with the air brushing . so props to her for that . Thanks for you time and letting me put my thoughts not that it really means anything .
    James
    PS. FOR THE RECORD
    I am a friend of Kelly’s I am not her or her mother, father , sister , brother , just a friend supporting a friend. and yes my location will show up 16101 or 16105 we all live in the same general location!! and I do in fact have Comcast!

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Seriously, before you come here you should seriously know what you’re talking about. Learn the laws. Learn how the web works. SMH

      • Helena

        Maybe I’m not a noob about IP because I have a computing qualification and studied networking etc, but I’m still astounded that so many people have no knowledge of IP addresses at all.

        For reference: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4

        • Me, Myself and I

          Look, I used to do tech support (I was a roaming tech for a large company of Long Term Care homes … I did tech for 40 LTC homes).

          Here is a call I got. I was driving between offices.

          RECEPTIONIST: My internet is down.
          ME: Ok, is it just you or is it all the computers in the office?
          RECEPTIONIST: I don;t know, everyone else is busy dealing with an emergency.
          ME: Ok, we’ll run through some quick checks.

          *I get her to do a ipconfig only to see she wasn;t getting an IP address from the DHCP server (A linksys router)*

          ME: Ok so go into this room and look for a blue and grey box … someone might have disconnected it to pass the vacuum or something.
          RECEPTIONIST: It’s plugged in but there are no lights on it … we have a power outage in the area … you think that might have anything to do with it?

          *MUTE: SCREEM OF RAGE*

          Her computer was plugged into a emergency power outlet (it’s a LTC home, so half the power outlets … the red ones … go to a generator) so her computer was on …

          No concept of how ANYTHING works.

          • Helena

            Hahaha. We had a series of network based programs, and good old BT accidentally cut our line. Cue lots of people wondering why they couldn’t access the program for work (and an afternoon of doing everything on paper, which sucked!)

          • captain-confuzzled

            okay, I’ll resist going down the IT horror story road, but will share the most recent. 😉 It seems ATT just decided that we didn’t need our Internet connection at the office any more and disconnected it without notice. Took them two weeks to get the thing re-connected, after we explained to them, that, yes, really, the connection is completely down and no, really, we didn’t change anything, followed by their ‘oh, guess we disconnected it”. *sigh* LOTS of very unhappy people in the office, as ATT went along their merry way.

          • jimfanatic

            Can i ask why you feel the average guy shoukd no this? Shit i barley text if I dont have to

          • Me, Myself and I

            No … I don;t expect people to know this. What I do expect is basic critical thinking skills.

            Internet down + major power failure? Maybe I should mention that to the IT guy at the start instead of making him trouble shoot for 20 minutes on the phone while he is driving (I had a bluetooth device).

            When I say Major, I mean 1/3 of Montreal was without power.

          • captain-confuzzled

            Oh hilarious! Thanks for the Friday afternoon laugh. Have soooo been there and done that! (the mute scream of rage part – LOL) Have been in IT for years. I thought you were going to say “oh, I see the blue and gray box, how do I know if that is the right one?” or “how big is the box supposed to be? should it have cables attached? What color blue?” “Is it safe to touch? Will it zap me?”, “It has two green lights, one kinda other color light and one is flashing – does that mean anything?” (okay, sad attempts at humor, it has been a long week around here)

          • ALP

            Priceless 🙂

    • U Really That Dumb?

      BTW: HI KELLY!

    • HOW DARE YOU!

      Still don’t know why she brought me into it. Keep talking Kelly your making me famous 😛

    • Marc W.

      “After seeing the post today , I went and looked at her page and she apologized for a lot of things as well as misleading anyone. ….. I tried to attach a screen shot of her apology I see someone said she should but the little icon below wont let me.”

      If that’s the case, why don’t you… I mean, tell Kelly to open up her Facebook profile so everyone can see this apology?

      • You can’t fix stupid

        There is NO PUBLIC apology!

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      You posted this from the same IP address as Kelly. At the very least, you are on the same wifi network as her, if indeed you aren’t Kelly herself. That’s not just being on Comcast, you have the very same IP address, which only happens if you are using the same wifi.

      Regardless, most of the time, before someone is outed on here people have tried to deal with it privately. It rarely works. Please understand we have seen and heard it all around here. We know what we are doing. And Photo Stealers does their research before they post.

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        Just in case someone wants proof (attachment).

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Wait, Kelly said she was posting from her cell phone. So YOU must be using her phone! LOL

    • Helena

      “Do you think all the other comments and posts about any other aspect of her life is appropriate? What does any of those comments have to do with the problem you all are working towards? Nothing!!!”

      Generally, people outed here have a long history of shady activity that comes out in the wash at the same time. Unfortunate, but if you don’t want your dirty laundry on the internet, the best thing to do is avoid any shady activity.

      “Do you not like her work? That is fine , maybe someone does not like your work either. I suppose none of you started at the bottom ? you all jumped up and boom were master Photographers!! I think not.”

      I fully admit that I am far from a master photographer. I make lots of mistakes. I can see fault in every single photograph I take, even when friends are telling me they’re wonderful. Bleurgh. I am sure other people don’t like my photos either. Oh well. I’m learning all the time. One thing I never had to learn was that displaying other peoples work as my own is wrong. I would feel immense shame and guilt taking any credit for someone else’s work.

      “Lets say you know you can’t drink and drive but you do and you get pulled over, dose the police department degrade you ? bash your name all over the place?”

      Where I live they put your name in the local paper when you get caught drink driving, and you’ll more than likely spend time locked up in a 6×8 cell. Then you get banned from driving, so everyone who knows you will realise something has happened when you’re suddenly taking public transport. It’s hardly a private matter. That said, I’m not likely to ever be caught drink driving.

