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Collecting Light AKA Journey Through Meadows in Brighton, England, UK

Website:  http://collectinglight.com/ [URL no longer valid]
Flickr:  https://www.flickr.com/photos/72610808@N04/

More proof that a pretty website doesn’t mean the photographer is legit.  This photographer was called out by the original photographers back in December but they have had no luck getting their images removed from Collecting Light’s website or Flickr.

Each gallery appears to be lifted from the same photographer so I’m not sourcing every single image, just a few from each gallery.

Each blog is also lifted from a single photographer and is accompanied by a fake story about the session.  You know how much those creep me out!

Update: 05/10/2014 @5:00PM EST

Added in some plagiarism that’s going on along with more stolen images from her Journey Through Meadows blog.  There are fake stories and stolen images abound on the blog and it is quite unsettling.  More digging has shown that not only has Lucie been plagiarizing but she’s also faked her own death.

Flickr has removed all of the stolen images and her photography website has been changed to force a login to see the site.

Lucie commented in the comments if you care to read her side of the story (spoiler – those are her images she took herself!).

Thank you for your ad clicks and donations – this enabled me to pay for more searches with Copyscape to help find the original writers of many of these blogs.  <3

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  • peaceetc

    The person behind the sites listed knows the original photographers don’t want their work used, yet they still persist. For those who question why Photo Stealers does what it does, it is exactly for this reason. They can usually succeed where private messages and other efforts to get stolen work taken down fail.

    Photo Stealers is not a cult, those who participate here are not a lynch mob, and we certainly aren’t a hate group. We just care about integrity in the photography industry, and want to see those who violate others’ copyrights (which is illegal, don’t forget) to do the right thing. If people wouldn’t take what isn’t theirs, then this site wouldn’t exist.

    • C Sab

      You’re wasting your time. The haters will continue to blindly see us as whatever they want in order to fit it into their excuses as to why they’re the real “victim.”

      • peaceetc

        Maybe, but there are some reasonable people out there who may not understand the need of this site, or why it’s a big deal and can’t be handled privately. I know I can’t reach everyone, but if I can at least reach a few, then it’s worth it.

        • C Sab

          True enough, but sadly the only ones who usually respond are the ones in the former category.

  • Helena

    Collecting light is the right name considering how much was nicked. Are any of the photos legit?

    • Stealing light would have been more appropriate. 🙂

      • C Sab

        Soon she’ll be trying to collect pity.

        • Helena

          This is the most angry I’ve been about any of the entries. I’m sure it’s mostly because she’s bloody British and should know better, but the sheer volume of theft and made up stories has just irritated me. ARGH!

          • Marc W.

            So you’re saying it’s OK/doesn’t bother you if Americans do it… because it’s expected? =/

          • Joseph Philbert

            LOL

          • Helena

            Of course not, but the Brits aren’t featured here as much as the site is US based. Plus I’m pregnant and irrational.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Thats no excuse Dammit (sarcasm)

          • Helena

            LOL!

          • Marc W.

            My wife is too. “No, I haven’t seen your sweater or keys… where did you put them?”

          • Helena

            To which the response is “I HATE YOU” followed by bursting into tears?

          • Helena

            Also, the laziness of posting the pictures to Flickr without even bothering to remove the EXIF info. ARGH!

          • Wes Jones

            What an OUTRAGE! In protest I am going to stop eating ENGLISH muffins, petting ENGLISH bulldogs and speaking ENGLISH!

          • well, to be fair..Americans stopped speaking English many years ago. =)

  • She says she’s AIPP accredited but … she doesn’t show up in their “Find a Pro” search so we could start by advising them of this. Also why would she be accredited with an Australian Photography Association when she is in England?

    Admin Name: Lucie Elizabeth
    Admin Organization: Lucie Elizabeth
    Admin Street: 3 Oldfield Road
    Admin City: Sandbach
    Admin State/Province: Cheshire
    Admin Postal Code: CW11 3LR
    Admin Country: GB
    Admin Phone: +44.7960867409

    Her website is hosted by Webfusion Limited so that could be a vector of attack … contact their abuse email and get her site torn down.

    Copyright owners could also hit the “abuse” email for her domain name registrar.
    support@domainbox.com

    But if the original photographer hasn’t been able to get things pulled by being nice… maybe it’s time to call a solicitor?

    • Helena

      Sandbach is the opposite end of the country! Do I sense a Brighton Uni student trying to make a side income?

  • Joseph Philbert
    • peaceetc

      If it’s really her. She’s lifted so many photos, who can be sure? 🙂

    • ugh…pretty girl, terrible pictures. missed focus and poor DOF choices in almost every one. must be cell phone pics.

  • Joseph Philbert
    • Twitter down!

      • Amber

        Her twitter is down because you people keep abusing her friends with links.

        • I have not posted a single thing on her facebook, twitter, linkedin or what have you so keep your generalizations to yourself.

          It’s nice to see you supporting your friend in her thievery.

          • Helena

            Ditto.

        • peaceetc

          The Twitter account was already protected when this page went up, so I’m not sure how much damage anyone could do.

        • Helena

          I just had a look. There are maybe 6 or 7 tweets? Two from a photographer whose work was stolen and misrepresented. That blog entry is now password protected.

  • Joseph Philbert
  • BullShite

    Dang, this is a pretty elaborate “life” she’s concocted via various sites and FAKE stories. It’s so astounding to me that people just can’t generate their own life experiences…. the fake stories are pretty indepth too. Wow.

  • Amber Fleck

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/lanaisabella/8234887894/

    This girls flickr isn’t legit either consider I am the model in question in these photographs so this girl is also infringing copyright images. I think Lucie has been targeted on a large scale here for whatever reason and the UK police have been informed.

    • Helena

      So that Flickr isn’t the original source either?

      • BadseySnapper

        Don’t think the UK police will be too bothered about copyright infringement…

        • Helena

          They’re really not.

        • Copyright violation is a civil matter, not a criminal one … now if a past client came back with FRAUD charges …

      • Marc W.
        • Photo Stealers

          Friend in New York… uh… Lucie is from UK.

      • Photo Stealers

        It is.

        • Helena

          Sorry that comment was REALLY garbled.

          • Photo Stealers

            Indeed. Here’s what she’s trying to say, “I am the woman in this image and it was taken by me erhm, my friend, Lucie. I, erhm, SHE is being unfairly targeted.”

          • Helena

            Thanks for the translation. :’)

    • Photo Stealers

      There are multiple images from this session and the subject is also the photographer.
      Lucie isn’t being “targeted” for no reason, she stole images from multiple photographers and has refused their requests to take the images down.

    • peaceetc

      If someone stole images from Lucie, that’s unfortunate. But I’m not sure what it has to do with Lucie’s apparent actions. Lucie was privately contacted (several times, it seems) about the images she was using without authorization and misrepresenting them as her own, which is illegal. It’s not targeting if she’s legitimately done something illegal.

      • doncalifornia

        Recently a couple stealers got all crazy mad that they were outed instead of being contacted “privately” so they could handle it. THIS is why, lunkheads. Most of the time, a serial stealer will ignore private comments about photos they’ve stolen. It takes PUBLIC SHAMING to get them scurrying about. Yeah, oh well, it is bound to be embarrassing, but that’s because you deserve to be embarrassed. If you steal photos, if you fraudulently represent those photos as yours, if you take money from people who are duped into believing those are the kinds of photos you take, then SHAME on you. You need to embarrassed, shamed in front of the people you are fooling, and that probably includes colleagues and family members. Oh well! You are embarrassed because you did wrong. Live with it.

    • Lana Isabella

      well Amber, actually I AM both photographer and model in this picture, so would you please stop lying?

      • peaceetc

        Well, then. That puts an interesting spin on things. Besides, I think it’s pretty clear Amber and Lucie are the same person.

      • Epic … sue her please.

      • Just a Girl

        *BOOM* LOL This is FANTASTIC! 🙂

      • doncalifornia

        Lana, so sorry you have been ripped off. I wanted to LOL LOL LOL at “Amber” but honestly I am just feeling bad for the people she is stealing from. It is a horrible violation. By the way your work is beautiful.

        • Helena

          Yes, it’s even worse when the subject is the photographer. It’s that much more violating.

          • Justin Case

            or when the model is a child, who is then given a new identity and gets dragged into the delusional madness of someone like Lucie Elizabeth. That really gets me. The arrogance of someone behaving like this and then doing NOTHING but lying when confronted.
            Seriously Lucie, give just a little bit of thought as to how nasty that behavior is to the people whose only crime was making photos that you wish you had the talent to make.

    • Joseph Philbert

      RUN RUN … its the UK police!

    • Joel A

      And I said “OH LORD ITS THE UK POLICE, I SMELL A LIAR!”

  • Justin Case

    wow, Lucie Elizabeth. What a shitty way to start a photography career. Did you really think that no one would notice?
    EVERYTHING IN YOUR ‘FILM’ PORTFOLIO HAS DIGITAL CAMERA METADATA! So, not only are you a thief, you’re a fraud and a liar, and not even a particularly good one.

    • Lucie Elizabeth

      Maybe you need to find something else to do with your time than picking other peoples lives apart? Obviously you have nothing better to do with your time than spend hours trailing through peoples flickers looking for faults (in metadata). I don’t need to explain myself, but I filed some of the images under ‘film’ simply due to their aesthetics, nothing more.

      • peaceetc

        Yes, Lucie, you do need to explain yourself. Why have you disregarded the people who have contacted you already requesting their images to be removed? You used them without authorization and misrepresented them as your own. That is illegal and you can be sued for a fair bit of money. Why have you not taken the appropriate action? Why were those photos up on your sites in the first place?

        • Lucie Elizabeth

          Have you considered that maybe those photographs are MY work and have been stolen from MY website/flickr? The models in many of those images are some of my closest friends so I am not in the least bit considered about being ‘sued’. Obviously something is happening here on a large scale, and yes, I am being targeted for whatever reason. Like I said, the UK police are handling this.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            And that is why I engage in this debate. THANK YOU.

          • Justin Case

            You’re most welcome. And please understand, that instead of somehow mitigating your bad behavior, you are now making it even harder for yourself to ever have a career in photography, since anyone who might hire you for a real shoot will be able to find all this information with a simple google search.

          • doncalifornia

            Yep. Lucie if you had listened the first time someone alerted you in last 2013 that you had been caught. You could have removed all the images which were not yours; gone out and taken some photos on your own; and started a real photography career. As it is, you have not only boldly plunged headlong into Photo Stealer Wall-Of-Fame territory, you are aggressively rattling around with all the same nonsense we see over and over and over: You’re a victim and everyone stole from you and everyone has too much time on their hands and you have the police investigating and blah blah blah. If you spent 5 minutes looking through previous cases, you’ll see that you are TEXTBOOK quality material here. Thanks for the entertainment, but I have to say, you have sealed in cement your doomed photography career. bon voyage.

          • peaceetc

            No, if I’ve read things properly, you didn’t say that, “Amber” did.

          • Justin Case

            interesting. So how do they show up in 2013 and then you claim they were taken in 2014 on your website? Try a little harder, we’re really not as stupid as you think.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            You can change the EXIF data on flickr dear, including the date taken.

          • Justin Case

            yeah, and I guess the people behind this conspiracy can also change logging information on Google searches as well… Ouuuffff. You’ve made some powerful enemies.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            Be careful what you write, everything is evidence.

          • Photo Stealers

            EVIDENCE!

          • Wes Jones

            Can everyone please stop for 5 minutes while I make some popcorn? This is better than a movie.

          • Helena

            How’s this? Tagged Canon, taken with two different Nikon cameras.

          • Helena

            Evidence!

          • Justin Case

            HAHHAHA! Do you think I am now behind the conspiracy? I’m not threatening you, I’m just pointing out how idiotic it is to imagine that anyone would go to the trouble to change HUNDREDS of photos’ metadata and then somehow magically change the dates of postings so they list erroneously on a google search. THAT would take some pretty powerful enemies.
            You, my dear, are hardly worth that kind of effort.

          • peaceetc

            It sure is. And you’re digging yourself a great big hole. You are not the victim here.

          • BullShite

            Oh geeze more false threats. YES “everything IS evidence” and we have more than enough on you preserved here so that when the people YOU STOLE FROM chose to SUE YOU, the case will go by rather swiftly.

          • Wes Jones
          • Just a Girl

            Lol!!! You wouldn’t happen to also go by the name Jazlyn Jamison would you?

          • Joseph Philbert

            Evidence this … You are a dumb ass.
            Now I expect to hear from a BIG TIME UK entertainment lawyer

          • Helena

            “Evidence this… You are a dumb ass.” has to be my favourite response to date!

          • doncalifornia

            Indeed.

          • Wes Jones

            Sorry, you can’t win this debate. You are just making yourself look more foolish with every comment.

          • Helena

            Yes, so why would you not change the copyright information showing the original photographer’s name?

          • Joseph Philbert

            I swear she is an idiot the images on her site have the wrong EXIF data … We all know her site was hacked …… Righttttttr

            <——This is my wtf face

          • YEs … and that’s why the images in your Flickr Stream range from Nikon D300s, Canon Rebel XSi, Canon 60D, Canon 7D, Canon Rebel Xs, Nikon D60 … that’s quite the wide range of gear you have there accross two brands + film …

          • Helena

            Yes! I noticed that when I had a pick through the photos on Flickr. Plus a canon XSi is a 450D in the UK so that exif info makes no sense whatsoever.

          • BadseySnapper

            Canon don’t sell Rebels in the UK, for some reason their marketing people think we prefer numbers!

          • Helena

            I do prefer numbers. 🙂 My first DSLR was a 400D.

          • doncalifornia

            But Lucie, dear, there are photos you posted, which you claim were taken in 2014, but which were POSTED by other photographers on other sites in 2013. Forget about the EXIF data. Just how do you explain a photo being published online, the year before you claim to have captured the photo with your camera. Do you understand the problem here yet?

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            But think what you will, I hope you guys have fun over this anyway.

          • Joseph Philbert

            She is that stupid lol

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            In college we were given 5D’s to shoot with.

          • Justin Case

            Lucie, if you want us to stop digging into your history, then stop with the lying and justifications. NO explanation will disprove that you did not take the images that have been posted above.
            You know what you did, and arguing technical specifics just muddies the waters at this point.

          • Helena

            Lucie, the photos are posted online before your posts on your blog and the SECOND picture on your Flickr account still has the original exif info giving the photographer’s name. All that is different from the original photo is there is a filter applied. You say you have a Canon 5D iii but you have images on Flickr taken with Nikon cameras amongst others? All you need to do is right click the images to reverse image search.

          • peaceetc

            Really? Wow. I can’t imagine she has a good answer to that.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            see above

          • Just a Girl

            See above to which post… this one?
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            peaceetc

            an hour ago

            Have you considered that maybe those photographs are MY work and have
            been stolen from MY website/flickr? The models in many of those images
            are some of my closest friends so I am not in the least bit considered
            about being ‘sued’. Obviously something is happening here on a large
            scale, and yes, I am being targeted for whatever reason. Like I said,
            the UK police are handling this”

            How that working out for ya 2 days later?

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            I got my 5D a month ago

          • peaceetc

            The person who actually took the photo in a comment below from “Amber” said she is both the model and the photographer. How about you try again?

            This whole thing would have never happened if you (allegedly) hadn’t taken what wasn’t yours. Please do not start trying to play the victim now, because it’s not going to work. Take responsibility for your actions — do the right thing by taking any and all images you did not take off of your site, contact each of the photographers from whom you stole, and be prepared to pay reparations and potentially deal with lawsuits.

          • Photo Stealers

            As you can tell, Lucie already messed up and outed herself as Amber.

          • captain-confuzzled

            tough keeping track of those multiple personas isn’t it?

          • peaceetc

            It’s interesting how many people fail to realize their IP addresses can be seen by the moderator.

          • Justin Case

            but haven’t you been reading? They can be faked, just like Exif metadata and google search results!

          • Marc W.

            *face palm*

          • Joseph Philbert

            I usually expect them to make other accounts to try to alleviate their guilt …#Facepalm

          • Ok so we have the MPD bingo slot taken and by inference the “They stole from ME!” slot as well … what’s next? Does “The Police” is involved fit for “Entertainement Lawyer” slot?

          • doncalifornia

            Low IP IQ

          • Joel A

            I’m cracking up so hard right now!

          • Wes Jones

            Yes, of course! That explains it all. Silly us.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Actually we know you stole the images … Dam your are delusional ..

          • doncalifornia

            “The models in many of those images are some of my closest friends so I am not in the least bit considered about being ‘sued’.” OK, I get it. She’s insane.

          • Joel A

            She has done gone lost her mind!

          • LookAtStuff

            No one ends up on Photo Stealers unless they are a photo stealer. Dear. The only thing happening here is the truth has come out and you are scrambling Lucie Elizabeth. Since this was posted two days ago your story sure has changed hasn’t it?

      • Justin Case

        wait, wait, you are actually going to engage in a debate about your LABELING??? YOU HAVE LIED AND STOLEN OTHER PEOPLE’S WORK AND YOU WANT TO TELL ME HOW TO SPEND MY TIME?

      • Are you disputing the claims that you’ve filled your sites and Flickr with images form other photographers?

        If you can prove you are the original photographer of the images listed above and that your accuser is actually the thief then you should really make that info availabel to Photo Stealers so that this entry can be removed otherwise pull everything that isn’t yours from your port and flickr.

      • Justin Case

        “A beautiful shoot with an inspiring lady and a ghastly, expired nine rolls of Fuji Superia Pro 400H. (Well, you learn.)?”
        Funny, since the actual photographer’s flickr account from where you stole these images says they were shot with a Nikon D3000

        • Marc W.

          Superia Pro 400H? Never heard of that one. I’ll check B&H.

          • Justin Case

            Oh, it’s real, I have several rolls in my frig and camera bag right now. Takes a VERY long time to go bad, and I can tell you, it never looks like those digital images.

          • Marc W.

            No, I’m well aware of Pro 400H. I’ve got several rolls… but was it ever called “Superia Pro 400H”?

            edit: HA! Only Lomography would call it that!
            http://www.lomography.com/photos/films/871914701-fujicolor-superia-pro-400h

        • doncalifornia

          And her explanation is that she filed those images under “film” on her site purely for aesthetic reasons? Was it aesthetic reasons to describe her shoot as including nine expired rolls of Fuji Superia Pro 400H?

        • Dr. Catfish

          And the fact that expired film is a highly sought after commodity because in the right hands it can produce a very unique asthetic.

          When i find someone faking film i love to grill them about chemistry, developing times, and the like. Or cross processing.

          Its also fun to ask them to define terms like reciprocity failure. Lol.

      • Joseph Philbert

        Her life needed to be taken apart for the very fact that she is a low life photo stealer most of the images are not hers nor is the stories she made up

      • Norman Beer

        Lucie,
        What part of YOU HAVE IMAGES THAT DON’T BELONG TO YOU did you not understand?
        Even in the UK, it’s illegal to steal images. Continuing down this road will not end well for you. You are better off taking everything stolen down, apologizing, and moving on.
        Take a look at past photo stealers and see what route works best. The route you’ve chosen to date has NEVER ended well for the thief.
        It’s like a house of cards and right now, all of the base is gone.
        Yes, a cross post because I want to make sure you understand the severity of this situation.

      • Dr. Catfish

        As a fine art photographer that primarily shoots film, this makes you even more disgusting. There are many of us in the film community that have a big problem with this. Shooting film extremely well is a skill, and requires lots of discipline.

        I have called out so many fake Polaroids because it cheapens the work and the art of those who can do what you only wish you could. I have spent a huge amount of time and money learning my craft and cultivating an asthetic and technique with a material that isnt photoshopped! Film is a fucking process not a bloody filter or label choice.

        All you have cultivated is lies. I have also been in a long term relationship with a compulsive liar before. You start to believe your own lies…and if you are really sociopathic, you get others who love you to enable them for a time. But trust me, it never ends well. Go seek some professional help. Excuse me while I go shoot some large format to get the stink of your words and actions out of my head. Its a beautiful day in California.

        • doncalifornia

          Dr Catfish, would love to see your work

      • Marc W.

        Lucie. You don’t know me. But I am someone you actually probably know. I’m a moderator in a few film groups on Flickr that you belong to. You have blocked me from messaging you and commenting on your photos I will have another moderator contact you (and post this here). Stealing aside, you are in violation of rules set forth in at least one group I moderate.
        1) You blocked a mod.
        2) No tags (camera and/or film)
        3) Posting in conflicting groups

        As mentioned, another moderator will contact you with this information.

        • doncalifornia

          Yeah, um, woops.

        • Marc W.

          Well, she has replied to the other mod by just blocking him. She has spoken.

  • Daniel Solomon

    Wow! I just recently discovered your website and I never knew
    theft of others photos was so prevalent.

  • Mamsphoto

    I normally don’t comment, just creep. I saw the rant from a” jasmine” . I just wanted to say…Thank you for all your hard work in bringing the criminals to light. (No pun intended) I am sure there are other things you would rather be doing. I say “criminals” because it is an invasion/stealing of someone else’s hard work and talent. I just can’t fathom how people do this. As my mom always said” you can’t expect people that aren’t right, to do the right things” So again, thank you for taking this role on. It doesn’t go unappreciated (P.s. I really hope clicking an ad helps, because that’s all I can contribute.)

    • Photo Stealers

      Clicking the ad totally helps! I don’t make a lot on them but enough to keep the site running and I even got to purchase some security stuff for the blog with the ad money instead of my own pocket! Thank you!

      • Mamsphoto

        You’re one tough cookie! I really admire what you do. Thank you for being our voice. Keep up the good work and I’ll keep clicking ads

      • Just a Girl

        Clicking some of those ads can sure spark the imagination. I clicked a Travel one last night and for about an hour I took a tour of the world and never left home. AND saved a ton of money! “)

  • peaceetc

    So is that it? Is Lucie Elizabeth going to explain the strange EXIF data showing other photographers’ names? Is she going to explain why she was pretending to be “Amber” before switching to Lucie? Isn’t she going to answer the person who said she is both the photographer and model in the photo “Amber” cited as being stolen from Lucie?

    She wanted to engage in this “debate” so it would be great if she would actually answer these questions.

    • Joseph Philbert

      I dont expect we will see her posting here again. She has been outed and its obvious that her defense has sooooo many holes…like a over used condom.

    • Helena

      How do you come back from exif data showing the original photographer’s name? There is no comeback to that.

      • Joseph Philbert

        I mean most of the images on her site have another photographers EXIF data attached to it… how did that happen?

        • Helena

          She took the photos, then the thieves stole them and somehow uploaded them from her array of cameras years before her, then she uploaded the images to Flickr and changed the exif information to match the thief’s exif info. Obviously. Not guilty Guv’ner.

          • peaceetc

            Obviously. 🙂

          • Joseph Philbert

            Nailed it!

  • Brian

    I too only recently discovered this site and I am amazed how much effort and time people spend trying to pass off as their own work. Why, people? Is it because they are lazy? Or is it the “I want it now generation”? I’ve only been shooting now for about four years. To learn this craft, in an effort to become a better photographer, I read books, I go to workshops, I shoot photos, look at what I did wrong and shoot again.
    Thank you Sir for your time and effort.

    • It’s why we are so active here … we bust our “procreation spherical organs” building our portfolios and skills … we invest in shoots and in marketing, in training, in books … and in gear just so some low life can steal it from us? NO! NO MORE!

      • peaceetc

        Procreation Spherical Organs would make an excellent name for a rock band.

    • doncalifornia

      To be honest I don’t think it’s laziness. They go through a lot of tedious effort and long nights crafting what really amount to their own delusional dreams. Some, like this one, go off the deep end to construct whole fantasy conversations and experiences to go along with the stolen photos. Sometimes I suppose it is just part of the fraud; you really have to sell your story. But other times, like here, I think it’s not simply a matter of crafty raw deceit, I think it’s partly a matter of designing and creating a cozy warm bed of artifice to roll around in. She doesn’t have the ability necessary to build a true and admiring following with her work, so she works really hard at faking it and “living the dream.”

  • Melinda Potter

    *shivers* the made up stories behind the photos always creep me out. It’s like a whole new level of nasty and strange. I have difficulty understanding any photographer who steals pictures from others, but then to take it even a step further and make up some sort of fantasy.. Ewwwww just glad I don’t know them personally.

  • Fernando García

    Hey,

    I’m Cristina Hoch’s ( https://www.flickr.com/photos/whiteface_greeneyes/ ) boyfriend, we talked to this girl (Lucie Elizabeth) some weeks ago and it’s a crazy story…

    When we propose ourselves to report that this girl was stealing photos to her twitter’s followers (a lot of them photographers) she said that we hacked her flickr, twitter and various accounts and that we stealed her photos… Some of them belive her, lol, but she lost a lot of followers.

    This girl is fucking crazy, she invents stories and fantasies about her photoshoots, by example, look at this (extracted from her web):
    —–
    “There is something about shooting (picturing) children that just comes so easy. Maybe this time, it was Abi’s playful and effortless manner, her ways, the way she talked to me about her Grandma’s gingerbread houses, the perfect mist of freckles soldering her face, her green eyes that lit up my lens, or the afternoons sun that seeped through the back of Abi as she lay down, and again, talked to me about the following afternoons adventures with her classmates.”
    —–

    Well, she calls Cristina’s sister (named “María”) “Abi” and say that she (María) is a friend of her family. When we discuss with her, and we said that she is a spanish girl, one of her friends said that she (María, again) travels in a plane from Spain for Lucie’s photoshoots. WHAT THE FUCK?!!! Seriously? Because a LOOSER is waiting her to take a few photos? A little sister (11 years-old)? It seems logical…

    Her friends also said that María and “””””Abi””””” isn’t the same girl (lol) or that María doesn’t exist and that Cristina was lying, well, I’ll leave a photo AGAIN of both (Cristina and María) for them:
    http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0j7ro9JSD1qcgdyro1_1280.jpg

    Be careful with that girl, seriously, she’s mad and her friends too… I’ve never known of such a shitty person like her, never…

    Please, Lucie, go fuck yourself and stop to stealing photos 😉

    And thanks for your job, guys, sincerely 🙂

    • Thank you, my love ♥

      • Justin Case

        Hey Cristina, you and your sister make beautiful photos together, don’t let all this madness stop you!

    • Joseph Philbert

      Well this post is international now so she can’t escape the truth this time. Lies will be known.

    • Photo Stealers

      Your welcome and this is why I do what I do and take the hell that I get for doing it – sometimes the only way to get these images down is to make a post. I’m so sorry this happened and that you went through all of this. Hopefully the images are all gone soon and this will be over for you.

      I’ve seen lots of crazy so I’m prepared.

    • Anna

      I was one of her friends you messaged on twitter and I stuck up for her. Mistake!

    • doncalifornia

      Cristina, your photography is rich and gorgeous and achingly beautiful. Amazing, touching images, wow!

  • semi

    This is what part of her Flickr page looks like now.

    • BullShite

      It’s AWESOME that it states “Copyright Infringement”. Now anyone looking her stuff up will be aware, and those that believed her childish lies can get some MORE proof that she is nothing but a huge faker.

    • Joseph Philbert

      Strange how someone who did not “steal” anything takes down the images they were accused of ….stealing.
      This is what innocent people do …… NOT~!

    • peaceetc

      Her gallery went from 527 photos to 83. I’d say that says everything right there.

      • Helena

        Wow.

      • Marc W.

        And I like what she has left. =/

      • Joseph Philbert

        Dam that many… Wow

  • Norman Beer

    Lucie,
    What part of YOU HAVE IMAGES THAT DON’T BELONG TO YOU did you not understand?
    Even in the UK, it’s illegal to steal images. Continuing down this road will not end well for you. You are better off taking everything stolen down, apologizing, and moving on.
    Take a look at past photo stealers and see what route works best. The route you’ve chosen to date has NEVER ended well for the thief.
    It’s like a house of cards and right now, all of the base is gone.

  • Just a Girl

    I about choked on what I was drinking when I checked out her “Followers” on her Facebook. ( I blocked out all but the important one! LOL)

    • doncalifornia

      LOL Melinda Pease!

      • Photo Stealers

        She probably contacted her for the CNN article about my hate group that I’m a cult leader of.

        • Just a Girl

          hehehe! Just gets better and better, huh!

        • doncalifornia

          Yep, definitely. And unfortunately, Lucie has reacted in a way which would indicate she’d be right on board with Melinda’s crusade. Now it’s an international fight against the cult.

    • Justin Case

      Wow, all those multiple personalities in the same place at once. I hope they rented a BIG hall.

    • Joseph Philbert

      Omg…. I believe Melinda is showing her support ha

    • Justin Case

      Despite all our jokes, I REALLY hope that Lucie doesn’t get caught up in Melinda’s demented lies. Lucie has her own issues to deal with, and Melinda’s misplaced anger and bitterness will only make things worse for anyone she drags down with her.
      So Melinda, if you are reading this, to involve anyone else in your fantasy revenge crusade would really be vicious.

      • doncalifornia

        I’m actually starting to think Melinda is a little sick upstairs too. I’m not being silly or mean. I think she has a problem.

        • Lucie Elizabeth

          Who the hell is melinda?

          • Helena

            Melinda is another photographer who got caught stealing photographs and was outed on this website.

  • Helena

    Website is now password protected.

  • Anna

    I’m a so-called friend of Lucie’s… But I just found a third site of hers: http://aboutsparklesandfades.blogspot.co.uk/ (now Lucie Owen apparently) – in it she says she took a part time photography course in 2009 then studied psychology. When I first met Lucie last autumn she told me she was 2 years into a uni course doing photography and starting the third year down in Brighton. Lucie, I was feeling sorry for you a bit until I found this. You lied to me – in person – and you’ve also let me down so many times. I’m sorry to say I believe what all these people are saying. I find it very strange that you have behaved like this, as whenever we met up for coffee I enjoyed it and really liked you. But I feel lied to now, and that – on top of being let down so many times – really pisses me off. Sorry to say this in public, but these people need to know what I know.

    • Helena

      I’m really sorry you’ve had to go through this.

    • Justin Case

      Thanks for sharing the link Anna. It really looks like Lucie is having a lot more issues than just building up a fake photo portfolio. I hope that she can be made to see that this is not an issue she can just run and hide from, that it involves other people, and that lying – whether through a computer or to your face – can have real consequences.

      Lucie, I know you are reading this since you have been reacting to the posts even if you are no longer responding. Look at this as an intervention: step back, try to fix the damage you have done, and then start over. Hiding and more lies will only end up doing more damage in the long run.

      • Lucie Elizabeth

        Then leave me alone?

        • Helena

          Lucie, it’s very telling about your character when your friend has apologised to the person you stole from, and you have not. I am beginning to think that you don’t give a shit about the feelings of others based on the self pity you have displayed on here. Once again, you are not the victim. Your friend is. The photographers and bloggers you stole from are. Please, accept responsibility and make things right with the people who suffered at your hand. Then you can expect peace here.

          • peaceetc

            Amen to that, Helena.

    • captain-confuzzled

      Lucie, if you are reading this, I also want to say that you are clearly a remarkable young woman, who has made great strides in a very difficult journey. Your dreams and vision are beautiful ones and I look forward to seeing your own work, rather than that of others. It is not okay to use other people’s work as your own, with your own stories added, or disregard those who ask you to do the correct thing. Your treasure is to show us your photography! Like the other journeys you are making, beautiful photography starts one step at a time, with a joy of experimentation, learning and expressing your own vision. I wish that for you more than I can say, as I know you have much to share and speak of with your photography.

  • PS Lucie.. Brighton is a beautiful hub of creative people. Many of whom are amazing photographers. I know lots of them by the way. I’ve already started emailing them about your theiving ways. Word will spread fast. Do you know Lomo Kev? I do. he’s been informed. He’s an institution in Brighton.. you’re name is now shit. Well done, hack.

  • peaceetc

    Lucie appears to have a vivid imagination. Wouldn’t it be great if she could utilize it and put that creativity to work for herself — photography, writing, what have you — instead of lying and taking that which does not belong to her? Wouldn’t it be great if she could live in truth instead of lies?

    As with anyone who gets outed on here, all I want for them is to own up to their actions and to no longer steal others’ work. The lying, the sob stories, the covering up, the threats… all of that is futile and only makes things worse.

  • Helena

    *sigh* I read the blog, and thought to myself that her food photography was actually really good, but the temptation to reverse search got the better of me and not only are some (not all) of the pictures stolen but the recipes plagiarised too. FFS!

    http://ahouseinthehills.com/2013/12/11/truffle-salted-purple-potato-kale-cakes/

    http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/eating-clean/potato-kale-cake-recipe-with-a-little-motivation/

    • doncalifornia

      So she’s been living this fantasy for at least 5 years.

      • Helena

        Sorry the original post is 5 years old. She posted this 6 days ago.

      • Helena

        Yeah I agree that she does have some serious issues and I don’t want to derail recovery in any way either, but she needs to admit what she did, remove the stolen/plagiarised content and move on. I feel quite sad that someone could go to these lengths to make up an existence for themselves.

        • doncalifornia

          Yes, although I know she has a problem, psychologically, however it’s beyond acceptable that she is continuing to completely deny the deceit and fraud. She should give up, mea culpa, delete, bow down, promise never again, pray she doesn’t get sued into oblivion, and start fresh, if she has the motivation to start at all. Either way, stop it already.

          • Helena

            It’s beyond the photos too. It’s whole blog posts and recipes as well.

    • Joseph Philbert

      I am so not surprised!

      • Helena

        Not surprised, but disappointed. It would have been nice if at least one facet of her photography was consistently her own work. I would rather put out a load of shit work that was mine (and I do) than great work that is someone elses.

    • LookAtStuff

      Here’s another:

      http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/fitspiration/breakfast-tacos/

      These delicious tacos can be eaten any time of day, but I especially love them in the morning, or more specifically, for brunch(and if you should enjoy them with your favourite beverage, I won’t judge!) These beauties contain kale, which pretty much means you are immediately the patron saint of nutrition when you eat them (which automatically over-rides your double mocha with extra soya cream, legit!). Make them, I promise, you’ll love them.

      http://ahouseinthehills.com/2013/12/18/breakfast-tacos/

      “Technically these tacos can be eaten any time of day, but I love them most in the morning. Or, more specifically, for brunch. Sunday morning brunch. And if you should enjoy them with a Blood Mary I wouldn’t judge! They have kale in them, which pretty much means you are immediately the patron saint of nutrition when you eat them. AND THEY ARE TACOS! It’s brilliant, I’m telling you. Make them. You will love them, I promise. xx- S

      And she can’t claim these are inspiration or she just really likes these tacos, she copied the intro, not just the recipe.

      • Helena

        It was the same on the other recipes as well. A house in the hills did seem to be where a lot of posts came from, so I let the person behind it know as she’s also a photographer.

        • LookAtStuff

          You can spot it right away because House in the Hills uses the same tablecloth a lot. Here’s two more she borrowed:
          http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/fitspiration/curried-pumpkin-butternut-squash-soup/

          http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/fitspiration/nori-veggie-wraps-my-everyday-staple/

          • Helena

            Yeah, I clocked both of those when I was going through the posts, but couldn’t be arsed to source them all as I was on my phone at the time. Realistically, there’s not that much content on any of the pages that was Lucie’s to start with.

          • LookAtStuff

            Oh or how about this one: http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/fitspiration/lately-according-to-my-phone/

            ““Benjamin Franklin said ‘I haven’t failed, I’ve had 10,000 ideas that didn’t work.’ Thomas Edison said, ‘Of the 200 light bulbs that didn’t work, every failure told me something that I was able to incorporate into my next attempt.’ Theatre director Joan Littlewood said, ‘If we don’t get lost, we’ll never find a new route.’”

            All of them understood that failures and false starts are a precondition of success and that being right is based upon knowledge and experience and is often provable. Knowledge comes from the past, so its often safe – it’s also out of date. It’s the opposite of originality. Experience is built from solutions to old situations and problems. The old situations are probably different from the present ones, so that old solutions will have to be bent to fit new problems (and possibly fit badly).

            “Your vision of where or who you want to be is the greatest asset you have. Without having a goal it’s difficult to score.”

            Which is in a few places but the earliest I can see is 2006 from here http://ezinearticles.com/?Aim-For-The-Moon&id=148038

            Benjamin Franklin said “I haven’t failed. I’ve had 10,000 ideas that didn’t work. Thomas Edison said “Of the 200 light bulbs that didn’t work, every one of them told me something that I was able to incorporate into the next attempt. Theatre director Joan Littlewood said “If we don’t get lost, we’ll never find a new route.”

            All of them understood that failures and false starts are a precondition of success. It takes a positive attitude to make mistakes well. Samuel Beckett said “Fail, Fail again, Fail better!”

            It’s wrong to be right.
            Being right is based upon knowledge and experience and is often provable. Knowledge comes from the past and its safe. It is also out of date and the opposite of originality.

            Experience is found in solutions to old situations and problems. The old situations are probably different from the present ones, so that old solutions will have to be bent to fit a new problems) and possibly fit badly). Also, the likelihood is that if you’ve got the experience, you’ll use it. This is lazy.

            Experience is the opposite of being creative. If you can prove you’re right, you are set in stone. You cannot move with the times or with other people. Being right is also boring and you mind is closed. You are not open to new ideas.

            Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/148038

          • LookAtStuff

            This one is copied from an e-book… thing

            http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/fitspiration/moving-forward-with-a-superfood-quinoa-breakfast-bowl/

            Everything we experience in life, both internally and externally, is the result of how we have responded to a previous event. After all, we only have control over three things in life – the thoughts we think, the images we visualise, and the actions we take (our behaviour). How we use these things determines everything we experience. If we don’t like what is being produced and experienced, we have to chance our responses. Change our negative thoughts into positive ones. Change what we spend our time daydreaming about. Change our habits. Change what we read. Change our friends. What how we talk about (and how we walk. Always, always hold your head high).

            http://worldtracker.org/media/library/Metaphysics%20&%20Spirituality/Jack%20Canfield%20THE%20SUCCESS%20PRINCIPLES.pdf

            I can’t copy but it’s the bottom of page 9

          • Helena

            Oh man. This is ridiculous. Why did she feel the need to do this?

          • LookAtStuff

            I really don’t know, but I can’t seem to stop looking. Here’s more:

            http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/recovery/on-plans-perfectionism/

            “Embrace the creative process, letting go of perfectionism. Its hard for me to admit, but its been one of the most profound lessons Ive learned this year: perfectionism may enhance my professional life, but it most definitely hinders my everyday life. Its difficult to let go of idealist ways that are ingrained in your very being. But I’ve come to realise that I no longer have a choice; I can either lower my standards or spend the rest of my days annoyed and disappointed at myself, my lack of free time, and my inability to create the scene that I envisage in my head….”

            Nov 2013

            http://www.practisingsimplicity.com/2013/10/fourteen-practicing-simplicity.html

            Embrace creative progress, let go of perfectionism.

            It’s so hard for me to admit but it’s been one of the most profound lessons I’ve learnt this year: perfectionism may enhance my professional life but it most definitely hinders my everyday life.

            It’s difficult to let go of idealist ways if they are ingrained in your very being. But I’ve come to realise that I no longer have a choice; I can either lower my standards or spend most days annoyed and disappointed at the state of my home, my lack of free time, my inability to create the scene that I envisage in my head…”

            Oct 2013

            ETA: This blog entry also shows she knows how to credit people as she says this later down the page… “Books like these, have been therapy for me and I’ve found myself taking more and more time away from real life to engage in such material. I’ll share with you some of the things from Micheal’s book on the chapter “Making Plans” (Minimising Perfectionism) that I’m locking away.”

          • Helena

            I think the evidence is conclusive enough now that even her most hardened supporters are probably wobbling.

          • LookAtStuff

            Yikes, instead of just googling phrases I started punching them into a plagiarism checker and, no kidding, I think she has stolen 95%-97% of her blog posts.

            This one is my “favorite”. She ripped off a post titled, “Taking 100% Responsibility for Your Life”.

            http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/recovery/taking-100-responsibility-of-our-lives/
            Most of us have been conditioned to blame something outside of ourselves for the part of our lives we don’t like, and I am too, to blame for this. We blame our parents, our friends, our boss, the media, our clients, our siblings, the economy, our lack of money – anyone or anything we can pin the blame on. We never want to look at where the real problem is, which is mostly, always, ourselves.
            10/2013

            https://jackcanfield.com/taking-100-responsibility-for-your-life/

            In fact, most of us have been conditioned to blame something outside of ourselves for the parts of our life we don’t like. We blame our parents, our bosses, our friends, our co-workers, our clients, our spouse, the weather, the economy, our astrological chart, our lack of money—anyone or anything we can pin the blame on. We never want to look at where the real problem is—ourselves.

            5/2012

          • Joseph Philbert

            Man … It’s hibitual. She needs to go away, reflect, and rebrand

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            There is no rebranding that needs to be done on my PERSONAL journeys through meadows blog. Its a scrapbook of my recovery and I will post what the hell I like on there.

          • KimJ

            So why did you copy almost word for word another persons blog?

          • Melinda Potter

            If it was a personal collection, it would have not been shared publicly or used to promote your photography. Time to get honest with yourself Lucie

          • Helena

            The caveat on this is that it has to be your own pictures and your own words, so that you don’t commit copyright infringement as you did previously.

          • Just a Girl

            If you only used someone elses words and photos for your own use why did you change parts of the story and insert names into the descriptions? could it REALLY be that you knew what you were doing….?

          • Joseph Philbert

            You mean a scrapbook of lies of your recovery. YOU ARE A FRAUD!

          • Helena

            Fraud is the word she used against Christina Hoch.

          • Joseph Philbert

            This one thing I will tell you … I will do my best on my free time to let others know you are a liar, fraud, and a thief.

            Why you you ask? Well because you show no remorse for the things you’ve done then blame others of stealing the work and writings you displayed. I don’t know you but from what I have seen you are SCUM.

          • peaceetc

            I strongly suggest you make yourself familiar with copyright laws. You are certainly free to post whatever you like, technically speaking, in the same vein I am free to walk up and slap someone silly. But that does not make you exempt from the consequences of your actions. Copyright infringement is illegal for a reason, and you can be sued for quite a lot of money. This is not a victimless thing, here, Lucie, and it’s high time you acknowledge that. Besides, how is it a scrapbook of *your* recovery when they are someone else’s words and photos? How does that represent you at all?

            Would you be okay if I took your photos and words and presented them as my own? How would that make you feel? Would you accept it and leave me alone simply because I said to?

            So how about I create a blog, Facebook page, and Flickr account and go around on message boards telling your story as my own. Let’s see how that goes over, hmm? Because heck, I have health problems and I need them to show my personal journey that isn’t personal at all.

            Lucie, I want you to get better. I want you to stop taking advantage of the kind nature of others, to stop taking what isn’t yours, and to get healthy, both mentally and physically. But continued denials, dismissals, and blaming others will not get you there. If it could, you’d already be there.

          • LookAtStuff

            Here’s a recipe she didn’t get from a house in the hills, she branched out I guess

            http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/recipe/healthy-flapjack-recipe/

            Over here, a flapjack is a well-loved, simple granola bar-esque treat. They’re loaded with butter and oats, as well as golden syrup. They’re basically the best application of golden syrup I’ve ever found. That unique caramelised flavour translates so well to the final bar, and provides a brilliantly chewy texture, perfect for a tasty treat during the cold winter months!
            11/2013

            http://www.pastryaffair.com/blog/date-flapjacks-from-izy-of-top-with-cinnamon.html

            Over here, a flapjack is a well-loved, simple granola bar-esque treat. They’re loaded with butter and oats, as well as golden syrup. They’re basically the best application of golden syrup in baking that I’ve ever found. That unique caramelised flavour translates so well to the final bar, and provides a brilliantly chewy texture. Of course, it can be easily substituted for another liquidy sweetener like honey or agave syrup, with excellent results too!

            8/2013

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            As a way of self expression to help me through my illness into recovery. My blog is/was MY SPACE to offload and post and I didn’t feel the need to credit people from books when my blog was used merely as a SCRAPBOOK of my own personal journey through anorexia recovery. I didn’t/have never wanted a large army of followers or cheerleaders telling me how brilliant I am, I just wanted a way to express myself, how the hell is that so wrong?

          • captain-confuzzled

            Lucie, it is not wrong to express yourself as long as you use YOUR work, not other people’s. How would you feel if people took the photos you have posted and put stories they made up and gave the impression that they took the photos, and even said they were professional photographers. What you did just isn’t the right thing to do, when you used photos that other people took, particularly when you are claiming to be a working photographer. And to follow it up by getting angry and blowing off the people who DID make those photos originally that you stole, is so wrong on so many levels. Blogging and using photography to help in your recovery is a wonderful idea. It’s something I also do. But make it your own, apologize to the people you have harmed and then bring us more of your work.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            Im sorry if I hurt anybody by it. Im really sorry! Though my personal Journeys Through Meadows blog was never intended for anybody but myself. Now can we all please stop having a party in my pain and leave me? There has wrong been done and me not crediting authors but Im not a criminal, but somebody that hurt for a long time and was trying to find my way out of it through creativity. Now can we please stop the bullying and digging?

          • Melinda Potter

            Lucie, you are not the victim here, you are the perpetrator. If you hurt anybody? If?! You did hurt people, not only the people you stole from, not only your audience, but everyone who took the time to read and respond here. You are the bully. You are the bully that treated your victims that confronted your wrong doings like they were vile human beings. You publicly shamed them for standing up to you and trying to make you do the right thing. I notice a friend of yours posted here that was emotionally hurt by you, and you do not address it. Two people you stole from also posted here, and you have not addressed it. You are only addressing posts that you feel you can continue to play your “I’m a victim” game with. NO! Maybe the people in your life don’t care enough to say it, but I do. It’s time to be yourself. The jig is up. Come clean, apologize properly, take down all the creative work that does not belong to you, and self exsamine

          • Melinda Potter

            (Got cut off) And self examine like you have never done it before. I have no idea if you read the link on Internet munchausen that someone had linked to earlier here in the comments, but victims equate it to “emotional rape”. You won’t ever be healthy by stealing feelings, thoughts, and lives from others. Time to live your life, no matter how shitty you may think it is. You are worth it

          • KimJ

            If you are sorry then apologize

          • Norman Beer

            Lucie,
            Like everyone else I too am sorry that you are struggling. You say we have no way of understanding you and your illness, yet you know not of our past and have no idea what we’ve gone through. That said, Image Theft and Plagiarizing are illegal, even if it was for your ‘own blog’ (personal healing) because you posted it to the web. Keeping it on your own computer is one thing, putting it out for the world to see is illegal. That’s the part that I don’t think you’re understanding. It’s not a gray area, it’s black and white.
            I would encourage you to stop the pity party, yes, that’s what you’re still doing, and take the appropriate steps in recovery. What you’ve done (throughout and since outed), or claimed why you did it, are all lies to not only the public, but yourself. That is NOT the way to a healthy life. That’s not how you recover and move on.
            Perhaps this will be your wakeup call, your bottom, your oh shit moment that makes you realize that the lies you’ve been telling are fucking you up forever, and until you stop those lies you will continue to suffer and live in a world of hurt and fully in your illness.
            Go seek professional help! You are killing yourself by continuing these lies!
            My suggestion and I’m sure that of most professionals you would go see, delete everything on your computer and the web that you did not take. While not everything, the vast majority of your images. Delete also every word of plagiarized text. By the looks of it, almost everything.
            If you’re not able to do it yourself, or figure out what’s the truth and what is lies, have a friend do it for you.
            Perhaps even just delete everything from your computer and start fresh.
            Then apologize individually to each and every person you stole from!

            Sound harsh? Well, guess what, it’s nothing compared the the potential costs associated with defending the countless legal battles. Heck, if even one of your stolen images was used to drum up business you could be facing fraud charges. Mental illness (yes, eating disorders ARE a full on mental illness for those people doubting it) is not handled well in prison. So deal with this the right way and stop paying the victim!

          • Helena

            It wasn’t your self expression though. It was very public expression of other people’s work
            with a very public following. If it had been all your work Lucie we’d be applauding you for your recovery, as I don’t think that anyone doubts you were/are unwell, but there was so much on your blog/Flickr/website that just wasn’t yours including pictures of someone else’s bathroom that you claimed was yours?

            As Melinda said, you are not the victim here. The people who wrote/took the original material and blogs are. You say plagiarism from a book you don’t credit but a significant portion of your blog was pinched straight from others too. Your Flickr was mostly stolen work, some even with the exif left in tact.

            When asked to remove work that wasn’t yours you accused the original photographer of theft? That’s not self expression, it’s downright nasty. You convinced a lot of people too that artists like Christina were guilty of theft so they attacked her with your lies. I have yet to see a public admission and apology to those people that you were in the wrong maybe because you still don’t realise what you did wrong?

          • doncalifornia

            Expressing yourself is not wrong. Stealing images and words from others is wrong. This is simple.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            No dear, I quoted this from a book.

          • LookAtStuff

            Well, dear (two can play the condescension game y’know), why didn’t you source it? I know you didn’t go to a physical college, but I know they teach about plagarism in lower classes. Hell, I learned not to steal words in 4th grade. See, dear, I wrote a report on a book on Helen Keller and I “borrowed” the words from the back of the book because I ran out of time and, I mean, everyone knew I was a good writer so they would know that I was capable of writing it, I just didn’t want to bother because I was running out of time. No big deal right? I mean, I wasn’t making money off of it. It wasn’t to get fans or draw attention to myself.

            The thing is, stealing, be it words or photography, is wrong, dear. I learned that when I was 9 but it’s not too late for you to learn. Here’s a nice site that will help you so you don’t have this problem again. http://www.plagiarism.org/citing-sources/overview/

            PS I know you have sourced things on your blog, dear. You even credited people. So I know you can do it. Why wouldn’t you do it all the time? Better yet, why not use your own words?

          • Joseph Philbert

            She needs to rebrand … This is just way too much

      • Photo Stealers

        Ugh, copying About blurbs too? I’m researching the blog now. Wow, so much plagiarism!

        • LookAtStuff

          Good luck! You have 12 pages of stolen words to get through. I will treat you to a vodka when you come up for air!

    • LookAtStuff

      ohmanohmanohman can someone confirm that this is the same person or did she just rip off someone’s life story about anorexia on her about page?!?! Lucie was diagnosed at 12 and the other person was diagnosed in college. (I decided not to post the other’s person’s name so they aren’t dragged into a public space. If that was the wrong decision let me know). Also most of the post looks like this, I just grabbed a few paragraphs.

      http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/about/

      Which came first? The chicken or the egg? For me the question was between anorexia and depression. Did depression cause my downward spiral into anorexia? Or did the sharp turn into starvation-mode wreak havoc on my brain chemicals? Perhaps in someway, it was both.

      I was a diagnosed anorexic at twelve, though, it wasn’t about weight loss at all. A common misconception. I had been primed for an eating disorder since early childhood. The perfectionism, the obsessive rituals, the need-to-please, the social anxiety, the low self-esteem, chaotic family life, and looking back, they all played a part in my almost-demise.

      The last decade has been very much of a chilling blur consisting of countless hospital admissions and a very lonely sense of powerlessness. Looking back, I can’t quite believe how much time I was lost and consumed by disease. Depression, anxiety and panic attacks followed me around like my shadow, I was engulfed almost constantly with starvation being the only way to numb any sense of what desperately empty and painful life I was living.

      tumblr.com/post/ideletedallthesenumbers

      Which came first? The chicken or the egg? For me the question was between anorexiaand depression. Did depression cause my downward spiral into anorexia? Or did the sharp turn into starvation-mode wreak havoc on my brain chemicals? Perhaps in someway, it was both.

      I was in college when the anorexia began. I had never even tried to lose weight before. I was actually (get this) pretty content with my body. Nope, it wasn’t about weight-loss at all. A common misconception. I had been primed for an eating disorder since childhood. The perfectionism, the obsessive rituals, the need-to-please, the socialanxiety, the low self-esteem, the just-chaotic-enough family life…looking back, they all played a part in my almost-demise.

      • Melinda Potter

        Oh no! Why?! Why would anyone do this? I need a shower now. So grossed out

        • Lucie Elizabeth

          I have/had anorexia.
          Proof.
          The ‘story’ is my OWN STORY.

          • Melinda Potter

            My very best friend since tenth grade has anorexia and was sexually abused from infancy until the age of twelve. This does not give her license to take other people’s words or creative content to “help” her healing process, or give her a pass to treat others unkindly. I’m going blind. This does not give me a free pass to take creative work or personal stories from others, and scream kick and yell at people who find out my “secret” . This does not give me the right to manipulate people emotionally. I’m sure most everyone here is battling something in their lives. Writing, creating, and photography, are very good therapy, but only if YOU are the one doing it.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            People do wrong things in life when they are hurting. Just because I didn’t credit authors etc doesn’t make me a bad person….everyone in life makes mistakes. You also don’t know my story to even begin to know the depth of my illness or where I have come from. People deal in different ways, some good, some bad, Im not manipulating anyone emotionally.

          • Melinda Potter

            I would know your story, if you had truly shared it like you claimed you were. Why not give it a try? Why not stop with the denial, and move on to accepting responsibility? I’m sorry but you have been manipulating people emotionally, including yourself by owning other people’s stories and images. Own your story, own your mistakes and wrong doings, own your flaws, and your wonderful personal assets. Honestly, you’re good enough to just be you. Wouldn’t it feel better knowing that the people who follow you, are truly interested in YOU and not the fantasy you created about yourself?

          • Just a Girl

            Do the right thing now. Regardless of what you have been dealt in life you know whats right…just do it. trying to make excuses, use your illness or being rude is not the right thing.

          • Helena

            Lucie, you make out like you are the only person here who has ever struggled, or battled an illness. Some people here will still be battling their own demons, but that doesn’t give them a free pass to do whatever they like without consequence. You may not be a bad person, but you seem to be failing to do the right thing in this instance as you have still failed to admit your wrong doing and apologise to the injured parties.

          • doncalifornia

            The depth of your illness does not make stealing and fraud ok. Sorry. You keep coming on here to say how all this plagiarism and photo stealing was caused by your illness, yet what you need to be doing is apologizing to every single person who has been hurt not only by your stealing, but by the vicious ( VICIOUS ) way you have accused them of stealing from you, of hacking your account, of lying about photos you claimed to have taken. And you need to apologize to all the people who you allowed to be abused and attacked on your sites from your “supporters” when they brought to light YOUR crimes.