      I hope this answers your questions Kelly.

      • Me, Myself and I

        Convictions are also a matter of public record.

        • Helena

          They are here yes, and you have to declare them to employers. In some cases, where you need a driving licence for work, it’s grounds for dismissal.

          • Melinda Potter

            I’d much rather get caught infringing thank you. Not that I plan on doing either crime.

    • Me, Myself and I

      “Do you think all the other comments and posts about any other aspect of her life is appropriate? What does any of those comments have to do with the problem you all are working towards? Nothing!!!”

      It establishes a pattern of lies and deceit. With some thieves we’ve found dozens of fly by night businesses working on the same morally corrupt underpinnings.

      “I am a long time resident of New Castle , I have known Kelly for many years , personally and professionally”

      I should hope so considering you are posting from the same IP address she is … so from the same computer/phone or house.

      “Do you not like her work?”
      Has nothing to do with her work only her violation of copyright.

      “maybe someone does not like your work either. I suppose none of you started at the bottom ? you all jumped up and boom were master Photographers!!”

      Oh no … my work when I started was garbage … pure garbage … of course I didn’t start a business until my skills had improved and I NEVER USED OTHER PHOTOGRAPHERS WORK TO PAD UP MY PORTFOLIO! You know, the main thing we are trying to focus on here. :/

      “Maybe she needs guidance , maybe she needs someone to show her the ropes ?”

      Then she shouldn’t be in business. She should be working as an assistant or second shooter for an established photographer.

      “Lets say you know you can’t drink and drive but you do and you get pulled over, dose the police department degrade you ? bash your name all over the place?”

      YES THEY DO!
      http://www.citynews.ca/2013/12/09/durham-police-hope-public-shaming-will-deter-drunk-driving/

      “Nope they don’t they deal with it internally and try to solve the issue. Maybe just maybe you all should consider that.”

      Actually, dealing with it internally means lawsuits. Let me educate you on what theat means.

      Up to 150000$ per image stolen and 2500$ to 25000$ for every watermark removed. Then, tack on legal fees for herself and the plaintiff when she loses.

      THAT is dealing with it internally.

      “After seeing the post today , I went and looked at her page and she apologized for a lot of things as well as misleading anyone.”

      Yup and why do you think she did that … go read the comments and how much we had to explain and cajole her to get even that.

      “I see lots of stuff on here as well about HOW DARE YOU , Lindsey , I don’t know her I don’t want to know her, But I have heard ALOT.”

      Kelly dragged her into this, at one point saying that Lindsay had uploaded the images to her site in spite … yeah … that was after telling us she was hacked and then saying she used them for inspiration … she didn;t get too much sympathy from us with the constant lies.

      PS.: I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not Kelley, just a friend in her house.

      • jimfanatic

        You Just said it has nothing to do with her work? half of these posts state she is illiterate , does not want to improve , she would have to steal her work is so bad , Sooo???? She should be working as an assistant or second shooter for an established photographer this is a good Idea for any new Photographer , I read through the comments , She states that she used a FEW from Pintrest , the others were placed ,buy someone who knew her page information. she actually said that more then once. and placing images on a site and hacking into someone’s account would be considered the same thing , ? so that’s the same statement I would think. I understand when someone lies it is not cool, I understand why you are doing this I really do , But the non stop harassment and degrading really has nothing to do with the photos. And you are correct I am not Kelly , I am James , I am having my car worked on and so I came to chill , I have no reason to lie I am not the one being outed ! I have even stated I agree with you , in what you do , I just think the other stuff you throw in is not needed. I couldn’t help but look at some of the others you all have caught , I noticed the one you all even made fun of for a house cleaning ad , seriously this is a little obsessive.

        • Photo Stealers

          So we’re supposed to believe that she used images from Pinterest for her ad but someone ELSE planted the stolen images on her page, without her knowing, for almost a year. Yet somehow, despite the comments on the planted stolen images from others AND “Back Country” Kelly never realized these images were there until this post? I’m sorry but I do not buy it.

          You’ve also stated you aren’t Kelly and aren’t at Kelly’s yet now you’re there getting your car fixed.

          • jmfanatic

            I said that in my first comment I was at Kelly’s while I was getting brakes!!! get it right before you accuse me of lying! ha ha how funny Lindsey is now using her missing brothers site to harass Kelly on her Facebook!! Pathetic!!! it has not stopped for a year now!! Keep believing who you want, I’ll give her one thing she is great at hiding her true colors!! it’s ok if you don’t have to by it , you all are so right no one is ever wrong that belongs to your page. you have no idea who these people really are, no pun intended directly. and as the lady above stated you are correct I am done reading this site , I am done responding to any of you its like beating a dead horse!
            Have a good night all !!!

          • Melinda Potter

            Ok ok I’m going to go ahead and say it… Against my better judgment, I’m going to say what I’ve been thinking.
            I think that Lindsay person that you keep trying to drag into this is a whack job. She does not come across as a nice, or very honest person at all. In fact she reminds me of the type of people we run into here at photo stealers all the time. And it’s obvious that Kelly and Linsay do not like each other and they both are out for blood. BUT this is a very important but… Listen now. It’s been said time and time again… This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Kelly’s illegal and unethical business practices. NOTHING! It’s not a matter of believing one or the other. Lindsey has nothing to do with it! Quit being moronic! Quit reading the comments. Quit listening to Kelly. Read the blog post above. Click on the links, look at the screen caps, read them, look at the original sources. How you cannot come to the conclusion that Kelly was trying to pull a fast one is beyond me!