          • peaceetc

            Yes, you absolutely are manipulating people emotionally. All those faked deaths speak to that quite clearly. You want people to feel sorry for you. You want to take their sympathy and wrap it around yourself and hide so you don’t have to take any responsibility for your life. Then when your lies are exposed, you tell people you don’t want to talk about it and to leave you alone. And then another web of lies is created, and the cycle continues.

            If you’re hurting, then I am sorry. But, Lucie… we all hurt. We all have our struggles. You don’t know our stories, either. I would never want to negate any pain you have experienced, but you don’t get to do that to others, either. And by denying you’ve hurt anyone through your actions, you are doing exactly that. You don’t know their stories, you don’t know how your actions have hurt them. You don’t know because you hide from it, and by doing that, you pretend it doesn’t exist. But it does, and it will continue to happen as long as you continue behaving the way you do. You have a choice — continue lying, or be truthful and own it. If you do the latter, then you can come out of this being stronger and healthier than before. But it’s up to you.

      • Helena

        I can’t see it. Can you link to the Google cache by any chance?

        • Helena

          I found the post through Google. Jeeeeez. I really don’t know what to say.

          • LookAtStuff

            I wasn’t sure about posting that woman here over something terribly personal like that. It seems different than the photos somehow? I may just be taking this part too personal I suppose.

            Helena since you can see the original tumblr to you wish to alert her? This tumblr stuff is confusing and I can’t figure out how to contact the original author. I guess I’m an old lady! (lol)

          • Helena

            Can I just confirm you mean a recovered life before I send a message?

          • LookAtStuff

            That’s the one!

          • Helena

            I sent a message. I feel really grossed out by this.

          • LookAtStuff

            Thank you so much! To be honest, I was almost having fun – I haven’t done so much internet research since LOST went off the air! (lol) But when I thought to check her about page … ew did that hurt my heart.

      • Melinda Potter

        The other post was posted November 2011. I don’t know for sure how to check when Lucie’s was posted, but PLEASE someone prove that Lucie was the original writer. Otherwise… I don’t know, but this really upsets me. My eyes are even tearing over this. I hope when I check back in later today, that someone can say with certainty that Lucie didn’t plagerize her whole life story.

        • LookAtStuff

          Melinda, it’s making me ill as well. Here is the very first post on her blog. http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/paths-ive-walked/respire/#comments it is dated July 18, 2013

          • Melinda Potter

            🙁 to take someone else’s pain, illness, heartbreak and use it for your own personal promotion/gain like that… Great. I’m crying now. They aren’t even my words, but somehow… I don’t know. This is just awful.

          • LookAtStuff

            Oh Melinda, I’m so sorry! I’m sorry you’re hurting. Just remember that not everyone is as awful as this.

          • Melinda Potter

            Thank God for that.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            Have you ever considered somebody else’s pain? My anorexia story is real and perhaps my need to blog/write/photograph and post images has been my only outlet.

          • Just a Girl

            You stole that story from someone else. You may have a similar illnes but you did not write that story. All you did was steal it and change it to fit what you say your story is. Whats with faking your own death?

          • LookAtStuff

            Have you ever considered arecoveredlife’s pain? I don’t see how using other people’s words and stories is an outlet for you. How about writing your own story? Using your own photos? It has to be less work than hunting down other people’s lives on the internet.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            Im not taking ANYBODYS pain or illness anywhere. This has been MY LIFE since I was 12 years old. Maybe consider this as the result of MY PAIN. Now please, leave me alone?

          • LookAtStuff

            No that’s not going to happen until you take care of this. I suggest you take a moment to look into other blog posts here of other stealers. Those who have come clean and made amends are left alone. In fact Corey has taken some stealers off if they take care of their lies immediately instead of doing what you are doing now.

            Right now you’re making it worse. Any one with eyes can see you plagiarized huge swathes of your web page. ESPECIALLY YOUR ABOUT PAGE! You lifted that directly from a lady on tumblr who has made a safe space for other anorexia sufferers. She answers questions and provides support. And you stole her story. Do you think she is going to… pat you on the back? She’s been informed and I doubt she will be pleased. I sure as hell wouldn’t be. You say you have your own story. Then write that! I am sure your story is interesting and I think you are creative enough to write it out in your own words. I’d like to read it.

            (And that’s the sad part. I enjoyed the posts and photos that were obviously yours. You don’t need to be doing this! You are obviously creative and talented. You be you. You can take 100% responsibility of your life. (I’ve read Jack Canfield too!))

            Anyone with eyes can see that you have had stolen work on your site in which you advertised your photography services and misrepresented yourself. This is not going to go away. If you keep pushing it will get worse. That is not a threat, that is just common sense. People here who get caught and act the way you are usually raise hackles of these blog readers and they look for more. If you had handled this properly we never would have found all the plagarism! What will we find next Lucie Elizabeth Owen?

            You say you’ve removed every photo that isn’t yours. If true, fantastic! The next step is to call off your attack dogs on twitter and other spaces. You need to apologize to Cristina and you need to do it publicly.

            Next, take some time to take care of you. Maybe take a break from posting on the internet for awhile.

          • peaceetc

            That seems to be your mantra — I’m in pain, leave me alone. Doesn’t it matter how many people you are hurting by your actions? And yet you expect to be left alone? I’m sorry, Lucie, but life doesn’t work that way, nor should it. You can try to hide or push people away or what have you, but it won’t change reality. History has shown that you’ll just turn around and do it again and again and again. It is not healthy for you, and it’s not fair to everyone else. Take responsibility, do the right thing, and then maybe people will leave you alone. But this is on you.

            Here’s an idea — why don’t I start talking all about how I’ve been disabled from birth, so I can use that to build fantasy worlds around myself, drawing in many people, and then when my lies are exposed, I’ll just say “shut up, I’m disabled, leave me alone.” Because I *am* disabled, and will be for the rest of my life. But that does not mean I get to use it as an excuse to do the kind of things you have done. And neither do you.

            You are are responsible for your own actions. Start acting like it.

          • BullShite

            WE ALL HAVE PAIN.
            I live in chronic pain. I get off my ass and run my business. I don’t steal. How many of the people here do you think might be victims of abuse? Recovered addicts? Have dead parents? Have (legitimately had, not pretended to have) suffered through diseases, injuries, or disabilities? Have fought in wars, or seen REAL tragedy? Not just made it up to feed their addiction to attention and pity?

            GET OVER YOURSELF.
            WE ALL SUFFER WITH SOMETHING.

            Maybe if you did SOMETHING LEGITIMATE in your life, instead of pretending to die, or stealing other people’s lives, you would FIND the attention you desire…. that is REAL.

        • Lucie Elizabeth

          I didn’t plagiarise my whole life story. I have MANY more images of my sick if you need them.

          • KimJ

            This was posted on 11th November 2011 , yours was done in 2013
            Why can’t you just admit that you have stolen pictures, articles and say that you are sorry?

      • peaceetc

        Please tell me she wouldn’t use someone else’s heartbreak as her own. What is going on in Lucie Elizabeth’s life that she feels the need to create a fantasy world? I really, really hope she gets whatever help she needs or whatever it will take for her to stop this behavior.

  • Joseph Philbert

    It never end’s well for liars…

    • Fernando García

      I saw that but she deleted the message immediately

      If she goes to the police she will make us a HUGE favour, LOL

      • Helena

        The police will not touch this with a barge pole. For a start, there is no criminal charge as nothing false has been said, and then there is the obvious issue of her copyright and IP infringement.

      • Joseph Philbert

        Yeap!

  • captain-confuzzled

    so much to find about our Lucie…I believe this blog is also hers and the selfies tell quite a story. http://sparklesandfades.blogspot.com/2010/12/boredom-busters.html Have also found blogs that talk about a time when people thought she died from anorexia. http://backtothin.tumblr.com/post/8331561356/longsleevesandpaintedsmiles-lucie-blue-owen

    • Justin Case

      it’s her for sure. email on the ‘About’ page is same as the one she used to post here. Plus, the profile photo is obviously the same Lucie as on her newer blog and facebook.

      • Joel A

        Sorry this shit is making me sick now.

    • LookAtStuff

      Wow. We are getting into some weird spaces in the internet now. Very upsetting!

    • LookAtStuff

      Here’s an interesting post from a forum Lucie is now banned from:

      Lucie, I was devastated to hear of your passing and I’m so glad you are alive. But please can you explain to us what has happened? If this is a hacking, do you know who is behind it? Why have you ‘died’ of Leukemia and Cystic Fibrosis in recent years, possibly among other ‘deaths’? Please help me out of my confusion here.

      • peaceetc

        People thought she’d died? What the heck?

        • Anna

          She appears to be on a suicide commemorative wall, saying she died in 2005. I met her just a couple of months ago..!

      • Joel A

        I think someone is too far down the rabbit hole.

        • LookAtStuff

          haha if you’re referring to me omg are you ever right! I closed a bunch of tabs and poured myself a drink.

          • Joel A

            Actually I meant Lucie, because she has made up so many stories, lies, etc.

            But I agree….this one is rough. This is one of those that you have to just step away from for a little…cause the further you dig, the more its upsetting.

      • Just a Girl

        No, she changed her name to Scrabble. She has a post on there in the Creative Corner section called
        My Photography. *Update, page 2

        From the little bit I looked EVERY single photos was linked to Flicker and instead of showing the photo shows the Flickr removal notice for the Copyright Infringement.
        UNUNUNFREEKINGBELIEVABLE the web this girl has woven. I seriously hope she gets alot of help.

        • LookAtStuff

          I have looked and looked and can’t find this so maybe she removed it? i don’t think those forum members want her back! They should be told before she pulls this again.

    • Joel A

      First thing I read on that page: “A 19 year old psychology student ”
      Really? Psychology? I think someone either needs to do some self diagnosis or is that not true either?

      • Lucie Elizabeth

        I did psychology at the Open University as I was too unwell (with anorexia) to go to college at the time so studied there. After a year I quit the course because of how heavy the course was. I then moved onto studying photography full time at college and left having passed the course last year. Its not lies dear, people make changes in life all the time.

        • Helena

          It may not be lies, but can’t you see how through plagiarism and image theft that everything you have done could be called into question?

        • Melinda Potter

          Stop with the condescending “dear” crap. It’s not helping your case at all and it makes me clinch my jaw. I want so much to believe you are a good person who just got derailed a bit, but when you do this, and after already attacking people you stole from… I makes me believe that I’m completely wrong about you, and you really are as vile as you come across.

    • Wes Jones

      If you run the picture at http://backtothin.tumblr.com/post/8331561356/longsleevesandpaintedsmiles-lucie-blue-owen through FotoForensics, it appears that it has been heavily modified. The lower right corner looks like distortion from using liquefy in Photoshop.

      • captain-confuzzled

        wow

      • LookAtStuff

        I honestly don’t know enough about photography, but that corner caught my eye. Strange.

  • Photo Stealers

    Digging in more. Stuff like this creeps me out: http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/vegan/30-days-of-grateful-day-22-23/ is stolen from http://www.chalkwhitearrow.com/2013/03/the-finally-completed-bathroom.html. She expanded upon the story but the images are all stolen. Also note that Chalk White Arrow’s design is VERY similar to Collecting Light’s design.

    • captain-confuzzled

      creepy for sure

    • Helena

      I feel nauseous.

    • Justin Case

      Jesus. After the whole JJ Jamison nonsense I thought that we had seen rock bottom. But no, it just gets deeper. Some psychology PhD student needs to do a paper on the pathology of people who steal images, all the research is already here.

    • LookAtStuff

      OMG! I thought she really was doing all the redecorating so I mostly skipped those! LOL did you notice how she only took four hours to do this project, unlike the five hours the person who ACTUALLY DID IT took? haha She has to oneup the person she’s stealing from!

    • Joel A

      The level that someone will go to steal like this and then make up fake stories, there are some real serious mental issues going on there.

      • Photo Stealers

        Agreed, I hope she gets the help that she needs.

  • Joseph Philbert

    It takes a certain person to almost completely make up a persona from the work of others, creating entire blogs including images adding some of their own in the mix.

    Its so rotten the best thing for her to is gave up, sell the domains, understand what she did wrong and if photography is truly her passion then re-brand and do it right and do it honestly.

  • Melinda Potter

    This goes well beyond stealing other people’s intellectual property. Well beyond scamming people by misrepresenting your skills. Well beyond holding contests where there are no winners to gain a following. Well beyond the “normal” that we see here on the blog regularly. I’m sick to my stomach, and tears run down my face because of what this person has done. It’s completely sick and twisted. Everyone do what you can to get EVERYTHING taken down. Not my words, not my pictures, but if I feel this deeply… I can’t even imagine how violated the people feel that Lucie stole from. Way too personal. Way over the line.

    • Justin Case

      Melinda, I too am sorry to see that this goes so deep. And I don’t think Lucie has any idea of the pain she has caused with all this. There is no humor here, just sadness and hurt.
      I wish we could contact her friends directly. I believe that Lucie is seriously ill and really needs help… more than any of us here can give her.

    • Fernando García

      Cristina is suffering for this a lot… But she doesn’t stop

      • Justin Case

        Very sorry to hear that Fernando. It really is crazy. If it means anything, the only thing Cristina is guilty of is making photos beautiful enough that someone else wishes they had lived the experience.
        Hopefully all this will end for you now that it’s all been exposed.

    • Helena

      It is horrific. People’s lives and homes and the food that they eat repackaged up like it’s her life, and photos and experiences. She needs serious help, and I really hope she has the support network in place to give it to her.

    • LookAtStuff

      Melinda, I ran across Photo Stealers about two weeks ago and since then I’ve been reading every single story posted here. It took me awhile but I read them all! I joined up on facebook so I could follow along there. Today with the kids busy and the husband at work I thought I’d pick up from Helena’s post about the recipes and see if I could find some more plagiarism. It was fun at first, it felt like an RPG. I even started posting instead of lurking! Then it just turned sad. And weird. And now you’re sad.

      All that to say that even though I’ve been a lurker I’ve been struck by your very kind and intelligent posts and your sense of humor. So even though you don’t know me I feel very sad to see you so sad. 🙁

      • Melinda Potter

        Aw Thank you LookAtStuff. I was really really hoping that at least her personal stories were hers. May seem weird, but I’ve done exactly what you’ve done today, and have felt the same way while doing it. It IS interesting and compelling to search and investigate, and find more proof. It can be very humorous and entertaining at times.
        Maybe this is why it got to me so much. There’s no humor in this. Or…. Maybe it’s just that time of the month ;). There I found a giggle

        • LookAtStuff

          I’m glad you found a giggle! And that I’m not the only one who has, as someone further down said, fallen down a rabbit hole!

        • Joel A

          This is just plain sad, I have seen the fake cancer ones…but faking her death…multiple times? Amongst creating these elaborate stories…Its sickening. Really sickening.

          • Joseph Philbert

            She must be a saint…

          • Melinda Potter

            At least the people faking cancer didn’t steal other people’s personal stories and intimate feelings about their illnesses. Feelings that were shared in the hopes to help others going through similar situations, and to help themselves recover and become mentally well.

          • Joel A

            God….its disgusting….

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            If you actually real the words in my Journeys Through Meadows blog you’ll find that they are mostly positive words and reflections from my day. I suffered with anorexia from the age of 12 (I’m now 23 and only just in recovery)…(photo proof if needed) and writing and photography and blogging has become the only way Ive been able to move forward. Can we please stop this now?

          • Melinda Potter

            I did actually read the words Lucie. That’s why it was so disheartening to find out they were written by someone else. I DO agree though… Can we stop this now??? Making your own photographs and writting your own words would be much more beneficial to yourself and for others, don’t you think? I would love to hear what you have to say, and see how you see. What you have been doing is fraudulent and hurtful to others as well as yourself. Take down everything you have not created, and start a new more honest chapter in your life.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            Thats been done on my Journeys Through Meadows site. The images that are there as of now have been created by me, and on my flickr too. My site is private for the time being while I get things sorted. Thank you.

          • Just a Girl

            have you contacted Cristina to apologize for stealing from her? Have you let your friends who attacked her know that you lied and actually stole Cristina’s photography and encouraged them to apologize to her? Until that happens people are just gonna keep digging thru this fake life you have created online. plagerism IS harmful. Its stealing from other people. where in all that mess have you gave the correct person credit?

          • Helena

            There were other people who were attacked on Twitter for asking Lucie to take down their images, not just Christina. There’s also the photographer/model who “Amber” i.e. Lucie, claimed to be who posted below. It was a whole tangled web!

          • Melinda Potter

            This is a good first step. Now come clean to your audience, and apologize to them, and the artists and writers you stole from. It won’t be easy, but, it’ll give you the clean slate that you need to truly start discovering yourself.

          • KimJ

            You have to publicly apologize to those you have hurt. Your friends have to know that you lied. All your blogs need to be pulled down and have an apology for stealing the images and the content.

          • Helena

            Basically this. A private apology and offer to pay usage fees wouldn’t go amiss either, although could be very expensive.

          • KimJ

            Oh and how many times have you “died”?

          • KimJ
          • Lucie Elizabeth

            Also, my writing IS ALL MY OWN. I simply take extracts from books etc that I find enlightening or comforting and post them, that wasn’t supposed to be harmful and its a shame that people aren’t able to reference text on their own blogs without being abused for it. My blog was mine to see, nobody else’s. Like I said before – I have never wanted fans, I just wanted an outlet.

          • captain-confuzzled

            wondering why you had ads for your photography business if your blogs are “just for you” – doesn’t really wash, does it? ad shown from the Journeys Through Meadows site.

          • Melinda Potter

            Oops. Is that a stolen photo on the ad?

          • Melinda Potter

            “my writing IS ALL MY OWN”. no, it’s not. Read the photostealers blog post. Read the comments here. Try to see things more clearly. 95% of your online presence was taken from others. Why can’t you see that?

          • Helena

            Your writing may be all your own now, but it wasn’t by a long way. It’s not just referencing text, it was lifting and embellishing whole blog posts. This would have been fine if you had said “originally posted by xyz” but you took credit for it!

          • KimJ
          • Norman Beer

            Oops

          • Dr. Catfish

            If you were actually smart enough to get into University you should know what the fuck Plagerism is… All reputible educational facilities have an honor code, and what you just said IN YOUR OWN WORDS ABOVE is an admission of dishonesty and stealing. Please seek professional help, because the one you are lying to the most is yourself.
            You can be inspired by what you see and what you read, but you need to give credit to those who created what inspired you. I think you are smart enough to know that. SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP! You live in a country where you can get it easily.

          • peaceetc

            People who reference text cite their sources — provide links, say where they found it, and put that reference text in quotes or block quotes. You lifted entire blog posts written by other people, never once letting on it was not you who wrote it or you who took the photos. I want to understand, Lucie, but this doesn’t make sense. If you wanted it to be just for you, then why have it online, or at least password-protected? How does pretending to be someone you aren’t help you in any way at all?

            Are you familiar with the twelve steps recovering alcoholics use when they attend Alcoholics Anonymous? One of the major tenets is to own what they’ve done and apologize directly to the people they have hurt. From what I understand (as an outsider to the program), this serves two purposes — it provides ownership to the person responsible, so they can learn from it and move on, and it also lets the hurt parties know the alcoholic is finally acknowledging they have hurt them and has provided them validation.

            I bring this up because it seems to me your continued denials over your actions and that anyone should be upset over them is hurting not only them but it’s also you, as well. You know in your heart your actions are wrong. Your repeated faking of your own death is a huge thing, too. If it’s attention you seek, then you’ve found it. But I can’t imagine this is feeling very good for you, or that any of it has. It may have served some sort of short term need inside of you, but considering it keeps happening, you must know it isn’t really doing what you want it to do.

            The only person who can truly help you heal is you. Others can help and provide guidance, but ultimately it is up to you. I sincerely hope you will see this whole thing as an opportunity to live in truth instead of lies, instead of that fantasy world you’ve built. It’s going to hurt, but you’re hurting already, and you’re hurting others. It may sound cliched, but things do get better, but you have to make that happen.

          • doncalifornia

            Hey Lucie, how about YOU stop this now. Lucie, you are disgusting. You have a problem, great. A lot of people do. You are dealing with it in the wrong way. An awful way. You are stealing others’ creative work. You are encouraging and causing other people to disparage the people you have stolen from, by casting doubt on the claims of others – rightful claims – that you are stealing their photos and making up stories about the models and the situations. Seriously, JERK, figure out a way to heal without tearing up other people. Why am I calling you a jerk? Because you are a jerk. I appreciate that you have been dealing with a medical/mental issue for a very long time. I do NOT appreciate that you think ripping off the creativity and hard work of other people is OK because of your illness. Why do you keep coming here to leave comments as if only we could just understand your issue, we would be alright with you stealing others’ work and fraudulently presenting it as your own. I for one am NOT ok with how you have chosen to deal with your problem. You are hurting other people. You are allowing your supporters to hurt other people in your name. How in the world could this possibly be of help to you? This, in the name of healing? Just knock it off already. I would have some sympathy for you under almost any other circumstances, however you are making it impossible.Stop stealing and faking and hurting other people. There is NO WAY deep down that you think this is even remotely acceptable. Take photographs and post them. Write words, in your own voice, and post them. Stop screwing over other people.

          • Joseph Philbert

            How hard would it be to write about your own struggles and experiences, I mean this is what “normal” people do when they actually went through it. Write about that and that alone! Do not copy from others…
            I honestly think you have no concept of the wrong you have done here. Dont worry I will remind you … btw this will never stop. (well not until you admit to your wrong doings)

      • Helena

        I didn’t even consider when I looked at the blog that anything other than the photos would be stolen. Then when I found the recipes were plagiarised as well I thought that would be it. I’m glad I didn’t look into it any further. The amount of theft and the sensitive nature of the posts that were stolen is incredible. I think it’s fair to say that no person in their right mind does this.

        • LookAtStuff

          I hope no one is upset that I looked! This has really been a strange day…

          • Helena

            Hopefully now this has all come out, Lucie will be forced to confront her issues and get help.

          • peaceetc

            No, I think it was necessary. Sad, but necessary.

    • Photo Stealers

      It’s really disturbing and I almost don’t want to source anything else but in the same frame of mind I do because the people she stole from have a right to know this woman is taking their images and/or words and creating an entirely new reality based on them. Who knows if she’d turn on them at any moment like the other original artists?

    • peaceetc

      And that’s why I (Celine) like you, Melinda. You care, and that says a lot.

      • Melinda Potter

        I like you quite a lot too Celine, group ((hug)) Kumbaya my lord kumbaya (sorry, I couldn’t resist. Too much seriousness I suppose)

  • Fernando García

    By the way, a little thing more…

    When I researched in her web the first time, I saw that she is (or was) member of the ‘aipp’ ( http://www.aipp.com.au/ ), a institute of professionals photographers.

    I emailed them to report the behavior of Lucie and the ‘aipp’ logo in her web has dissapeared (or, at least, I don’t see it) but I don’t know if they banned her from ‘aipp’… Maybe they must see this post, guys.

  • Guest

    This freckle faced child is stunning. I tried to read the crazy drama below and I keep getting lost in the photos she stole. Lucie has good taste.

  • Hi, people

    I just wanted to show to all of you some of the wonders than Lucie and some of her friends said about me and my sister in twitter when I told her followers she was a thief.

    Thank you, guys, for all this support. You have really helped me solving all this madness. Thank you all from the heart

    • Joseph Philbert

      Thats it? Nothing else? SMH

    • Guest

      Sorry, my boyfriend just told me you can see the images. It will take me a second!

      • Photo Stealers

        You can if you refresh 🙂

    • LookAtStuff

      Hi Cristina, your photos are lovely! I’m sorry you are having to deal with this.

    • LookAtStuff

      Man, she sure gets hacked a lot doesn’t she? *rollseyes*

    • LookAtStuff

      Who are these hackers who have all this time to hack into people’s computers, mess around with images, post them, write up the stories, advertise, spam groups, add filters/crop photos and post comments/attack people? You’d think they’d just concentrate on themselves so they could make some money/attract attention. And why do they disappear and never hack the person again?

      • Marc W.

        I can see it now… some pimple faced teenager sitting in his parents basement.

        “Haha, I just uploaded someone else’s photos and blog text to this person’s website, Flickr, tumblr, their professional business website, and Facebook. *pushes up glasses and snorts* OMG, this is going to funny! Watch them get called out on PhotoStealers. *snort*

        • LookAtStuff

          Best. Hacking. Ever!

    • Melinda Potter

      Cristina Hoch,
      I know you had already come here and explained how you were treated, but seeing the screen shots, really pushes it home. I’m so glad that at least now you have validation. (((Hugs))) to you, and please don’t let what has happened stop you from creating and SHARING your work with the world. It deserves to be seen

    • Helena

      I think it’s about time you received an apology, not only from Lucie, but from her friends on Twitter too. Unbelievable.

      • Justin Case

        Helena, I’m pretty sure at least some of those ‘friends’ are just more of Lucie’s delusions.

        • Helena

          At this point I wouldn’t be at all surprised. I’ve never seen anything like this before.

        • Marc W.

          Yeah, her way of apologizing.

    • Anna

      Christina, I’m so sorry I doubted you when you messaged me on Twitter a while back. I was one of the suckers who fell for her stories…

      • Marc W.

        IP check in aisle 1.

        • Photo Stealers

          She’s legit.

    • captain-confuzzled

      Cristina, I’m so sorry that you’ve had to go through this. It must feel very violating to have your photos and your family used in such a way, and then to be attacked when you ask for it to be removed. I hope that the posting here on this site will help a little bit. Thank you for sharing what happened to you, it helps others who may read these posts to see what damage it really does when photo stealers do what they do.

    • Joseph Philbert

      Oh wow … Show no mercy

    • Joseph Philbert

      Makes want to twitter each one … Smh

      • Helena

        Do it! I don’t think Lucie is going to alert them to her indiscretion.

    • Joseph Philbert

      Ok just checked… most of them if not all have removed the post supporting her and or calling you a liar. Guess they believe you now and rater not apologize …smh

  • semi

    Münchausen by Internet disorder… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchausen_by_Internet

    • peaceetc

      I had no idea that had a name. It makes sense, though.

    • LookAtStuff

      This is actually, in a roundabout way, how I discovered Photo Stealers. If anyone wants to read about someone who REALLY went down the rabbit hole, look up Emily Dirr.

      • Justin Case

        that is all just completely, totally, over-the-top, bat-shit insane. I feel like I’ve taken the red pill. I really thought that people who stole other people’s work were low, but they are total amateurs compared to this.

        • LookAtStuff

          Yeah I am way more familiar with MBI than I am photo theft, but it is … fascinating isn’t the right word is it? At any rate, 10 years and 80+ fb profiles is definitely another level of crazy.

          • Justin Case

            wow. I hate you Lindsay11. I am now so deep into this that I am actually convinced that YOU are Lucie and you have concocted this entire madness just to get me to say something compromising….
            (check out the comments section here, it’s … http://becauseilive.hubpages.com/hub/Munchausen_by_Internet

          • Lindsay11

            hahahaha! I know! That’s why I changed from a generic name to my actual name, I was all paranoid people would think I was a sock puppet! For the record I have a feeling Corey has already checked my ip and discovered I am from California. If she hasn’t she can feel free to confirm that I am not Lucie if any one is seriously concerned. 🙂

          • Justin Case

            totally joking. But yeah, those comments made me realize just how boring and ordinary my life actually is.

          • Lindsay11

            Yeah it’s amazing and now all I want to do is read about that person in those comments! lol If you ever get bored and want more MBI personalities to read about hit me up. I guess… I guess it’s become a hobby of mine. Maybe I should write a book!

          • Lindsay11

            omg those comments!

      • Melinda Potter

        I read about Emily when you posted this. I was WOWed, but I also thought you were WAY off target with it. Now reading everything that transpired last night and this morning… Damn! Right on the money. And to think.. She just would have been your run of the mill photo thief, if she had just obliged the original artists instead of lashing out. Not very smart… Or just what she wanted???

        • LookAtStuff

          haha I am not way off base yay! 😉 And yes, this is what I keep saying to myself, “I bet she wishes she had apologized and removed those photos!”

  • Photo Stealers

    I’ve updated with a few more sources for her Journey Through Meadows blog. It’s actually quite depressing to do so I had to stop for a bit.

    • Helena

      I can’t even look. I was so angry yesterday but now I just feel… numb. I don’t really know what to think.

  • Anna

    Just found the exif data for a photo she apparently took of her new bathroom that she says she painted with teardrops 2 weeks ago… Look closely at the exif data – why would anyone do that?!

    • Helena

      The whole post was plagiarised. I can only assume that no friends or family read her blog so would see the bathroom in question.

  • Marc W.

    New Flickr account created May 2014.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/collectinglightphotography/

    • peaceetc

      Wow. I hope at least those photos are hers. But creating new accounts isn’t going to change anything.

      • Stephen Cotterell

        Here is a twist!
        I found a blog inspired by Lucie Elizabeth http://theperfectpearpair.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/inspired-by-lucie-elizabeth.html
        after trying to find out who created this photograph on her new flickr account
        https://www.flickr.com/photos/collectinglightphotography/14149892085/

        • Lucie Elizabeth

          I created it.

          • Stephen Cotterell

            I’m very impressed with your timing and the bokeh – I can see how it was lit but am struggling to work out which lens it might be. Do you recall what it was?

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            It was taken with an olympus OM-1 50mm lens

          • Wojciech

            How about apologising to Cristina Hoch??

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            above

          • Just a Girl

            HAHAHA You need to contact Cristina… hows about doing it thru Twitter publicly in front of your immature friends since you attacked her that way and called her a liar.

          • Helena

            The best way to get all this to stop, is to make a public post on your blog, explaining the situation, and apologising to Cristina, Aurelian Buttin, Brittney Borowski, Lana Isabella, Kurt Von, Sarah Yates (A house in the hills), and all the other people you stole photographs and blog posts from. If you can give some explanation as to WHY you did what you did, and why you subsequently called all these people thieves and frauds, then all the better. Then share that post with your friends so they can see the truth too.

            You say you’re not a bad person, so you must have felt the weight of guilt and remorse from attacking people you knew you had stolen from. The action above will be very uncomfortable for you, but then when you emerge on the other side, at least you’ll know you’re not living a lie and you will have told your side of the story.

          • Justin Case

            “Im sorry to Christina Hoch and her boyfriend who Ive upset and wish her all the best”

            that is NOT an apology, it’s just insulting. Grow up. Do the right thing.

            You accused her of stealing from YOU. And you got your friends to go along with it! And you can’t just take it back with “I’m sorry I’ve upset you.” You lied and created an entire fantasy which involved a real living 10-year-old girl and put it out there in public. That is where a REAL apology belongs.

          • Marc W.

            Or was it a Nikon FM2? Or Nikon FM3A? Or Mamiya 645?

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            Fuck you. I have a Nikon FM2 also. And a Mamiya 645 is a medium format.

            Look. Ive had my fair share of issues and because of those issues Ive done my fair share of awful things. I apologise for ALL of those things. The things you are digging into right now were brought up when they happened years ago and were DEALT with by the people involved so play investigators and detectives all you like and have fun with it. The things in my life at present were done meaning no harm to anyone. I began photography three years ago as a way to heal from my anorexia. I built a website and a personal blog as a way to heal and by focusing my eyes on images that INSPIRED me and woke up everyday hoping to create something similar instead of focusing on hospitals and disease (and no, Im not looking for sympathy, Im telling you like it is). Im sorry to Christina Hoch and her boyfriend who Ive upset and wish her all the best and whoever else I have upset, like I said, Ive made a mistake and really meant no harm by it. Now, please stop judging me, harassing me, delving into my life, my supposed mental health issues and my online accounts.

            Thank you.

          • captain-confuzzled

            why in the world Lucie, would you post that letter?

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            because I was accused of being a liar above. Many of you are claiming I have ‘munchausen’ but this is just proof that none of you know half of what is going on/what has gone on in my life or what/how many medical problems I have (NO! Im not looking for sympathy!), so please don’t tell me I have ‘munchausen’. Non of you on here are doctors and non of you know me personally. Yes I have done wrong. I didn’t mean any harm by it, and I am not a compulsive liar, just somebody that has made their fair share of mistakes and has learned the hard way.

          • Just a Girl

            The Munchhausen is about faking your own death…multiple times. better read the link. It fits.
            All that document proves is you had some tests done and your thyroid came back wonky. Its not proof of anything else.

          • captain-confuzzled

            okay Lucie, you win. At least speaking for me, I wish you well and that you have the strength and courage to do the right thing going forward in your journey, and make amends to those you have wronged. Many of us struggle with extremely difficult challenges in our lives, and most do not take the path of hurtfulness that you have chosen. It is easy to see why you lash out at others, your pain exudes from every word, but it just makes me sad and I truly wish for you a heart filled with love instead of pain. There are many who would go to great lengths to support you in your journey if you allowed it from a place of the heart, rather than deception. But that is up to you. Your story of pain is too close to some of my own wounds, so I cannot ache for you anymore. The price you ask is just too high.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            Out of every comment Ive read on here, this is the only one that brought me to tears. Thank you. Its really appreciated. x

          • doncalifornia

            You need to stop stealing and lying. I don’t know exactly how it is you are going to replace your pain with love, but lying and stealing and hurting other people by accusing them of stealing from you, and so on, are not the way. Good luck going forward. If you don’t make a sincere effort to contact each person from whom you’ve stolen work (Cristina Hoch, Kurt Von…), and apologize for real, without excuses, then you’re not moving in the right direction.

          • Just a Girl

            Hey Lucie Dont forget Lana. you accused her of stealing her own photo when you were posting as Amber,
            https://www.flickr.com/photos/lanaisabella/8234887894/

          • Justin Case

            I’m sorry Lucie, but you are still in denial. You are lying to us – that is clear, but who cares, we’re just faceless strangers – but worse you are likely lying to the few people who could help you.

            These current issues – stealing photographs and blog posts and an entire lifestyle is not a proper ‘way to heal.’

            You didn’t just take a few pictures and then feel bad when the original photographers found out. You ACTIVELY attacked them (including having someone lose access to the rights to post his own video.) And you also dragged groups of your ‘friends’ and ‘followers’ into your deceit.

            You need help, Lucie. You need to find some real friends, maybe even the ones who you have lied to and tried to hide all this from, but you need someone who can help you out of this mess. All these rationalizations and deflections will not help you get better.

            Just stop it all now.

          • Helena

            Unfortunately Lucie, from the evidence above and in the comments there is no doubt whatsoever that you are a liar. Not only did you steal from others but you publicly attacked them for calling you out. That’s not a victimless crime and you must have known exactly what you were doing and how it appeared. I think you just thought that you would never get caught.

            If you had just admitted fault from the start and made amends with the photographers from whom you stole, we never would have even noticed the plagiarism on your blog and people wouldn’t have dug down into your past online experiences.

            Why you did what you did, we’ll never know, that is 100% on you, but the pattern of behaviour seems to repeat itself again and again and again, and you need to break it! I hope you are under the care of a good mental health team, who you can talk to openly and honestly about this, and if not, please go to your doctor and ask for more help. No one here wishes you any harm Lucie, we just want you to break this cycle of abusive and hurtful behaviour towards others, because you are hurting others, and I’m sure that’s not the way you want to live your life.

          • Not a compulsive liar? You’ve ‘died’ at least 3 times online, have stolen photos from many photographers, continue to claim you created work you haven’t: https://www.flickr.com/photos/yourownmistakes/ http://tinyurl.com/Lucie-stole

            People on here have tried many times to help, but you continue to build the house of lies. Time to stop lying, stealing, playing the victim, and move on with your life. Preferably not in our profession.

          • Helena

            I do think/hope that Lucie is trying to put things right now. She replied above with the steps she’s taken so far.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            Fuck you. I have a Nikon FM2 also. And a Mamiya 645 is a medium format.

            Look. Ive had my fair share of issues and because of those issues Ive done my fair share of awful things. I apologise for ALL of those things. The things you are digging into right now were brought up when they happened years ago and were DEALT with by the people involved so play investigators and detectives all you like and have fun with it. The things in my life at present were done meaning no harm to anyone. I began photography three years ago as a way to heal from my anorexia. I built a website and a personal blog as a way to heal and by focusing my eyes on images that INSPIRED me and woke up everyday hoping to create something similar instead of focusing on hospitals and disease (and no, Im not looking for sympathy, Im telling you like it is). Im sorry to Christina Hoch and her boyfriend who Ive upset and wish her all the best and whoever else I have upset, like I said, Ive made a mistake and really meant no harm by it. Now, please stop judging me, harassing me, delving into my life, my supposed mental health issues and my online accounts.

            Thank you.

          • Just a Girl

            Well Lucie- ya cant use the Thyroid issues for sympathy! Its not cancer and its not deadly. If it was I wouldn’t have spoke with 2 Family members today who have had it for over half of my life and that’s a long time!. But nice try.

          • Helena

            Ditto. My friend just had her cancerous thyroid removed. She’s just gone home to her boyfriend and son yesterday after having surgery last week.

          • The problem Lucie is would you have apologized and dealt with this with the people you’ve stolen from if we HADN’T investigated and outed you here? No, you wouldn;t … even now, you don;t sound sorry you did it, you sound sorry you were caught.

          • Marc W.

            Well, good morning to you too!

            But why post photos into multiple groups that, obviously don’t belong. ie. Photos taken with Olympus Nikon and Mamiya groups?

            Also, you didn’t apologize to me or my fellow moderator.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            Theres a whole set. And the other image is the girl (my friend) and me last christmas.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Finally your ACTUAL WORK … funny how that works!

          • Wojciech

            Wow, so you say you actually created something?

          • Justin Case

            Well, Lucie, it’s a step in the right direction, but I think it really won’t fix the underlying issue.

            I urge you to read the posts here by your friend Anna and by Cristina Hoch and her boyfriend Fernando García to understand that this isn’t just about you getting caught, this actually affects other people and their emotions as well. It won’t be easy, but you really should make the effort.

            Other than Anna, no one here knows you, so we don’t know what it is you are struggling with or going through. But the things that you have posted on your blogs and website suggest that you have some deep issues that need to be addressed before you can get beyond all the damage to your reputation and the hurt to others it has caused.

            You certainly seem intelligent enough to know that what you did was wrong, but I think your moral compass has somehow completely lost it’s bearings. Stealing other peoples’ images without permission is theft. Claiming them as yours is fraud. Making up stories about the people in them and how they were made is (if you believe them) delusional and the signs of mental illness. If you are aware that they are fiction then it is just callous and an assault on the people who actually lived those stories and events.

            I imagine that you must be getting a lot of unwanted attention right now and some of the attacks likely feel unkind. Just remember that that’s what it took to get your attention. It is obvious that other people have tried to bring this up before and you have ignored it, denied it and hidden from it. You have even lied directly when confronted. No one likes to be attacked or have their life examined under a microscope, but sometimes that’s what it takes.

            You seem to have taken the first step. Please, please go all the way now and fix the damage done.

          • peaceetc

            If that’s true, then you have real talent, Lucie. Don’t waste it by continuing to live a lie.

          • Joseph Philbert

            WORD….. I now recognize her work … no reason to steal and pretend.

          • Just a Girl

            If you really did this you have some talent! What a shame that you dont use it for good instead of this other milarky that’s on here!

          • Amazing that this is where you’ll jump in and comment. All the other allegations and questions for clarification and you manage to keep your lying mouth closed. Seriously, you’re f’ing pathetic. I could care less how shit your life is.. people like you make me believe in karma.

          • Highly doubtful that you created it, seeing as one of the other images you ‘created’ on that blog is a widely distributed stock photo: http://tinyurl.com/Lucie-stole And another is by a Flickr user, https://www.flickr.com/photos/yourownmistakes/

          • Justin Case

            wow, Bob I did a search last week on that photo (the film negatives) and came up empty… how did you find it? keyword search?

          • Hi Justin, That one I found through Google image search, it didn’t show up on TinEye.

          • Helena

            All the photos on that post were stock/stolen, but that was before Lucie was outed. However, I haven’t been able to find any of pictures from Lucie’s Flickr account online, so I’d be inclined to believe that she did actually create the one above.

          • Lindsay11

            All the photos including that one above with the glitter (I guess that’s what it is?) and the hand was stolen too? Cause that’s definitely on her flickr. https://www.flickr.com/photos/collectinglightphotography/14149892085/ posted 11/8/12 (for you I guess that’s 8/11/12 eh? 😉

          • Helena

            http://theperfectpearpair.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/inspired-by-lucie-elizabeth.html <— The top 5 on this aren't Lucie's. I assume the 6th is either a selfie or friend taking the pic, but never had the bottom one come up on any search I've done, so gave benefit of the doubt. She included it in her new Flickr, so assumed (knowing how everyone here would jump on it), that those are her work.

          • Justin Case

            really odd. Even now, a google search only brings up blogs and tumblr sites for that image.
            I also thought those images looked both a little too similar but not all the same. Other images from the series lead all over the place but nothing was definitive. Good catch.

          • Lindsay11

            Same as Justin, I’ve been all over Lucie’s stuff and never had those show up. Good job, bob 😉

          • Marc W.

            Also, what photo you linked with TinyURL, where did Lucie post that?

    • Joseph Philbert

      RE-BRANDING HAS BEGUN

  • KimJ

    Holy shite!!! I have been following PS for a while and always just read the comments, but this time, shite, I am lost for words. This really has gone too far. Wow, the more I read the more my jaw drops. This is just insane.
    The new Flikr account that was opened, are those her images?

    • Helena

      Yes I think they are. Which is positive I guess.

  • Anna

    Lucie I just don’t get it, how does plagiarising someone’s bathroom decorating blog post and pictures help you heal? Surely actually doing up your bathroom would be quite therapeutic instead of pretending to? Is it all a facade you want people to believe is your life? Your blog isnt just for you, I see you share your journey through meadows blog posts on facebook all the time… I’m just tryinh to understand the girl I thought I was friends with. You’re a nice person, and you take good photos, so please don’t feel like you need to copy other people’s lives.

    • Anna

      I’ve had no reply from Lucie, but she has deleted me as a friend on Facebook. That’s that, then.

      • Helena

        I can’t say I’m that surprised. She will delete anyone who doesn’t give unwavering support so that she can keep up the lies.

      • Norman Beer

        Sad, but perhaps for the best.

      • Joseph Philbert

        She blocked me lol …

        • Lucie Elizabeth

          I blocked you for harassment.

          • Justin Case

            You can call it harassment, but if Joesph hadn’t gone to the trouble of finding the video above and contacting it’s true author, Kurt would still be blocked from using it.
            I would call that a little bit of justice.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Of course … All I did was send you a message that you were famous and you should come clean 🙂

          • Marc W.

            She blocked me on Flickr too for posting a link in the comments to the original photographer for one of her photos.

  • Wojciech
    • Joseph Philbert

      Good thing

    • Yeah, that was me got it down.
      Kudos to bloglovin for acting quickly on my query to them. :
      “Hi,

      I have removed the blog from Bloglovin.
      Best Regards,

      Johanna Carlberg, bloglovin’

  • Lisa Devlin

    I run a photography training school in the UK and once a year we have a
    big event involving workshops from several well known photographers.. I
    was contacted by Lucie in the run up to the last one saying that she
    wanted to attend some classes but couldn’t as she was having an
    operation on a tumor. She asked if she could obtain all the
    presentations from the classes she fancied instead.. I told her that
    although I wished her well in her recovery the notes were not available
    and would only be for those who attended and paid. I said that she would
    be welcome to subscribe to our online training in the meantime and that
    I hoped to see her at our next event. Despite this she then contacted
    several of the speakers and asked them the same thing.. We all felt very
    sorry for her but at the same time alarm bells were ringing for me. I’m
    very sad to read about all of this, as it appears Lucie has a lot of
    troubles and I hope she is getting appropriate help. I work incredibly
    hard to run my business and am very glad that on this occasion I did not
    just give some of it away.

    • Helena

      Lucky, as it’s impossible to say what Lucie would have subsequently done with the content bearing in mind her plagiarism on her blog. It’s hard to give benefit of the doubt considering her actions and response to being caught.

    • Wojciech

      She probably wanted to do her own classes based on your material. And a tumour?
      What will be next, she already had anorexia, which she died from, apparently a tumour…
      This is just beyond me. I am so happy it all went out.

      • Helena
        • LookAtStuff

          Yeah she was on that forum too, I forgot to post it yesterday in the complete mess of things!

        • LookAtStuff

          So far she’s had a tumor, CF, anorexia and… there was one more thing I can’t remember atm.

          • Helena

            Leukaemia?

          • Helena

            http://www.recoveryourlife.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170320&page=11 This too. Lots of hacking and police being involved allegedly. Muchausens by Internet sounds very likely.

          • LookAtStuff

            hahah yeah that forum has my favorite comment!

            Lucie, I was devastated to hear of your passing and I’m so glad you are alive. But please can you explain to us what has happened? If this is a hacking, do you know who is behind it? Why have you ‘died’ of Leukemia and Cystic Fibrosis in recent years, possibly among other ‘deaths’? Please help me out of my confusion here.

            She “didnt want to explain how it happened.” haha And you’re right, it was Leukemia.

          • Helena

            Here’s another few posts. Another death announcement and her subsequent banning from the forum.

            http://www.recoveryourlife.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23055
            http://www.recoveryourlife.com/forum/showthread.php?t=171454

          • Melinda Potter

            Did anyone else read and notice that there were a few on the recover forum (the thread announcing her death, and her “hacking” miraculous “she’s alive”) that implied that fake deaths happen there quite a lot? Wow! I had no idea people did this so regularly that they had to come up with a name for it. Much nicer name than I would have called this crap. Hey! Wake up people who attempt to harm others using the Internet. Guess what? The Internet isn’t as anonymous as you think, duh!

          • Justin Case

            Let’s not forget, this is a 23 year-old girl with serious problems. That does not excuse ANY of the behavior documented here. Trust me, I’m quite disgusted by this behavior, but I’ve known girls like Lucie (and I say ‘girls’ because that’s what she is… something is stunted in her emotional growth which allows her to behave this way).

            Most likely the only real attention she’s received in the past has been when she was suffering, so she continues to invent new personalities who are always damaged goods. Even here, we are feeding this self-image, allowing her to tell herself and her few deluded followers that she’s the victim, that it’s all a big mistake and we are all just trying to hurt her.

            I don’t want to make things worse. But without family or real friends who truly care, she’s not going to get any better. And she’s just going to go off and do it all over again.

          • Melinda Potter

            I’m with you Justin. I think that’s why it makes me so sad. I just had no idea anything like this existed. I had no idea being a fan of photostealers would teach me so much about mental health. I feel like I need to go and get a degree in psychology before I ever comment here again

          • Justin Case

            It’s all a learning experience. Three months ago I had no idea that so many people could live a professional lie and be so OK living as frauds. Last week I found out that I’m a bully and a member of a cult. And yesterday, I learned all about Munchausen by proxy.

          • LookAtStuff

            I wonder what you will learn tomorrow! Have you been abducted by aliens? hahaha

          • Justin Case

            that’s when I find out I’m actually a clone.

          • Melinda Potter

            Omg I really hope a photostealer uses this one in the future! “Ever since I got anally probed by aliens, I have blackouts. During these blackouts I do things like google for images and download from Pinterest and pretend I took photos that I didn’t take. It’s annoying as all get out, but completely out of my control. So sorry.” Our bingo card needs a new square.

          • LookAtStuff

            I’ve been running into this since at least 1998. I think it depends on the places on the internet you frequent. Places where people come together for support will have a lot of it. Gaming forums and Second Life also have an amazing amount! I moderated a mommy forum that had a girl who remind me of Lucie, only she was into sob stories about miscarriage and abuse.

            The first person, in 1998, that opened my eyes to this told us all about the surgery she was about to go into and then her “roommate” came to tell us she had died on the operating table. And this was on a chat room for a game!

            So anyways… that’s all off topic and sorry.

          • Joseph Philbert

            0_0!

          • Helena

            This is the problem, if she had done the right thing in the first place, no one would have dug down further. Now it’s all laid bare here in the comments for people to see!

          • LookAtStuff

            That’s exactly what I was thinking! I feel so sick knowing she sat and read those heartbreaking posts and felt all warm and happy to get attention by hurting people. She really does need help. Really.

          • Helena

            “I’m glad that the truth is out. Lucie has been on a deleting spree. She has ‘died’ a couple of times – from Leukemia and from Cystic Fibrosis among other causes, she’s been active in forums for Cystic Fibrosis claiming to be end stage, medical students even ran a marathon in her memory (and an article was published about it) when she died from luekemia – http://www.hyms.ac.uk/news/Lucie.asp
            I’m sorry for the people who were misled and hurt. A lot of very vulnerable people have been hurt by Lucie. I have been worried as she’s deleted everything she can – and just moved her blogs to new sites. All signs show she is beginning the whole cycle again. So please, take this as a warning – take everything online with a grain of salt and be careful”

            This was in one of the forum posts. I think bearing in mind the Flickr has already been changed it’s start of a new cycle.

          • LookAtStuff

            hah you and I are literally on the same page. I was trying to find that marathon, have you had any luck?

          • Helena

            I imagine it’s been deleted if it was discovered that she faked her own death. Imagine the embarrassment.

          • Helena

            Yes, and I think that’s why she stole and plagiarised other people’s media, because of the attention she got for it. I imagine that she never expected to be caught, and now that she has, it’s like the implosion after each one of her fake deaths. She doesn’t want to talk about it, because explaining why she did shows her up to be a sick, thoughtless and heartless individual, and she wants to ignore the negative attention as much as possible and focus solely on the “we <3 u Lucie" bullshit.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Omg that is funny as shit.. And sad

          • Helena

            What is so horrific is she did this on message boards for various illnesses. People who were fragile and vulnerable and ill themselves. So cruel.

          • Just a Girl

            They started a Facebook grief page for her. THAT just annoys the hell out of me.

          • LookAtStuff

            Also I’m really really amused that google autocorrects “lucie blue” into “lucie blue faked death”.

          • Helena

            I noticed that too. Weird that isn’t it. Must be a common search.

          • Norman Beer

            Interesting that she has been banned from that page…

          • Helena

            For faking her own death on multiple occasions as far as they’re concerned.

          • LookAtStuff

            She has! But she supposedly has a new name there.

          • LookAtStuff

            Looks like we need to add MS!

      • Anna

        She told me last week she had remitting multiple sclerosis, and that’s why she stood me up for a photoshoot without a single word… I believed her at the time, and the sad thing is, she is now the boy who cried wolf – it may well be true that she’s sick but no one will ever believe anything she says anymore!

        • Helena

          She is definitely sick, but perhaps not with MS, CF, leukaemia or tumours. I hope someone can instigate medical intervention and get her some psychiatric help.

    • LookAtStuff

      Your intuition deserves a pat on the back! Just curious, was this last year?

      • Lisa Devlin

        Beginning of this year…

    • Lucie Elizabeth

      Proof

      • Belle

        I don’t particularly care about your health issues. Clearly you are suffering, and I truly hope you get help. The fact remains you stole from multiple people. That being said, your name being spelled two different ways (Lucie/Lucy) on a medical document does send up red flags.

      • Just a Girl

        Interesting dates, considering this is 2014. That tumor was sooo bad they took almost 2 years to remove it. Just go away Lucie. You arent helping yourself at all.

        • Anna

          It says benign lump. This means she felt a lump, went to the doctor and they said there’s nothing to worry about. That’s what benign lump means to me, and the internet. But I’m not a doctor. Also, it kind of makes me sick using cancer as an excuse for anything. My aunt died Saturday from cancer so this is very upsetting for me to see someone using it like this.

          • peaceetc

            I’m so sorry about your aunt, Anna.

      • Norman Beer

        Lucie,
        The letter means nada, nothing, nix. What’s been redacted? A response to your request for pointless tests? Besides, HOW does this justify everything you’ve done?

        • peaceetc

          I can read part of it — her real name is in header, doctors names have been crossed out, and near the bottom, it says “this is nothing for you to worry about as you do not display any symptoms of being…” and I think the next word has something to do with “lymphoma” but I’m not sure. The rest is illegible to me. Of course, I have no idea what is in that block of black.

  • LookAtStuff

    I’m just reposting this lovely image so Lucie Elizabeth can see her words, in case she has forgotten that YES she hurt someone and YES she needs to do something about it. Lucie, how would you feel if you were Cristina and you knew that people were attacking you over a photo someone STOLE FROM YOU? You are not the victim Lucie Elizabeth, dear.

    Are you going to inform celery_cupcakes or Little_Becki or Cesca_Beswick or proteinologist about your lies and slander? I hope they feel the need to apologize to Cristina too.

    http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1012/1704/original.jpg

    • LookAtStuff

      Also I don’t know where to put this but it amused me. Lucie Elizabeth maybe you can explain. Why did you scrub off the “my” from “my favorite hand soap”. Was it not really your favorite hand soap? Or is it “a” favorite hand soap? Oh no wait, is it because it’s now your mum’s favorite soap? This is a fascinating question to me, please answer.

      ETA Also, can you explain how you finished this project an entire hour earlier than the person who actually did it?

      http://i0.wp.com/stopstealingphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/collectinglight_0049.jpg

    • Helena

      Little_Bekki is not interested in believing anyone but Lucie in spite of the evidence against her.

      • KimJ

        I think her twitter account is closed. I couldn’t find her this afternoon.
        And yes Bekki will blindly follow her unless she is also Bekki

        • LookAtStuff

          I know twitter about as well as I know tumblr, which is to say not at all, but are we sure Bekki is Bekki and not Lucie?

          • Helena

            Unfortunately not at all.

          • KimJ

            Do you have a link? Unless she has blocked me?

      • Joseph Philbert

        Yea now she has deleted her posts

        • Helena

          I can still see the ones from March, and the last tweet was in response to being asked to apologise to Cristina Hoch to which she said “no, leave me alone.” Same attitude as Lucie by the looks of it.

          • peaceetc

            Same words Lucie has used more than once, in fact. Interesting.

          • LookAtStuff

            Yeah they pop up easily, all I had to do was google “Little_Bekki”.