          • Melinda Potter

            lol I get the prize for misspelling a name repeatedly and differently the most times in a row! 🙂

          • Just a Girl

            OH but Melinda— if Lindsay was her she would be proud of you for spelling her name right! 🙂

          • HOW DARE YOU!

            How am I a whack job?? Do I know you? I’m in here only BC another photog sent me. And here lies Kelly with lies. And keeps running her mouth about me. I cannot message her, txt her, call her. The only way for me to tell her to quit is on here!

          • Paul G.

            Well, I don’t know if I’d go so far as to call you a whack job, but it’s pretty clear there’s some personal drama/bad blood between the two of you. You’re both reacting very…strongly in your posts. If you’re worried about your reputation or anything, don’t be, nobody is taking her claims seriously.

          • U Really That Dumb?

            You seriously need to step away and take this up in the courts. Go talk to your attorney and get their legal advice as it pertains to you and your jurisdiction.

          • Just a Girl

            Stop Stealing Photos is not your personal message board to communicate with Kelly. Grow the hell up and move on. All you are doing is creating drama on a page that is NOT intended for personal vendettas… your issues with Kelly do NOT belong here. I realize that she mentioned you here early on but good christ- take the high road- at this point you are both looking a bit like lunatics.

          • HOW DARE YOU!

            Sure did. Only way to see what she’s saying about me! And of course lol lies. I have proof. Goodnight. I too am done here 😀

        • Melinda Potter

          I think it’s strange that the commenters here are being accused of harassment and you saw another post about it on your Facebook feed, and whatnot… Yet none of us here can see her Facebook, let alone post on her wall, or end up on your feed somehow. I think your anger may be a little misdirected. You may want to look more locally. If Kelly and her friends/family are struggling with things that were said here on the blog, you all could stop reading the comments that are posted here. Just a suggestion.
          You said earlier that things could have been handled more privately. Unfortunately most stealers posted on this blog were contacted privately, and they refused to handle things properly. A lot of the time the original artist is met not only with resistance, but malice. I don’t know what went on behind the scenes, or if Kelly was contacted privately before her posting here went live, but judging by her actions here, and the way she fought tooth and nail, I highly doubt any sort of private message would have accomplished anything at all except for Kelly to be even more uninhibited with her words.

        • Me, Myself and I

          ” the others were placed ,buy someone who knew her page information.”

          by someone …

          Yup … we’ve never heard that one before … posted images date back up to over a year ago … that means someone has been posting stolen images on her site for over a year and she hasn’t noticed? Seriously?

          “She states that she used a FEW from Pintrest”
          “But your honour, he only stole a few cars!” does that make any more sense?

          “But the non stop harassment and degrading really has nothing to do with the photos.”

          We’ve said it before and will say it again. If she is getting harassing phone calls, it;s not form the regular contributors here and she should contact the police.

          “you all even made fun of for a house cleaning ad”

          You didn’t read the entire post, the site was a weird mishmash of photography and cleaning services, it made no sense at all. She told us later that her site wasn’t finished and was a template. If you had seen the site you would have also gone WTH!?!

          Oh and BTW, as I post this info … Kelley has re enabled her Facebook page … guess what I’ve found at least 10 other pictures on there that are not hers. Not really helping her case here.

  • jimfanatic

    what the heck is my comment is awaiting moderation?

    • U Really That Dumb?

      ATTN: IF YOU ARE GOING TO TRY AND POST, READ THE STEPS REQUIRED! Don’t be so damn lazy to not follow basic commands and rules of the web! Seriously folks! Don’t sit here and complain that your posts aren’t getting posted! YOU are the idiot that can’t follow along!

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Kelly, you really are a piece of work! Seriously you need to stop the BS!

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      If you post from an unconfirmed account, it goes into moderation until one of us mods approves it. That’s to avoid spam, and has nothing to do with you specifically.

  • Celine (peaceetc)

    When you click on a text area to leave a comment, you are given the option of logging in via Twitter, Facebook, Google, or Disqus. If you create an account or login via any of those, you will be able to post without moderation.

  • Celine (peaceetc)

    This page is obviously not private. I was referring to what happens before it hits Photo Stealers. Those who have had their photos stolen almost invariably contact the thief to try to get their content removed, and it rarely happens. I do not know what happened in this instance.

    I can say, however, the person who runs this site does her due diligence before she posts, and Kelly has admitted to using others’ images in her ads without permission. That is copyright infringement, and is illegal under US law and the laws of almost all countries.

    Regarding your email, I answered that in a different thread.

  • Marc W.

    Don’t be surprised that we don’t believe you. You and her have the same IP address when posting and both have the same writing style.

    If you want to upload the photos somewhere, put it up on http://www.imgur.com and put the link in a comment.

    or tell “her” make her profile public for everyone to see.

    • jimfanatic

      well sorry Boss I can tell you I won’t get her to make the profile public with all the harassment it is public to all of us on her friends list , IMGUR ? seriously not being a smart ass , I am not so tech smart , so goto this upload to that page and copy the link into here? and Some style I am writing the English language ? You read to much into things

      • Paul G.

        The random capitalization of Random words, the “unique” grammar, the fact that you’re posting under the same IP address…yeah…

        • Just a Girl

          not to mention the weird placement of commas. Its comma space, not space comma space…. Kelly!

      • Marc W.

        Then you should email me back with it. If you didn’t get the email, I’ll email you again. Just let let me know.

      • U Really That Dumb?

        Kelly, call your ISP and tell them you aren’t able to have internet at home because you don’t know how to Google.

    • You can’t fix stupid

      Wait, first jimfanatic said that he/she was living next to Kelly , then he/she said that they were waiting while having their brakes done. What is it? If I live so close to my mechanic I won’t wait around his house for hours when my house is just a few steps away.