      • LookAtStuff

        In fact, it looks like Little_Bekki is a photo thief too. When I did a reverse image search on this:

        https://twitter.com/Little_Bekki/status/465130618838593536/photo/1

        I got this:

        In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) atChillingEffects.org.

    • Fernando García

      The complete sequence of screenshots of the Lucie’s TL:

      • LookAtStuff

        Thank you so much for posting this. I don’t understand why she posted the same thing over and over and over and only changed one name?

    • Justin Case

      her friend’s are in denial or feeling so ashamed themselves that they fell for this that they are all going silent. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and say that they were unwilling accomplices. This just adds to the damage done through Lucie’s deceipt (oh, sorry, I mean ‘attempt at healing’)

  • Joseph Philbert

    She has a Instagram account.
    http://instagram.com/collectinglight

  • Justin Case

    from a blog about hoaxes on the internet:
    “One of the most difficult aspects of Munchausen by Internet and other factitious disorders is that its sufferers have a very difficult time stopping their behavior. Once exposed by a support group they’ve posted in or on a blog like this one, the typical response by the hoaxer is to delete everything… and spring up on a different forum, support blog or Facebook page.”
    (http://www.warriorelihoax.com/2013/05/10/updates-on-carissa-hads-and-jessica-friend/)

    • BullShite

      Lawsuits are pretty good at curbing Munchausen by Internet….. I really want to see her smacked down for this. These people never “learn” otherwise, and they never stop. They just find other lies, and hurt other people, because there is no real punishment for them.

  • Fernando García

    We sincerely hope that she is lying and she is completely healthy. In spite of everything, Cristina and I don’t want anything to happen to her, obviously

    But her behavior with us… :/

    • Justin Case

      I agree completely Fernando. I just hope she gets some help, but obviously, it’s a lot deeper than just someone stealing photos and lying about them.
      I hope some of those people who so easily fell for her lies will actually come forward now and apologize to Cristina and Maria.

    • Helena

      I don’t think anyone wants her to come to any harm, but we do want her to make amends for what she has done, and get some help so she can break this cycle of abusive and cruel behaviour towards other people.

      You and Cristina are obviously good people for wishing the best for her after everything she put you through.

  • Just a Girl

    I THINK the Scrabble profile is her other profile on the Recover Your Life profile. Im VERY hesitant to post it cause I’m not 100% sure and while these people use screen names there’s just something inside of me that feels wrong about putting their private lives out here. IF its not her I think I stumbled upon another thief who had already got caught. Also if it is her, looking back at some of her postings under this name is just another corner on the “this girl really needs some help” card! Shes definitely created another life with her interests and personal story. I found this yesterday and I wish I could remember how I found it..somewhow it was tied into my searches on Lucie.
    http://www.recoveryourlife.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158088

    • peaceetc

      I signed up for that board so I could try a quote reply to see the URLs of the Flickr stuff, but it’s just direct links to images themselves and not the photo pages. I tried Googling some of them, and nothing comes up. Here is one, if anyone can figure out how to connect it with a Flickr account (ignore the actual image, obviously, since the URL doesn’t resolve to an actual photo anymore): http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6230/6318948600_847bc7e467_b.jpg

      • Helena

        We need one of the many e-detectives who is investigating this site to come forward. 😉

    • LookAtStuff

      It’s not PROOF, but she sure has a lot of the same typing styles that Lucie uses.

  • Joseph Philbert

    She uploaded a VIMEO video and I a pretty sure its not her work… based on the model, video quality and music. Since she has never done anything remotely like this before. I downloaded the music and trying to reverse search it, but I can use some help since finding the source of a video is quite difficult.

    • Just a Girl

      Its on You Tube also

    • Just a Girl

      I THINK its Red by Mad Atlantic

    • captain-confuzzled

      Soundhound identified it as Fumando Por La Traquia by Rodrigo Diaz

      • peaceetc

        iTunes has a clip of that song up, and I don’t think it’s the same one, but I could certainly be wrong. https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/fumando-por-la-traquia/id388013770

      • Just a Girl

        Yeah, that’s what Shazam told me the first time too but I got Red a couple of different times but cant seem to find a clip for it. The link I found for it on Spotify doesn’t play.

      • captain-confuzzled

        I had the same experience, when I tried Soundhound in mid clip, it didn’t find anything, so having same ???

        • Joseph Philbert

          Yea I cant find the soundtrack for that name either…

      • Joseph Philbert

        Thanks that helps

    • captain-confuzzled

      Here’s some metadata from the downloaded Vimeo video. I have no idea if any of this is useful lol, but here it is
      General
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      Format : MPEG-4
      Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
      Codec ID : mp42
      File size : 9.54 MiB
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      Overall bit rate mode : Variable
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      Encoded date : UTC 2014-03-22 12:22:56
      Tagged date : UTC 2014-03-22 12:22:56

      Video
      ID : 1
      Format : AVC
      Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
      Format profile : High@L3.1
      Format settings, CABAC : Yes
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      Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
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      Bit rate : 1 225 Kbps
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      Display aspect ratio : 16:9
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      Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
      Bit depth : 8 bits
      Scan type : Progressive
      Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.044
      Stream size : 8.41 MiB (88%)
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      Audio
      ID : 2
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    • semi

      Figures…

      • Melinda Potter

        I noticed that too

      • Joel A

        I chuckled at this.

    • captain-confuzzled

      I believe I’ve found the original!

      • Joseph Philbert

        YEP that is RIGHT “captain” its his style of photography all right and his model/client.
        http://kurtvon.com/

      • Joseph Philbert

        Here it is in the flesh so to speak.
        Olga from Adam Models

        This guy is big time he can seriously sue her ass…. and yes I emailed him.

      • peaceetc

        So she took Kurt Von’s video, slapped her own URL at the end, and called it hers. Lucie, if you’re reading this — you can’t tell us Kurt Von stole your video since his was uploaded months before yours, or that you were hacked and somebody else altered and uploaded the video to your Vimeo account.

        So why? What did you feel the need to take some random fashion video and present it as your own? Nothing else I’ve seen under your name is even remotely like this. I just don’t get it.

        • captain-confuzzled

          and..she deliberately removed his logo info from the end. smh

          • peaceetc

            Yep. That’s intentional, and not just a case of putting it somewhere as “part of her recovery.” No, she wanted people to believe that video was hers.

        • BullShite

          Has anyone told Kurt Von? I wonder if he’d sue….

          • peaceetc

            Joseph said he wrote to him.

      • peaceetc

        By the way, cap, great job finding the video. I looked all over the place and came up with nothing.

        • captain-confuzzled

          thanks, used a really super high tech approach, LOL. did screenshots during the video hoping there might be stills from the session, but lo and behold got lucky and the video popped up with one of the first reverse searches. Wish I knew a good way to source video. Oh well, more stuff to learn about, and I love the ‘research’ part!

          • Joseph Philbert

            You did a freaking GREAT job… I was doing the same thing but I had to go meet a client for a scheduled shoot. This cult … I mean umm “community ROCKS 🙂

  • Just a Girl

    Her My Space
    https://myspace.com/every_mileamemory
    Sparkle and Fade Flickr (not sure if this has been posted. No photos here)
    https://www.flickr.com/people/43164184@N07/

    • peaceetc

      She certainly has a lot of Flickr accounts. That’s the third one, I think.

      • Just a Girl

        She seems to have many personalities!

        • peaceetc

          I find the graphic she has up on that account pretty ironic, considering her own behavior: https://www.flickr.com/photos/43164184@N07/7494329434/

          • Joseph Philbert

            I will post under this image LOL

          • LookAtStuff

            My guess is people had actually stopped reblogging her and this was a way to get back into the conversation. I could be wrong …

          • Justin Case

            wonder where she stole that from.

          • Justin Case

            Read the comments on that image post. Enlightening.

          • LookAtStuff

            hahaha good ol Joseph posted there!

    • Melinda Potter

      Wow! Im having a hard time not using the C word. Did you notice? Am I right? Some of her listed favorite photos are used on her Instagram account???

      • Helena

        Seriously?!

        • Melinda Potter

          I have to double check. I’m looking for her Instagram now, but they sure look familiar

      • Joseph Philbert

        PLEASE PLEASE dont use the “C” word… the last time that happened we were called a cult and a hate group. 😛

        • Justin Case

          I thought ‘cult’ WAS the ‘c’ word.

          • Joseph Philbert

            HAHAHAHAHAHH!

          • Just a Girl

            Hahaha!!!

        • Joel A

          Its the UK, C word is absolutely fine there 🙂

      • Melinda Potter

        ok I was mistaken. Whew!

        • Just a Girl

          Oh I’m sure she’s where ever you were looking! Why not? She’s everywhere else!

          • LookAtStuff

            haha! Yesterday I gave her the benefit of the doubt on her redecorating blog posts and they were stolen as well. She is gonna have to work really really hard to get anyone to trust her ever again.

          • Just a Girl

            Yesterday I was dumbstruck! Today I’m just trying to not to be sick! Seriously! Who does something like this!

    • Justin Case
  • wendy

    I can’t help but think that she’s getting a kick out of all the attention here and the attempts to figure her out. It’s feeding something in her and she’s obviously reading the comments.

    • Just a Girl

      I personally think that’s ok cause her house of cards has crumbled no matter what. Now shes just a person of curiosity.. While some of her friends still back her, in the backs of their minds, they will question anything she says or does from now on. They just don’t want to admit it but that’s just human nature once suspicion is put in play. They will never know if shes being on honest with her photography or words unless they see her take the photo or live the experience she relates and the life she presents will all be in question. ALL of that could be alleviated with some honesty NOW from her.

    • Helena

      Possibly, but at the moment, it’s a relatively private matter. Realistically, in her world, she hasn’t been publicly shamed. I wonder how much she would be feeding off it if it was posted to the Spotted: Brighton page on facebook or a link to this page sent to the Argus or the Brighton and Hove independant?

      • Big Ron

        I just don’t think she is going to be publicly shamed. From everything I can see, she’s not a professional photographer. I don’t see that she has clients that pay her for portrait shoots or whatever. She has friends who model for her, but I think that’s about it. And if that’s the case, then there’s no public shaming because there’s no “public” for her. In the photography world, she’s anonymous.

        • LookAtStuff

          But it may be difficult for her to rebrand/fake her death again with all this information in one place. That’s important because she has hurt so many people!

          • Norman Beer

            When she actually dies people won’t believe it…

          • peaceetc

            That is the sad truth. She’s cried wolf way too many times.

          • Justin Case

            I’m surprised you guys are just coming around to that conclusion. That’s what gets my blood boiling every time one of these photostealing liars plays the suicide card. Some day someone may actually be in so deep that they do try to self-harm, but after all the lies, deceit and fakes, we will be too immune to believe it.

          • peaceetc

            Well, to be fair, Lucie has (in my completely non-medically train opinion) severe problems, much deeper than most of the people outed on here seem to go. Her fantasy world is so strong in her mind, she is even willing to actively go after those who don’t play into it the way she thinks it should happen. To go after Kurt Von like she did, making him out to be the bad guy so she could continue to pretend… that’s so much worse than I’d initially thought.

            So, yes, it did take me a bit to get there. Each time a new posting goes up, I still want to believe that the person doing the stealing is capable of being reached, and that they can learn from their mistakes, that they can somehow be reached and something good can come out of all of this.

          • Just a Girl

            Wow. That brings a bit of reality to the whole scene. Thats really sad to think that.

        • Helena

          Yes but it would certainly make sure that the only people who ever model for her in the future are her friends and family.

    • LEt her feed on it … as long as potential clients see this and are warned. That and if it helps photographers sue her, even better.

      • Justin Case

        She didn’t have any clients, I’m quite sure of that. She has ONE story in a friend’s internet magazine, and those are the same images as on her newest Flickr account, so they’re probably hers.

        What is much more damaging is what she has done to Cristina and Kurt and Lana and the rest. She actively tried to deny them their moral and legal rights as creators of their own images.

        Now you can find images out on the web (Tumblr, Pinterest, Blogspot, etc) where the images of these photographers don’t link back to the original creators, they instead list ‘Collecting Light’ as the source. That’s where the damage lies.

    • doncalifornia

      We’re not “attempting” to figure her out. We’ve pegged her. She is a thief and a liar and she is trying to use her mental illness as a wedge to allow her to continue her crap. She is also destructive to others with zero shame or guilt or empathy.

      • LookAtStuff

        And I don’t think Lucie Elizabeth has ever come across such a persistent and stubborn group as photo stealers. She may not know it now, but the minute she said those terrible things to Cristina (how dare you hack my flickr and steal from me you fraud) and we got involved … well, her life is going to be a lot different from now on. It’s going to be amazingly difficult for her to fake her death and start over this time.

        Lucie, look at this for what it really is, an intervention, a fresh start. Take this moment and learn from it. Take this, step back, reevaluate, get some help. When you can post on the internet without stealing or lying I have a feeling that a lot of people will be really happy to see your photography and hear your story.

      • Helena

        And as far as she’s concerned it’s all contained and she’s suffering nothing for it. She updated her blog this morning like everything was fine and normal. No remorse or shame.

  • VSB

    Flickr is a thief’s free-for-all and after having several images stolen, I made my photostream private. This practice of stealing people’s work, passing it off as the thief’s creation and then vilifying the real photographer is not only disgusting but alarming.

    • This is horrible, she did this with my youtube video. Now I have a strike against me… Can’t wait to take her down.

      • VSB

        Wait! She took your work and YOU have the strike against you? How is that possible? Or fair?

        • Yeah can you believe that?? My guess is she downloaded my video and then took my logo out, put hers in, uploaded to youtube and then contacted youtube saying mine was infringing. It’s unbelievable someone would go to that extent.

          • Norman Beer

            It’s called severe mental illness. I’m not giving her an excuse! Just seeing it for what it could be.

  • Joseph Philbert

    Kurt Von
    Hey Joseph,
    Wow, this is just crazy!!! Youtube put a copyright strike against me recently saying my work was someone else’s and I remember seeing her name show up in the email. Thanks for bringing this to my attention!!I can’t believe there are people who would do this!!
    I’ll make sure action is taken against her.
    Cheers,
    Kurt

    • peaceetc

      SHE went after HIM? Holy crap. I can’t even wrap my brain around that.

      • I know right … she needs to be sued into oblivion!

    • Norman Beer

      Wow! She may have entered the snake pit!

    • peaceetc

      I’m glad you wrote to him, Joseph. Maybe some real consequences to her actions will make her wake up. Any sympathy I had for her is pretty much gone now.

    • KimJ

      Glad he knows about it. It seems like she is the kind of person who won’t stop. I think everybody is going to have to keep a close eye on her.

    • LookAtStuff

      Good job Joseph! I do, sadly, believe she would do this.

    • Thanks again Joe for letting me know about this. Hopefully this puts an end to her for good. I went ahead and issued a counter complaint against her which basically handles everything through the law.

      She’s already removed the video and apologies to me in email so basically proof she knows that she did was wrong. And I also have all the original files used to create the video saved 🙂

  • She actually did this to me!! One of my followers notified me that she was using a fashion video I had produced as her own. Here is her youtube video that she posted (It’s my video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xGRv4sWy0Q

    I actually received a copyright notification from youtube which resulted in a strike against my account. She even blocked messaging on youtube so i can’t even message her about the issue so I sent her a message on her website. If she doesn’t lift the strike against me I will be moving ahead with youtube to get my content back up.

    What a lowlife she is!!

    • peaceetc

      I wouldn’t bother waiting. She has a long history of this sort of behavior, and steadfastly refuses to acknowledge it. I’m sorry this happened to you, and I hope you can get things straightened out with YouTube. Lucie Elizabeth is not presently acquainted with the real world, so expecting her compliance is futile. Good luck.

      • captain-confuzzled

        “not presently acquainted with the real world” bwahahahahahaha!!! love it!

      • Just a Girl

        HAHAHAHAHA Thats awesome! And seems to be so accurate! 🙁

    • KimJ

      I agree, sort it out with Youtube. Lucie isn’t quite right in the head.

    • Norman Beer

      As the others have said, take it up directly with YouTube. Don’t even bother with her.

    • LookAtStuff

      I’m… *counts* fifthing this! Don’t wait!

    • peaceetc

      The video now says it’s been removed by the user. That’s progress. I hope YouTube will reinstate your video on your own channel, Kurt.

    • KimJ

      Glad to see that the video is gone, but it says that the video was “removed by user” I still think you should take legal action against her.

      Lucie so glad you are reading these comments, but please, you need to apologize.

    • I sent her a contact request through her website form and she emailed me back saying that she was trying to learn how to use adobe premiere and modified my video and didn’t mean to infringe on it.

      Oh yeah it’s so hard to take my logo out and put yours in!! LMAO

      She also had no idea about her issuing a infringement to my acct. I copied her on the email and told her I was handling everything through youtube.

      She’s Done…

      • peaceetc

        I’m honestly surprised she responded. But I’m not surprised she just offered up excuses and denials. If she’d just wanted to play with Premiere, then why upload it to two separate video services? And I don’t believe she didn’t know about the YouTube issue. There is far too much evidence against her already that shows she is a serial liar.

      • BullShite

        Just please don’t fall for her “oh I’m ill so my illegal activities are not wrong bullshit”. She’s aware enough to know right from wrong, despite living several different fantasy worlds, and fitting Munchausen by Internet to a “T”. These people reoffend, and reoffend until the house really comes crashing down. She will just wait and then start again, creating a new “life”, pretending some other illness, and pretending to be someone else.

        • KimJ

          That is why we should all keep an eye on her

          • Helena

            Absolutely. I’d wager this is going to happen over and over again.

          • LookAtStuff

            I can see myself in 10 years, grandchild on my knee, “well grandchild, lets hook up to the virtual reality internet and see what Lucie Elizabeth has done today. Did I ever tell you the story about Lucie Elizabeth Blue Owen? I have? Every morning? Oh well, it’s good for you to know right from wrong so I’m going to tell you the story again!”

          • KimJ

            psml – oh god I hope not, but somehow it will be true!

      • LookAtStuff

        Thank you for doing this!

      • SUE HER! It’s the only way she’ll understand!

  • Just a Girl

    LinkedIn- Nothing there unless I just cant see it. Good to have in case it changes
    http://tinyurl.com/kpbx4dp

  • Helena

    Wow, all this talk of cults, and I think Lucie has her own. Just been blocked by Little_Bekki after being told to get a life. Crying into my cornflakes. 😉

    • KimJ

      haha so was I 🙂 Boo hoo hoo LOL

    • KimJ

      Hahaha so did I boo hoo hoo LOL

    • Just a Girl

      I’m not Twitter savvy but I included you guys in my post on there… I think LOL

    • Joseph Philbert

      Milk not needed lol

      • Helena

        I’m sorry, I lied. I didn’t have cornflakes. They were actually crunchy nut cornflakes. I had them with milk, and I wasn’t crying.

        Wow, apologising is easy! 😛

        • Marc W.

          But doesn’t it feel much better lying and getting attention?

    • Marc W.
      • Helena

        Nope. Bekah was horrified. She added me on Twitter too.

        • Marc W.

          K. Thanks. Just wondering. I’m getting confused with all the names and personalities here. 😉

  • Stephen Cotterell
    • Norman Beer

      Exactly

  • Bekah Palmer

    This is 100% shocking. Does anyone know if she is actually based in Brighton? She’s part of the Mini Click group on Facebook, is it worth posting this in there at all?

  • LookAtStuff

    Lucie Elizabeth has a new blog post up today http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/valleys-to-live-by/anthropologie/

    • LookAtStuff

      Also, she’s not removed anything from her website that I can see. http://collectinglight.com/JTM/ The first link is her plagiarized about page.

    • Helena

      It’s the ability to carry on like none of this is happening that I find shocking. Although on a plus side, she has made it REALLY EASY for us to spot when she’s pinched photos of food now we can see what her plates etc look like.

      • KimJ

        I don’t think that she will ever stop stealing and will continue to carry on as though nothing has happened.

        • Helena

          She certainly doesn’t feel any sense of remorse or guilt from her behaviour. She still hasn’t apologised directly to any of the people she stole from. At least when my 3 year old refuses to apologise I know he feels guilt and remorse.

      • LookAtStuff

        The poor person in me is sitting here wondering how she can afford $10-20 a plate. And a lot of plates.

        • Helena

          I don’t imagine she pays for them. I think she lives with her parents.

          • KimJ

            That or she plays the poor me card and people buy it for her.

          • Anna

            To be fair, whenever I went for coffee with her she never let me pay for her, she’s very nice in person (despite a few lies) – I just wish she had the courage to be herself.

          • Helena

            I don’t understand how you can be friends with her and she just deletes you from Facebook and offers no explanation. What kind of person does that?

          • LookAtStuff

            I think in Lucie’s mind (and Anna please don’t be offended, you have very obviously done nothing wrong) she might think that she’s been betrayed because Anna won’t keep swallowing all the lies. So in Lucie’s mind, she has to lash out and erase the person who doesn’t believe in Lucie’s fantasy anymore. Obviously just an armchair diagnoses but it’s my guess. I don’t believe Lucie will ever think she is in the wrong.

          • Helena

            It makes me feel very sad for Anna that in refusing to give unwavering support against vast and damning evidence, she was essentially cut out. I hope she can mend her friendship as she obviously likes Lucie despite everything.

          • LookAtStuff

            “unwavering support against vast and damning evidence” is just such an excellent line. Say it out loud a few times! Say it in the voice of that movie trailer guy! 😀

          • Helena

            It needs Morgan Freeman for full effect. Lol!

          • LookAtStuff

            Anna, I just wanted to say that I’m very sorry you’ve been swept up in this. You seem like a very caring person and you’re in a weird spot of knowing the person we’re exposing. That is hard and I’m so sorry.

            If you want to remain friends with Lucie (and that is obviously entirely up to you) do you have any way of contacting her that she might read? I was thinking you might want to send her a little note. Maybe tell her, for example, how much you enjoyed your coffee dates together and the qualities in her that you have seen firsthand and appreciate. Let her know you will be there for her but before you can become friends again she needs to face the truth, get some help, make amends and start fresh and new.

            Now that is up to you what you do,advice on the internet is just that. And probably, she’s going to delete it anyways.

          • Anna

            I have already emailed her – I feel very sad that this has happened, albeit by her own hand. Lucie you’re a lovely person and despite this post going on for ages and getting deeper and deeper, these people will surely back you up and support you should you decide you want to be part of the photography community in an open and honest way.

          • LookAtStuff

            I wasn’t the first to say it but I’ll repeat it. Lucie is talented and I really do want to read HER story.

            Hang in there Anna.

          • Anna

            I want to hear it too. I think she has a lot to offer, and I’d love to see it.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            Ive apologised to Kurt via email and also ti Cristina, my last blog post was a way of just carrying on in an honest way, yet there are SO many people on here that seem to be enjoying this whole thing, how the hell am I supposed to show everyone what I supposedly have to offer?

          • LookAtStuff

            A public apology would be nice. You smeared Cristina’s name up and down twitter, if not more places.

          • Helena

            How about by wiping the slate clean and apologising publicly, in front of the friends you smeared the other photographers in front of? YOU called Cristina a thief and a fraud while claiming you took photos of her sister. Can you imagine the feeling of violation? Saying “I’m sorry I upset Cristina” is like saying “I’m sorry I got caught.”

            No one is enjoying this Lucie. No one wants this page to even be necessary.

          • peaceetc

            True that. Why do you think we are doing this, Lucie? It’s not for grins and giggles? There are far more enjoyable ways to spend our time, and going after some young lady in England is not one of them. But someone has to stand up for integrity and honesty, which is why we are here.

          • LookAtStuff

            Even stranger that her mum doesn’t seem to notice anything going on. Like, I’d have been wondering who’s bathroom she had redecorated if I saw that blog. I guess she hides it all from them.

          • Helena

            I would guess so. If my parents found out I’d been doing something like this they’d have me sectioned under the mental health act, as would my husband.

    • KimJ

      Cool, you can leave comments 🙂

      • LookAtStuff

        Well you can, but I doubt they would stay there long. I guess if we all leave comments she’d have a hard time keeping up… maybe.

        • KimJ

          Couldn’t resist.

          • LookAtStuff

            Well, either she’s moderating or she already deleted it or I can’t see it.

            If I were to comment though:
            “What is your latest addiction?”
            This week? Exposing Lucie Elizabeth as a fraud.

          • KimJ

            Gone – hehehe all I asked her to do was to apologize.

          • Justin Case

            HEY! I was agonna use that one!

      • Those appear to be actually her pictures (a quick check didn’t reveal any stolen images) so not sure why we would bother commenting there.

        • LookAtStuff

          While I’m not going to comment, Lucie has not shown any lack of remorse or hint that she knows what she’s done is wrong. So for her to just put up a new bright and cheery post without ever apologizing is a little bit galling.

          • Joseph Philbert

            The same way she pours her heart it what she writes… she is capable of great things on her own. Shame she shows no remorse or make any apologies.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            I HAVE made apolgies. I apologised to Kurt via email and I’ve also apologised to Cristina multiple times on here.

          • LookAtStuff

            Public apology and remove the stolen images. That’s a start.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            The images have been removed from everywhere?

          • LookAtStuff

            Well I shouldn’t have to do your work for you but how about his page where you lifted someone else’s recipe and then you stole her description as well.http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/category/flapjacks/

            or this page where you stole someone’s anorexia story? http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/about/

          • Melinda Potter

            She did use a question mark at the end of her sentence

          • LookAtStuff

            LOL!

          • LookAtStuff

            You know what’s odd? I saw at least a few posts typing until I posted those links. None of those posts ever appeared. I know Disqus is wonky sometimes but I do think Lucie went deleting.

          • Justin Case

            Disqus seriously is wonky. And it double posts. And it lists wrong names and you can’t see images.

            Just page refresh. Usually sorts itself.

          • LookAtStuff

            Well, I’m probably wrong, but at the time she was doing her “I apologized” round, I saw quite a few “someone is typing” or whatever and those never ever appeared even after I refreshed, so I assumed she saw that we weren’t going to instantly “see the light” and stopped repeating herself. She went and made a sockpuppet instead.

          • LookAtStuff

            Oh Lucie, now all of a sudden your website needs a password protection? PLEASE just delete it. C’mon Lucie, fun is up and game is over.

            Nope, I guess I was wrong, i can still get in. Delete it.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            If you can still get in then you’ll know they’re gone. fucking moron

          • peaceetc

            Seriously? That’s your response? Classy.

          • Norman Beer

            Really? This is how you want this to go down?

          • LookAtStuff

            Lucie dear, if I can still get in why can I see them?

          • LookAtStuff

            I mean, beyond being vulgar, your comment really doesn’t make any sense. I’m in ur websitez seein’ ur theft!

          • Helena

            Wow. You really are a vile, hateful person.

          • LookAtStuff

            Here’s another one just for everyone playing along. http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/eating-clean/fresh-food-haul-plant-based-eating-on-a-budget/ is plagarized from http://www.straightupfood.com/blog/2012/06/30/8-tips-for-easier-plant-based-meals/

            Badly in fact, 7 and 8 say the same thing:

            7. Invest In a Few Decent Kitchen Tools – Using the right tools, in any effort, can make all the difference in the final product as well as helping enhance your enjoyment while creating it. My three most used kitchen tools are: my 8-inch chef’s knife, my crock pot, and my Vita-Mix (high speed blender). These items don’t need to be costly, but they should be of good quality. My chef’s knife was under £10, my large crock pot was £35, and before I invested in a Vita-Mix, my very first blender cost no more than £50. I use these three things on a daily basis. Three smaller items that I’ve found to be very useful are: my lemon press which I use frequently when juicing lemons for salads, my rubber garlic peeler – super quick and handy when making soups or adding garlic to stir-frys, and lastly my ‘Y’ vegetable peeler that works wonders on anything from potatoes, to carrots and butternut squash (and even my fingers…)

            (Rolled Oats, Bee pollen, Goji Berries)

            8. Invest In a Few Decent Kitchen Tools – Using the right tools, in any effort, can make all the difference in the final product as well as helping enhance your enjoyment while creating it. My three most used kitchen tools are: my 8-inch chef’s knife, my crock pot, and my Vita-Mix (high speed blender). These items don’t need to be costly, but they should be of good quality. My chef’s knife was under £10, my large crock pot was £35, and before I invested in a Vita-Mix, my very first blender cost no more than £50. I use these three things on a daily basis. Three smaller told that I’ve found to be very useful are: my lemon press which I use frequently when juicing lemons for salads, my rubber garlic peeler – super quick and handy when making soups or adding garlic to stir-frys, and lastly my ‘Y’ vegetable peeler that works wonders on anything from potatoes, to carrots and butternut squash (and even my fingers…)

          • Bekah Palmer

            Is it possible to request to get her entire website taken down by the hosting company?

          • peaceetc

            Probably not. They usually only remove content if it is requested by the actual copyright holder via a DMCA takedown request. If they get enough of those, then they might remove the whole thing. It depends on the web host.

          • Bekah Palmer

            I’m just looking into who hosts it

          • Bekah Palmer

            United Hosting IPv4 Assignment apparently

          • Photo Stealers

            It’s actually Web Fusion in the UK

          • LookAtStuff

            I guess you just hide them and not deleted them right dear? But I can still see them. And the funniest part of that is this: I am not some google expert. In fact I’m one of the newest people here! And I still caught you. So, Lucie dear, c’mon, delete and come clean. You look ridiculous now.

          • Helena

            It’s been eye opening. It’s clear that the only person Lucie cares about is Lucie. No empathy or remorse, just purely self centred. Disgusting.

          • LookAtStuff

            Yep, she might be stubborn but… this group is a lot of people. If someone tires another person will step forward. Interesting to see what she does next. I hope delete and apologize but no one is holding their breath for that.

          • Helena

            She hasn’t got the balls to do it. She’s a coward.

          • Bekah Palmer

            Love, is it really necessary to use that kind of language? Take a look in the mirror. Sorry to be harsh but why use those names when you are the only one doing things wrong?

          • LookAtStuff

            Lucie, I have to step away for a bit but before I go, this should be your first step. http://journeysthroughmeadows.com/about/ Delete the anorexia story you stole (and any one can google the first paragraph and find the original) and Lucie, write your own story. This is an excellent first step toward your recovery and I do wish you well in that journey.

          • peaceetc

            Did you really apologize? You denied knowing about the copyright claim on his video, but your name was on the stuff he received. It had to have come from you. And please don’t say someone hacked your account. We aren’t buying it. Lucie, half apologies don’t count. You have to go all the way, or no one is going to believe you.

            Own this whole damned thing. You screwed over a lot of people, and you have a lot answer for.

          • LookAtStuff

            Yeah and I’d like to hear from Cristina about this apology.

          • KimJ

            You need to make a public apology and on behalf of your friends for what you (and they) said to Christina. You need to post on your blog that you stole images and that you are sorry.

          • KimJ

            You have shown no remorse and you carry on like nothing has happened.

          • Norman Beer

            Lucie, instead of more BS (like the plate post), how about one that lays out everything that happened?
            ALL of the lies, the attacks, theft, every image and post you stole, the faked deaths and illnesses, etc.
            Then walk away from the internet for at least 30 days. In that time go get help from mental health professionals.
            Harsh? NO, honest and perhaps the only way you will be able to get better as mentioned above.
            Failing to come clean publicly, on all of your blogs, is continuing the lies and deceit and keeps you sick.
            Regarding your letter from the endocrinologist, unless we are able to see the redacted parts (aside from the names), the letter means absolutely nothing. We have no idea if he’s answering you request for more tests despite having told you that all you may need is a change in diet or a routine medication.

          • LookAtStuff

            Wait, what about a letter? I guess I missed that. But I’m not sure what a letter from your doctor has to do with anything Lucie.

          • Norman Beer
          • LookAtStuff

            It’s funny how the doctor spelled her name wrong?
            Also it’s from 2 years ago, it has nothing to do with her being a thief. She needs to see a different doctor for that.

          • Norman Beer

            The name issue is common when someone dictates.

          • LookAtStuff

            Makes sense. I get Lindsey instead of Lindsay all the time and should have thought of that. Thanks.

          • Norman Beer

            The computer generates the header off of the system while the transcriptionist types what’s dictated. They may or may not see the name and if they do may not catch the spelling difference. Then when the doctor gets it back they may not catch it either as they have countless dictations that need signing and mailing.

          • LookAtStuff

            That is one thing Lucie will have my sympathy for, I bet she gets her name spelled wrong on a daily basis.

          • Bekah Palmer

            I thought exactly that. I’m sure its not hard to fake letters like that considering all of the logos are on the website. I’m totally loosing faith in humanity right now

          • LookAtStuff

            Instead of focusing on what Lucie has done, take a look at the amazing people who spend their free time fighting people like her. Look at the people (Joseph and Captain Confuzzeld I think) who looked at the video and managed to take a still frame and reverse image search, track down the original artist and get her theft removed all in the space of a few hours. That is absolutely amazing to me! Or Helena who noticed Lucie was ripping off recipes and photos there too which led to us noticing that Lucie was more than just an average photo thief! Best though, look at Corey and all the very very very hard work she has done in her spare time to run this site. Amazing amazing people.

            PS If I left out anyone’s name I am sorry,I think you are all amazing!

            ETA I may have said amazing one too many times…

          • Helena

            If it wasn’t for Corey and the photo stealers cult… I mean group, this could have gone on indefinitely.

          • Just a Girl

            Koooooolaide!!!! More koooooooolaide!

          • LookAtStuff

            I like red… or purple!

          • Helena

            Can I have wine? And preferably non-alcoholic? I’m gestating over here. 😛

          • LookAtStuff

            I’m not so I’ll drink your share. Is that how that works?

          • peaceetc

            Well said. I think the people on here have been pretty amazing, too.

          • Bekah Palmer

            I feel everyone has been amazing. I’ve been following this since the first moment it was posted in Brighton Photographers Forum and Dade and Stephen also did an amazing job, I just wish it hadn’t come to exposing this many lies, its very sad

          • peaceetc

            It’s from 2012 and seems irrelevant to everything, anyway.

          • Helena

            This is the same course of action suggested repeatedly since this post went live. I won’t hold my breath waiting for it to happen.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Why not make a blog post (you seem to know how) and publicly apologize. Not ONLY to the incalculable artists you stole from but also your fans … That way the healing process can begin.

          • KimJ

            You publicly called out Christina so you need to publicly apologize

          • Just a Girl

            I’m curious as to why you won’t apologize publically on Twitter where you and you friends attacked Cristina? Also, why do you keep leaving Lana out of your apology? You accused her of stealing her own photo on this site! Lucie, you have talent that could go far. Why oh why are you keeping this going? There are people here who would gladly help you make that talent better but not as long as you are being a bratty little snit!

    • Joseph Philbert

      Its sad that my first action is reverse checking the images and text she wrote. facepalm

      • LookAtStuff

        Sad but also my first reaction. And we’re not the only ones I’m sure.

  • peaceetc

    Lucie, if you’re reading this (and I think you probably are… I doubt you can resist), you had a chance here. You could have seen this as an opportunity to change, to learn, to grow. But no. Instead you’ve swept it aside in your mind so you could go post about some kitschy plates. Because what’s more important — truly being healthy or having people think you are?

    So, Lucie, you just keep on tagging absolutely everything you do with ‘anorexia recovery’ (even a post about plates of all things so everyone knows you are in pain and should be pitied. You are, after all, the only one in the world who has problems and everyone else should never, ever forget that. You just keep shutting out everyone who cares enough to see through your BS to try to help you. You just keep holding on to your labels and suffering.

    Your life will remain static. You will continue to exist but you will not truly live. You will continue to hurt and take advantage of others’s good natures and sympathies. But you could truly live, Lucie. You could live and be strong and healthy and show the world who you truly are. And that nugget of truth will remain stuck in the back of your brain, and no matter how much you try to bury it, it will be there, gnawing at you. You’ve claimed in the past to have cancer, CF, and whatever else. But this is what it’s really all about — that stuff going on in your head.

    I sincerely hope you will choose life — real life, filled with truth and love — instead of this half-life existence you currently lead. Nobody here is going to be your enabler. I don’t think you understand what really happened when this post about you went up. I don’t think you realize how far this will reach… maybe, someday, it will reach where it’s truly needed, and that’s inside of you. And that you will use it to get better.

    But I doubt it. Because it’s all on you, Lucie, and you aren’t interested. I hope those plates in your post make you happy when you’ve driven every single other person out there away.

    • Norman Beer

      Excellent!

      • peaceetc

        Thank you, Norman. I just wish it would help, but I don’t hold any illusions that it will.

        • Norman Beer

          Yes, PLEASE don’t hold your breath!

        • Justin Case

          It’s worth it just to say it. I still have some crazy faith in the human race, despite all evidence to the contrary. And there is lots of truth in your words above that even us jaded haters can learn from. Thanks.

  • Wojciech

    Anyone has list of her still working pages, blogs, etc?

  • Sam

    Thank god no one else on here steals any content off the internet…

    Thanks for taking the time to twist the blade everyone, we showed her! Bless this righteous mob.

    • peaceetc

      So you’re saying that because stealing is common, we shouldn’t care? Because that’s just stupid.

      • Bekah Palmer

        Because its clearly Lucie. Jeeeez

        • LookAtStuff

          LOL I will never ever ever understand the people who resort to sockpuppets like the rest of the world is STUPID. Like, we can obviously tell someone who appears out of nowhere to cast stones and change the subject is either the person or a friend. I mean… c’mon!

        • Photo Stealers

          Doesn’t appear to be actually. Just a friend probably trying to help her out.

          • LookAtStuff

            Thanks for clearing that up. I apologizing for jumping to the conclusion that Sam was Lucie but I don’t think anyone can blame me knowing her past.

          • Justin Case

            Since she got caught early on as ‘Amber Fleck,’ Lucie has at least had the courage to post under her own name. I applaud her for that.

          • LookAtStuff

            Oh, I missed this! She had another name besides Lucie Elizabeth Blue Owen?

          • peaceetc

            It was way back near the beginning of the comments section. She posted under ‘Amber’ and ‘Amber Fleck’ about how the police had been called about this, and then again as herself where she mentioned she’d already said the police had been called. So she outed herself as a liar because it wasn’t “her” that wrote that, but “Amber.”

          • Marc W.

            Found this while searching for Lucie Elizabeth Owen:

            http://www.suicidememorialwall.com/searchresults.php?x=8

          • Helena

            So that’s at least 3 times. 2007 & 2011. Are we missing one in 2009?

          • Lindsay11

            I wonder which faked death this was? The cancer? The Leukemia? The CF? MS? Anorexia?

      • LookAtStuff

        Is “everybody does it!” on that bingo card you guys made?

        • Justin Case

          It was, but it was so common it got replaced by something a little more imaginative.

        • Justin Case

          and since you asked, here is Lucie’s card (so far)

          • Helena

            We have a “never claimed they were mine”.

          • Justin Case

            really, I missed that.

          • Helena

            It came after you posted the card I think.

          • Lindsay11

            Bingo!

    • LookAtStuff

      Hi Lucie

    • LookAtStuff

      Here is why it is important to gather information about you Lucie. Here’s a member of a forum where you faked your death stating how much this had hurt her personally.

      If you are reading this Lucie then I hope you feel suitably guilty and ashamed for upsetting and distressing a huge amount of people. I am sure that the attention and strength of feeling evoked gave you a sense of satisfaction and that selfish desire met in an unforgivable way at the cost of others health and well-being should tell you you need help in real life asap. Deal with your issues and don’t f*ck with others in process.

      I am not surprised. I believed it totally to start with but the links posted and the video and others doubts just concrete the very telling phrase ‘no smoke without fire’.

      THIS and people like her make what has recently happened to me even harder to post for support for. It sounds to the outside world inconceivable but sadly it was true and I hate that I actually thought, will someone doubt me? Before I posted I felt anxious. The whole saga has toyed with my emotions, like a lot of people, and has caused me enough distress to compromise my own mental health.

    • Helena

      Hands up if you stole content off the internet and represented it as your own work? No one but Lucie? Okay.

      How about having a youtube video taken down to copyright infringement when you were not in fact the creator of that video? Lucie again? Oh okay.

      How about publicly attacking people whose content you stole and encouraging others to do the same? Are you noticing a pattern here… ?

      • Melinda Potter

        Yes, and wasn’t it Lucie herself saying how “sick” it made her to know that someone was claiming her work? Yes, it was a lie because it was HER that stole the photos, but… She seems to understand how it must feel to her victims.

        • Marc W.

          “She seems to understand how it must feel to her victims.”

          You mean “play the victim”.

          • Melinda Potter

            True

        • Helena

          Lucie couldn’t give a crap about anyone but Lucie as far as I can see. Which is sad, because people obviously care about her. I have no doubt that the minute they so much as doubted her innocence here, like Anna, they would be dropped like a stone because her feelings for others are obviously very superficial.

    • Fernando García

      Are you stupid?

      One thing is to take content without permission, without knowing if it is protected or not (obviously that is wrong) and another take something and say that it’s yours…

      • LookAtStuff

        Fernando, Lucie says she apologized to Cristina, is that true? She still needs to do a public apology and remove most of her site, but if she’s apologized to Cristina that’s a good step. (A real apology, not “I’m sorry you’re upset”)

        • Fernando García

          It’s false, she never said to Cristina something like that, absolutely nothing, it’s a lie

          • LookAtStuff

            Thank you for confirming this, I had a feeling. We are waiting for that almost as much as you and Cristina are.

          • Helena

            Definitely no apology there under Cristina’s post. Only this:

            “I’m sorry to Cristina Hoch and her boyfriend who I’ve upset and wish her all the best and whoever else I’ve upset.”

          • Bekki

            This is my reply because Cristina deciding to tweet everyone who followed Lucie, and I’d rather not be dragged into an online harassment abuse-fest.
            The police are involved, and will be investigating, and that will include seeing Lucie’s original works on her laptop as she has gone to them, and – I’m sure – all of these posts of people around the globe getting excited at being a part of something and patting each other on the back.
            Well, surely you realise this can stop now? If the authorities are involved, you can stop and let them do their job.
            And if you all are convinced that she is a fake and a fraud and a thief etc, then she will be punished for it, and would have set herself up to be punished seen as she has gone to the authorities.
            Just move on.

          • Photo Stealers

            This isn’t a criminal matter so generally the authorities don’t get involved.

          • Bekki

            After everyone shouting about copyright for days on end, you think that this isn’t a criminal matter? Of course it the authorities look into it, if it’s illegal, that’s what they do.. Also, abuse and harassment, even online, is a matter the authorities take seriously, and would be investigated the same as if someone was harassing you in the street or the workplace.

          • Helena

            Yes, and I’m sure Lucie calling someone a fucking moron will go down fabulously.

          • peaceetc

            Lucie (as Amber) stated right after this thing was posted the police were already investigating, so don’t lay the harassment and abuse labels on us. And again, copyright infringement is a civil matter.

          • Photo Stealers

            No, it’s a legal issue.

            The authorities are free to investigate this site for abuse and harassment but they won’t find it here. Just because you don’t like that people are pointing out Lucie’s deceptions doesn’t make it harassment or abuse.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Everyone should take abuse and harassment seriously…
            I just dont think posting comments on stolen images and blogs and spreading the word about someone breaking copyright law as form of harassing or bullying.

          • Helena

            Crime reference number please? I’d like to make a statement and point the police in the direction of this.

          • Helena

            The police are not investigating because Lucie stole the photos. There is NO WAY she has reported this but if so, I would be DELIGHTED to talk them through the copious evidence of Lucie’s copyright infringement. I’m not difficult to track down.

            She stole a video. She stole words. She stole copious amounts of photography. She herself committed harassment, invasion of privacy, fraud. She incited you to abuse and harrass others too. If you continue to believe she is innocent then you are stupid and unable to process the huge amount of proof gathered above and in the comments. Read what’s been written here. You’re a victim of her web of sick lies too.

          • peaceetc

            Bekki (provided you are not Lucie herself), I understand you wanting to defend your friend. But there is so much evidence against her which you don’t seem to comprehend. The police aren’t interested in copyright infringement claims, as this is a civil matter. I strongly suggest you take another look at the entire conversation here. Enabling her delusional behavior is NOT helping her, and in fact is only causing more harm. She needs strong people in her life who will help her face the truth, not people who will let her continue to lie and steal and deceive.

          • peaceetc

            By the way, Bekki, Lucie might have the images on her laptop, but that doesn’t mean she’s the photographer. Does she have the RAW files? The unprocessed images? She claims to shoot film — does she have the negatives? Anybody can download images and claim they took them. It’s going to take a lot more than that as proof.

          • Helena

            Yeah, what about Britney Borowski’s images that Lucie didn’t even bother to strip the EXIF information out of? That’ll look excellent in making her case.

    • Justin Case

      I wasn’t going to post these since there is already SO much evidence, but you brought it on:

      Read these and then come back and edit your ‘self-righteous mob’ label please.

    • Are you serious?

      She took a video off you tube, edited out the original owners info at the end and replaced it with her own info and then …

      SHE FILED A COPYRIGHT VIOLATION CLAIM WITH YOU TUBE AGAINST THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR!!!!

      And that’s ONE example out of a dozen … do I mind someone downloading one of my pictures to use as a background for their desktop … a bit but that doesn’t even compare to someone stealing one of my images and then claiming authorship and displaying and distributing that image all over the internet…

      • Justin Case

        Woah, take a breath Eric, we’ve been here before… Sam is new, he just needs time to read through the 723!!! posts to catch up. (yes, lots of sarcasm, I’m still with you on this).

    • doncalifornia

      People like you, Sam… SMH. She is not fixing anything. She is unwilling to acknowledge the lies and the damage. “Twisting the knife” suggests an attack. This is an outing. it is a public exposure of illegal and unethical behavior. The concerns expressed here are not unwarranted, and until (IF) she comes clean and makes amends, there is no reason whatsoever to remove the presure. So Sam, shut up.

      • Justin Case

        less of an ‘outing’ and more like an ‘intervention’ in this case.
        Sam is the nice cousin who thinks Lucie has gotten the message and doesn’t see why we need to flush the coke down the toilet on the way out.

    • Joseph Philbert

      You must be “Lucie’s” loyal friend.
      Good Luck with that.

  • Melinda Potter

    You know what really bothers me? I read her recent blog post that should have been about how she had deceived so many, and how she is going to turn a new page and start being honest with herself and to others… but instead was about dinnerware. I read it, and it made me want to go antique shopping again. It made me want to buy more beautiful bowls and plates. I have a collection. They are very special to me, but I have never used them to serve. Instead I decorate with them, and some are just stored away, and every once in a while I will just touch them and admire them. I need to start using them. To have a bowl of soup in my favorite beautiful antique bowl never occurred to me. It sounds silly now that I am typing it. Why have I never used these dishes of mine before? Lucie has something to offer. Yes, a post about dinnerware may be slightly less important than her plagiarized about me story, but… it doesn’t make it any less deserving of a read. I rather like her photos too. but, she chooses instead to lie, cheat and steal to garner attention. She has been vile during this whole “outing”. She has hurt so many many people with her behavior, and I’m sure she plans on continuing. She hasn’t even taken all the stolen words and pictures from other’s down. Why?! I just can’t wrap my head around it. And why isn’t someone close to her in her life caring enough to at least try to help her stop? Are they oblivious to what she has been doing? There’s a part of me that wants to ring her neck, and then the other part of me that wants to hug her because she’s obviously very mentally ill and no one but people on the internet give a crap about it. Once again I have to say, please everyone do what you can to get her websites down, and all of her lies, and content that belongs to others off her pages. I say this not to be cruel, but to help make her stop! She HAS to stop.

    • Photo Stealers

      It’s a shame that she’s plagiarized and stolen images because when I dug and found what I believe are her own true words and images, she has a talent there.

      • Justin Case

        Agreed, as it has been pointed out several times already. But like sooooo many before her, scratch the surface of a photo thief and there always seems to be something more troubling underneath.

      • Joseph Philbert

        I second, third, fourth that. This is what pisses me off more is that she is a very eloquent writer. Its not hard for her …

        • doncalifornia

          She should be a novelist. She draws on the reality she sees in others’ lives, bakes it up with with a rich mix of imagination and fancy, and she can write. And clearly, she can make shit up with the best of them.

    • LookAtStuff

      That is very well written and I hope your enjoy your lovely dishes. Lucie, you did something good, wouldn’t you like to do more! And know that it was your images, your words and your heart that really touched someone.

      I am right there with you Melinda, the mom in me wants to hug her, even while she was cursing me out. The other mom part of me is really upset and wants to send her to her room without dinner.

      • Helena

        As a mum, the people I feel sorry for are her parents. I would put money on them knowing nothing about Lucie’s online presence, at least in the last few years, and I imagine they have already been on quite an emotional rollercoaster with her suffering from an eating disorder (which I don’t doubt she did), without all this on top.

        • LookAtStuff

          But, I mean… she takes a LOT of pictures of everything, even her mum. So, I dunno, I guess I’m just wondering if she hasn’t told her mom that she’s posting on the internet? I just can’t even imagine my reaction if I found out one of my children was doing this. Just… wow I would be so disappointed 🙁

          • Helena

            Yeah, exactly, crippling disappointment and I know that I would blame myself too.

            Although, saying that, maybe her mum does read her blog and that’s why she’s so reluctant to make a public apology?

        • peaceetc

          Lucie appears to use her real name online — Lucie Elizabeth Owen — so I have to wonder why her family wouldn’t know. I know not everyone is online, but most people are, and you’d think word would get around.

          • Helena

            Yeah but i can’t imagine that anyone googles her on a daily basis either, so if someone does in 6 months or a year or so, it’ll be that much more of a shock, because these things do have a funny way of coming out in the wash.

          • peaceetc

            Probably not, but she does seem to be at least somewhat active in groups in her area of the globe.

    • doncalifornia

      Right on the nose. Everything about your comment is A+

  • Marc W.
  • Just a Girl

    I was just thinking about how badly Lucie wants everyone to stop delving into her life/online accounts and it got me wondering if there’s a whole bunch more out there! And really, since all she has to do is apologize and get rid of what is still left in order for people to stop also has me wondering if this has turned into a “catch me if you can” game for her. I’m willing to bet that even with whats been found – only the surface of her theft and deceit has been scratched.

    • LookAtStuff

      Oh yeah, I’m certain of it. This may be the only time I’ll be sad my mom is taking me to lunch cause I really want to dig more. lol

      • Helena

        You need to change your name to LookAtStuffInProbingDetail 😛

        • LookAtStuff

          hahaha! Actually, once I have time I am going to change my name to Lindsay, y’know, my name, because after all this I’ve become paranoid that people might somehow think I’m some kinda sock puppet. And it feels weird using everyone’s name and not letting people use mine. So hi, I’m Lindsay! When I get home I’ll try to figure out how to change my name! haha

          • Marc W.

            Hi Lindsay. *claps* Welcome to the cult…er club.

          • Lindsay11

            Hi Marc!

            Hi everyone! My name is Lindsay and I am a photo stealers-aholic!

          • peaceetc

            I’m Celine. Nice to meet you. 😀

          • Lindsay11

            Hi Celine! 😀

    • Justin Case

      I think that is very true. There are at least three things to consider:

      1. When this has happened in the past on sites for at-risk people, the moderators and other posters shut things down to protect those who could be further damaged by the fraud. People also may be hiding things out of embarrassment, since some will defend this behavior until the very end.
      2. Lucie may have been underage when all this began, so there are some legal remedies she could have resorted to to have things removed/hidden.
      3. Much of Lucie’s past has to do with her issues surrounding anorexia nervosa and related disorders. This is quite a hot-button topic on the internet and many websites, service providers and search engines are taking down pages, images and videos related to the issue. This is completely understandable and seeing this stuff disturbs me greatly. It is a horrific sub-culture which in my opinion verges on child-pornography. This may also be why so much information is (thankfully) no longer available.

      There are hints of videos and even reports of a website/blog related to outing ‘Lucie-Blue’ out there someplace, but it’s likely now hidden in places few of us want to go.

      I really feel for Lucie, but letting her walk away with a half-hearted ‘I’m sorry’ just to go off and start all over again really helps no one, Lucie Elizabeth especially.

  • Fernando García

    A few notes (about apologies topic):

    When Cristina’s cousin sent her some emails (some months ago), there she said “apologies for upsetting you” (to her cousin, and that apology…) and said it would delete the photos when she returned from a travel (she said she was on travel, yes…). When her cousin asked her than when she was coming back, she never answered again…

    Also, when the police inspector spoke with her, she refused to delete photos (and you have to be very stupid not to do what a cop says) and she said it was not a crime (yeah, of course)

    • peaceetc

      That’s interesting. She really doesn’t seem to have a clue as to how copyright laws work… or she doesn’t care. Either way, it’s her fault for not getting it, because the laws are there and easily found.

      • doncalifornia

        She doesn’t care.

        • peaceetc

          You might be right. It might take a lawsuit or two for her to realize the consequences of her actions.

    • LookAtStuff

      So silly, “I’m sorry you are upset” is never ever going to be an apology. They even teach this in Kindergarten.

  • Bekah Palmer

    The thing that has just hit me like a sack of bricks is that she also has copies of all of these photos and probably documents of all of the stories she’s stolen from blogs and so on saved somewhere, worrying…much?

    • Justin Case

      it’s still all there on her blog. But so what? She’s already proven that she can just start it all over again… and again… and again. There’s no shortage of images out there to use, and it seems she can always find a few new ‘friends’ out there to love, sweetpea.

      • Bekah Palmer

        This sickens me to the bone. TBH if she’d done this to any of my photos, Brighton is a very small place…

        Her house could quite easily be raided by the police as this is fraud at the end of the day. Very very sad case.

  • Yon
    • Norman Beer

      Unable to see it. Are you able to screen capture it and post that here?

    • Stephen Cotterell

      Thanks for the link (I can’t get in) what is it?

      • Photo Stealers

        More stolen images.

        • Lucie Elizabeth

          Yeah? Bet they’re stolen words too. You’ll be a long time searching the net at this one.

          • Photo Stealers
          • peaceetc

            Boom.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            BOOM.

            Though in what way was I claiming it was mine? Take for instance, Anna is doing a shoot in July at the Holi One Festival and has posted this image on her blog http://www.annapumerphotography.com/im-shooting-brightons-holi-one-festival/

            …she didn’t quote the original artist though she didn’t say she took it either. SO many people do this.