  • You have all been mislead

    • Me, Myself and I

      ???

    • Guest

      By whom and why?

    • Melinda Potter

      Morgan Freeman, Morgan Freeman Morgan Freeman
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5MEJk5ZCQ

      • Me, Myself and I

        MY GOD! Put him and Chuck Norris together and … MIND BLOWN!!!

      • Justin Case

        thankyouthankyouthankyou. this has now made this whole post worthwhile.

        • Melinda Potter

          I don’t know why I bothered reading your reply as Mogan Freeman narrated for me, but I did

    • V323

      Please clarify, with details & facts, about this supposed “mislead”. Grabbing the vodka popcorn now.

    • Melinda Potter

      I guess I’m the only one that gets it Christian he he he

      • Haha.. Honestly this has all gotten a bit sophomoric so I thought a touch of Morgan Freeman was in order. I see it this way, holding peeps accountable is a good thing but slandering and putting them down is not. Everything is a learning opportunity… Ohh well, I hope something was learned here.. If not, the rest will take care of itself in the court of public opinion.

  • Me, Myself and I

    It’s attached to your comments in the moderation queue … they see it as they approve the comment. It’s not like they went hacked the pentagon to get the info.

    The ONLY way you would have the EXACT same IP is if you were all on the same modem.

    • jimfanatic

      so that that would be why!! I am sitting in the kitchen!!

  • Melinda Potter
  • Celine (peaceetc)

    This site isn’t mine. I didn’t create it, and I don’t run it. All I do is act as one of four mods in the comments section. I, personally, have no posted any such information, and you’ll notice on that screen cap of the IP addresses, I removed your email username.

    I am not a fan of making fun of anyone on this site, but sometimes people’s frustrations get the better of them and they react out of that frustration. We deal with so many excuses and so many lies, that it’s a lot like banging one’s head against the wall. We just want people to stop stealing. That’s all. But those who get caught have a lot of trouble understanding that.

    As for contacting the thief directly — as I said before, in the vast majority of cases, that in fact done by those who have had their photos stolen, and it doesn’t work. So they turn to Photo Stealers to try to get something done. This site is well respected, and has been featured by numerous news organizations and other sites.

  • Photo Stealers

    No one posted a street address or map to Kelly’s house. We posted the IP address which is different. I don’t recall seeing her number here either – although it may have been on her page. I’m not responsible for information she’s made public on her own websites.

    Personally I do not contact the thieves and give them a chance to delete everything before being outed. This isn’t kindergarten. These are real clients that are paying real money to people they are assuming are real photographers who took those real photos in their portfolio. There is no second chances for wedding images.

    Bottom line: don’t use imagery that isn’t yours to promote your business.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      The address and phone number posted are what she had listed as her BUSINESS address and number.

  • HOW DARE YOU!

    TOTALLY WENT ON HER FB PAGE 5 MINUTES AGO! OMGGGG CAN THIS GIRL GET OVER ME LMAO!!!!,AND DAMN THE LIES WOW!!

    • Marc W.

      Did she apologize publicly on her FB account?

      • You can’t fix stupid

        No, I have checked her page and there is NO PUBLIC apology.

    • GlennMcQuaig

      If this is Lindsay (or Lindsey) I sure wish you’d post with the same username. Kind of hard to follow these random “Guest” accounts and who is saying what.

  • Celine (peaceetc)

    I wasn’t aware Photo Stealers needed to police others’ actions. This is a public forum, and people will do what they will. Photo Stealers discourages contacting the thieves directly, and I don’t know what more one can expect them to do beyond that.

    Again, I have no idea if someone contacted Kelly before it went up on Photo Stealers. But I do know she shouldn’t have done what she did, because it is illegal. There is a very good reason why it is illegal, and that she can be sued for up to six figures *per* photo stolen. This isn’t some trivial thing. Most of us here are photographers, and we take intellectual property and copyright infringement very seriously.

    Don’t forget, Jim, there are multiple victims here — the photographers from whom she stole, those who were severely misled by her postings photos which weren’t hers to garner business, and even Kelly herself. She did herself no favors by cheating, and she only has herself to blame.

    Think of it this way — if you’d created a painting, then someone else came along and claimed to have painted it and used that to get people to buy future paintings from them, you’d be pissed. It’s no different with photography or writings or anything else one might create. What we create is ours, and to have someone come along and steal that out from under our noses is a pretty damn crappy thing to do.

  • You can’t fix stupid

    Why should we call her, email her, contact her when she was the one that stole, she was the one that lied, she was the one that came here under many account names and came up with bullshite stories about other people hacking her account and all other bullshite stories.

    The best thing to do now is totally come clean,
    1) Contact all those who you stole from and compensate them (THE MOST IMPORTANT PART)
    2) post under your real name and make a public apology ,
    But if you had actually read what was in bold , the very first post, you would not be in this situation.
    We have had thieves that have done this and they have come out and got less slack because they followed the steps.

    Do the right thing, as a mom, show your kids how to behave and take responsibility for your actions.

  • Photo Stealers

    I didn’t realize her number was included. That is my mistake.

    However, the last time I checked, no one lives at their PO box.

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      Those PO boxes are pretty small.

      • Melinda Potter

        The rent is pretty cheap though

  • Celine (peaceetc)

    As Photo Stealers pointed out, it was a post office box, not her street address. And she made her phone number publicly available.

    As for someone calling her — if that happened, that’s terrible. No one should ever do that, and Photo Stealers actively discourages that sort of behavior. But as of yet, no one has been able to prove this has occurred.

    Whatever happened or is happening between Kelly and Lindsey is frankly irrelevant. We’re dealing with the photo stealing here, not some squabble which may or may not exist.