            Sorry, you lose. You are all fucking bullies. And its funny that many of you say you have children. I mean, really? And you spend your days on the internet pulling apart the life of a 23 year old girl you’ve never met from England?

            Now THATS sad. Your poor fucking kids.

          • Photo Stealers

            Bullying ≠ pointing out your lies.

            You didn’t credit the source and the image is on your blog. Therefore, any casual reader would assume that this image is yours.
            Anna should have credited her sources too but that doesn’t really have anything to do with you or your blog.

          • Lucie Elizabeth

            So why not go and harass Anna too and every other photographer/blogger that does this out there? Im sure there are plenty more of them than you have filed already on this site. The main issue here was that I wrongly took other photographers work and put them on my website claiming they were mine as with Kurts video. Those images have now been taken down, as has the video. I have apologised to Cristina wether or not she has read these comments. I have also apologised to Kurt via email. The other things you are trying to harass me for have either been dealt with, are non of your business or are not copyright issues, so go waste your time on someone else.

          • peaceetc

            Lucie, contact Christina and everyone else from whom you stole, apologize, and accept the consequences. They have the legal right to sue you. You might want to consult a lawyer — and if you do, tell the truth. Lying won’t help you, especially since it’s what got you here in the first place.

            And of course there are others out there. But that doesn’t mean this issue isn’t worth pursuing further. You have not owned this, and you sure as heck haven’t shown that you have changed your behavior.

          • Photo Stealers

            Again, it is not harassment. I’m personally not following you all over the internet commenting everywhere. I am posting here, on my blog. I have not posted anything that can be construed as harassment, bullying or whatever the hell else you are calling this. I am pointing out your lack of respect for copyright. You stole images, videos and words from various artists and posted them across many platforms, some of which are still being discovered. You keep claiming that everything has been taken down but it hasn’t.

          • Marc W.

            How do you know Anna isn’t next on Corey’s list? How do you know she’s not already working on that post? This is what this blog does. You can’t auto-magically get everyone at the same time instantly.

          • peaceetc

            What did Anna do, anyway? I don’t remember anything about that.

          • Marc W.

            Looks like this Anne (that Lucie is trying to use to TRY to divert attention to) used a photo on her website that’s probably not her. You know, because two wrongs make a right.

            Anne: http://www.annapumerphotography.com/im-shooting-brightons-holi-one-festival/
            Source?: http://www.brighton-racecourse.co.uk/whats-on/event/holi-one-festival/

            Reverse image search: https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZisqJnvAJPlv4lOnCRNT32tl4JM-m2JHKeB-tts0XqQZyOwhz63vMx-fHWdtaaf8lDMr2Ammrk7pnvlpYg2LTO4BL7H-orubY03viHCcph12JFmkdENM3w0b6c7E_1FMH1eFYp6hAaguhJa78COLK9i-9Lhc5DE3b_1vc6hKjrWfc_1l7D8vMjdGHxbLMnImHjn9wt-N6r2fcSzIQAupWMeslAVW6dT6l0SdahCsjQEvFIzPSkJgGZprgaQ9zbaLq7zewTuiGV0jyKKgkQAsKYTPDwlQX4ktcjcbw348lv1TzRnLJUI-ZVKN_1FcN5xBbqmEMAbfIdZu87C1my7xRRYHJQ39LiDubeXaGv9dj4-vAleZWLsp_18rog16RdquSSkpKxTENHp7cinNMNkIHENsiKz1GLnY9A89yxtI18ebVYITbMuaqOyvctwkDUlHtG7ufzEn4iRcT-QQB8KY6kdlSE8WPz_1GtCeVVxm3w-vmz_19QbzrZse4t-_1idi7MqDZBEWxciZ64zamM2QeYG-vFfmA7ptmBJ-HXGxdrlOXSf2VmzHGXiqvo_1BFOBQq08NwZV1xf-vRF3qIF-5kyTrCIPGMbttAkzAkmv-QDjACGuASmQZxCQSqh9iz_1pi3AftLsjKBF3WgKL_1Eib5MVQ5in3sSHUFr6SXWeowoHDMKDbqvu-ybLtkz59sirg-yx8HpxZLtHxJqh3UYUt-UlKeBmopUak_1SxndETSZJQqUS_13RAHH4YxCSlBLxuYhkwLBRQZuE3rc64Nuy3PlSAfGju0sQn3xQmYHLjCE5WmZXkpQv62d3qK3WyiNyuzd1Vts7pUtS3QNPyeHSL3Yg9PId4SXIAblGzi2bhRcoq4Ppk5kz5qDQSCgjp_1NHDIvzz21kPApDCyV71d9xiKNpg4Y0DxyWVCHwsFkIoeRApvB4msT0-DqWbZVP5hgJfbaucjVw0PXtI3n88PAwt1QBJp3-edWIDEC4EhbtLv6vi21FVmdY1CkvAqmGKXVCFULRQ6XDT48hZQeNjwfArX8BRTYWqUxTixv8THUP_1n_1XLBOT_10O3d9AxFzMcdIWxthZnFLeYV83Ml8Wnnor-tT1pi8PZfV2zifsySPg9UV4WW8cujjN8Ph73AhaAkI8CX_1lWUE9jaGSJ6CPYCk6yOGBmN-I9osDnugeC5M7_1hVgRFlLj-N-qdtNOCRC9ftJ2dONC8N0VIPeJTJbKqWYVsWDs5gXwHA64znbOnkd2SuM9lrLEa7IYO2KlfLBUnJ06d_1uJTMyGvXjpbhMSBL_1a5-yUf6ZQ104tZWZbnT03Bq3-QcRaWhN4yTfU5jF7Cihn1qTl_12tLp15ssK_1Wl_1nfzCb4H6fZ1-AtGTQTXfUt_1xZDnOaWk0E9eemCkreX5lkHNXaqZExqddvWwF3YCtz1cyq8T8yQso1E7Sue564lCbMHQH8nH3JKpfSSN-KlKBcrhnNoUDMUY4W6ZCIPA8f8&safe=active

          • peaceetc

            Thanks, Marc. So it’s just one image? That’s not even a blip on Photo Stealers’ radar. If they went after everyone who stole a single image, then would amount in millions of people.

          • Marc W.

            But, but, but, but, if she can do it, why can’t I?

          • Anna

            Hold up, Holi One’s PR people emailed me the picture and asked me to write an advert for them. See the photo attached with the email from the Holi One person. I did put their website and everything. How on earth has this turned on me?

          • Norman Beer

            Anna,
            You have the proof showing you are OK. Don’t stress! Do NOT let Lucie’s BS get the better of you!

          • Bekah Palmer

            Honestly sweets, don’t worry.

          • peaceetc

            Thanks for explaining, Anna. I couldn’t figure it out, either. Lucie’s trying to deflect and is grasping at straws.

          • Kat Forsyth

            Accusing Anna of anything is just ridiculous! Don’t worry, Anna, we know she’s just trying to get the focus off of her. You don’t need to steal pics, as you take enough lovely ones of your own!

          • Anna

            Aw thanks Kat 🙂

          • Marc W.

            Lucie’s photos are great too! That’s what is so messed up about this… I’d follow her on Flickr if she apologized and unblocked me.

          • Justin Case

            It hasn’t Anna. Please don’t get dragged into this. If anything, Lucie owes you for even trying to help.

          • Marc W.

            “The main issue here was that I wrongly took other photographers work and put them on my website claiming they were mine as with Kurts video. Those images have now been taken down, as has the video.”

            Going to above link, same link below, proves you did not remove all photos.

            http://alifesobright.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/when-everything-youve-ever-felt-can-be.html

          • Joseph Philbert

            We actually “harass” everyone fortunately either they apologized or removed all copyrighted work so we leave them alone as we should.
            Plus you not the only one that we are currently “harassing” at the moment 🙂

          • Bekah Palmer

            Lucie, what has caused you to be so incredibly bitter towards the world? I don’t get it. You live in one of the nicest places in the UK yet you have so much hate. There are people who can help, you know that right?

          • Just a Girl

            Oh gooood grief! It’s not that difficult! Cristina shouldn’t have yo come here to read an apology- soooo let me break it down for you… You log into Twitter compose a Tweet tagged to Cristina that pretty much says “I am sorry I used your picture without permission. I’m sorry I accused you of stealing my photos and telling my friends and the Twitter world that you stole it from me when I actually stole it from you!” And let the post sit there for a few days.. It’s THAT easy, Lucie! Come on you can do it!!

          • Norman Beer

            She can’t. She would have to admit there is a problem other than us ‘harassing’ her and admit to the world that she lied, stole, and attacked.
            Like I said, she likely doesn’t have the mental capacity to get to that level either by DD or 2* to MI.

          • Helena

            Plus it completely disregards the other half a dozen or more photographers and bloggers that she stole from. She needs to make a public blog post and apologise to all of them, but she doesn’t have the balls to do it.

          • Norman Beer

            Balls may not be the right term. Aside from the physical part, she most likely doesn’t have the capacity.

          • Marc W.

            I will laugh really hard if she copies that and uses it just like her about page.

          • Helena

            She won’t though. She won’t apologise. She still thinks she’s the victim here.

          • Just a Girl

            She has my permission!

          • Norman Beer

            BwaaaaHaaaaaHaaaaHaaaa!

          • Anna

            Lucie why should they harrass me exactly? Every single image on my site is my own apart from that one. At no point did I claim it as my own – I credited their website, their twitter and their facebook then credited myself for the second photo on the page. Check it out! http://www.annapumerphotography.com/im-shooting-brightons-holi-one-festival/

          • Ignore her Anna, sh’es trying to shift attention. Basically her argument boils down to.

            “Ignore my thievery and go after other people who you haven’t caught yet.”

          • Justin Case

            No, actually the main issue here is that you have done damage to other people and their reputations through your conscious actions.

            These are not victimless crimes: you actively took peoples’ work and more importantly got other people to help you attack their credibility to feed your own fantasies. That is beyond simple selfish behavior, it is pathological behavior.

          • What about AIPP wondering why you claimed to be a member?

          • Lindsay11

            There’s like 24 pages of other photo stealers here, sweetpea, you’re not a special snowflake. Putting a password up on your website is not the same thing as deleting.

          • KimJ

            You need to publicly apologize on your blogs and on twitter for STEALING images and plagiarism. You publicly went after Christina so you need to grow a pair , put your ego to the side and make it right.

          • Anna

            I credited their website, facebook and twitter and I’ve now credited the PR person who sent me it. There is no photographers credit as it’s a PR image. http://www.annapumerphotography.com/im-shooting-brightons-holi-one-festival/

          • peaceetc

            Anna, please don’t worry about it. You’ve more than proven had permission to use the image.

          • Marc W.

            I see the update. Now there is no ambiguity.

          • peaceetc

            Well, yes, Lucie, you did claim exactly that. You said the content was 100% yours. And who cares if you’re 23 or 93? You’re an adult who did and continues to do wrong things, and can’t seem to tell the truth from the lies. So yeah. Boom.

          • Photo Stealers

            There’s also that pesky problem that in her blurb about her she states she’s a photographer. One would assume that means these images are all hers.

          • Helena

            You’re 23, not 13. Grow up and take responsibility for your actions.

          • Big Ron

            When you post a picture and then below it, state:

            “A day spent shooting film. Bending light through trees, through conversations, through bodies of water, shadows, people, clouds and street signs.

            We’ll get that roll developed tomorrow. (And then we’ll go shoot another). I don’t know why it’s taken me this long to realise that this was what I was born to do.”

            Since the picture is the sun coming in through the shadows of a tree, and your narrative talks about you spending a day shooting film in an environment like that, AND because there is not credit (or permission presumably) to the actual photographer, this is stealing. You are implying that you shot this picture with your own words.

            Maybe you should have wrote: “Alica Bock spend the day shooting film…” Or maybe you should just come to your freakin’ senses.

          • Lindsay11

            Yep, I would assume that roll would be full of pictures that she had just posted. Just because you didn’t flat out SAY it was your picture… you sure made it sound like it was yours Lucie.

          • Joseph Philbert

            Its more about pulling apart the “Fake” life the real one …. well I dont care about that much.
            Ok I was being mean (sarcasm)

          • Anna

            Oh dear Lucie, dragging me into it now? Holi One’s PR people emailed me the picture and a press release and asked me to post it. The whole blog post was an advert for them… Thought that was pretty clear

          • Marc W.

            Thanks for providing that. I didn’t know it was given you to. You might want to mention that.

          • Anna

            Sure, I’m not trying to pass it off as my own, thought it was clear from crediting their website, twitter and facebook but I can spell it out.

          • Marc W.

            Providing those links just provides ways to get more information about the event you’re shooting. I’d recommend adding something like “photo used with permission from _____” or something. Of course people can write whatever they want on any photo they steal, but at least it doesn’t look like you’re claiming it your own photo.

          • Anna

            I’ve added another credit Marc – go to the links they all go to the Holi One Festival. It was a press image, and I was sent it by the press people and I used it to advertise their event and linked to them. The PR people didn’t give me a photographer’s name as it’s a creative commons image that they took to use for advertising, for example sending it to bloggers like myself to publish. I’m a trained journalist (quit the day job two months ago) so I’m well versed in press releases and advertorials. I also posted the email from the PR person here. So I’m gonna duck out of the limelight now – I don’t want to give Lucie the satisfaction of having passed attention onto innocent people. http://www.annapumerphotography.com/im-shooting-brightons-holi-one-festival/

          • Anna
          • Anna

            See Lucie?

          • Norman Beer

            @lucie_elizabeth:disqus – BOOM again!
            You need to start worrying about YOU, YOUR health, YOUR life, YOUR actions and NOT about everyone else!
            So far everything you claim has been proven false. WHY are you continuing? What’s the point?

          • Joseph Philbert

            Facepalm … Here lies the difference.
            Lucie trying to shift blame …

          • Helena

            Jealousy is an ugly thing.

          • Helena

            Wow, you sound really jealous of Anna’s success… Enough that you’d sell her out to divert attention from yourself. Nice.

            “SO many people do this.”

            Oh that makes it alright then. (It doesn’t). Do they also send copyright infringement complaints against the original artists, accuse others of being thieves and frauds, incite harrassment of others? No? That’s just you. Do they make roundabout, indirect apologies that aren’t actually apologies? Nope, you again.

            Stop behaving like a petulant teenager, take some responsibility and put things right, or are you actually enjoying all the attention you’re getting here?

          • Norman Beer

            Patients with MI and people living with DD can actually see the negative attention as a reward. An increase in adrenaline and other hormones can be so strong that they wipe out the ability to see the negative consequences.

          • Helena

            Yeah, that’s my guess too.

          • YEs she did …
            “(Image provided by the lovely Holi One PR people)”

            You lose …

          • Anna

            To be fair, at the time of Lucie posting this, I had only credited their website, twitter and facebook. I added the fourth credit just now. *touch of sarcasm in voice*

          • Anna

            Not sarcasm at you Eric. Just want to be clear, hate the way text takes out all tone and context!

          • Helena

            Regardless, as soon as any ambiguity was pointed out, you corrected it immediately. One image hardly compares to 400+ stolen images.

          • Marc W.

            There is also the difference that nothing was stolen, only not credited on the website.

          • Helena

            Absolutely! Not to mention ACTUAL PROOF that the photo was provided, not a heavily redacted letter from an endocrinologist from 2 years ago.

          • um, but you just said everything was 100% yours and now you are backtracking saying you didnt claim it was yours. you cannot have it both ways. No one is bullying – they are just tired of your lies and lack of respect for others’ feelings/work.

          • Joel A

            Lies, lies, lies….she tells so many of them that even she starts believing her own bullocks.

          • Justin Case

            Lucie, speaking for myself, I do have a daughter. And she reminds me all the time to lead a life I’m not ashamed of and try to set a good example. Part of that involves sticking up for what I believe in, which is what brought me here. I don’t always succeed, but having her in my life does help remind me to be a better person.

            She, like her father, is not perfect. She understands right and wrong, and she feels shame when she lets other people down. She does not get away with blaming others when she behaves badly, and she doesn’t take credit for things she hasn’t done. And she is 9 years old.

            If this site had not posted about your behavior, you would still have your fake website up and you would still be living a lie. If you hadn’t lied directly to us earlier on, likely it wouldn’t have gone much further. But then you started petulantly attacking people, and refusing to admit what was so obviously and objectively true, and people started digging deeper.

            Now we know about the video you hijacked; now we know about your past phony illnesses and multiple fake profiles. We know that you have a history of deception and even being dishonest to your real-world friends.

            YOU, Lucie, have the power to stop this. I can see it must be hard for you, and I notice that you get very upset when people call you a liar, so there must be some shame there. But that is what you are STILL doing, Lucie, and only you can make all this stop.

            Otherwise, for the benefit of anyone who might be caught up in your web of deceit, I will do my best so it won’t go away.

          • Joel A

            Justin the first two paragraphs are exactly my daughter and me, except she is 3. But you landed the exact words I have said myself. My daughter has made me want to be a better person. And has thought me more lessons about fixing myself than ever.

            So just because you are on the receiving end of this shit storm, Lucie. Don’t think we are bullies, we are fighting for whats right and true. And for the people that have been stolen from. Learn the difference.

          • Lindsay11

            Lucie when I was 23 I had 2 kids. I was a responsible young adult. I moderated a mommy forum where people like you faked their deaths, their children’s deaths, cancer, miscarriage, etcetcetc I’ve seen so many people like you who have to make up a fantasy life.

            I didn’t spend my days stealing images and words and wasting my talent.

          • doncalifornia

            Lucie, are there NO friends or family over there asking you to stop lying and making stuff up? Do they all believe your crap or have they just given up calling you on it? We’re calling you on it, that’s all. You say we are bullies but you’re not removing your lies from the internet. You need to. We’re not pulling apart the life of a 23 year old, we’re pulling apart the lies of a fraud. 23 or not, you are behaving like a complete ass. You have hurt people. Your supporters rained down upon them for pointing out you stole their images. Your supporters called the real photographers liars. You filed copyright complaints against the real artists. I don’t think you realize how destructive you are. Part of healing from self-destructive behaviors, is NOT to turn that destructive behavior on others, which you are doing. This is awful, Lucie, AWFUL. Stop it. And quit coming on here freaking out on people who are just trying to straighten our your bullshit. If we see the slightest contrition from someone who has done wrong to other people, other photographers, we jump all over it with joy and try to help you through the process of making things right. You just happen to be thwarting that possible path, coming on here and pretending you have apologized, and then coming back and calling people bullies. Honestly, if you read one sentence here and take to heart it’s this: Tell the truth, apologize, make friends, heal. Sorry but a lot of that is up to you. We’re always here to go that way with you though.

          • Joseph Philbert

            HAHAH I bet that was hard to find LOL

          • Norman Beer

            Lucie,
            Give up! You’ve already lost. Continue with these lies and it could cost you even more legally.

          • Marc W.

            If they were all yours, than why is the blog down?

            “This blog is open to invited readers only”

          • Helena

            Because she’s hiding, just in case anything else shows up? She’s not going to take responsibility, she’s behaving like a spoilt child.

      • Helena

        It’s a whole other blog. It links to Collecting Light.com

    • Joseph Philbert

      Down….

      • Norman Beer

        Nope, you’re just blocked…

  • Joseph Philbert

    For those who dont know it seems that she died and was resurrected sometime in March 2005.
    http://www.suicidememorialwall.com/searchresults.php?x=8

    • Joel A

      Are you kidding me? Lucie is this a thing for you? This is sick, there are real people there that lost their lives. Is this some kind of sick perversion that gets you off to see your name on a death list? Why would you do this? If this is something you are truly upset about, then you need to go get help now.

      • Lindsay11

        It’s totally a thing for her. She’s faked her death 3ish times.

    • Helena

      Does that mean we can cross off Jesus on the bingo card? 😛

      • Lindsay11

        hahaha omg you owe me a soda.

        • Helena

          Sorry. 🙂

      • KimJ

        OMG choked on my morning tea 🙂

        • Helena

          Sorry! 🙂

      • Just a Girl

        Thou shalt not make funnies when people are eating or drinking!

        • Helena

          Whoops! My bad!

  • Bekah Palmer

    Also if you type ”lucie elizabeth brighton” into google images it still shows all of the images that she’s ”apparently” removed from her site… how is that possible?

    • Helena

      It could be Google cache. Can you click through to the images on the web host? If you can, she hasn’t removed them.

      • peaceetc

        Some you can, some are under the password protected thing. I only clicked on a few of them. http://bit.ly/1gweVYR

    • Yon

      Probably because of the alt tags. The main page and portfolio have her own work on it and all other work has been removed.

  • Bekah Palmer
  • Stephen Cotterell

    I suspect that Lucie’s Achilles Heel will be one of her “friends” or even family members realising that enough is enough and action needs to be taken. Unlike access to her websites she will have no ability to control, influence or otherwise stop this from happening. Sadly she won’t be the first or the last to be overcome this way and I wish her well when it happens.

    • peaceetc

      I wish her well, too. If she cleans up her act and gets help, then she might have an actual future as a photographer and/or writer. That’s one the things which really bothers me — she seems to have talent. I don’t get why she does what she does.

    • Helena

      I really hope someone reaches out to her family sooner rather than later before she hurts anyone else or herself.

    • BullShite

      The problem with Munchausen by Internet, (and the related Catfishing) is that sometimes the family becomes so tired of the reoccurring problem, that it just becomes a “thing” that exists that no one deals with, and no one talks about.
      In the worst they will become enablers of the behavior out of shortsighted “love”.

      • Justin Case

        that’s a very interesting take. It makes quite a bit of sense, also regarding why some of her strongest supporters here are in silent denial.
        I’ve been avoiding this, but Lucie herself has now brought it up… where the hell are the parents in all this? I haven’t really dug that deep, but they seem to be completely missing.

        • Lindsay11

          Her mum is in numerous photos all over the blog. People who have MBI often have family members who are sick of it, like BullShite said. But I’m not sure her mom has any idea this is going on. I was thinking last night, if one of us came across a way to get in contact with her mom, would it be a good idea?

          Justin, you were the one who was interested in Emily Dirr, weren’t you? You might be interested in Janna St James. Interestingly enough, her victim is/was taking her to court and suing her for fraud. And cyber laws are being strengthened as we speak. http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/fake-online-love-affair-legal-battle/story?id=13478270

          • Justin Case

            thanks, I’ll look into that. Again, if this is really the issue here, then it will just keep continuing until someone in the real world can get Lucie some help. It seems to matter little to Lucie that she has involved and hurt others.

    • KimJ

      She really needs professional help.

  • Norman Beer

    The problem with @lucie_elizabeth:disqus is she has NO idea anymore what is the truth and what is a lie. Either she has a mental illness or a developmental disability that does not let her see right from wrong, truth from lies. We are essentially beating a dead horse because she will most likely continue until she either gets her self thrown in jail or a mental hospital. I doubt a lawsuit would even do anything.

    Perhaps some friends and family will see this and get her committed and find her help!

  • Anyone have any screen grabs of her use of the AIPP logo? I forgot to do a screen grab of it … they are asking.

    • Norman Beer

      Someone said they did.
      @josephphilbert:disqus
      @disqus_ikAXyfA3Od:disqus
      @peaceetc:disqus

    • captain-confuzzled

      here you go

    • Norman Beer

      See, told ya so!
      Granted it was the one person I forgot to tag… 🙂

    • Thanks everyone … image sent to AIPP.

  • Fernando García

    Oh, shit, some things posted are very serious.

    Sincerely, as I said yesterday, I hope of heart that she fully recover from her problems, especially of food ones, for much damage that she made to anyone into past, even to my girlfriend.

    But she must not be confused, the adversities of life aren’t an excuse or a reason to disturb other people.

    And, to Lucie:
    I repeat, whatever you do, WHATEVER, Cristina and me, and I’m SURE that all the people of this blog, hope that you fully recover and we wish you every happiness, but please, you must change your behavior, stop this and you must tell all your friends and all involved people the truth (specialy the truth about the Cristina’s sister, that is a serious thing, and that she isn’t a stealer, because there are so many tweets sayind that and your friends don’t rectified, they must too). Do that isn’t a bad thing, is to show bravery and courage, and I hope you start again with your hobby from zero, but with your own job.
    You must learn that taking nice pictures isn’t important (I can’t take them, and that isn’t a problem), but taking pictures can be important for ourselves, and I’m sure that, if you propouse it, you will take nice pictures, but with experience, formation and regular work, like all the people.

    • peaceetc

      I think you are being more than reasonable about this whole thing. Lucie should be thanking you for your compassion.

      • Fernando García

        Well, we all make mistakes, this is a big one especially because she has not admitted it during months, hurting some people during that time but, well, it can be forgive, she haven’t killed anyone and I think that, deep down, she isn’t a bad person, just one that did a big mistake

    • Justin Case

      Wow, Fernando, those are very generous words. And again, if there is one bright point in all this, I feel lucky to have seen Cristina’s beautiful pictures. There is much love there, and it really shows. Best of luck, and I hope this all ends soon.

      • doncalifornia

        Justin I agree, I happy to have discovered an artist with beautiful beautiful work.

      • Melinda Potter

        I so agree! I’ve shared and shown Christina’s work with a few people, and have visited her photographs quite regularly since this post was started. Very compelling. I plan on following her as soon as I get a chance to log into my flickr. Beautiful! Does Cristina have a 500px account by chance?

  • Marc W.

    Is there a bingo square for “But other people are doing it”?

    http://stopstealingphotos.com/collecting-light-brighton-england-uk/#comment-1381587580

    • Justin Case

      only since you asked so nicely:
      (for those of you who are new, this is just an illustration to show you how frequently used the same old tired excuses are. enjoy)

      Lucie’s card is the fullest one yet.

      • KimJ

        Please can I share this on FB?

        • Justin Case

          I make no claims to this one, it is my adaptation of one posted long ago.

          • KimJ

            Anybody know who did this originally?

      • Lindsay11

        How about “Don’t you guys have anything better to do?” or “I’m just stealing things because I’m sick and it helps my recovery” or “Leave me alone!” My favorite is “The photos are down f***ing moron!” when they are ridiculously, obviously NOT down.

        • Justin Case

          keep ’em coming. someone pointed out that we should have randomized cards so we could all play whenever a new posting is made.

          “I’m sick…” is kind of covered under ‘death/illness’ but I think ‘part of my recovery process’ deserves it’s own square. “Leave me alone” could also be extended to include “leave my family/friends/followers out of it”

          “Photos are down” is definitely going on the card as it gets used a lot (as if that somehow makes everything better) but I think I should just replace the center square with ‘(f*** you, you f*** moron)’

          Or, best comment ever from way back in February: ‘blah, blah, blah fuckers’

          • Lindsay11

            hahaha omg I remember that one! Corey basically put that in the intro and I laughed sooooo hard. Yes I would like to see that on a square.

          • Lindsay11

            “I was just using your video to play with software and I totally didn’t mean to remove your copyright and put my own in!”

  • Chris Jones

    Interesting reads on this thread…. lol

    • peaceetc

      Hey, we agree on something. See, things can change. 😉

    • peaceetc

      By the way, Chris, I hope you are doing better. I really do.