    By the way, Jim, I told you specifically how to get an approved account, yet you keep posting from an unconfirmed account. It’s getting pretty tedious to have to manually approve your comments, when you know how to fix that. Please do so.

  • Melinda Potter

    Isn’t that her business phone though?

    Anytime you post anything on the web publicly, the public can see it and it’s for everyone to see that has an internet connection.
    She came and defended herself. She chose to attempt to lie, make a mess instead of amends, and redirect as her defense. Kelly is not the victim here. The people in the photos she stole, the photographers who created the pictures she stole, the photography community as a whole, and her clients friends and family are the victims.
    Shoddy businesses of any type that get caught being illegal, or unethical get called out all the time. Why would a photography business be any different then say a restaurant or a clock repair service, or a well.. You name it??

  • Marc W.

    How is she innocent. She admitted here that she took someone elses’ photos and used it in her ad. That’s an admission of guilt, not admission of innocence.

    So, where is that proof that she admitted to her FB friends what she did?

  • Marc W.

    You want to know a secret? There is a website that can find these “private” pieces of information…. it’s called… wait for it.. Google.

    If it’s posted online (ie. Facebook), then it will be found on a Google search. So why are blaming us for the information SHE put on FACEBOOK?

    • Melinda Potter

      On her public Facebook business page

      • Marc W.

        On the public internet.

        • Melinda Potter

          Oh shit! I only want people who like what I am doing to see what I’m doing, not the mean jealous haters that don’t like stealing, misrepresentation, or fraud. Whatever should I do Marc?!

  • Melinda Potter

    Yes, Joseph shared the link on her page. Once it goes public it’s already public. What is anyone supposed to say? I’m sorry one of the many original creators of her content didn’t first contact her privately and ask that she take down the stolen imagery, only to be met with a nasty reply, first BEFORE this post when up. So Joseph’s link was the first she heard of anyone finding out she was a photo thief? How did she react to that?
    Was it a productive and positive reaction? What makes you think that if Joseph had messaged her instead of linking to this post on her reviews that she would have behaved any differently?

  • Marc W.

    Contact the police and report the people who are calling her.

  • Melinda Potter

    Listen to Marc W. Take it seriously, and do what needs to be done to make it stop. Contact the police. It doesn’t sound like just someone angry over infringment.

  • Yes that is my usual MO when a thief is outed i post links to the fanpage with tbe message “I heard that you are famous”
    I dont call I have no need to.

  • Sorry never posted that information. Why lie?
    Well I dont remember doing it but i will look.

  • GlennMcQuaig

    I understand your concern for the bashing. It has happened, but I can tell you it used to be worse, in my opinion. A lot of piling on was done, and it bothered me a lot, to the point I wasn’t very active here, even though I support this site and photographer’s rights.

    But you do need to understand that the outed photo thieves all seem to do the same things: they deny, lie, change their stories, blame others, attack us, and generally don’t take accountability for their actions. In the case of photo theft, it’s more than just a case of bad judgement. It’s willing fraud and theft.

    So we generally don’t have much sympathy for the thieves who don’t own up and do the right things. Even the ones who admit their theft don’t usually take the actions necessary, like contacting the photographers they stole from.

    We don’t need them to apologize here to us. We’re just the ones who caught them. They need to apologize to the photographers they stole from, and in some cases, make financial restitution.

    Until they make things right, or at least stop telling new lies and making up more BS crap, I guess they’ll continue to get leaned on.

  • Just checked ALL posts i did for over a week not once did i post any info like that … smh

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      Joseph, it wasn’t you who posted it, but another mod.

  • GlennMcQuaig

    Can somebody explain how anyone can still see Back Country Photography’s FB page? “Guest” and others have said they can see the page, yet I don’t see it on FB.

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      I think they were talking about her personal profile. But her business page is now up with an apology, per Melinda’s link above.

      • Yea the page facebook removed because of hackers but whatever at least she came clean finally.

        • U Really That Dumb?

          Nope! Still has stolen images.

  • U Really That Dumb?

    She posted that as her BUSINESS address. IF that’s also her PRIVATE address then it’s all on her!

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Seriously Kelly, you need to stop the lies!

  • U Really That Dumb?

    Apparently Kelly, you can’t read! You were told time and time again to block the number and call the cops. But since you apparently can’t follow basic directions AND the likelihood that you’re lying about it, there is no way you’ll do either of those. Especially considering filing a false report IS a crime you will end up behind bars for!

  • Photo Stealers

    To be CRYSTAL clear the above post has never been edited. Kelly is telling clients that their images were featured here. No other images have been featured but the ones above since the post went live. If Kelly told you that your child was here, she is lying.

    • Photo Stealers

      This is the second client that she’s told to. The first was Renee.

  • Melinda Potter
    • Marc W.

      I’m glad she posted the apology 15 minutes ago. But didn’t she say she posted it hours ago? Another lie?

      • Melinda Potter

        She had an apology posted, but it wasn’t public at all

      • Paul G.

        She also didn’t apologize for blatantly lying about hackers being responsible etc. Oh well, it covered the main things at the very least.

        • Melinda Potter

          I’ll take it. It’s by far more than any other person posted here has done. Even J star didn’t have the guts to apologize on her social media

          • Melinda Potter

            Pppppptttttttthhhhhhhh

        • Melinda Potter

          It’s the 24 steps photo stealer program. It takes more than the usual 12 steps

          • U Really That Dumb?

            She’s still actively stealing as she still has stolen images posted.

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      That’s a step in the right direction. I hope she takes it further and apologizes directly to the photographers from whom she stole, and offers some sort of recompense. Thanks for linking to the apology, Melinda.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      Any chance there is ANYTHING else stolen? If so it’s all out the window!

    • U Really That Dumb?

      So yeh, SHE IS FOS! Her apology is worthless! She didn’t learn a thing!

    • U Really That Dumb?
    • Me, Myself and I

      More stolen images still on the Facebook page.
      Haven’t finished sourcing.

    • barque

      It’s complete bullshit. She is acting as if she didn’t make up names and fabricate stories to make it look like the photos she stole were actually hers.

      Re-read that pile of crap apology. It’s just a bunch of “golly I just found out it’s illegal EVEN IF it was just posted for inspiration! EVEN IF I just had it on my hard drive and it wasn’t watermarked and EVEN IF it was public! Heck thanks to the kind people who have educated me! Now I know! I’ll never have another photo on my hard drive ever again, EVEN IF I never intend to post it on any of my pages!”

      Bullshit. BuuuuuuuulllllShiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

      She refers to PS as “the site I was reported on.” And why? Because she doesn’t want anyone to come here and see that it wasn’t just inspiration, it wasn’t just an accident or a misunderstanding. And she sure as hell doesn’t want everyone to the see the depths of her stupid excuses, her lies, her accusations that she is the victim of some pointless conspiracy, that everyone had it out for her, and so on.

      Bullshit. That’s no apology.

      • Melinda Potter

        I completely agree. She’s an ass. I’m so fuming right now, I just had to go check the mirror to see if smoke was billowing out my ears.
        I’ve never felt so foolish

      • Helena

        Translates very simply to “I’m sorry I got caught.”

        • You can’t fix stupid

          Oh hell yes! That is such a lame apology.

      • Factitious_Detector

        She doesn’t have to name the site. All anyone has to do is visit Google.

    • You can’t fix stupid

      Damn was reading the FB page and refreshed and now it is gone!! Bloody hell that was the shortest public oligopoly ever

      • Nope still up

        • You can’t fix stupid

          Just checked again and yes it is back up but she has been removing comments off photos that were stolen.

          • Celine (peaceetc)

            Wait, she’s removing comments from the stolen images, but she’s not removing the stolen images? Is that right?

          • You can’t fix stupid

            Comments were removed and now the images have been removed. Well the ones that I checked up on. Don’t know if it is totally clean now – might be. Will check again later.

          • Helena
          • You can’t fix stupid

            I am still on the bloody horses!!!

          • You can’t fix stupid

            Grab a screen shot

          • Helena

            Taken at 7:23am GMT.

          • GlennMcQuaig

            And it’s back down again. 6:53 EST.

          • Why not just remove the dam photos?!?!?.

      • GlennMcQuaig

        What’s an oligopoly?
        😀

        • You can’t fix stupid

          hahaha I have caught “The Kelly” 🙂

          • GlennMcQuaig

            Watch out! It’s contiguous! Spredds like wildfyre!

        • xma1e

          An “oligopoly” is a fake apology by a fauxtographer.

    • You can’t fix stupid

      and one more comment was removed. Couldn’t get a screen shot in time
      I remember the other comment had a link coming back here to PS post about how she was telling all her clients that their photos of their kids were listed as stolen.

      • You can’t fix stupid

        So she won’t apologize to Corey hmm nice true character

        • Just a Girl

          *shrug* she doesn’t get it….. she just doesn’t get that not only did she steal someone elses work BUT she also lied to her clients and friends. NOT misled. OUTRIGHT LIED. Now they know that shes incapable of producing what shes promised.

          • Helena

            I think the photos on her page made it quite clear she’s not capable of reproducing the images she stole.

          • Just a Girl

            Yep!

          • Just a Girl

            Its still creepy that people change names of someone elses children. Every time I think of it i get this nasty, squicky feeling that I get when I read something about a predator.

          • Helena

            Yeah I find that intensely creepy too.

    • V323

      Any one have the content of apology? It’s all gone now.

      • U Really That Dumb?
  • Photo Stealers

    I added a few more images.

    • Celine (peaceetc)

      It’s sad that it was necessary for you to do. I’d hoped maybe we were getting somewhere with her.

  • Helena

    So Kelly, any chance you’re actually going to take down the content you stole? It all seems to still be on your page, along with your bullshit “I’m sorry I got caught” apology.

    Also, FYI, taking pictures on railway tracks is trespassing and illegal. On top of that, it’s stupid and dangerous. Especially on bridges.

    • Melinda Potter

      I wouldn’t even bother trying to get through to this one anymore :/
      She had messaged me asking for help, and I chose to oblige because she seemed really sincere in her request. She had given me text saying she apologized both on her page and on her personal account, and wanted me to share it with all of you. But, since I couldn’t see either apology I told her how to work Facebook to make them public while still protecting herself and hiding personal information. Making sure she used the “view as” feature to make sure all the pictures and posts on her personal account weren’t public. I also guided her on how to behave, and to let people talk without getting defensive. I told her Id have her back if things got crazy, and try to set the tone, as long as she didn’t do anything that I couldn’t stand by. I reassured her, and even complimented her and told her how brave I thought she was.
      My last message back to her was letting her know that we saw stolen images still up on her page.
      She had the gall to ask me to point to where they all were, and told me she had been “going threw them for hours”, in the same breath…a half a second later, she explains that she hadn’t even been on her Facebook and didn’t have a chance to to go through them, and that she hadn’t even looked at her page until after she talked to me, and then relayed how difficult it was to find all the photographs she didn’t create when you don’t know where they are, by stating “it takes more then a fuckin hour to go through everything when you have no fucking idea where they are!!”
      It took 15 minutes for strangers who weren’t even there when the shutter clicked to find them, and source them to their original owners, and the only reason it took that long was because we all took the time to read her apology and commend her for finally doing the right thing.
      I have a very important person in my life who is a pathological liar, and has a yet to be properly diagnosed/treated mental illness. She learned very quickly to stay away from social networking online because it makes it very difficult to “get away” with anything. In fact when we need the truth, or need to help her see that she isn’t being straight, we text. She always begs for a phone call or a face to face instead, and blames her device or computer on any convo that doesn’t go well. She’s got face to face mastered if it’s not being recorded, but when things are typed out in black and white… not so much God love her. I guess what I’m saying is… If the people who love her can’t get through, a bunch of strangers on the internet aren’t going to be able to either.