      • Chris Jones

        Thank you so much. Things are better. 🙂

        • peaceetc

          Good, I’m glad.

    • Just a Girl

      Hey Chris have any advice for Lucie?

      • Chris Jones

        I think the biggest mistake all these people make is they just don’t admit they screw up in the beginning. Wether it is on purpose or not… if you didn’t take the photo…. don’t say its yours regardless of how you got it, where you got it, who gave it to you etc. I learned that the hard way.

        • Lindsay11

          That’s really good advice Chris but I don’t think it applies to Lucie. I don’t think even she knows what is true and what is a lie anymore.

          I wasn’t here during your “time” but I read all 3000 posts lol I’m glad to hear you are doing well.

          • Just a Girl

            Girrrrrrl there ain’t enough hours in the day to do that! Yikes!!!!

          • Lindsay11

            LOL Well it did take several days!

          • Chris Jones

            Ha yes those were dark days for sure. I am impressed that you read all the comments. Someone should make a movie about the crazy life I once was in.

          • Lindsay11

            More and more I want to write a book. Or maybe a Buzzfeed article. 10 Strangest Stories About Photo Theft. Whaddya think? 🙂

      • BullShite

        He doesn’t have Munchausen by Internet though. 😉

        • peaceetc

          But he can speak to the experience of being outed by Photo Stealers. He’s the most notorious person profiled here. I don’t know what’s going on in his life right now, but like I said in another post, I really hope he’s doing better.

  • Brittney Borowski

    My pictures are some that were stolen. I messaged her a few times and she never replied. I’m over it. It’s really sad. I really hope that she finds the beauty and talent within herself.

    • captain-confuzzled

      so sorry that you had to go through that. I’m sure others will pop in and encourage you to take further action. I do too, but they will have better specific ideas than I do.

    • peaceetc

      If the photos aren’t down, you might consider filing take down requests under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) with her web host. I don’t have the info on her host, but I’m sure someone else does.

      There is some helpful information on Photo Attorney’s web site about the various aspect of it: http://www.photoattorney.com/an-easy-way-to-find-the-isp-for-dmca-takedown-notices/

      • Justin Case

        that DMCA thing actually got me thinking: I believe it’s actually a criminal act to file a fraudulent DMCA notice. I wonder if that is how Lucie got Kurt’s video removed?

        • Lindsay11

          mmm Interesting! How do we find that out?

        • It is but it isn’t …

          Apparently, the wording is a bit muddy but here is a site from a lawyer who thinks it is …

          http://targetlaw.com/consequences-of-filing-a-false-dmca-takedown-request

          The criminal sanction of perjry are a bit harder to pin down … Warner Brothers opinion on this a while back: Warner adds that the DMCA only requires the penalty of perjury statement to confirm that the sender represents the copyright holder, not that the allegedly infringing links point to their copyrighted material, they say.

        • My guess is she downloaded my video via the many clip grabbers they have today. She then cut out my logo and placed her’s in there there and uploaded to youtube. Then she filed a complaint against my account for copyright infringement at which point mine was removed.

          I went through the youtube process and filed a counter complaint which is the initial start of legal action. She pretty much freaked out at that point and removed the video and took it off vimeo as well. I screen recorded everything before she took them down. so I have proof.

          • peaceetc

            Good luck with the rest of it. At the very least, you deserve to have a clear record with YouTube and to have your video restored. It still amazes me she did that to you in the first place. I can’t fathom what was going on in her head to make her think that was okay.

      • Norman Beer

        @LightShapersMagazine:disqus – Kurt, do you know how it was taken down?

    • Helena

      I hope you didn’t mind me commenting on your photo. In all the half arsed apologies to Kurt Von and Cristina Hoch, not once did she mention you personally even though she’d left your exif info in the photo she stole and it irritated me as your pictures are beautiful.

      • Brittney Borowski

        Haha yeah. She hasn’t said a word to me.

        • Helena

          I can’t say I’m shocked. Just disappointed. If she had made a genuine public apology then great but I’ve yet to see that either.

    • You know you could sue her to hell and back right?

      • Brittney Borowski

        I wouldn’t sue for her because she obviously had other deeper issues. I would never want to add stress to someone else’s life when they are dealing with much more. If she would have continued, sure I would have taken action. But she has applogized. My heart aches for her above all and we all need some grace and mercy. I know I do.

        • Wes Jones

          It is commendable that you don’t want to inflict any pain on another, but, be assured that she has no such sympathy for anyone else.

        • While I admire your capacity for forgiveness, the problem with this is that people like this play the sympathy card to get out of trouble … there is no consequence and so there is no impetus to change.

          On top of that, there is REAL damage to you in terms of un-controlled propagation of your images over the internet … you don;t know where she’s used them or how …

          Actions need to have consequences.

        • Lindsay11

          I won’t push you to take any further action, I’ll just say that a lot of people like you have come in contact and forgiven her and that is so very lovely of you. But it’s also the reason she’s faked her death 2 or 3 times (who can keep track) and keeps stealing photos. No one has held her accountable so she rebrands and starts again, stealing and lying.

          • Justin Case

            I couldn’t agree more. After looking a little deeper into this, I am convinced that what we have seen here is not close to what she has done on other sites. And this has been going on since at least 2007, so I doubt a few apologies here is going to change much.
            Lucie needs to be held accountable for her actions, that is the only way this will stop.

          • Helena

            2005 she appears on a suicide memorial site, so close to 10 years of this behaviour now. In 2-3 years she’ll do something else, and the pattern will begin again. She’s not interested in stopping this attention seeking behaviour and no one is making her.

          • Justin Case

            I wasn’t sure about when that one was posted, but whenever it started, it looks like it’s become a permanent part of her personality now.

    • Lindsay11

      I would also encourage you to take some action. Being on a public blog labeled as a fraud, a liar and a thief doesn’t seem to phase our Lucie. A DMCA, legal action, something has to be done.

      • Brittney Borowski

        I think that the personal and internal guilt is plenty. I’ve had so many pictures stolen and used without permission over the years it will be nearly impossible to stop it unless I just don’t post any of my work on the internet anymore. I was at a point where I wound watermark and people would crop it out. Maybe I take this too light hearted but I believe we are all corrupt and broken.

        • peaceetc

          If we let people get away with stuff like this, they will just do it again. It’s obviously your choice what you do, and I won’t judge. I just hate to see people get away with terrible behavior, especially when I think some real world consequences would actually help Lucie. She’s not going to stop doing what she’s been doing until she has to.

        • Lindsay11

          BTW I just double checked and she stole your entire gallery didn’t she? It is kind of you to be so forgiving! Your photos are gorgeous Brittney and I’m sorry this happened to you.

        • Helena

          BIGGER WATERMARKS! Like a big © in the middle of the models face. 😉

  • Lindsay11

    Earlier Lucie Elizabeth said, “So why not go and harass Anna too and every other photographer/blogger that does this out there? Im sure there are plenty more of them than you have filed already on this site. The main issue here was that I wrongly took other photographers work and put them on my website claiming they were mine as with Kurts video. Those images have now been taken down, as has the video. I have apologised to Cristina wether or not she has read these comments. I have also apologised to Kurt via email. The other things you are trying to harass me for have either been dealt with, are non of your business or are not copyright issues, so go waste your time on someone else.”

    1. Like I said, there are 25ish pages of thieves here, you’re not a special snowflake.
    2. You admit you wrongly took other people’s work and claimed they were your own? That is amazing Lucie, and no joke, I am proud of you for admitting that. Good for you! The problem is, I highly doubt you’ve taken anything down. Yesterday you said you had and I posted several links to your website with PROOF (your third favorite word after dear and sweetpea) that you hadn’t. Instead of admitting it you called me a f***cking moron and threw up a password on your site. You need to take that stuff down. You need to take those plagiarized words down too.
    3. You need to send a note to Cristina and Brittany and I guess there’s a Lara or Lana (?), that you’ve stolen from and apologize. Oh and Kurt. He didn’t seem thrilled and I believe he was looking into suing you. Could be wrong but if I were you I’d be nervous about that. In fact, you need to send a note to everyone because I’m sure there are more.
    4. You need to publicly apologize. Yes, you do. You can’t recover unless you admit what you’ve done wrong and make it right. I know you are worried about your recovery so this is a good step. You need to spread all over twitter how you lied about Cristina and got your friends to do the same. Make this right Lucie.
    5. No one is harassing or bullying. We are trying to make you see that what you are doing is wrong and harming others. It’s obvious you are a selfish little child who needs to grow up and take some responsibility for your actions. When you do this you can contribute to the world and share your talent. And you do have talent Lucie! If you were a terrible photographer this wouldn’t be nearly as sad.
    6. Write your anorexia story in your own words. I can not believe that it is healing for you to steal other people’s words. How does that help you recover? Her illness is not the same as yours so her words shouldn’t be the same.
    7. On a personal note, don’t worry about my kids. My older kids are in boy scouts, honor students and in a band. My daughter is 6, likes wearing rainboots year round, catching bugs and singing Frozen and the top of her lungs. She also likes taking photographs and even at 6, she knows that using someone else’s art as her own is wrong. They don’t need me at the moment because it’s 430am and they’re asleep, so you’re getting my attention sweetpea.

    • Bekah Palmer

      So well written, you are amazing x

      • Lindsay11

        Well, I wouldn’t go that far but thank you. 🙂 Thank you for what you’ve done!

    • Helena

      To add to 2 Lucie. Although it’s great that you finally admitted that you took other people’s work and displayed it as your own, I’m still not convinced that you actually feel you did anything wrong. Your comment that “So many people do it” suggests that you think it’s okay, and you have failed so far to give direct and adequate (i.e. not ” I’m sorry you’re upset” or “Sorry, I was just playing with this bit of software”), let alone public, apologies to any of the injured parties. Read up on copyright law. Learn what you did wrong. Try and work out why you felt the need to do it in the first place.

      4. You also need to apologise to your friends for lying to them, and inciting them to abuse an innocent couple. I imagine if any of them read this, finding out the truth was very embarrassing for them.

      Adding in 8. Your pattern of behaviour is consistent. Blame hackers. I don’t want to talk about it. Police are involved. Leave me alone. Rebrand.

      You are the boy who cried wolf. Stop lying to yourself and others. Own up and take responsibility for your actions. Break this unhealthy cycle. You will never recover fully unless you can admit there is a problem with your behaviour in the first place. Lying and denial will just make you more likely to continue in your suffering, and you can’t continue using that suffering as an excuse to trample all over the feelings of others. Talk to someone, be it a counsellor, doctor or friend about what you did. Try and see it from the side of the people you hurt. Get it off your chest so it stops weighing you down. Get help!

      • Lindsay11

        Right, right! I would be mortified if I had been sticking up for a friend and that went all over twitter and I found out my friend had flat out stole and lied.

        If any of her friends are still reading this, we don’t blame you for defending your friend. Well, unless you read this and then keep defending her and attacking. If that’s the case we should have a dialog and we’ll try to help you understand why this was wrong.

        • Helena

          Exactly.

  • Lindsay11

    Have we seen this one yet? She wants to work with kids. I’m sorry but I wouldn’t want her near my children. She is so not a role model.

    http://ivo.org/lucieelizabeth/volunteer-profile

    • Lindsay11

      Skills
      confidence creativity dedicated driven honesty

      The last one will make you cry or laugh. Or both.

    • Helena

      Yes I saw that a few days ago. :/

      • Lindsay11

        I missed that, it is very very hard to keep up with her! She taunts people for spending time looking into her lies, but I can’t imagine the time I’ve spent looking is even 1/6th of the time she’s spent building her fantasy world.

        • Justin Case

          not to mention the entire idea of creating all this – in a public place, the internet – and then complaining that people go to the trouble to look into it.

          The problem isn’t that we’re viewing her fantasy world, the problem for Lucie is that we see through it.

        • Helena

          The difference is she’s one person, and we are many. It took minutes to find all sorts of information about her life that she created over the course of years. It’s out there publicly. You can’t then complain when people find that information and use it to come to conclusions that you don’t like.

          • Lindsay11

            Excellent point!

        • BullShite

          That’s what I find so FUNNY about this….. I mean it’s a LOT of work and effort to create a complete fantasy, keep your stories straight… USE PHOTOS OF YOURSELF…. it has GOT to hurt when the house falls down. I mean, the pity vacuum has to be a serious pay off for the effort that goes into bullshitting people.

          I have to agree though…. google search and image takes all of the actual “work” out of looking into anyone’s life.

          • Lindsay11

            I have no idea how people do it!

    • KimJ

      Is she ever going to stop. She said that she took a year off uni because she was sick and now she says that she took a year off because she moved.

      • Lindsay11

        Well, I mean, I wouldn’t put “I was so sick I couldn’t do anything for a year” on a volunteer for small disabled children app either.

        • KimJ

          With all her lies I wonder if she did work with kids

          • Lindsay11

            I am wondering the same thing.

      • Helena

        I think she thinks that this will just stop. She doesn’t realise how persistent people are. We will keep checking. We will report any future copyright infringement. She’s not getting off easy this time.

        • Lindsay11

          Speaking of, do you mind if I send you something on facebook? I’m not really sure if it’s her or not and I thought maybe you’d like to take a look?

          • Helena

            Go for it!

          • Lindsay11

            Sent! 🙂

    • Alchemy

      Has someone with a list of her transgressions informed IVO (and perhaps also Brighton social services?).
      She’s shown no qualms about throwing other people under a bus to generate attention for herself so I’d be concerned about her being allowed access to children who may be less cynical about her lies.

      • Lindsay11

        You know, I’m not sure where we are at with Lucie exactly. I know she apologized to some people. Besides here, I don’t believe she ever apologized publicly. I personally haven’t checked her pages a lot often (Sorry Lucie!) but I know others have and she seems to be posting only her things. I guess that’s next on my to-do list.

  • Hi guys,

    Just posting to say that I receive apologies from Lucie and a friend of her via email. I forgive them because firstly, her friend was another victim and secondly, I forgive Lucie because, although she commited a crime, had an uggly behavior with me and my family and attacked me, I can see she’s not psychologically healthy, and well, everyone can make mistakes. I do hope she get better with her health.

    Thanks again to PhotoStealers for all your help, and to you, people, who supported me strongly

    • Helena

      Glad to hear it. 🙂

      • Wes Jones

        I hate to be the voice of dissent here, but take her “apologies” with a grain of salt. I was once in a relationship with someone exactly like this. Sociopaths enjoy manipulating the feelings of others. They have no true empathy for anyone else.

        • Bekah Palmer

          I still personally feel as though this story should go to the local press but I’m not in contact with anyone form the Argus anymore 🙁

          • Helena

            I’m sure an email to them would do the trick.

          • Just a Girl

            The Daily Mail or Sun would jump on something this crazy!

          • Helena

            This is true.

          • Lindsay11

            Bekah you’re a local girl (I think?), you could email every paper and blogger in Brighton.

          • Bekah Palmer

            Yeah I am, kinda wish I had the time! I will make some time tomorrow/Thursday

          • Lindsay11

            Let us know what happens.

          • Photo Stealers

            It looks like she’s recently moved from Brighton

          • Bekah Palmer

            Newhaven is part of Brighton really.. its not far away

        • Helena

          Wes, I am glad Cristina got an apology, but I am very sceptical about whether any more will happen now. I suspect it’s a superficial apology to try and get everyone here off her back, but I’d love to know if any of the other photographers or bloggers have received a similar apology.

    • Lindsay11

      That is great Cristina. I am happy you got your apology!

      Lucie, I am really really proud of you. Thank you for doing this, really. This is another great step for you!

      • Helena

        I am surprised. It must have been a very difficult first step if it took nearly 1000 comments to result in this apology. Now to wait and see where Lucie goes from here…

    • Just a Girl

      Good! And good on you Lucie! Doesn’t it feel much better to do what’s right then do what’s wrong!?

    • Melinda Potter

      Yay! Sorry it took so much time and effort to get her to see, but how wonderful 🙂
      Thank you so much for letting us all know

    • captain-confuzzled

      Happy to hear it and yay Lucie!

    • Joseph Philbert

      Very cool hopefully she can start the process of moving on..

      • Just a Girl

        Oh she has a few more apologies still left to make before moving on. Cooooome on Lucie! You can do it!

        • Helena

          Yes Britney is still waiting. I imagine Cristina and Kurt are the only ones who have heard anything so far.

          • Lindsay11

            Britney and … was there a Lana or a Lara? I don’t remember any more!

          • Helena

            Lana Isabella amongst others. The list above is a pretty good place to start. In fact, the easiest thing to do would be to make a public apology and then point all the people above in the direction of the post, instead of emailing each one individually.

    • KimJ

      That is great, was the friend perhaps “Bekki” ?

      • Helena

        I very much doubt it.

  • Just a Girl

    Well damn! Lucie not popping in her for over a day feels like being stood up on a blind date! Disappointing, but really who gives a damn! LOL

    • Helena

      I think she’s done as much as she’s going to as far as apologising to the photographers goes.

    • Lindsay11

      She hid her stuff and apologized to one person so in her mind she’s all settled I guess?

      • Helena

        This is my conclusion too. It’s like stealing a load of people’s cars, returning them, then only apologising to one of the owners like the others don’t matter.

        • Lindsay11

          Then she gets upset when the police knock on her door to “harass” her. “Leave me alone, I apologized!”

          • Justin Case

            You two have researched at least as much as I have on this. I am convinced that nothing short of a major media story and criminal charges will make Lucie Elizabeth Blue Owen change her ways. Whatever it is she needs, she isn’t getting it, and hurting others along the way doesn’t seem to factor in to her moral equations.

            It’s truly sad. I wish her no more pain. But just ignoring this and letting it slide one more time isn’t going to help anyone.

            I’m sorry for calling you out on this Lucie, but maybe, just maybe someone who knows you now or will meet you later will read this and actually be able to help you.

          • Lindsay11

            Well if @bekahpalmer:disqus follows up on contacting local media there may be a story.

          • Bekah Palmer

            I have contacted the Argus today, lets see what they come back with!

  • Brittney Borowski

    I got my apology!

    • Helena

      🙂

    • Joseph Philbert

      YES …. PROGRESS!

    • peaceetc

      I’m glad. It’s a step in the right direction that she seems to be accepting responsibility and is directly acknowledging at least part of those from whom she stole. I hope she now understands why it shouldn’t have happened in the first place, and that it shouldn’t happen again in the future.

      Yes, I know I could choose to be cynical here and list other reasons why she might be doing this, but I want to give her the benefit of the doubt. I think she knows we are a persistent group, and will catch her if she does this again. She also needs more help than we here can provide, and I very much hope she gets it. Nobody wants to see her broken, we want to see her better.

      And, hey, Lucie? These are good first steps, but this doesn’t end with a few apologies. You have a long road in front of you, and please don’t use your pain as something to hide behind, to defend your wrong behavior. No more faked deaths (and sure as hell no real one), no more telling people to leave you alone when you’re the one who’s wrong. GET HELP. Stop living your life for what’s online (because that’s apparently never been real) and deal with reality. Do your own writing and photography. Be you, the real you. I can promise you will be happier in the long run.

      • Joseph Philbert

        No no no … we are a persistent “CULT” get it right Geezzz (sarcasm)

    • Lindsay11

      I’m so happy you got an apology Brittney. Good on you Lucie. Keep it up, every step you take is going to make you feel so much better.

    • Just a Girl

      Way to go Lucie!!! Keep the groove going!

  • Just a Girl

    Lucie, add Aurelien Buttin to those you still need to apologize to! You can find him on twitter under that name! And Lana still needs one top!

    • Helena
    • Melinda Potter

      Really in her case… She should just lay it all out publicly and apologize to everyone involved. There’s too many she stole from. By putting t out there that she stole other people’s words and images to promote herself, she would also be cementing that she will no longer be fraudulent and people following/reading her blog and viewing her work would be able to trust that everything she posts truly came from her and her alone. I know she’s probably trying to avoid going public with her dishonesty, but I think a well written blog post explaining, and apologizing to fellow artists and writers/bloggers would really help seal the deal and confirm that she will no longer do this sort of thing. This would also help her to adhere to her word if she’s struggling with the idea of giving up her fantasy lives

      • Helena

        I agree totally. I was actually thinking about how bad this and all the past information would look if someone googled Lucie (like we all did). At least if there was a public apology, it would show Lucie was taking responsibility, and allowing herself to be held accountable, for her actions.

      • Just a Girl

        Yeah, I agree but unless she has some big self revelation it’s probably not going to happen.

  • Chris Jones

    I feel like this…… I will say that having been through the other side of this blog I can offer some incite to the lady here. Apologies go a long way however they don’t fix the problem,). You fix the problem from within. I realized I had an internal issue of greed and fame and I didn’t care what I did to get it. This is the best thing that can happen to you when you have faults. When they are exposed, other things within you that you didn’t know were there is exposed as well. You will loose any respect from people, and all relationships you had with peers are, and will be done… however… you can’t really have a solid life till you create a solid foundation.

    • peaceetc

      Chris, it sounds like you’ve gained some insight into yourself, which is great. That’s what we’ve wanted — for you (and the others outed on here) to learn from their mistakes.

      • Chris Jones

        Thank you. And yes. I realized what I was becoming through all of what had happened. I am very happy looking back that I learned this way even though the process is tough. The sad thing is no one is forgiving… so you have to let that go earlier.

        • peaceetc

          Trust takes time to build. And when it’s broken, it may never be rebuilt. The best anyone can do is to live the best they know how, and to try to not make the same mistakes they’ve made in the past. Because we all make mistakes. It’s whether we learn from them that is what is important. If you continue down that road, eventually people will see it.

        • Big Ron

          Chris, I wasn’t on this “cult” when you were featured. But seeing your responses here, I went back and read the posts on you. While you seem to be acting as a good mentor here, I don’t see that your situation was completely resolved in terms of your being that apologetic. Maybe I missed something, but even a month ago you responded to someone and said people like them make this site a joke.
          I’m curious why it took you so long to deliver that camera to the person who won it? Maybe it’s just a matter that you’re still taking your licks over there, and we should put it all behind us — if you have changed. It’s very possible that you have, but reading your stuff, I just don’t see it. I do see a different side of you here.

    • Joel A

      I just liked a post by Chris Jones! Never thought that would happen, but good for you Chris.

  • Lindsay11

    Hi Lucie. How is/was your weekend? Was it hot over there across the pond? It was 100 degrees here! (wait you probably don’t do degrees. Trust me 100 is hot!) I hope you are taking care of yourself and are very healthy.

    I hope you’ve taken the time to apologize to the rest of the photographers you stole from. If you have, good for you! If not, let’s do that and get it off of our minds so we can move on.

    Have you rewritten your anorexic story into your own words? I am very interested in reading it still. I bet you have some great ideas. I even bet you have some photos in mind that you want to take to present with that story. You have some really lovely photography and I’d like to see more of YOUR photography.

    PS It would be nice if you would reopen your websites so you show everyone you have removed stolen photos and put up more of your own.

    • Lucie Elizabeth

      Thanks Lindsay.

      Ive apologised to all of the photographers involved – mostly via Flickr mail. As for segments of my bio taken from a-recovered-life.tumblr.com, I have emailed the lady that owns this site to see if its possible to use extracts of her words (if not, Ill remove them from my site). Ive taken extracts (and only extracts) of her words to properly articulate and emphasise the last few years of my life with anorexia, but that story is still 100% my own from my heart.

      I have also reopened my journeysthroughmeadows.com site. Ive attached two screenshots of my other site. Its under maintenence and will be password protected until my portfolio is complete again (with 100% of my work) but all work that is not my own is down.

      Im truly sorry for the everything thats happened over the last few weeks, and I truly hope we can move on.

      • Just a Girl

        Lucie- You really do have talent! Use it for great things! Good luck!

      • Helena

        Good to hear from you Lucie. I am glad to see you are taking positive steps and I hope your future endeavours are infinitely more healing for you. I look forward to seeing your work.

      • Lindsay11

        Thank you Lucie. I appreciate you asking her for permission to use her words, and I understand that they apply to you too, but I still wish you would write it in your own words. At any rate, I’m so proud of you for all the steps you’ve taken to rectify this situation. I haven’t had the time to look at your site, but for now I choose to believe you have only your work up.
        You can do this.
        PS “choose to believe” probably sounds harsh. I just can’t figure out how to word it so… I don’t mean that harshly! 🙂

      • Lindsay11

        Sadly I am unable to get onto your website Lucie, seems like the bandwidth is exceeded. I was, however, very sad to read this comment by bob cooley • 13 hours ago

        “Highly doubtful that you created it, seeing as one of the other images you ‘created’ on that blog is a widely distributed stock photo:http://tinyurl.com/Lucie-stole And another is by a Flickr user,https://www.flickr.com/photos/…”

        So it is true that there are photos you let your friend think you took and are still out there under your name. This isn’t cool Lucie, don’t let your friend get into trouble because you are too embarrassed to ask her to remove that page. I’m sure if you ask nicely she will take the page down. Heck, give her some of your photos and help her design a nice new page.
        You can do this Lucie, I know you can!

      • KimJ

        Well done Lucie, glad to see that you are doing the right thing. Being a vegan I enjoyed reading about your vegan meals.

  • Melinda Potter

    I keep seeing updates on the right, but cannot find the conversations in the comments here. Could someone post and give me an update to what is going on? More stolen work found? or what?

    • Helena

      On http://theperfectpearpair.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/inspired-by-lucie-elizabeth.html?m=1 there’s a post inspired by Lucie from February, in which the first 5 photos are not hers. There was debate over whether the hand blowing glitter is hers, but I think it is as it’s still on Flickr and I doubt Lucie would populate Flickr with any work that isn’t hers now.

      • Melinda Potter

        Ahhh I see. Thanks. Are the photos all done by the same artist? She could just change the credit if so.

        • Helena

          I have no idea. I didn’t check that well. Just a quick right click search.

    • Also, right about the new comment box (above your photo) you can change the sorting order to “Sort by Newest” – that will always bring up the thread with the new comments added. hopefully this is helpful!

      • Melinda Potter

        Bob, it’s funny you say this. I have PS set to show newest, but the newest post I see (besides the one I made) is written two days ago. I scroll and scroll and nothing new pops up. I’ve been having a similar type problem with Facebook and other sites recently as well. I think it may be time to empty my caches or something. Refreshing doesn’t seem to work. Thank you for convincing me that these things are more than just coincidences

        • Marc W.

          I think it’s sorted by the newest root comment. If there is a child comment, it will be under it’s parent.

        • Marc is correct – but cleaning the ole Cache out every once in a while is a good practice too – you’ll be surprised how much faster your browser can run 🙂

      • Melinda Potter

        I even thought you all were set to default and were posting under a “best” post or something and that’s why I couldn’t see. I’ve been switching back and forth to try to read what’s been said lol

    • Wes Jones

      Same problem here. I have it set to Sort by Newest yet sometimes I can’t find the recent posts. Oh well.

  • A Nony Mouse

    I know Lucie from way back, when she faked her own death twice on the same website. Second time she did it, it went with a whole story of sexual abuse and anorexia. I don’t know if she’s ever going to stop.

    • captain-confuzzled

      I looked at her site a few days ago and it looked clean with very nice photos that she appears to have taken herself. Some of her little recipes look pretty tasty! Is there something specific you have seen that looks fraudulent?