      • Melinda Potter

        Kelly, people are very forgiving, but the internet isn’t. Everything you type and share is a permanent record. Be more careful with it, for your sake

      • Helena

        Melinda, you were a lot more kind to her than I would have been. I’m beyond frustrated she treated you like that. 🙁

        • Melinda Potter

          It was all I could do not to completely lose it with her. Especially after recieving 15 more messages from her after I’d sent my last one to her. They were confrontational in nature after she realized I was no longer helping her. Grrrrrrrrrrr…
          I should share our convo with everyone. She even gave me a screen shot to post here of an apology that was never posted publicly, even though she claimed it had been. Thing is, it’s not necessary pretty much everyone knows Kelly is a liar, don’t need to add more proof to the mountain of evidence we already have

          • nikkijean003

            Did she ask you for your contact info like she did Corey? LOL

          • Melinda Potter

            No, no intimidation tactics were used… Yet. I don’t block people or unfriend or any of that jazz. There’s just no need. If she wants to continue she can. It’s only herself that’s she’s hurting

          • keca

            You should. Why should she continue to get the benefit of the doubt from anyone that she’s actually sorry? You’ve put way more energy that I would have, and this is the thanks you get. No good deed goes unpunished.

          • Helena

            I agree. Posting the conversation might prove her character to the mindless lemmings who believe she’s innocent.

          • xma1e

            Normally I don’t condone outing, but in this case, put the convos here so there is a permanent record. I’m sure she’s bad mouthing you private now she cannot get you to believe her “stories”

      • nikkijean003

        How the heck do you not know what pictures you did & didn’t take? That just baffles me!

        I agree, she needs help, and is a pathological liar (I know from my single dealing with her as well as friends and families). She is one who will point fingers in every direction but her own.

        • The hacker is a clever one …they choose inages that looks like the work she would take of people she may meet to confuse her limited fallacies ha.

          • Melinda Potter

            Ut oh! Joseph went there! Leave it to you to say what we all were thinking lol

          • Melinda Potter

            There were a couple newborn pictures that weren’t too bad. Just to be fair

        • Melinda Potter

          It’s a sad and very lonely way to live

      • Celine (peaceetc)

        You went above and beyond for her, Melinda, and it shows how much of a class act you are. You gave her every opportunity to clean things up, and it’s her fault for reacting the way she did. It’s pretty sad she tried to use you like she did.

        It’s not hard to remove the stolen images, especially when there’s a ‘photos’ section on her page she can go through rather quickly. She should be able to easily identify which ones are hers and which ones are not. I can’t imagine that being a difficult thing to do.

        Thank you, Melinda. I hope you do post the entire conversation, but either way, I trust you to say the truth of what happened.

      • xma1e

        You’re obviously considered a soft touch. More fool her!

    • Photo Stealers

      I decided that it was best to block her IP from commenting. It wasn’t going anywhere useful.

      • Helena

        I agree. Her page is down. Her name is mud. Not much else we need to do here.

  • Savannah

    So there’s been literally everything on this one, can I call bingo yet?

    • Me, Myself and I

      Has she used the church/god square?

      • Savannah

        No, thankfully. Darn, still missing a few. But almost a full bingo card.

        • Celine (peaceetc)

          Are we playing blackout? I was hoping for regular rules.

          • Can’tLogInFromMobile

            I assumed regular rules, I just think it’s funny this one is almost a black out!

          • Savannah

            My new phone apparently hates Disqus or PS. I can never log in anymore. Sorry about that!

          • BigAl

            I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 3, and use Chrome on both it and my PC. This site displays fine on the PC, but is almost unusable when looking at PS. It seems to constantly fail to load ALL of the graphics. It’s fine on any other website.

            Alan

          • Christopher C.

            I get that occasionally when viewing the site on any computer. I don’t know where PS is hosted or if it’s using any kind of CDN (I don’t really feel like investigating), but occasionally the CSS will just straight-up refuse to load, crippling the entire site until you refresh the page.

            I haven’t seen this happen in a while, but I’ve seen it specifically with PS. Next time you see the issue, try to refresh the page and see if it fixes it – even temporarily.

          • Savannah

            It runs fine on my G3 ( and my old G2), but when I click sign in, it just says unable to load.

          • xma1e

            If you’re using Chrome on Android, disqus is pretty flaky. You’d think Google could get their act together.

  • Savannah

    Kelly,
    Melinda took time out of her day to try and help you. Not judge, criticize or condemn, but to actually help you. It’s not often that when we make mistakes people who don’t know us will try to help us make amends, let alone say they have our backs and support us while making apologizing. And yes, apologizing can be hard, can hurt our prides and show we did something wrong but you’ll find the photography industry sticks together when it comes to this issue & you’ll gain massive amounts of respect by coming clean and giving a genuine apology. Steps you can take are outlined in the pinned comment. Some of the comments here have gotten heated mainly out of frustration that this is something we take personally and is very hurtful to us. No one is making money doing this, we don’t sit here because we have no lives, but because it is important that someone takes this seriously & Corey puts a LOT into this. Please just come clean, it doesn’t have to be elaborate, just a simple, sincere apology. It gets you a lot further & people will respect you for it & odds are will try to help you… like Melinda did.

    • Savannah

      * While apologizing.

      • Paul G.

        After all the lies, she’d have to do a lot to make me believe anything she was saying was actually sincere

        • Savannah

          Agreed. However coming clean about everything and not giving a round about apology, but a; “I did this..not a hacker, not a competitor, not for inspiration, but to bring in clients & i’m truly sorry for everyone I hurt” is a really good place to start. And would at least show some regret or acknowledgment of what was done.

          • Factitious_Detector

            She’s incapable of feeling “bad” about it… only “bad” that she got caught. She doesn’t care about the effect this has on her kids, or on her own reputation, because in her head, she’s always the victim. She needs REAL psychological counseling, from a professional to find out why she is such a habitual liar and fraud.

            Will she get it? Probably not. Because if her husband and kids haven’t set ultimatums about her getting treatment at THIS point, they probably never will. People like Kelley are master manipulators, and I am SURE this is not the first/last time she’s manipulated her family on to her side, even in the light of BLATANT bullshitting.

            People like this don’t care about anyone else, other than that they are compliant cogs in the little fraud/lie games that make her life go-round.

            They are ALL like this. Next month it will be a new lie/fraud/scam. Until she gets real help, it will never end. All I can say is I hope the next one hits her wallet enough for the husband to put his foot down about her BS, or it lands her in jail for a good long time.

    • xma1e

      You should do a 180, and check out the wall behind you, you will get a much better response from a brick wall than a pathological liar like Kelly!
      She only sees everyone else as being wrong, not her.

  • Reolxi

    @jimfanatic (aka Kelly)

    These comments are hilarious. If you really wanted to pretend you
    were not Kelly, try disguising your writing style and demeanor, etc.

    Anyways,
    look at it this way. All the photos you stole and made up names/stories
    to weave your large internet web of lies are all PUBLIC. You took
    images of other people- people who gave explicit PERMISSION for their
    photographer to post images to their pages/websites. Those photographers
    have a model release, not you, the thief. You made your mistakes
    (“mistakes” is a nice way of saying this) public. Now face the very
    public consequences. None of us who are real photographers take kindly
    to people like yourself stealing work. Just because you think it would have been nicer if people just contacted you privately, doesn’t mean they have to. You were in the wrong, so you don’t really get to call the shots here.

    Besides potentially being sued by the original artists (copyright violations can run several thousands, and court can award more if you had made income based on the stolen work- basically if you booked any sessions after those photos were posted to your page). The clients can sue you since you don’t have a model release nor permission to use their images on your page. Boom. I hope several people sue you.

    Look up
    sociopath. You sound like one. A sociopath creates lies and more lies to
    cover up their other lies and lies so much they believe their own lies.
    Then they blame others, the ones who reveal their lies, as being the
    problem. I unfortunately have a sociopath in my workplace so now I have an easier time recognizing them.

    • Christopher C.

      “These comments are hilarious. If you really wanted to pretend you
      were not Kelly, try disguising your writing style and demeanor, etc.”

      Seriously. As if the IP address information wasn’t enough, the spaces on either side of nearly every punctuation mark were a dead giveaway. And like you said, the general tone of all the comments is identical. The “James” account is just as fake as Kelly’s apology, and her photography “business” in general. The sad part is, she probably actually does know a James in real life, and co-opted his identity to fight her battle.

      I think the members of PS know the situation here, and I agree with Melinda that it’s probably time to stop giving Kelly so much rope. Nobody on PS is going to write that magic comment that triggers the spark in Kelly’s brain that “fixes” her. She’s going to continue lying and making up bullshit stories and inventing more people to spin even more bullshit, and it’s just going to be a never-ending pyramid of frustration for everyone, so we should stop buying into it. Any time a new comment appears to defend Kelly or her business, just don’t bother with it.

      We’re not going to convince her that all of her actions were wrong any more than she’s going to convince us that she was justified and everything she’s said was true. (Even when her stories conflict.)

      Let’s step back and let her wallow in her own lies rather than having them inflict further frustration on this community.

  • Christopher C.

    That’s not how wireless networking works.

    • U Really That Dumb?

      @disqus_lQKMGYfopO:disqus, c’mon now. We KNOW she’s being honest there! So far we’ve learned of two personalities. Kelly & Jim. I guess she’s trying to tell us that there is a third we haven’t found.
      As for Wi-Fi, yeh, don’t you be throwing science in to this thread! LOL

  • Christopher C.

    Actually, you say what she wants because you’re both the same person.

    Give up the charade already. It’s making you look even worse than you already did when this whole thing started.

  • Marc W.

    Can we get an updated post above about her fake apology?

  • sweetypie101
    • Helena

      And she STILL has stolen photos on her Facebook page. Unbelievable.

      • Michael Goolsby

        Yep, pretty unbelievable. On the other hand, there’s so much stuff there that is actually hers, people have plenty of opportunity to see how lousy she actually is.

        • Helena

          True. There is definitely practice required there.

  • Why is it so hard for some to use their name or something unique for a business ??
    Sent from a iPhone, please excuse the brevity and typos.

  • sweetypie101
    • keca

      From the quality on that page, it looks like that’s all her own work.

  • sweetypie101

    wow. I don’t think its a coincidence at all. She is stealing again.

    • Me, Myself and I

      I’ve run through her Facebook photos and can;t really find anything stolen there. Do you have any examples?

      Everything on her Facebook goes from mediocre to decent and none of the decent shots have brought back any results on Google reverse image searches.

  • MPR1776

    Pics are hers though, can tell no ones eyes are sharp.